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Ecuadoreans march in support of President Correa and Assange
Hundreds of Ecuadoreans marched on Monday in support of the government's decision to grant asylum to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in a saga that could help President Rafael Correa if he seeks re-election. Read full article
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Aug 20th, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Hundreds of Ecuadorian's in favor rape and sexual assault on women”
@1 like!!
Aug 20th, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did anyone give Ecuador a single thought before all this started. Will anyone give them a thought when its all finished.
Aug 20th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let them have their moment on the world stage, it won't last long.
None of this is anything to do with Assange, its an oppurtunity to have a dig at the UK, they couldn't give a stuff about him.
They will start to worry when the Swedes say that there will be no IKEA for Quito unless they hand over Assange.
Aug 20th, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, it worked for Belarus........
A load of Ecuador residents go for a walk in Ecuador. Do they think the UK gives a toss? Just go and get him and send him to Sweden where a court of law will determine his guilt or innocence.
Aug 20th, 2012 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do criminals run to South America? Perhaps this is why South America is a crime ridden dump?
They always seem to wheel out these miserable-looking people on marches at a moment's notice if we even fart in their general direction. Don't they realise there are bananas to pick?
Aug 20th, 2012 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1
Aug 21st, 2012 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ever heard the phrase “innocent until proven guilty”?
@7 Yes, thats why innocent people have no problem fronting a court to prove their innocence.....
Aug 21st, 2012 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0What are the charges again?
Aug 21st, 2012 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz,
Aug 21st, 2012 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The European Arrest Warrant does not require charges to have been made. It requires an intention to prosecute.
According to the Swedes it's merely a hearing... I'm sure Assange wouldn't offer them to hear him in the UK if the case was about a prosecution in Sweden :)
Aug 21st, 2012 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah viva La Ass-Mange, Our Hero, Our Martyr, Our Rapist. Yeah well done Ecuador you gained a Sex offender aswell as enemies! dont think he will be visiting the motherland any time soon.
Aug 21st, 2012 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz.
Aug 21st, 2012 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0See:
http://www.judiciary.gov.uk/Resources/JCO/Documents/Judgments/jud-aut-sweden-v-assange-judgment.pdf
pages 16 - 20 of pdf in particular para 10 on page 17
@Britgayninja why do people always have to start insulting others? The same could b said about Brits doing dirty work in “Great” Brittain. And besides, there is no actual proof that he raped or assaulted anyone. Do you have any proof to say that the US definitely does not want him? Ignore the article about Obama saying so. No one really knows if what Assange is saying is true or not. We just have to wait n see. Until then, just relax my fellow tea-sipping idiots.
Aug 21st, 2012 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0If calling someone gay is the extent of your “logic”, thanks for proving my point about you being backward ;)
Aug 21st, 2012 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@13 I went through the entire reading and all I can say is, “Bullshit.” All over I see, “there is no evidence; the evidence is unclear..blah blah blah” Where is the actual evidence!!??? To me, it all just seems fabricated..
Aug 21st, 2012 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Logic,
Aug 21st, 2012 - 03:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe the Swedes have a very flimsy case, maybe they have a very strong case. We simply don't know. The European Arrest Warrant doesn't require evidence of guilt. That is presented at trial, with prior disclosure to the defence, to give them time to respond to it.
I have a mental picture of the organisers arranging the order of the march. Mr Correa standing there with a megaphone, “Okay, rapists to the left, paedophiles to the right, assorted sexual predators and deviants in the centre, thank you very much. we will start very shortly, we are just waiting for the flashers to arrrive.”
Aug 21st, 2012 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0@16 - Logic
Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't know how due process is done where you come from, but the police cannot release their evidence to the general public. To do so could prejudice the case against the accused.
You say that in post 14 do we have any proof that the US isn't out to get Assange.
Well to use the arguments that you and many others have out forwards:
The burden of proof is on the accusers. Mr Assange has accused the US and Sweden of plotting against him. Therefore it is up to Mr Assange to provide the proof that they are.
Which he obviously can't otherwise he would have done so already.
But let's for a moment assume that Assange is correct, that Sweden and the US are plotting against him. He blabs about it to the world, hides in the embassy of one if the worse countries on human rights in the world.
But eventually he ends up extradited to Sweden. Do you honestly believe that the US would extradite him then, when by not extraditing him will discredit him before the whole world?
Quite frankly, Mr Assange is a fool. He has set himself up for a fall of monumental proportions, and has made himself look like a coward, and also guilty.
He has tried to discredit the alleged victims of the crime he is wanted for questioning about (a common tactic amongst rapists, by the way), he has come up with the most unlikely conspiracy in the history of conspiracies (and that includes the one that states that George W Bush was behind the 9/11 attacks), in short he isn't acting like an innocent man. He is acting like a man who believes he's above the laws of mere mortals such as ourselves.
However, regarding the story. It's nice to see the Ecuadorians supporting rapists and other sexual crimes like this. What next? Are they going to march in support of paediphiles?
Ecuador may find itself becoming a tourist destination for those undesirables who like raping women. After all, rape isn't a crime there, President Correa told everyone in the world that.
Hmm, wonder if there are any women in the march?
Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0That odious prat George Galloway has waded into the debate by making some pretty disgusting remarks. “It was not rape it was bad etiquette”, And asserting that once you have slept with a man he has the right to have sex with you whenever he likes without consent. Not in the eyes of the law, Mr. Galloway.
Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have to understand it is about 1950 with regards to women's rights in the Southern Cone and it regresses in time as you move up the continent through Central America. Michelle Bachelet certainly started to move Chile towards the 21st century but there is little evidence elsewhere.
Today's News Biscuit (“the news before it happens”) is very topical (and funny) - www.newsbiscuit.com
Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 - Steveu
Aug 21st, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's funny. Try this one.
http://newsthump.com/2012/08/15/julian-assange-still-locked-in-building-to-avoid-being-locked-in-building/
@23 LOL
Aug 21st, 2012 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many a true word spoken in jest - the man is a self-seeking prat!
If you wanted to face questioning/ trial, Sweden would be the country of choice for most people. They are so “fair-minded”, it can be painful.
I am so sick of petty tin pot demagogues right now. Those people in Ecuador and around the world who support this farce and Assange, need to wake up. The Ecuadorian government already renowned for abusing human rights not least that of free speach, claim to be protecting Assange's rights but come on what about the rights of the women he is accused of raping, what about their right to see justice done? What about Sweden's right to prosecute criminal cases against crimes committed on their soil? No Ecuador is using Assange as a straw man to rabble rouse and irritate the USA, which incidentaly has not issued an extradition request to Sweden or Britain. Moreover Assange is using his celebrity to duck out of a court case why? Not because he claims he didn't commit the sex acts but because he maintains it was not a crime. Well I would say that is for a court to decide, isnt that the point of a law? Or maybe ill just go rob some Ecuadorians and then go hide in the US embassy and claim im frightened they will extradite me to Argentina - makes about as much sense to me.
Aug 21st, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 07... By doing a Roman Polanski and fleeing to a foreign country before he was carted of for questioning I think we can safely say the rat is guilty to some degree...The man is a class A coward of the highest order.
Aug 21st, 2012 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Ever heard the phrase “misogynist”? Or “criminal”? Or “coward”. Did you know that “criminal coward misogynist” = Assange?
Aug 21st, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14 Let's figure this. Let's say argieland wants to prosecute a war criminal who's in another country. Although such a “person” should be way down the list. There being 41,281,631 on hand that they should prosecute first. Here's the options: (1) War criminal transported to argieland for trial; (2) Argieland sends all appropriate personnel to conduct trial in another country. Judges, lawyers, clerks, bailiffs, custody staff, admin staff, all sent to other country; (3) Argieland doesn't bother as it will be 425 years before it has space in its court schedule; (4) Argieland doesn't bother as it is “war criminal” heaven. Murderers, nazis, genocides, rapists, thugs, liars, cheats, thieves, slags, queers - argieland is home from home!
@16 What did you read? Where did you start from? Assange: “I am innocent. It's all a conspiracy.” Or did you start from “Assange ran. First from Sweden. Then from justice. Then from British courts. Then to the ”embassy“ of a ”country“ that doesn't believe in impartial justice, civil rights, honesty, human rights, press freedom.” Incidentally, if you're talking about the flat (apartment), it's not an “embassy”, it's a “chancery”. The “embassy” is the people. Those that are accredited.
There are two agendas here - one of Assange and the other of Correa. It just so happened they went face to face via cyberspace in an interview for Russian television and each discovered the other had a problem. As they both feel demeaned by the US they came up with this scheme of scratching each other's back. Two smug bastards who think they have beaten the system - well they haven't. Patience, world, Assange will end up in Sweden.
Aug 21st, 2012 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We want to talk, we are open to talk,
Aug 21st, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the meantime we will continue to insult you, and threaten you,
Abuse you , and demonstrate against you, and burn your flag,
Why wont you speak to us ??????????
Do you know what keeps nagging my little grey cells about this fiasco? Did the Ecuadorians approach Assange with the offer to provide him asylum. It would be an interesting developement if that turned out to be the case. Would that be a breach of the Vienna Convention I wonder? after all it would be a blatant case of interfering in the host nations domestic laws. It could be a case of them inciting Assange to breach his bail, to commit an offence against the host nations law. Just a thought, one that I can not help wondering about though.
Aug 21st, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the silliest fact is,
Aug 21st, 2012 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he thinks he is safe, from the Americans,
he should remeber some interesting things,
1, ecuador, is not pakistan,
2, he is not asama,
3, he wont be that far away
4, they have all the time in the world
5, he does not,
golden [7] osama was assasinated in pakistan , he is not slagging of the yanks , now,,is he lol.
@31
Aug 21st, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you know what was going through Osama's head when the SEAL killed him?
A 5.56mm full metal Jacket.
ha ha great.
Aug 21st, 2012 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 023 LEPrecon
Aug 21st, 2012 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ecuador’s foreign minister, Ricardo Patiño, revealed that it was unlikely that Mr Assange would be able to leave Britain and fly to Ecuador even if he was granted asylum.
“For Mr Assange to leave England, he would need a safe pass from the British government,” he said.
“With this in mind, his options pretty much consist of being imprisoned in a building or being imprisoned in a building.”
I think the forgoing shows an uncharacteristic show of logic by Ricardo Patiño.
LOL :o)
yet he might send rowing boats up the thames, for a rescue bid,
Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0stranger things have happened, he might sent sussyusa.lol.
You kids are idiots. Ecuadorians are obviously not marching in favor of rapists or pedophiles. They're marching because they believe Brittain needs to respect embassy policies and regulations. They are discontent with Brittain's plan in stripping the embassy if it does not comply. That's just harassment. I bet Brittain wouldn't be saying things like that if it was an American or European embassy. (All things aside with the US threatening Assange fiasco)
Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0logic,
Aug 21st, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what do they call you, clever or what,
respect is earned,
the fact is,
britain has done nothing.
ecuador on the other hand has thown out nothing but insults and threats, and burning british flags.
one suggest you look before you leap.
Briton
Aug 21st, 2012 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They aren't really looking for your respect, they are basically telling you stay the fook iit of my territory, without the use of arms. Ecuador.
Old empire :)
Ecuador, the embassy is not your territory. UK
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0funny how some brits suddenly care about the fake rape case.
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 04:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0You clowns must enjoy the police state..(more internet censorship there).
@39
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ecuadorian territory in London = A ground floor flat in the posh neighbourhood of Knightsbridge London, rented from the landlord.
You have a PC, go and read up on the vienna Convention, it might enlighten you, but I doubt it.
Why not re-direct the UK's aid sent to Ecuador, to the FIG as a non-repayable grant to help with the port development? Obviously Ecuador don't want the UK's money.
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0In my opinion the only crime worse than rape is child abuse and too many rapists get off with it. Only some sick in the head would help someone avoid prosecution for it.
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Stop me if I'm wrong but didn't UK say there was a legal precident for going in to the embassy not that they would be going in.
38 Guzz (#)
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Briton
They aren't really looking for your respect, they are basically telling you stay the fook iit of my territory, without the use of arms. Ecuador.
First of, it’s not their territory,
It’s merely and agreement that countries observe.
It’s called respecting others,
And we ain going into that,
The fact is, we was only telling them the law,
No one is going to enter, not now not in the future,
So he has no logic to go on and on and on, like a washing machine,
We have in fact done nothing,
They on the other hand .
keep slipping on that banana .
And why did you feel the need to let Ecuador know your domestic laws when it's the international law that is in effect? Tourist guide info?
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we told them as this may have have caused a problem,[and it did]
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a rather silly comment from the F.O.
but advice was all it was, nothing more ,,nothing less, and to be fair,
we told them that, the country told them that , the papers told them that, but would he listen .
Advice for what, Briton? As to how to react when UK breaches international law? What is the advice, Briton?
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0come come, you know very well it was only advice,
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they were told, that it was possible to enter if they chose to, but did not intend to do so,
whatever the exact wording was,
it is now very clear to all, that the british have no intention of entering this embassy.
I tell you what I know. The Brits tried to bully Ecuador and came up with a law they've created to satisfy their own nationalists. Now, as Ecuador showed you, this law of yours is useful just and only for that very same purpose. That's what I know. :)
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a great march - hope and expect Correa stands again and wins. Maybe he could give Assange citizenship and make him his running mate =)
Aug 22nd, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Show me flag burning..
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 050 Pretend Brit but a real muppet.
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well he is his mate and he's certainly running.
#50 Please do !!!!!!
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0#47
What international law has Britain breached.?
52
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0this is for serious discussions,
Not generic infected slags,
Piss off,
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Im off for a weeks R&R
In south America,
yiiippppeeeeeeeeeee,
And staying well away from the hoars hotel.
See you next weeky
49 Guzz
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We did not come up with a UK law to deal with a bunch of wankers defying an International Arrest Warrant by holding the prat Assange in their miniature embassy.
The law was enacted in response to the murder of Yvonne Fletcher, a 25 YO woman Police Officer. She was shot by a Libyan who fired a Sterling Sub-machine gun at the crowd she was standing in outside the Libyan Embassy.
That was on April 17th 1984 during a protest by the Libyan National Salvation Front (LNSF), a bunch of students. The Libyans claimed the embassy had been savagely stormed by the protesters (have Ecuador been taking lessons or is it endemic with LatAm 'diplomats') and opened fire in self-defence.
The law, Diplomatic and Consular Premises Act 1987, as amended, allows the Secretary of State, under clearly defined rules, to remove the consular privileges and, if necessary, title to the land itself and vest it in the Crown.
Only a legal 'note' (in England and Wales) or a 'warrant' in Scotland is needed to make it so.
There is one thing I have noticed about Assange though: he did not deny the charges in his little window, come balcony, stunt.
And this law is so precious to you, you wanted the Ecuadorians to know about its existance? Why would they care when international law counts anyway?
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's like you and me playing tennis and we have an argument about the rules, then you come up with some local handball rule in order to solve the issue...
@ 55 Generic Gay Briton
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0JAAAAAAAAAAAAAJAAAAAAAAAAA
off to southamerica?......
La Isolda Pavota trying to make Generic Gay Briton to look like a VIP? ...... how much for the cornish pasty in Paraguay..........just a guarani....
JAAAAAAAAAAAAJAAAAAAAAAAA!
Hey....be sure to cover your arse..... southamerican men really will jump on you and brake your arse!
Hey, isolda, concha seca y sin tetas, do us a favor, NEVER COME BACK!
57 Guzz
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are so wrong headed on this.
Do you really believe that firing a sub-machine gun into a peaceful crowd of demonstrators from the INSIDE of an embassy cannot be handled by the host country?
If it were in LatAm the Army would have dealt with it, without the niceity of a Law. And I would agree with that.
We are stupid in the UK. We treat cnuts like Libya under Gaddafi and Ecuador under that 'paragon' of truth Correa as normal people. They are not, nor will they ever be.
Assange should be in Sweden by now, end of.
#59 Theres a big difference between killing people from inside an embassy, in which case I'm tempted to agree with you, and the Assange vcase though, isn't there?
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 059
Aug 23rd, 2012 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0agreed
@BK Rape just a misdemenour in your book is it?
Aug 24th, 2012 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0#62 No but even if (and its a big if) the allegations are true, he's not threatening to do it again, to British citizens, from within the embassy is he?!
Aug 24th, 2012 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Blind_Scottie_Kirchnerist
Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, you are TEMPTED to agree with me about some Libyan nutcase killing innocent protesters! However his time is coming, very soon.
You cannot get over your disappointment at not being a LatAm can you?
Whatever BK if they weren't true, why fight tooth and nail not to be deported for questioning and when that failed cower like the yellow bellied rapist he is in the Ecuadorian embassy with no absolutely no chance of him getting to the airport, these are the actions of a desperate criminal wishing to escape justice, the allegations are probably in all likely hood true, Assange has a colourful history of being a sexual devient, and seeing women as little more than a tool of sexual gratification and to enhance his own flawed ego...made only amusing by the hordes of slavish followers creaming their knickers at their flawed (and quite clearly cowardly) messiahs every deranged utterance.....
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