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Ecuador’s President Rafael Correa sounds the bugle

Friday, August 24th 2012 - 05:44 UTC
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By Sean Burges (*) Is Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa really saying that we cannot trust the judicial systems in Britain and Sweden? By granting Julian Assange asylum, he has implicitly stated the British judicial process is flawed and that Sweden is a slavish servant of the US government. Read full article

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  • reality check

    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Poor Mr Correa, UK still not talking to him. Not going at all to plan methinks! UK seems to have taken their time but have finally got it right, by not dignifying such abuse of diplomatic behaviour with any response. Quite right, patience and perseverence, that's the answer.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Mr Correa, a piece of advice.

    When you are up to your neck in excrement it is advisible to stop digging.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Why does this article need to look for ulterior motives for an act of humanitarian anti-imperialist solidarity? Still its more balanced than a lot of the stuff on here...

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    The President comparing his country judicial system to Sweden and Britain- is he really as canny and bright as the writer of the above article suggests...
    No.
    Let the world fucus on Ecuador and human rights; that'll shut him up (or not)

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @3

    Maybe it's because articles on here aren't necessarily aimed at those who just fell off a Christmas tree, or those whose sole aim in life is to score points off the Brits.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @3 BK
    Be a realist and not a fool. The article and right minded posters know Correa is not an angel or a leading light in the world of freedom of speech. Sexist Correa abuses his sovereign powers to the detriment of all Ecuador just so he can improve his ratings at home and among his latam friends.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Comments to this article are revealing once again that people only see this event from a so-called UK/USA perspective of neoliberal politics.
    There is another view,that of promoting the views of the unrepresented.I mean,Burges is a purveyor of economic matters,and that politics must facilitate the progress of economic development.It certainly always draws an emotional abberation from people who think they have a broad and logical education.But there education is oriented towards their role within a economic system on which they have no say.But they probably give to charity in order to cleanse their guilty feelings of selfishness.Of course some will not give as they believe they a self made and others are just lazy,or some other moral weakness.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rufus

    Hmm, lets see, when was the last time civil liberties were suspended in Sweden and the UK? When was the last time a nationwide state of emergency was declared and the military was given not only police powers but the role of policing? Hell, I'd guess that would be further back than world war one.

    That's about what happened in Ecuador as recently as 2010.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @6 It can't help it. It thinks CFK is attractive! To another hippo, maybe.
    @7 was that piece of semantic gibberish supposed to mean something? You need to comprehend that your comments may be read by argies. Whose ability to assimilate, contemplate, cognate and express themselves rarely rises above the level of “Yah, boo.”

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Rufus
    Sweden, against all conventions, allowed USA to transport kidnapped people to be tortured in Guantanamo as late as 2006.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    Good article.
    I think the Brits will put this on the back burner for a few months and let Assange sweat it. If this article is correct, Correa will lose interest.

    At the end of the day Assange is going to Sweden, it is just a matter of time.

    When Correa does sell him out I am sure he will invent some nonsense to cover it up.

    Guzz, why would the US need Swedish permission to transport prisoners from Afganistan to Cuba?

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    As a Brit it's absolutely fantastic to have the cnut Correa lecture me on 'freedom'.

    Definition of fantastic: “fantastic also fantastical adj. Quaint or strange in form, conception, or appearance. Unrestrainedly fanciful; extravagant: fantastic hopes.” Yes, that's about the long and short of it.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    “British Goliaths”

    Ha ha Britain is not Goliath is David and shrinking even more
    wouuuuuu ha ha.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    13... Been on the cooking sherry dunny? You post is complete nonsense as usual.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I wonder why this man hates the USA so much that he was educated there.......must be our inferior schools.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @13 Trod on you, didn't we? Fink.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Eddieposted

    south america currently seems have a lot of nationalistic nuts for leaders seeking their 5 minutes of fame

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Wonder how the quiet diplomacy is going. “All quiet on the Western Front” I suppose.

    Curtosy of Wiki

    Although it does not match the German exactly, Wheen's title has justly become part of the English language and is retained here with gratitude.

    The phrase “all quiet on the western front” has become a colloquial expression meaning stagnation, or lack of visible change, in any context.

    Rather apt description, wouldn't you say?

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    18
    We would indeed, they're also killing their own schoolchildren...
    But why did you feel you had to impulsively have a go at USA?

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @19
    ???????????????????

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Conkerer!What do you say in #9?

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @21 I think it translates to “You're a stupid, ignorant, latin, dago turd.”

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Seems the UK has sent them a letter. The FO is not saying what is in it. No doubt these people will. Why bother, fuckem! let him rot where he is

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Thought it said that

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    There must be a very, very long line of Met Police Officers volunteering for overtime outside the the Ecuadorian Emabssy, all that double bubble. Mark my words as an ex cop with 35 years service, the moment he he walks out of that Embassy, he will be nicked for breach of bail. Don't give a ferk who he is not our problem! Breached his bail no diference from anyone else, simple.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @cLOHO

    Britain is a second tier country and becoming more and more irrelevant every day.

    Its funny to see someone calling Britain “Goliath” and trying to put GB in the same league as US.

    At least you have proofs that we don’t know to back that GB is a “Goliath” I just will keep laughing...

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    25#
    You can tell you have police in your background.By the hatred in your heart.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • juliano

    I do not understand. some South American countries seek after all fights and put the name of Brazil in the midst of confusion. we support legitimate causes as the malvinas, but because assange? that this more for someone looking for their 15 minutes of fame than supporting a real cause.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    Duny.. What is your fixation with biblical stories about men fighting..just plain weird. nobody would argue uk or gb has the standing of the US. The pure financial and military power of the US is immense. One nuke carrier could destroy most countries airforces, including prob uk, the have twelve of these carriers and another 10 smaller harrier assault carriers. but the Uk is the foremost financial capital of the world with a healthy GDP. Whereas Argentina is a broken country with no standing in the world other than moaning and bullying 3000 souls on the Falklands. let's look forward to all the oil the falklanders will benifits form and our two new super carriers that whether you like it or not along with our nuclear vanguard subs give us a punch second only to US. Get over your envy of all thing British and use your humiliation in defeat as a positive, build a better world. and see the shrink about your David and Goliath fixation.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @juliano

    The support is not for Assange otherwise for Ecuador a its rights to provide asylum to anyone who it would like.

    As Britain and US have done many times for their own interests.

    @cLOHO

    I guess you are not scaring anyone with your military power down here specially because UK is a little cat in a world of lions.

    How long do you think will take to SA to equip a proper Army to invade UK?

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    All declarations made by Correa are directed at his own constituents. He is power crazy and all this nonsense is about the 2013 presidential election in Ecuador.

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Eddieposted

    @30
    You seem rather deluded about the power of south american pussies lol

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @26 Oh yeah? Then why did you scream like little girls when our Typhoons took over from our Tornados? Two combat aircraft that you couldn't hope to match. Not to mention the pilots. And there's only four of them! And why did you scream again when HMS Dauntless set sail? It's just one ship! And why did you scream yet again when His Royal Highness Prince William arrived for his search and rescue training? One RAF trainee using one unarmed helicopter painted bright yellow.

    How long do we think it will take SA to equip a proper Army to invade UK? About 200 years. That's for you lot of wannabes to match our current state of development. Let us remind you that your hero, Hitler, couldn't do it. He only had to cross the English Channel. But he couldn't. His U-boats, battlecruisers and so forth litter the seabed of the Channel and the Atlantic. Just as your Belgrano thingy is on a seabed a few thousand miles further south. But think on, it isn't just equipment that does the job. It's guts. Which we have and you don't. 11,313 POWs, remember? And how many prisoners did you get to take? 115. You thought you could take and hold a couple of islands. You couldn't. Instead, you got beaten sh*tless. Despite being full of it. Remember that you will have to face at least 55 million people. And we won't be happy. How many are you going to send? Two million? Five? Ten? And how many do you think you'll have left by the time you get here? If you get here.

    And on your first point, Ecuador is not entitled to provide asylum to anyone it would like. Certainly not to a criminal fugitive. Although it might provide AN asylum. You should go look up what Ecuador might have the “privilege” of doing. Ecuador is interfering in Britain's domestic judicial affairs. It is doing so directly. I would not be surprised if the Ecuadorians get themselves expelled!

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Poor old UK,conkerer.Like the uk didn't interfere with other countries,like a perverter of people's rights.Interfering in the affairs of Syria.Financing the downfall of Yugoslavia.The most underhanded nation of all.They deserve no respect for the rule of law,do they?
    There is no justification for breaking the law I'm sure you agree.

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I agree with you whole heartedly that SA armies are ill equipped to fight a war in the modern era, of against any country using up to date technology. I see it difficult for a SA nation to equip a troop a boy scouts at an annual jamboree. Forget sending there armies to invade, they could not defending an impending air campaign. I think the reality is that even middle eastern countries are better equipped militarily speaking. One American battle group, say the Abraham Lincoln, I would see most SA countries neutered in a day of two. To say they would be softened for ground forces is an understatement.

    However I disagree with the second part. Every country has the right to choose whom they grant asylum to and often do. Right or wrong and more often than not, the granting country often rationalizes the means to justify the the end, in the case of ecuador, they are fitting a square peg into a round hole. So arguing that is a moot point to argue. However, just as a nation has the sovereign right to grant asylum, any country has to sovereign right not to accept it, in this case the UK. ecuador apparently thought they were in the cat bird seat and indirectly flipping the bird to the USA and making brownie points with his fellow despots in SA(can anyone from SA tell me why when every “elected” official becomes president they change the consititution........rheotorical question of course).
    Equador now has to live with their actions and their new house guest. The UK in my simple American mind has always been a leader in diplomacy and will best serve this issue allowing it to fester like an infected wound. Ultimately it will come to a head. With ecuador making this a political statement, it would have been more effective if it happened in SA but they made the statement in the UK as a guest of the UK and Great Britain is not bound by any law, internationally of domestic to grant assange diplomatic status as he is not a diplomat. UK will wait this out.

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Correa, in his weekly televised broadcast to the Ecuadorian nation yesterday, clearly gave his opinion that although a woman says “NO” this would not necessarily be a valid reason for a suspected rapist to be indicted in Ecuador. He was, of course, referring to the alleged sexual “exploits” of Julian Assange in Sweden.

    So it seems that it is not advisable for our daughters to spend their “gap” year in Ecuador - just in case!

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    I was reading 35# and was thinking'this is rubbish' and,nevertheless,continued to finish the whole of the post.Then,I re-read it and looked at the two parts,on the subject of defence,and then on the subject of asylum.I thought about both parts,thinking two subjects are being addressed in one post,and thats fair enough. Then I reflected and came back to my original verdict.What a load of rubbish that was.

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    lol Yuleno

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Yulemo - financing the downfall of Yugoslavia? What history books do you read? The same ones that recount the fairy story about the Falklands sovereignty pertaining to Argentina?

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Right yulena......show me a SA nation that can defend an invasion and you will eventually wake up. The rg army could not even defend a British task force let along there entire military.
    But perhaps you are correct about my post on asylum, and you agree back to #33......ecuador does not have the right to give anyone asylum. Which is it, they have or do not have the that right? You agree with conqueror and disagree with me, or disagree with conqueror and agree with me.

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    34 Yuleno

    “The most underhanded nation of all” What? worse than Russia? Worse than Iraq? or Iran? or even the USA?

    “like a perverter of people's rights” What? worse than China? North Korea? Iran? or Argentina or Ecuador?

    People in glass houses..................... lol

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Lol at these posts, never has a country had such a large chip on its shoulder as the jealous, desperate, childish and ridiculous country that is Argentina.

    Good old Danny calls the UK a 2nd tier country, what does that make Argentina? 150th tier? LOL

    It's funny that you people are so sad and its no surprising your country has been in the gutter, is in the gutter and will remain in the gutter for as long as you people exist.

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yulena is re-grouping. He is waiting for a new script

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Poppy you must read more carefully.I did not agree with conkerer.I merely said I'm sure he would agree with a statement that his country had repudiated persistently.Your question to me (which is it?) is exactly what I was pointing out to him.
    As for the other posts,it's no use,on the one hand,to admit that the UK's colonial past,is now something which had its errors,has been cleansed of its dirty deeds.Neither is it honest to pretend that it role,along with its good friend,the USA , in reshaping post war Europe and the fight against communism,was not in it's own interests and not a humanitarian and selfless chore for which these countries should be eternally grateful.Likewise,the colonial empiricism,is from where the current upheavals in the middle east originate.
    Absolution is not restitution or rectification however much one might want it to be and humility most certainly is not present.
    There are consequences to be endured for the past.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Conqueror

    “And on your first point, Ecuador is not entitled to provide asylum to anyone it would like”

    If the big SA countries say so there is nothing you can do about it without being harmed.

    Try to use force to enter to Ecuador embassy and you will see the repercussion for little Britain.

    @ Captain Poppy

    Really? And what are these precious and advanced technologies that your troops is using in Afghanistan?

    How much advanced do you really think US is when is facing real war scenarios?

    A bunch of peasants with rocks and old AK 47 defeating your army and coalition.

    And in Vietnam?

    So relative more advanced weapons don’t give you a guaranty of success in a war.
    By the way have you ever noted that US lost any single war in one way or another when fighting along?

    @ Gordo1

    His (Correa) statement is absolutely right “rape” involves physical violence by definition. Physical brutal force applied to the victim or the use of some kind of death threats using arms, etc that can coerce the victim.

    Then you have “sexual abuse” and “sexual assault”. “Sexual assault” involves all types of sexual “crimes” but not always is “rape”.

    If a woman or man says “no” and there is no evidence of physical force or death treats used during the intercourse it is not “rape” and would be virtual impossible to convict the perpetrator without a witness.

    It is similar to the difference of steal and rob. Rob involves the use of force or coercion to steal your belongings.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    @ Dany Berger. Of course, you are wrong! If there is penetration when a woman has clearly said no or has been drugged or is asleep, even if there has been prior mutually agreed sexual intercourse, then that is RAPE!

    I hereby warn all women to steer clear of you and individuals like you. You must be one of those “macho men” like Correa or Patiño. I don't know, nor do I care, which country you live in but your perception of rape is not a civilised perception.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    45.... You forgot the huge Argentine Army dug in defensively in the Falklands beaten by a much smaller UK force.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JimHandley

    For: 35 Captain Poppy.

    SUPREME U.S. MILITARY MIGHT.

    Recent history doesn’t support this erroneous affirmation, which ignores the outcome of that country’s bellicose escapades in places such as: Afghanistan, Laos, Somalia, Vietnam and that of its two wars against Iraq, the latter at least of which, was of questionable legality and rationalized by deliberately ‘fabricated’ false UK/US intelligence reports. Without exception, these ill-advised military adventures have ended in their protagonist’s defeat or/and the massacre of many innocent civilians and a miserable legacy for those victims who survived horrendous onslaughts such as ‘Agent Green’ and ‘Shock and Awe’.

    Admittedly, most S. American govt’s ain’t got much to write ‘ome about DEMOCRACY but neither have we.

    These days, it’s all about economic power –principally in the form of plundering natural resources in a vain attempt to satiate human greed. So for Gawd’s sake, ought not we ALL stop trying to intellectualize the bleedin’ obvious?!!!

    Cheers!

    Jim, in Madrid.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Danielle......you are intelligent .........you know the politics of Vietnam, and I am sure you know the SOP for the ROE in SW Asia. Drones fly over SA everyday and not a thing you can do mostly because you do not know. I would love to be the one to paint Ms. botox and her anal lips. But she will be her own demise.
    #47 It was one task force that beat the entire argentine military on their region no less. The UK and US forces do best when they are fighting more than a philosophy.
    When on when will you SAs stop whinning about colonialism and such. If you all keep that up, start being your uniforms from N.Korea, unless anal lips already has that in that works.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    The post you respond to poppy are less and less interesting every time.I could have predicted that jim's post would be ignored.I think jim has highlighted some excellent points.Especially the continuous creation of material demand by consumers irrespective of the true cost of their production.Why don't you comment on post 48# and stop bragging about yanqui military might which has almost nothing to do with you except for the occasional vote on a limited menu.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Jim I am sure you are intelligent enough to think beyond the surface of those military deployments and make a conclusion of might based on the raw outcomes. Those deployments will continue to happen, hopefully with less frequency. But based on your logic, Russia (USSR formerly) not a top 5 military because of Afghanistan. I must assume that you yourself added the word “Supreme”. As I myself never stated that the USA military rules supreme( however, tell me what force in SA can realistic fight a full out war against the US militray?) I believe what I said was:
    “One American battle group, say the Abraham Lincoln, I would see most SA countries neutered in a day of two. To say they would be softened for ground forces is an understatement.”
    However returning to your term “military might”, there is a method to determine and evaluate the might of a nation, which is why I would never say “supreme” but definitely top 5. It would be arrogant to claim supreme until another actively declared war against a nation that has a full military.
    When evaluating the military might of any nation, the following is taken into account:

    Defense budgets-
    • Total size and % of GNP
    • Distribution by Service

    Combat RDT&E-
    • Number and distribution by type and service
    • Quality relative to peers

    Man Power-
    • Absolute size of pool
    • Educational and technical proficiency by rank

    Defense industrial base-
    • Total number of facilities to produce weapons
    • Sufficiency relative to service need

    Military infrastructure-
    • Total number of facilities
    • Distribution by category and service need

    Inventory and support-
    • Size and structure of inventory
    • Holdings of high leverage systems
    • Sufficiency of logistics

    Perhaps you need to re-assess the US military might with the generally accepted criteria used worldwide, Jim from Spain. And I am not a “we” with you, I am America and you are Spanish. Yulana, comment with facts please.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    It's simple US military power is No1 nobody comes close. that saying it doesn't mean they win every conflict, every great power has reverses and losses against smaller foes, it's the way of the world. uk in its empire days had plenty of whippings by smaller forces. its pure envy from Argtards on this forum.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Your are getting childish poppy.
    Will HBO organise the fight to determine the true supreme champion.
    Grow up and calm down with your aggressiveness
    Ps jimmy Gonzales is yanqui or Latino?

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yulana you really jumped the gun with #50. As you were posting:
    “.I could have predicted that jim's post would be ignored.”
    I was typing #51. Is everything you do premature? And Jim did make one valid point, that economic power is everything . With argentinas gdp at 445 billion US, we have 8 states (yes out of 50) that has GDP's larger than argentina's. New York, Texas and California have over a trillion and almost two trillion for California. So if you wish to lecture on economic power as a Jim, make sure you brings facts to a country that has a 15 trillion GDP.
    Bring on your evil empire, cry's of colonialism, imperalism, debt ridden whatever. Your hatred brings out the arrogance in the most humble of people.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    JimHandley (Jim, in Madrid) if I remember correctly is a Brit who now lives in Spain.

    He is an octagerian who served in the UK forces and in the UN peacekeepers for which he was awarded medals.

    I have no idea if he considers himself British or a LatAm sympathizer or simply neutral.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Quite honestly I thought he sounded neutral, but one never know whos who. You have the likes of Sussie that has multiple ID's but easy to spot, as others are. Then you have the likes of some like yulana who reads one thing and makes an exaggerated conclusion thats is a stretch from what he reads. If you talk military and he losses the point based on fact, you are an agressor. IUf you talk economies and he losses bases on the facts of economics, you are part of the evil empire that takes advantage and called interferers........in fact from what surmise based on his posts(yulana), he actually supports Syria's mass killing of it's own people. I just because he is use to it, from SA and all. If you tell him 1 plus 1 is 2 he will sure as shit sticks tell you it's 3. He is never wrong........he has blind perfection lol

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    The excellent poppy wrote
    Perhaps you need to re-assess the US military might with the generally accepted criteria used worldwide, Jim from Spain. And I am not a “we” with you, I am America and you are Spanish. Yulana, comment with facts
    please.
    Then he wrote
    Quite honestly I thought he sounded neutral, but one never know whos who.
    Referring to jim
    Then he said I jumped the gun in 50# that at the time he was writing 51# after writing 49# which followed jim's 48#
    I mean can we really trust this man whose has a forked tongue.Really poppy just because you didn't address a post you shouldn't invent things.Get a drone out of your gardner's tool shed and put a stop to things you dont like.
    Furthermore,didn't all this economic and military might apply when,despite gross anti-humanitarian abuses,the Yanquis failed to defeat Vietnam.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JimHandley

    For: 55 ChrisR.

    Re: “He is an octagerian who served in the UK forces and in the UN peacekeepers for which he was awarded medals”

    Not QUITE right, Mate, I served in the Korean WAR and unfortunately, certainly NOT as a ‘PEACEKEEPER’

    Re: “I have no idea if he considers himself British or a LatAm sympathizer or simply neutral”

    Actually, Ol’ Boy, I’m a wild Welsh, Celtic tribesman who’s lived in so many countries that he’s in favour of common humanity –except its devious politicians, who’re rushing all the rest of us off to hell in handcart!

    Cheers,

    Jim.

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Well I was close to make a big post but I guess that I agree with Jim.

    Better to use tech to enhance human life than to use in destruction.

    After all anyone can make nukes on these days...

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You should limit your typing to rational thoughts.....period. My only correct is that at the end of post #51.....Yulana, comment with facts please, should have been a separate paragraph.
    I was correct that I am not we as he stated he is Welsh. I did not attack him. I must say you thoughts are contracting like your economy.
    What address did I not address.......because I will add more as I love providing fodder for you. You refute with insults and I provide you with facts accepted worldwide.
    Tell me.......how's chubby chavos oil refinery doing........meeting his year end increase in production?
    Give me your address so I can mail you a flashlight, only it will not make it past the corrupt customs officers.
    If you read all the posts here, of have the troll wing translate, please do not keep relying on google, you will answer your last question.
    You are proof that being right frustrates the opposition. As someone once saiad:
    “it's easier to forgive someone that is wrong than it is for being right”

    There are days you test my patience, but then I remember that I am patient with the stupid, just not the ones proud of it.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Wireless

    I don't know how they have gotten away with this shit.

    The argument for asylum is that Sweden 'might' allow the US to extradite the rapist from Sweden. So Ecuador grants it, to prevent the UK allowing Sweden to extradite the rapist for rape.

    What a load of bollocks, I think it much more likely that the UK would allow the US to extradite the rapist direct, would it not? Surely the UK is more likely to allow extradition than Sweden?

    How long did the rapist live in the UK, without any US application for extradition? There are no charges filed by the US for leaks from the rapist are there?

    So it's all manufactured bollocks to avoid legitimate rape allegations in a Swedish Court, and all you suckers swallowed it to allow a rapist to avoid prosecution.

    Distraction from the fcuking obvious, the rapist is using the media and all the fools out there in Latin America, the same fools who think we still have a British Empire, and that Argentine Policy on the Falkland Islands is the truth, when it is patently obvious that it is a pack of lies.

    The World is full of easily led fools it seems.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 02:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Wireless

    And your was?

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 04:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    59 - Apart from Argentina jajajaja how are your nuclear submarines you planned to retrofit??

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Your quite obviously wrong wireless.Its normal for a section of the pro-USA/pro/uk posters to weave this way and that, to have the upper ground.
    Stay with things as they present themselves,otherwise you are really saying you've got it wrong.

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    “How long did the rapist live in the UK, without any US application for extradition? There are no charges filed by the US for leaks from the rapist are there?”
    Wireless why are you casuing trouble here with logic and sense? Do you comprehend 64? lol I know the words but the context?

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cLOHO

    rights for rapists...rights for nazis....man you SA lot love your despicable criminals. Your most famous rescue was Dr Joseph Megale ...whadda guy...

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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