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Paraguayan Senate defies Mercosur: votes against Venezuela’s incorporation

Friday, August 24th 2012 - 06:18 UTC
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The Paraguayan Senate, at the heart of serious regional diplomatic dispute, voted by a solid majority against the incorporation of Venezuela as full member of Mercosur. Thirty one Senators rejected the Venezuelan Protocol of Adhesion, three supported it and eleven left the floor before the vote was taken. Read full article

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  • Harry Stamper

    Respect, at least some people in South America has the common sense to see through the illegal inclusion of Chavez's thieftum.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    That's right Paraguay, stand up against the imperialism of Venezula, Argentina and Brazil.

    Respect.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    These Senators are so reactionary and stupid they'll do this even with Franco warning them it means shooting themselves in the foot. If these idiots keep control of Paraguay at the next election they'll have to decide whether to rejoin Merosur, as planned, in April, with Venezuela in it, or leave; Venezuela is there now, offers far more than Paraguay ever did, and isn't going away. But I think these oligarchs will not be re-elected - at least not freely and fairly

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    the great south american divided unity, the latam back stabbing togetherness, the unconditional dog eat dog neighbourly love...........Im feeling that :)

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Harry Stamper

    #3 “freely and fairly” care to expand ?

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    The Guaranies have gone into siege mentality mode. Thats dangerous. There is a usually empty phrase about fighting to the last man. Well those guys mean it and have done so twice

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    My love and respect for the guaranis, Redpoll, and I can assure you, the Paraguayan oligarchy does not have a drip of guarani blood...

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #5 He can't What the troll is saying is that if free elections move away from the left if is a rigged election. Conversely, if the people freely elect socialism, it was a fair election. You See Harry, when SA countries follow their consitution to the letter of the law, it's called undemocratic, and punish will follow from socialist regimes in the region.
    One has to ask themself “why has SA been filled with such turmoil and unstability since it's discovery?” Perhaps there are reasons democracy is hard. Copuntries in SA are as follows:
    Person not laws
    Governments traditionally have been all about the leader, not laws. In fact, many times a newly elected president will undertake rewriting the constitution so that it supports his party, political beliefs and so on.
    Multinational companies support dictators
    Democracy is messy, so multinational companies, with the support of Democratic and Republican presidents alike over the last 200 years, have supported dictators who guaranteed stability.
    Socialists come to power
    Socialist leaders of various stripes have risen to the top recently in Argentina, Brazil, Nicaragua, Bolivia, Venezuela and Ecuador by promising to kick out multinationals and share more of the wealth and the land with the majority.
    Weak institutions, strong dictators
    Today, most countries in Latin America have weak institutions that the public does not respect -- courts, police, congress, executive -- so they trust a system that is like that run by the mafia: you take care of me, I´ll do a favor for you. It´s all about relationships, family connections, friendships, alliances. The law is not trusted, respected or used to resolve disputes. There is even a recognized occupation for people whose job is to facilitate paperwork (gestor in Mexico, tramitedor in Bolivia) by strategic gifts (mordidas en Mexico, coimas in Bolivia) Investors shun a lot of these countries because contracts are hard to enforce (no seguridad jurídica). and so much more and no room!

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Go, Paraguay! Can you take mercosur to the ICJ and have it declared illegitimate? I do hope that the EU takes note and abandons all discussions with these crooks.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    That wont happen, Brazil is just too important for your scrupleæess leaders. We all know tjey put cash before their own values, don't we? :)

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    Veja:
    http://en.mercopress.com/2010/06/02/brazilian-press-calls-paraguay-rich-beggar-superb-actor-in-asking-for-alms

    “the Paraguayan Senate that never felt any love towards President Hugo Chavez, refused to consider it.”

    Duh, what do you expect from a nation with a corrupt dominant elite...
    http://en.mercopress.com/2010/06/02/brazilian-press-calls-paraguay-rich-beggar-superb-actor-in-asking-for-alms

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    31 against, 3 for, 11 blank and 270.000.000 didn't care :)

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Mercusor:

    Laws and rules ha!, we follow them everytime they are in our favor. Othertimes....we....we have to be political!!!

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    BK
    “reactionary and stupid”
    I would reserve that phrase for one who refers to the democratically elected senators as oligarchs now.

    Focus on the house of Lords.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @7 Guzz as a Scandahovian Uruguayan do you have adrop of Charrua blood in you I ask? My Paraguay friends all speak Guarani. You speak Charrua of course which I dont and I dont know any other Uruguayan who does. Come off it Guzz. We are criollos of European descent and our ancestors eliminated the indios in our country, notwith standing Artigas ideas on the subject

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    The founder of the Colorado party murdered our Charruas, the same party that later surrender power to the military so they again could have a go at their own ones. I'm a proud Tupamaro, follower of Artigas, as the name itself implies, so don't wash their dirty hands on me. As a rosadito, I understand you need a complice to blaim, but that was Riveras work entirely.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Stuff it Guzz. Its part of a dark side of our history and niether you are I can change it. You Tupamaros, a movement that didnt exist in those far off times, really enjoy digging up old bones from the past. We have had two rererendums on the Ley de Caducidad and the electorate have given thier verdict on each occasion but you folk still want to rake over old coals again. We are in the 21st century you know. In a war there are always innocent people who get killed on both sides and a war always bring out the sadists from thier dark hiding places .
    I dont need an accomplice to blame. Its history although recent and we cant change it. Lets get on with building a modern state for all Uruguayans and our kids who will inherit our legacy rather than sniping from abroad.
    Your comment about rosaditos washing thier dirty hands, I had expected something better from a man of your intelligence. Look under your own fingernails. So was Pontius Pilate the ancestor of the Tupamaro movement? As far as I recall he was a great one for washing his hands

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    16 Guzz (#)
    Aug 24th, 2012 - 03:11 pm

    Strange, Guzz, in several previous comments you have proudly claimed Charrua blood, and now when Mr. Redpoll asks if you have Charrua blood in your veins you don't answer with a rotund YES, but blame the Colorados for their murder.

    I am calling you a LIAR Guzz, you are exactly that, and probably an kirchnerite troll to boot!!!!!

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Guzz is quite happy from the comfort of Denmark to snipe against his own country. Quite honestly I couldnt care a tinkers eff about his politics. If he wants to help his country he should come back and help us develope a modern state

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Simon
    Quite a difference in having Charrua blood and being Charrua...

    redpoll
    I don't snipe at Uruguay, I'm the one defending it. You are the one thrashing our little nation.
    I'm not a permanent resident in Denmark, as I've told you, I'm here for my sailing licence, which will enable me to proceed with my work in Uruguay.
    By the way, Uruguay IS a modern state, much more so than these old nations on their elephant routes...

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Suff it Guzz I pay my taxes every month on time to my country on the button and contribute thus to the social programmes instituted by YOUR government. What do you contribute? Yes we are a modern state but there is always room for improvement. I dont want ot engage in a political slanging match with you but why dont you come home and help us forward? Reduction in salary yes, but its called that outmoded word patriotism

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Sailing licence....you a man of the ocean now Guzz???

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    My salary here is 15k pesos, don't worry, I'm not throwing manteca al techo.
    I could not care less about money, redpoll, I'm here because these Nordics have the tools that we need to get where we want to go. That simple.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Guzz. Come home Bill Bailey. Can you really live on that salary in Europe? the Indendenta of Montevideo has a salary of 109.000 pesos a month but quite against the constitution there are 89 fat cats, drones who live off our taxes who take home much more than that and get thier nice houses fixed up as a perk too. So if you are so altruistic, come home to a better wage and sort out that honeypot for a start. Its your Party muchacho

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    Malvinas: Chinese help for squid
    http://www.ambito.com/diario/noticia.asp?id=651309

    Cristina claimed the Malvinas sovereignty claim over a tribute to Gaucho Rivero
    http://www.ambito.com/diario/noticia.asp?id=651309

    The strongest phrases Cristina Kirchner's speech in defense of La Campora
    http://www.ambito.com/diario/noticia.asp?id=651309

    CFK: “We defend what belongs to everyone”
    http://www.ambito.com/diario/noticia.asp?id=651309

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #23 I spent that on cigars.....lol

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • susana brown

    @ 26
    I believe what I have said before....your comments sound like Conqueror!...lol

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @27 How would you tell?

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JUBA

    28 conquistador 17hs. 15 min. OEA said: BRITISH GO HOME !!!!!!!!! rememeber I said: time, time and LATAM for latinamericans !!!!!! you are died !!

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    ok

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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    Aug 24th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    Ignore these fascist Narco_Sojaists. Their days are counted. Move on Mercosur, focus on the future and go forth and multiply.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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  • PirateLove

    @29 Juba.....did any of your mothers children survive child birth? (rhetorical)

    i heard there is a village missing its idiot and they want you back, hurry they have ice cream in the oven.

    “LATAM for latinamericans !!!!!!” please feel free to emphasise “ latinamericans” and what happens to those who are fortunate not to be of latino inbred stock?

    “ you are died !!” its pronounced “you are dead” as dead as the majority of the 3 brain cells you were spawned with, a side affect of cross species inbreeding no doubt.
    if you have to chat shit in english for fuk sake learn the queens english first you moronic racist fukwit!

    GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! and SELF-DETERMINATION! !!Sweet!!

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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  • ProRG_American

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  • Brasileiro

    My south american life......for ever and ever
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_TeWPbN-64&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=27&feature=plpp_video

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BAMF Paraguay

    Can anyone deny the gigantic balls that Paraguay has? They nearly wiped themselves out in the Triple Alliance War because they simply would not surrender. Then the Chaco War, that was impressive, fighting in the freaking place. And now this. I have to give it up to them, their balls are the envy of the world right now.

    Brasileiro - out of respect for other posters, or just to have anyone else understand what you are posting, you should write in english. We could care less about how good or bad your English is.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Susanna

    @28 Conqueror @30 Captain Poppy= same man traveling soon to Bs.As. to visit 'in laws” the ones..... in the cementary...

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    My english is for many less words in englisee! Google translator, boy....The Miracle!

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    @36 “lazy” & “biggots and zenophobics” you being a bit hard on the argtards there gringo ,they are not all that bad, except that is the breathing ones.
    as for languages why learn a language of a 3rd world south american shithole, seems pointless? or a latam dictatorship where you dont have a voice? i have no plans to live in a pisspot banana republic unless i commit a crime and ecuador will let me move in,
    English is the most important widely spoken language in the world , the fact you even found it important enough to learn this truly magnificent universal english language of the victorious nation of GREAT BRITAIN and so you should all poverty stricken 3rd world countries should,they have nothing better to do its not as if they have jobs is it? thus proves my point , i dont have a license to fly space shuttles, and why? because i dont need one, get my point???
    out of curiosity how do you say “SELF-DETERMINATION” in a 3rd world language of the poverty stricken americas?? i dont believe that phrase exists in LA-TAM-PAX.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    BAMF Paraguay, The war of the triple alliance was a tragedy. A black marki in Latin American history. There is blame to go around on all sides. Another time, another place. Resulting from British and Europen interests. Paraguay's populkation was dessimated. Any nation up against the wall would react in the same way. The people descended from a warrior race. The Chaco war is another debacle promoted by oiutside interests that drove two peaceful neighbors to ablody conflict for oil esouces that did not exist. The Bolivians just were too poorly trained and equpped, with limited resources. They spread themselves too thin. Events that should not be repeated. Don't let your self de deceived about reports to troop movenents and arms build ups in Bolivia. Remember, Evo Morales and Lugo signed the final territorial agrrement resulting from the 1032 war, End of story. Recognize the eney, they are not your neighbors but those that are trying to divide you.

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    PirateLove
    Au-ste-ri-ty :)
    That will sort you out. Hopefully it will hit you in particular like... a ramadan :)

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    IN-FL-AT-ION :))))))))

    as for ramadan i dont eat currys sorry! sort me out :)))))) please im waiting

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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  • PirateLove

    SE-LF DE-TER-MIN-AT-ION !!!! :D :D :D

    Slower guzz-bucket???? O-K

    S-E-L-F D-E-T-E-R-M-I-N-A-T-I-O-N!!!!

    Aug 24th, 2012 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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  • Guzz

    It will. First step is the realization of that you are nothing but a little island in the outskirts of Europe. Your time is past and so is your might. Just look at Ecuador, telling you to shovel your laws up where they belong. As far as I'm concerned, Ecuador just passed you in the food chain :)

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  • PirateLove

    @50 size doesnt matter dont you know this ,your wife says she tells you that all the time.
    yes lets look at ecuador, not actually a champion for human rights and freedom of speech basically a dictatorship shithole. Strange how ecuador told UK this and that, yet what can they do guzzbucket? what can they do? the rapist is going fookin nowhere unless we say, UK is doing this the right way if ecuador thinks its scoring points over UK thats fine but the UK has final say regardless of latam/islam :) bullshit, and you know this, ecuador knows this too thats why they want talks and we say no, they had their chance my ramadan munching fanatic, so going back to my question Guzzbucket what can ecuador do? seen as that is your arguement, what can they do?, We have him, little old defenceless island britain and may i remind you UN permanent member, unlike Iran,pakistan,zzzzzzzzistan................or any other fantatical 3rd worlder........still waiting Guzzbucket, its your party and it tastes good but you need new material, this isnt sorting me out, come on im tired......same old

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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  • Guzz

    Pirate
    I don't care really, all I know is that Britain got a lesson in international law from Ecuador :) bloody hell mate, if Ecuador is all what you say, where does it leave you? Now go and do what Ecuador says :)

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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  • Guzz

    Jajajaja Brasileiro!!!

    Un abrazo do sul

    Beautiful music by the way, as always

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Paris. France! Great France!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJWh9wcz4Qs&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=173&feature=plpp_video

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BAMF Paraguay

    Paraguay = balls that are soo damn huge they drag across the floor. Paraguayan Senate has just tea-bagged Hugo Chavez with their gigantor balls of steel.

    #44 PROG - The only countries that currently give a shit about Paraguay are the Mercosur countries and now lovely Hugo Chavez. USA and the “western” countries could care less what happens here. Of course the “west” would love to see a less radical Paraguay, but they aren't going to be devoting any resources to that end. Crazy leaders like we have down here can lead to crazy stuff like invading the Falklands or maybe invading Paraguay. We study history so that we don't repeat it; well if you look at history, crazy leaders like to invade countries because they think that makes them awesome (Hitler, Stalin, Napolean, etc.) So Paraguay should just lease a piece of the chaco to some big military with the agreement that they will protect Paraguay in the case of an invasion.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

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  • Forgetit87

    A pity that Paraguay's opinion doesn't matter anymore.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 05:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    wrong, ecuador didnt teach us fuckall the reason UK has not gone in because
    at this moment in time the rapist is not worth a diplomatic row even with a pisspot country like ecuador who are misusing their embassy although under UK law we can revoke the embassys status, but that becomes messy when we can sit and wait keeping him on ice , and leave ecuador pissing in the wind, we are nobodys fool and certainly wont play into the ecuadors hands, the puppet country of venezula.
    status quo....good luck getting him to ecuador :) regardless of ecuadors squeels, The great nation of The UK has the say here, otherwise he would be in Ecuador now wouldnt he? :)

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Assange to Ecuador? Don't think that was the intentions, old empire :)

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (62( Guzz

    I “Think” the intention of Wikileaks (and Mr. Assange) is :

    “Bring Important News and Information to the Public”.
    http://wikileaks.org/About.html

    In order to “Bring Important News and Information to the Public”, the public must know one exists…..................

    The first big break-through into the Public Eye was on the 5th of April 2010 with this explicit video:
    http://wikileaks.org/About.html

    The second big break-through into the Public Eye was on the 28th of November 2010 with the publication of the ”Cablegates”:
    http://wikileaks.org/About.html

    Many smaller break throughs followed (the London Interbank Offered Rate (LIBOR) scandal, between others)
    http://wikileaks.org/About.html

    The third big break through into the public eye we’re witnessing today……............... No links needed.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    @62 why did ecuador give rapist citizenship if getting him to their country was not their intentions, it would seem a pointless gesture. The UK has put a stop to that.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Don't fuck with Paraguay. She may have more friends than you know.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @29 You can have latin america. No-one with any taste or class would live there. Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru, Venezuela, argieland, Brazil, all cesspits built on the bones and blood of their betters! Sh*te on legs.
    @41 Wrong again, SussieSlob! Trying to change your ID? Too late. I have friends in the U.S. Cops, lawyers, USAF.
    @44 Unfortunately, a war resulting from Brazilian and argie imperialism. Uruguay asked Paraguay for help. More argie propaganda.
    @45 Po-ver-ty. Must make you sick as you see the wealth of Denmark and reflect on your own po-ver-ty!
    @50 Big enough to stamp all over you, guzz-bucket. P.S. That's a toilet facility!
    @60 And you are who?
    @62 What's your interpretation then genocidal gorilla? I did get that right didn't I? Something that kills millions and drags its knucles on the ground!
    @63 Piss off, prick. Or at least get some balls.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Forgetit87

    66 Conqueror

    What about you, fucktard? You are who? A sociopathic know-nothing with genocidal fantasies thinking you can comment on every news piece about Latin America, which you don't know and having nothing to do with, apart of some petty squabble regarding some fucking islands no one cares about.

    Aug 25th, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Forgtetit
    That's precisely my image of conqueror, except he's on his last verse as well :)

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @67, 68 Now, now, girlies. Did I get too close to the home truth for you? Living in your little psychotic dreamworlds. Get this, defectives. You are just about big enough for us to wipe our ar*es with. Forgotten (genocidal slob 1) who thinks the opinions of more than 6 million people don't matter. And grizzle (genocidal slob 2) who is such a “brave” gorilla that, by his own admission, he ran away. Examples of “white” supremacists and their hangers-on. It doesn't matter whether your ancestors were Spanish, Portuguese or turncoat amerindians. You walk on the blood and bones of those whose land you have stolen. You might live it down in another thousand years. And in the meantime you have the effrontery to challenge a nation that did more good than harm, alleviated more suffering than it caused and always sought peace before war. And also a burgeoning nation that displaced no-one, stole from no-one and killed no-one. Whilst you and yours have done exactly the opposite. We continued to “grow up”. There is a distinct possibility that people like you never will. I “might” feel some sympathy for you if you didn't carry on in the same old way. And if you didn't make me want to vomit!

    Aug 26th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SBUS

    @69 ConQUEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR
    make us a favor and move to Hormuz..
    that is a better place for your
    to show off..
    and please,
    don't forget to take with you
    Captain Poppy, Briton, Conor Loude-Brown, Isolde, Ynsere, Skare...and the rest of the UK team.....they are all the same CRAP!

    Aug 27th, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #8 “Multinational companies support dictators
    Democracy is messy, so multinational companies, with the support of Democratic and Republican presidents alike over the last 200 years, have supported dictators who guaranteed stability”

    I think you've stumbled upon the heart of the matter. Surely you can see why socialism is popular and capitalism unpopular with such a history?

    #14 Don't worry Condorito I'm no supporter of the House of Lords =)

    Aug 28th, 2012 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BAMF Paraguay

    BK - Socialism is popular because it promises all sorts of free things like food, housing, cell phones, health care, cars, gas, etc. etc. etc. Socialism is expanding in the USA because people are being promised these type of things and they are stupid enough to actually believe they'll get it. Look, Paraguay didn't go that route because Paraguayans understand that the government doesn't do shit for you, you have to work to make money and buy your stuff. You have to get together with neighbors and build roads, power lines, wells, etc. The government here has been absent for so many years that promises of free stuff doesn't work. Sure a small part of the population gets excited about it, but overall no one believes that our corrupt government is really going to get anything that they promise done. So that is why socialism hasn't grown here in Paraguay. If your theory were true, then Paraguay would be one of the first to become socialist because it has had such a “history”.

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  • British_Kirchnerist

    #72 Thats an intellectually coherent argument, I'll give you that. Still think the facts back me up rather than you though...

    Aug 31st, 2012 - 01:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    “Paraguayan Senate defies Mercosur: votes against Venezuela’s incorporation” MEANINGLESS!!

    Aug 31st, 2012 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornelius

    Paraguay need's to wait and all the business will run to Paraguay after the socialist regime of their neighbors’ run the course to misery and instability because the poor will demand more and more and more! And their populist leaders will tax them more and more until no business can prosper.

    Sep 01st, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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