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Argentina blasts UK “arrogant” approach to Assange case and Falklands’ dispute
The Argentine Ambassador to the United Kingdom Alicia Castro said on Tuesday that the UK’s “arrogant” approach to the Julian Assange’s case “was similar” to its approach to Argentina and particularly, the sovereignty dispute over the Falklands/Malvinas Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“ Assange turned up and shook hands with all the ambassadors and diplomatic representatives and stayed on for quite some time. He talked with several of us while following the OAS debate”, said Ambassador Castro.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 02:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Diplomatic representatives from Cuba, Uruguay, Brazil, Bolivia, Guatemala and Peru were present at the Ecuadorean embassy, said Ms. Castro.”
Huh??? How did they all fit in that little apartment?
Assange must have rolled up his bed to make room...
:-)
1 “Assange must have rolled up his bed to make room...”
Aug 29th, 2012 - 03:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0No he couldn't! Mr Camoron and Mr William Hague are hiding there out of embarrassment after trying to assault the Ecuadorian embassy.
@02 Marcos Eh
Aug 29th, 2012 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0weak reply
LATAM will not be able to provoke a response.
They are desperately trying to keep the issue alive, on the world stage.
Ecuador will see nothing happens and lose interest in Assange, sooner rather than later.
Then Assange will be abandoned to face the music... :-)
When Alicia Castro was Hugo Chavez personal hoochie she sure learned to open her trap mighty big, but when she got old and flabby and he swapped her out for a nice firm blowup doll, she flipped! South American leaders and their personal f-toys sure are nuts!
Aug 29th, 2012 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3 Troy Eh
Aug 29th, 2012 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0LATAM responded already(OAS)
British government is desperately trying to hide out of embarrassment.
“For us Argentines, this fact, that shows us the arrogance of British diplomacy, does not surprise us.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 04:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It is very similar to the approach taken toward the Malvinas Islands,”
The Argentine definition of diplomacy:if you don't do what we want, you're arrogant and undiplomatic.
Don't worry Alicia. Assange likes them young and nubile so you should be perfectly safe from the lizard man.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 05:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We were sitting looking at the debate when Assange turned up and shook hands with all the ambassadors and diplomatic representatives and stayed on for quite some time. He talked with several of us while following the OAS debate”.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's as if she's describing a meeting with a living legend rather than a suspected rapist holed up somewhere avoiding trial. I suppose Assange is the most significant person she's had access to of late. She calls the UK arrogant. Even after she gate crashed William Hague's meeting earlier this year. Okay.
@5 Marcos boludo
Aug 29th, 2012 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0”LATAM responded already(OAS)”
Oh, yes. Sorry, didn't really notice.
OAS can stand out in the middle of the desert and have all the meetings and caterwauling they like - nobody hears them.
When they go home, after feeling all puffed up, the celebrity rapist will still be in a tiny apartment in London, stepping on his hosts' toes and getting in the way.
You can help him by paying his expenses again - he needs internet to read Swedish news, MercoPress perhaps?? Does he have telly paid for so that he can see the outside world???
We should buy the rest of the building and those surrounding it and get on with the long overdue and very extensive refurbishment. To reduce the inconvienience to Londoners they should speed the work by working all night - especially when jack hammers and drills are required.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 02 Marcos Alejandro (#)
Aug 29th, 2012 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Really? or just in your head? which is the Latin way by the looks of things. Note to self: Juvenal response expected.
@10 Idle
Aug 29th, 2012 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ they should speed the work by working all night - especially when jack hammers and drills are required”
Oh, come on! He won't be able to hear “Corrie” then.
Marcos - so you think that wanting to exradite an alleged rapist is embarassing? Your mother would be proud.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I still you still doing bugger all about the Falklands.
Arrogance is fine when one can back it up.
And in the real world , this is a tumble weed moment :))
Aug 29th, 2012 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do not wish to imply that Mr Assange is guilty, but if by any chance this is the conclusion eventually arrived at by the Swedish judicial system, these ambassadors will have been consorting with a criminal.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 y
Aug 29th, 2012 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree Ecuador is hampering criminal proceedings and if he is eventually taken to swedish court and found gilty then Ecuador would be guilty of harbouring a criminal.
It won't be long before Assange gets sick of all those ambassador parties and Ferrero Rochers.
It's taken them a while, all the same, to get in on Correa's cacerolazo. I wonder why that is?
Aug 29th, 2012 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just carry on ignoring the freek and his deluded chums. The longer it goes on and the UK does nothing the more Ecuador and the rest will look stupid and out or touch.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is noticeable that for all Assanges' bleating about upholding free speach, he hides in the Ecuadorian embassy. A country where the president is taking on ever more power for himself and is reducing the freedom of the press.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0To me the man is simply an opportunist and self-aggrandising snob, he thinks himself better than the average person and belives that the law does not apply to him.
There is no doubt that whistle blowing on wrong-doing is a useful thing, but I am not convinced that everything wikileaks does is really very helpful, and may have cost lives and damaged international relations unnecessarily.
The thing is that Assange probably just finds that amusing.
That malignant idiotic witch really should be expelled for interference in affairs which have absolutely nothing to do with Argentina.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Right on the money Madamme Embassador!
Aug 29th, 2012 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Typical Argentine. Jump on the band wagon and turn the attention as much as possible towards the Falklands.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am starting to believe that they have a pre-filled out section on all letter head, note and mailing paper which is dedicated towards the Falklands.
Imagine ordering a coffee in Argentina… Can I have a tall caramel latte with an extra shot and the Falklands are ours and should be returned to us.
As for Assange. The credibility he built up for Wikileaks is now being undermined by his current actions he has chosen to take. All he is now going to be recognised for is being an alleged rapist who used his fame to assist him in avoiding answering the questions over his conduct with these woman.
The only good thing at present is the UK’s current strategy of sitting back and letting everyone else implode both legally and politically. When the dust settles and there is a new focus for trying to claim the Falklands for Argentina and their SA pals I am confident we will quietly deal with Assange issue diplomatically and deliver him to face the music.
Ref 21:
Aug 29th, 2012 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ohh look, it's BK with a new login, so now he's a yank. Make up your mind deluded fool
“London is being urged by the United Nations to negotiate and participate in dialogue with Argentina.”
Aug 29th, 2012 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is it?
@24
Aug 29th, 2012 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, I had wondered that myself...?
Desperation from an Argentine government heading for a coup, this bitch will be claiming political asylum when Turkey neck is overthrown.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0This race by Latin American nations to cosy up to Assange is interesting ...
Aug 29th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0It shows a lack of statesmanship and a circus mentality ... some things never change!
I'm sure we must have the ability to target a sea viper right up her flue!
Aug 29th, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0l fail to see the connection between JAssange holing up in the Ecuadorian embassy & Argentina's ridiculous “claims” to the Falkland lslands.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please explain this to us, Ambassador.
On an aside, although vaguely related (by the common theme of the inviolability of foreign embassies), does anyone know if anyone has actually been prosecuted for throwing molotov cocktails at the British Embassy in BsAs in April?
Aug 29th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or is sending a letter that can be misconstrued as a threat to invade an embassy somehow more of an issue than actually trying to set light to one?
CFK finally got a mention in the British press http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2194734/Brace-Argentinian-president-Cristina-Kirchner-political-attack.html
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0No mention of the Castro numpty, though. Obviously not important enough.
That's a good point - the Argentine police didn't make much effort to protect the UK embassy from firebombs.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0#29 isolda oh !, my dear !. the connection between Assange to be the same as Argentina´s claims: OEA said: America for AMERICANS !!!!! remember, time, time !!!!!
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I bet that Castro's tin pot masters in Argentina have been on the telephone instructing her to stir the dirt on the UK. Pathetic.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 031 Always the same article...the same propaganda... No matter what arg president is on power he will always defend Malvinas argentinas. Its not subject of this government.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0And see that England is getting defeated more with words than others ways. And SA is using only words.
Argentine Panto! and nothing more. Any opportunity to strike at the UK over The Falklands is too good too miss it just left the little problem of linking the Falklands and rapists situation that he alone has put himself into.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0And “arrogant” is that the best Argtards can do? how is UK arrogant? is that because Tinpot Ecuador made a false accusation against The great glorious nation that is The UK saying we threatened them and ecuador had to quickly backtrack on its worded statement as they knew they had overeacted and look like neurotic dicks?,
For Argentina to say “UK threatened” is somewhat predictable as they have their expansionist agenda to stick too, but guess what Argtards your war of words make you no closer to getting your grubby retarded hands on The Falklands than you were yesterday or the day before, and thats how it will stay.
so please keep chatting Shit Argtards, Its All Good!!!
SELF-DETERMINATION!!!!
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN!!!! (for ALL argtards) :))))
Clearly in the eyes of Castro and losers of her ilk 'gringo' always equals 'arrogant'.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have to ask, wtf does this have to do with the Falkland Islands?
Why, of all the embassies in London, did Assange decide on the Ecuadorian embassy? Ecuador has previous for winding up the US, and El Presidente Rafael Correa is right up Hugo Chavez's ample posterior.
“Hodges is the third US diplomat to be expelled by Correa since he took office in 2007. Correa is a close ally of presidents Hugo Chávez of Venezuela and Evo Morales of Bolivia. The new expulsion will leave all three of those nations without US ambassadors.
Bolivia expelled the US ambassador in late 2008, accusing him of inciting the opposition, while Venezuela has been without a US ambassador since July after objecting to the candidate named by Washington.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/05/ecuador-us-ambassador-leave-wikileaks
Assange was probably invited by the embassies of Bolivia, Venezuela and Ecuador. Likely the Ecuadorians made him the best offer.
For this interference in domestic European affairs and the British and Swedish legal process. The entire Ecuadorian entourage should and given 24 hours to leave the UK, as should Castro and the other presumptuous South American muppets who have involved themselves. They are malevolent, malicious and serve no useful purpose.
@35 Malen
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's always the same article because it's always the same news, variations of a theme of this:
Turkey neck announces the next master stroke in her campaign to annex a peaceful neighbour in order to distract the plebs from a) how badly Argentina is being run and b) how monumentally unsucessful her last master stroke was at provoking anything more than muffled sniggers.
15 ynsere
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Assange is already a criminal by failing to surrender to his bail.
This offence is guilty as charged (there cannot be a defence if you think about it).
#36 pirate love hahahahah, dreams, yours dreams are ridiculous.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remember, time.... and you go home !! . If you said argtards, I said: BENNYS !!!!
Please UK don't arrest him for jumping bail, just send him to Sweden who can then, when the are down with him, send him on to Ecuador - his choice of residence.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have to be stupid not to see the connection between the ecuadorian embassy incident and the Malvinas dispute.But some people are stupid but it doesn't make them less dangerous.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are separate issues around the ecuadorian embassy but it's taking a long time for red mist Brits to see that.But they will when the mist clears a bit.
During the military campaign Argentina was winning, winning, winning... until they lost.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0During the diplomatic campaign Argentina is winning, winning, winning... until they lose.
Yawn, can't be bothered to read the whole silly rant, it means sod all to anyone, least of all to HMG who know they have done nothing wrong. When they eventually see that they are licking the arse of a lunatic (Assange) they will leave him to rot. Oh, silly me, thats what they have done for generations, licked lunatics arses that is! What the feck this has to do with the Falklands is also mind numbingly boring.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43
Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me rephrase that for you sir:
During the military campaign Argentina was losing, losing, losing... until they lost.
During the diplomatic campaign Argentina is losing, losing, losing... until they lose.
During the military campaign Argentina was whining, whining, whining... until they lost.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0During the diplomatic campaign Argentina is whining, whining, whining... until they lose.
If they were to have an issue with exporting lemons, their precious disease ridden lemons, they would bring up the Falklands. They need to stay on point to divert the lack of imports in agentina. A friend in RGland laptop died and cannot get another one because they are not inported anymore.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does anyone recall an attempted assualt from the British on the ecuadorian apartment....I mean embassy?
“It's as if she's describing a meeting with a living legend rather than a suspected rapist holed up somewhere avoiding trial. ” (Joe Bloggs #8)
Aug 29th, 2012 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Life changes many people .. and the way we view them.
Yesterday's international terrorists become today's presidents.
'Rapists' become legends,
and vice versa.
Argentina are good at making heroes out of criminals.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another weak excuse to bring up their impotent claim for the Falklands.
A claim which lacking definate historical backing will remain, impotent.
Clarin, the Buenos Aires newspaper commented today on this undiplomatic declaration of Alicia Castro and almost without exception its readers' comments were very derogatory of her. Most comments were based on the fact that Castro's only qualifications for her job was that she had been a “trolly dolly” for Aerolineas Argentinas for most of her working career. She clearly is not respected for what she alleges to to do on behalf of Argentina.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On a lighter note, Penn Gillette's weekly show (iTunes and YouTube) while rather neutral on the rape charge had good fun at Assanges expense. Most accounts may be divided on on the charges from Sweeden. But they are in accord with one fact, JA is one lousy roommate. His reinactment with Gilbert Godfried (not safe for little niños) of likely exchanges between the increasingly unwelcome guest and the crammped and harried embassy staff and their machinations to recover their lost office space with or without guidance or approval from Quito was hilarious.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The RG's are like children, screaming and shouting “we want our sweets and we want them now” at anyone and everyone. Surely everyone is now tiring of their infantile politics that not only irritates and alienates the UK but many other countries too.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was listening to a radio show about this mess. They said Ecuador could put him in a diplomatic pouch to get him out of the country but of course UK could take the “pouch” not open in but put it in a very hot or very cold place until he came out then arrest him.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That would be hilarious!
Reading through some of the thoughts of the South American based commentators, and I get the distinct impression that they believe they are winning some kind of battle with Britain (or England if you are a South American).
Aug 29th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't quite understand how this Assange predicament with the Falklands are linked. The only link is tenuous, and that is the South American mind-set of SA vs. England.
Let's get this clear, Assange is only been offered asylum by Ecuador because it pisses off the West. That is the only reason for doing it. If South America respected international law, democracy and judiciary, they would support Assange being sent to Sweden to face a trial. And most importantly, we are talking about Sweden, we all know he will get a fair trial there.
And Argentines, please stop the nonsense talk of how Britain disrespects international law by considering to storm the Ecuadorian Embassy. Let's not forget the level of attack the British Embassy received in Buenos Aries, with very little protection from the Police and since, very little action against those who were involved in the attack.
Argentines and South Americans. You need to learn that laws, rules and conventions should be applied fairly and to everyone. You cannot continue to single out or ignore certain aspects that you don't like because it goes against your actions or beliefs, while at the same time hold others to standards you are not reaching.
Oh how preditable, Argentine ambasador jumps on the anti-British bandwagon in order to try and make tenious links with the Falklands. The Argentine ruling ellite are becoming politcal paranoid it would seem, they seem to see links to the Falklands everywhere and anywhere. Then again with the internal problems inA rgentina (CFKs massive fall from grace for a start, only 30% support in the population) it is all anticipated. Put your hand up if you didnt see this comming..... I guess there are very few hands up right now. Why does the current government claim on one hand to be anti milatry junta yet uses the same tactics the milatry Junta used to subdue the population at times of internal problems (The Falklands; restriction in media freedoms, abuses of power, corruption and consitutunal reform). Argentina does not want the Falklands it just wants to be able to drag the topic out when ever it needs it to distratc its citizens from the failing economiy, political corruption and poor leadership. if it actual gained the falklands the govenments would lose its main distraction technique, and CFK cannot afford that at the moment.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Miss Piggy is merely an irritant but an irritant that can be tolerated and even indulged especially when all that luverley black gold is brought to the surface and transported to all corners of the globe.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have to say, having your way with a lady whilst she's sleeping, even if you reckon she might not particularly object, is at the very least ungentlemanly and well out of order. Not so in Argentina, Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia and Brazil where, it would appear, if you let your guard down; you're fair game.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe Castro reckons that, after being locked up in the Ecuadorian embassy for a few weeks, Assange might be up for it? I suppose it must be a step up after Hugo.
Britain's governance and diplomacy are not perfect but really Alicia and the anti UK SA mob are children.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its really quite pathetic.
Imagine if the British Ambassador behaved in a similare manner in Argentina. At a guess he'd be packing his bags.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does the uk saying it had a law which allowed to enter the embassy firstly and then the area between the ecuadorian and Colombian never really happen and was it the papers lying again.Sorry it's some posters creating their own reality.Just like the Yanquis do.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They speak like this because they know they can get away with it and score political points domestically. Simple as that.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It undermines their argument in a way if Britain allows them to say these things without reacting to them.
Self awareness people. Self awareness!
ChrisR @ 39
Aug 29th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, you have a point. Nevertheless, I see no connection at all between the Assange affair and the Falklands.
Alicia Castro visits Assange
Aug 29th, 2012 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.clarin.com/politica/Alicia-Castro-visito-Assange_0_764323626.html
@40 :) you not like the word Argtard? ok JUBA im sorry.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0if “Argtard” offends you and other argtards, i will never use argtard again as long as argtards drop their argtard attitude towards the Falklands people and stick to their own argtard business, then there will be no need for me to mention argtard again, but seen as argtards are argtards you will have to get use to being an ARGTARD! :)
SELF DETERMINATION! (for argtard)
I wonder if any serious/civilized country in the world has a good relationship with an RG Ambassador? I know Timmerman ruined any chance of the USA having a serious relationship with Argentina until the Ks are gone.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63
Aug 29th, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Many more visits like that and poor Julian will be handing himself in.
@64 PirateLove WOW! You're just as bad as the Argies that come on here and make absolute no sense, and spread hat about the UK. Just remember that most of the SA people will probably be nice people, but have the leaders of CFK, Chavez and a couple more. But, I would have to disagree partially with the comments on Ecuador and Mr Correa. From what I've researched, Correa has done a pretty good job with building new schools, hospitals and transport with limited funds. They may not be in the best of condition, but it is certainly a step up from what they had before. Also, I will admit that he does have a problem with the media. He doesn't like it when he's criticised, and wants them to shut up. But wouldn't we all want that, if we were in his position? I would. We all have something that pisses us off, and for Correa, it happens to be the media. So that, he has to really change, and then maybe Ecuador can join Chile and Uruguay in being good examples of a nice democracy. Agree?
Aug 29th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Castro is another joke from the Comedy club that is currently running Argentina. She talks about arrogant how about Argentina being the World's top protectionist country. How about Argentina having trade disputes running against the USA, EU, Japan and Mexico - more disptes running than any other country.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You dig Castro?
65#You don't know much,so how do you know this.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Won't a big profit change all this liked and disliked or do you think there something more to all these relationships. Really you do make me laugh sometimes
It just seems to me that it is Castros tone that demonstrates “la arrogancia”. And it is ironic that she is criticizing British Diplomats of arrogance when she is the one being the arrogant diplomat. I don't think diplomats usually speak with this tone when criticizing the country that has received them.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does anyone else see it this way? If not, I'd be curious to know what I am seeing wrong.
Another question; below is a portion of post #54:
“Let's not forget the level of attack the British Embassy received in Buenos Aires, with very little protection from the Police and since, very little action against those who were involved in the attack.”
Does anyone know when this event took place and what form the attack took?
#64 amor pirata and #67 el hombre, .....ahahahahah amor pirata you are kelper = benny ,........ahahahh dreams, dreams......equal el hombre hahahah, remember, time, time.....hahahah,...english first name: kelper and now: benny,.........hahahahah ..... citizen 2nd.....falkland company are your grandfathers......... ahahahahah
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#71 Is this person on some sort of medication. I think you need to lie down in a dark room.
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#72 viva Las Malvinas ahahahahahah, remember OEA said: AMERICA for AMERICANS,.....time, time.....
Aug 29th, 2012 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@71 JUBA
Aug 30th, 2012 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0there seem to be a few of these Malvinistas who jabber and catcall incoherently.
I guess CFK has stopped some funding - they can't afford to keep the loonies locked up anymore! LOL
73 - But not native americans :(
Aug 30th, 2012 - 07:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0you lot have cleared them out of their lands
JUBA
Aug 30th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0America for Americans! Falklanders should consider themselves Americans and share the continent with the rest of us. I don't understand your theory.
“Falklanders should consider themselves Americans and share the continent with the rest of us.” #76
Aug 30th, 2012 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0No reason at all why the products of the Falklands should not be transferred to the Continental countries ...... this is called TRADE.
Materials and intellectual capital should be able to flow freely between the countries of the Continent.
Whilst there is no barrier for 'brain power', there is a set of high walls around most countries of the Southern Cone, which blocks trade in materials and artifacts.
The problem seems to be one of other people's - continentals - making .... it beggars belief, and flies in the face of logic and good sense.
I just don't get the America for Americans argument. If America is the continent then there is nothing strange about independent English speaking islands being a part of it, Jamaica, Bahamas, Trinidad and Tobago, Cayman and Barbados to name a few. Should all those countries be “absorbed” into the mainland, should Cuba become a part of Mexico? I don't know what you are going to do about Hispaniola, I guess Haiti could become part of Quebec. Juba is a wanker.
Aug 30th, 2012 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Argentina wants a piece of the action, grandstanding along with Ecuador. The connection says betwixt Assange and the Malvinas is so obvious says Castro. Well of course it is, both of these latam nations don't understand international law, human rights or criminal law. This is what links these two matters. Troublesome, juvenile so called democracies just can't hack it with the big boys.
Aug 30th, 2012 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0JUBA has been over imbibing the alcoholic “mate”! Does anyone understand what he is burbling about? Please enlighten me someone.
Aug 30th, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#76 zhivago good, good. YES !!! Malvinas are americans !!!, but current islanders ......are BRITISH !!!!, and british are not americans, are british.
Aug 30th, 2012 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”80 gordo: haahahaha, you are fool.
81... Your right they are British at last you understand. They have only been there for 200 years though.
Aug 30th, 2012 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see that south americans are starting to refer to themselves as Americans and not there country. Interesting.........I suppose Mexicans are Americans too, as well as Candians.
Aug 30th, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why aren't they poppy.Is there some copyright or genetic material to prevent it.
Aug 30th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course they're Americans!
Aug 30th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All forty or so nations of them, across two continents.
What annoys me is that people from the USA think and speak as if they are the only ones allowed to call themselves Americans.
The USA is like the UK or Germany, federally composed of smaller units ... viz. Scotland, Saxony, Texas.
No way does Germany call itself 'Europe'; in the same way the USA has no right to call itself 'America'.
The key words are 'The United States Of ...'.
If they really wanted to, the Falklanders could alternatively call themselves 'British Americans', but my guess is that they alternatively prefer 'South Atlantic Brits'.
@81 JUJU
Aug 30th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@82 cLOHO
yes, they are British and they have only been there for 180 years.
The Argentinians have only been there (SA) for 160 years!
Sounds straight forward to me...
Aren't most things straightforward to you 86#.Like it always is.
Aug 30th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What annoys me is that people from the USA think and speak as if they are the only ones allowed to call themselves Americans.
Aug 30th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The minutia that annoys you, you must be a highstrung individual. In everyday life, do Mexicans refer to themselves as Mexicans or Americans? Do Chileans refer to themselves as Chileans or Americans? When asked where do you come from.........your response is Europe or Italy? In a broad sense we can always say we are Western Hemispherians.....or better yet, Earthlings as we all are. The fact of the matter is the we all refer to ourselves as the nation we reside in..........lest you as this annoys you.
@87 puppet
Aug 30th, 2012 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very weak comment.
At least I'm not the lapdog that barks and begs every time CFK the do
Dominatrix cracks her riding crop. :-)
Juba, you have to lay off the firewater dude. Would an independent Falklands be ok with you?
Aug 31st, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@88
Aug 31st, 2012 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, you are estadounidenses in Spanish, Americans in English, US-Amerikaner in German.
It was, I believe, Gabriel García Márquez who originally noted that the United States is the only country in the world without a name. Anyone from the Americas is an American. Argentines, Falklanders, Clileans and the populations of all the countries in the Americas are just as American as US citizens.
Aug 31st, 2012 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The fact of the matter is the we all refer to ourselves as the nation we reside in..........lest you as this annoys you.” Poppy #88.
Aug 31st, 2012 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fine, let the US inhabitants start using their own name ...
and, if they haven't got one (#92), they should stop using everybody else's continental name as if they registered and owned the 'domain'.
TTT's 'US-American' works for me.
Yanqui works for me. Didn't their men call themselves that?
Aug 31st, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yuleno @ 94
Aug 31st, 2012 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you go to the south of the United States and call the local inhabitants Yankees, they will be more than a little upset. Even more so than Argentines from Córdoba, for example, when they're called “Porteños”.
Well let's just call them 'us' and they can call themselves ' the disciples'.
Aug 31st, 2012 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bet they won't like that,it doesn't gel with their prediction to control all of south America and north America does it
BTW just heard that Romney said Americans want jobs and lots of jobs,but what they really want is a salary that provides for them and their families.But not like Romney's father who gave his wife a rose each day and said'now get up and do the housework'.Of course times were different then.
lol educate yourself to the American political process of getting elected lol
Aug 31st, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA prefers not to extradite him, question him, or put him on trial.
Aug 31st, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sweden does want to 'ask him some questions', but only in Sweden.
The only 'law' we are sure that this foreigner has broken is the English bail 'law'.
England could deport him to his home country, Australia, as an unwelcome alien .. as soon as Ecuador revises its 'diplomatic asylum' for this non-diplomat.
Can somebody PLEASE ask the US authorities why they are refusing to progress a case against Assange for the Wikileaks anti-security blitz on the USA.
Surely it must be against SOME US laws, for it was a MASSIVE stealing and world-wide dissemination of US secret communications.
I seldon see it in the news. geoff, can't you ask the USA authorities, it's obviously irking you that they are not letting you in on their agenda. Perhaps something like the espionage act, ask the US Attorney General. No on in the US even cares about him. He makes international news but very little here. I am sure things will work out for you friend that way they are destined to be.
Aug 31st, 2012 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How wonderful it is that poppy knows nobody in the USA is bothered about 'Assange' 'wikileaks', surely he must also know whether they would request extradition from Sweden and that he wouldn't be legally executed.
Aug 31st, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does also know what color roses Romney's dad used to give his mum,and how many years it will take to create 12m worthwhile jobs.
Isn't it funny how everyone hates the US so much but people are literally dying to get in there. I came from Argentina last may to Atlanta and the plane was full of Argentines, smiling and counting their American dollars, if people hated the country so much it would be very easy to stay away. I have always lived under 100km from the US, pre-911 it was virtually unguarded, that relationship was spoiled by outsiders, not by a mistrust for each other.
Aug 31st, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree Zhivago....9/11 changed us. Yuleno, you seem to think the things that matter to people outside the USA matter to us inside the USA. As for Romney, he was my Governor and I am not a fan, but then Obama has not knocked my socks off with certain actions either.
Sep 01st, 2012 - 01:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whats a worthwhile jobs....an Accountant making 90k? a nurse making 80k.....an electrician making 60k? what do you define as worthwhile?
So where is you least liked place in the USA?
Hi Poppy.
Sep 01st, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess it will just quietly go away and people will accept that it happened and eventually forget both it and the young GI that will be incarcerated for many, many years.
It must really hurt the US to know that 'one of their own' released to the world the evil machinations of their own government.
I imagine that it will only become an issue again when Assange publishes, on Wikileaks, the US's secret reasons for not bringing him to trial.
of course such brilliant perception. you win
Sep 01st, 2012 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poppy poppy so many question,why.( no question mark).
Sep 01st, 2012 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All the people of the USA do not think the same.There are some lovely people there who care about the planet,care about people outside the USA,and think different to you.The Ojibway belong in the USA and Canada.But of course those in the USA are forced to be Americans.There are African people in the USA that must be known as American.Do you get the picture or are you beyond reach.
You need to think about what American means in a multicultural world.Go and fight for your illusionary America and I don't know what is a worthwhile job but what do you think it is,30k in mcdonald's and Staples.
I can see why Argentinas spurious claim to the Falkland Islands would make them empathise with a fellow alleged rapist. Does anyone else see the connection? Subtle play on both there I thought. He is alleged to have raped two women, they want to rape a nation!
Sep 01st, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you can't see the multi cultural sub groups in the USA, you've never been to the USA. Perhaps like 6 weeks ago you and guzz referred to Americans, north that is, as a nation of mutts and mongrols because of the diversity of the USA. I really never know what points you try to make as they seem very elusive and fluid is one tries to connect one article thread to another.
Sep 01st, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you actually believe that I think all people in the USA think me? I respect the individual thought of everyone and did my share to insure it continues.
And a worthwhile job, to me is one that enables oneself to total support themselves. And to boot, actually likes it.
Castro says there's a connection betwixt the falklands and Assange. She is so right, each involves a juvenile grandstanding latam country with a bad attitude to Britain. Britain is clear and measured in dealing with these youngsters.
Sep 02nd, 2012 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Castro is two faced. In concert with OAS, they all know Uk made no such threats since their combined statement made no mention, yet here she is on her own saying the very opposite.
The UN does not urge the UK to talk with Argentina, it says talk if you want to talk. Castro statement is so full of holes.
just heard that the founder of THE PIRATE BAY has been arrested in Cambodia and is to be sent to Sweden. What is it with Sweden that is
Sep 02nd, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0attacking free speech and free movement of files and people??!!
@109 AS
Sep 02nd, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Freedom to copy other people's hardwork and Warg was a big player in this field. It's a crime in the uk and most places including Sweden. Sweden is a paragon of free speech and these events are co-incidental.
107# poppy
Sep 02nd, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At no time have I called anyone mutts and mongrols.
Please indicate where you can show this to be true.
Assange has nothing to do with The Falklands ...
Sep 03rd, 2012 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol ... The Falklands are British, always will be, now and forever ...
No-one is South America can take them away from us, not even collectively ...
:) The Falklands are British, now and forever ...
:P ... The Falklands are British, now and forever ...
;) ... The Falklands are British, now and forever ...
:PP ... The Falklands are British, now and forever ...
:PPP ... The Falklands are British, now and forever ...
@108
Sep 03rd, 2012 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also funny isn't it that every UN resolution requesting (not ordering) UK and Argentina to talk includes;
“the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples”
Which in anyone's language does not mean handing over to another colonial power.
UK “arrogance” was a matter of upholding the law and complying with international agreements.
Sep 04th, 2012 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here's an instance of true arrogance: Today's Uruguayan national daily El País stated that Jordi Timerman, daughter of the Argentine Foreign Minister, is to get married in March in the former fishing village, now millionaires' playground, of José Ignacio, not far from Punta del Este. Fashionable lass! This at a time when ordinary Argentines are not allowed to purchase foreign currency to spend abroad, and their international credit card purchases are subject to a 15% surcharge. I wonder how Mr Timerman is going to pay for the party? Presumably the spirits, wine and caviar will be “diplomatic privilege”.
I am going to listen to lectures from Argentina about extradition and assylum, they know what they are talking about - this is the nation that welcomed and protected Mengele.
Sep 04th, 2012 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0@115
Sep 05th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0And Eichmann, until Mossad clandestinely spirited him away to face trial .
I find it amusing that the Argentines call the UK arrogant.
The Argentines need to deploy a few mirrors in their country.
Yuleno when I first started typing here, maybe two months ago. I could be mistaken as I was certain it was you, guzz and pirate hunter and ttt. But as I said, I could be wrong.
Sep 05th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, backing up, if you fail to see diversity in the USA and acceptance of if, you have never been to the USA.
You could be wrong poppy? Is that a retraction.
Sep 05th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you been to China since 1978.
Not a retraction.....a qualification. What does China have to do here?
Sep 05th, 2012 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So why don't you retract the accusation Capt Poppy.After all it was a false accusation.
Sep 05th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China since 1978?When Deng became chairman.
@120 Yuleno
Sep 05th, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0China:
1 billion slaves living under a totalitarian government, earning subsistance wages.
Are you from China?
Really troy,you know that do you.
Sep 05th, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will retract it when I am sure that it is false. Great great Deng the Central Committee.......but why do I care and what is the relevance, you digress well too often.
Sep 05th, 2012 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@122 Yule log
Sep 06th, 2012 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0You like dictatorships - tell us the “real” story.
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