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Busy international agenda for Falkland Islands lawmakers
Members of the Falkland Islands Legislative Assembly Gavin Short and Sharon Halford are currently attending the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association Plenary and Small Countries Conference in Sri Lanka. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWouldn`t it be nice to to see either Sharon or Gavin having a televised Falkland Island debate with Christina on television ? I don`t suppose it will ever happen.
Sep 15th, 2012 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly what they need to do, get their message across to the world at every opportunity.
Sep 15th, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0No way for the Argy gov to counter this.
1 brucey-babe
Sep 15th, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK wouldn't have the guts.
Oh! i thought that the picture was taking from a shelter in La Matanza Shantytown...
Sep 15th, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've been in a fair share of different countries' head of government offices over the years and my experience is that the more broke, corrupt or dependent on the rest of the world for bailouts a country is the more ostentatious their house of parliament or prime minister's or premier's offices are (relatively). The elected members and hangers on all drive around in ridiculously big flash cars also.
Sep 15th, 2012 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In fairness to Argentina you can't really accuse them of this given that horrendous looking pink place in the middle of BA. It looks like the paint's been put on by blind people and there's all different shades mixed throughout it.
Gilbert House is a very modest and historic building on the harbour front in Stanley. Elected members all drive themselves around in their own cars and they just get on with it. It works well. We have nothing to prove.
I was sitting in the head of a poor country's office one day listening to the said person dribbling complete bullshit to me about how he was going to sort out a problem they had. The only thing keeping me from falling asleep was looking around at all of the marble, polished timber and leather furniture. I remembered all of the hopeless, jobless, ill looking, dirty people we drove past in the street to get to the meeting and it nearly made me sick.
@ 4 Dunni-Burger
Sep 15th, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Up to your old tricks of exaggerating everything again I see.
How can any reasonable person compare a stone built office block with a weatherproof corrugated roof located on the lovely Falkland Islands (there are STILL no Malvinas) with what the poor sods of La Matanza Shantytown have to build for themselves and WHERE they have to get their drinking and bathing water from:-
”The gravest problem stems from its location next to CEAMSE; the huge rubbish dump that receives 64,000 tonnes of waste a month from the capital as well as La Matanza (the most heavily populated municipality in Buenos Aires province).
Tests have concluded the local water supply to be suitable not even for bathing; yet local people are forced to use it for drinking and cooking. A judge ordered the dump to be closed three years ago, yet society’s indifference means the people of Nicole continue to suffer the consequences of the local air and water. The area experiences higher than average rates of lupus, leukaemia and muscular dystrophy as well as other deformities. “There’s a medical post just around the corner,” says María Vivian Pacheco, 41 years old and a resident of Nicole, “but a lot of the time it’s closed, maybe due to staff shortages.”
(Source The Argentina Independent 26 September 2008)
Link:http://www.argentinaindependent.com/tag/un-techo-para-mi-pais/
AND, have you noticed how many actual shantytowns exist on the islands?
Answer: NONE
How very disappointing to see you have not really progressed from the jealous, vindictive person you were 19 months ago when I first started reading MercoPress.
6 ChrisR
Sep 15th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd also like to add that nowhere in the world have I ever tasted nicer tap water than what we get in Stanley.
Don't get too excited Paicey!
7 Joe Bloggs
Sep 15th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have to say that the water in Uruguay is very good and totally safe as long as it comes out of an OSE system (not the wells that exist deep in the country, they could be good but who knows).
8 ChrisR
Sep 15th, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's good to know. I'll bear it in mind next time I'm there. Because I'm usually only there a few nights I always do the bottled water only thing. I tend not to take the risk on tap water overseas unless I'm there for long periods of time. Nothing worse than travelling with an upset stomach and even different mineral levels in otherwise perfectly clean water can cause problems.
DannyBurger- there is a saying for fancy dressed folk with posh cars and houses - and no manners nor polite behaviour:
Sep 15th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“All fur-coat and no knickers”
It basically sums up many things Argentine.
FALKLANDS MLAs REPORT SUCCESSFUL LATIN AMERICAN TRIP
Sep 15th, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklandnews.com/public/story.cfm?get=6360&source=3
Shhh .... heard about Cuba supporting the Islanders :-)
Sep 16th, 2012 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/falklands-at-the-parlamericas-ix-general-assembly/
12 Lord Ton: CFK won't be happy with Raul Castro for that, but great that ParleAmericas invite to Falklands went from Canada, extending the recent examples of OAS cooperation Falkland Islands - Canada.
Sep 16th, 2012 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Canada doesn't have ulterior motives for supporting Falkland Islands community, but there are some convergences:
- Canadian companies involved in offshore oil exploration of Falklands,
- French OCts such as St Pierre et Miquelon, Guyane Française are Outermost Regions - 100% French but Falkland Islands demography, like Canada is a mixture - not exactly British, not exactly Latin American.
Hope that Falkland Islands-Canada cooperation can grow and prosper, although each is at opposite ends of the Americas!
“Falklands at the ParlAmericas IX General Assembly”:
falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/falklands-at-the-parlamericas-ix-general-assembly/
The failed Argentine attempt to get the Islanders removed shows how scared they are of the Falkland Islanders relating their side of the story free from doctored Argentine proganda.
Sep 16th, 2012 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bet the Argentines are regretting the increased publicisation of the Falklands as the world now gets to see both sides, due to the Argentines beligerent attitude being a catalyst for more MLA's to speak out.
Another brick in the wall removed.
This is good news. The MLA's from the Falklands are running rings around the Argentinians.
Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0They, a small community, are showing the world how diplomacy should work. You don't need to shout and bang your fist on the table, you just need to present a reasoned, well thoughtout argument.
By comparison Argentine diplomacy looks amateurish and laughable.
Despite its shouting, Argentina can not drown out the voices of the Falkland Islanders. Despite its threatening and intimidating attitude it cannot stop the Islanders telling the world the truth, and they cannot stop the world taking note.
Well done Falkland Islands Government, keep up the good work.
I was talking to a German friend who had recently returned from Uruguay, she'd initially know nothing about the islands until she heard all the ranting from CFK on Uruguayan TV. As a strictly neutral person she just thought CFK was a woman obsessed, didn't see the point in her ranting, and thought they should just let the islanders be. Maybe Argentina should've sheltered Goebbels after the war too because their propaganda clearly isn't working.
Sep 16th, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 012 Lord Ton
Sep 16th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cuba?????helping the intruders in a American parlament doing what?? Show proofs if you can.
Southamerica for southamericans.
The way I heard it - Cuba was told that their attendance was in doubt if they objected to the Falklanders !
Sep 16th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MercoPress.
Sep 16th, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It`s time these comments were given `tick boxes` so readers can agree / disagree with fellow readers.
Well, well Mister Pinocchio Lord Ton again with no proofs and publicating lies
Sep 16th, 2012 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and lies like MP
www.derf.com.ar/noticias.asp?cod_des509705&ID_seccion=33&fecemi=16/09/2012&Titular=malvinas-diputados-frustraron-una-maniobra-inglesa-en-foro-hemisferico.html
Ecuatorians, cubans, salvadorians, colombians, chileans supporting Arg. Arg said that Arg would abandonan the forum if these intruders where part of it, and the majority of nations said they would accompany Arg.
And second, watch the tricky attitude, it seems the britain was invited to be observers. It was accepted british observes, but instead of sending the ones of mainland britain they send these brits living in a territory in dispute in south atlantic, and the british embassy told them to say “why dont you present yourselves as members of Fickling Assembly???” And they make a little of tension, nothing we dont know how to resolve.
20 malen
Sep 16th, 2012 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“And they make a little of tension, nothing we dont know how to resolve”
Yes, TMBOA had brown stuff running down her legs. That will 'solve it'.
I bet her maid can't wait for another 'victory', she just loves washing the shit out of her mistresses knickers!
Ha, ha, ha.
@20 Perhaps it would help us all if someone who was actually there told this forum exactly what happened.
Sep 16th, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20 malen
Sep 16th, 2012 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So how do you explain the facts that they were there, and nobody walked out not even Argentina.
Certainly be there again next year.
SouthAtlantic for SouthAtlantans (British to you)
Keep SAmericans in SAmerica
little pug
Sep 16th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they wanted to participate as members of the asembly, but they werent allow to do that, thats why they were observers. Watch in google diputados frustaron una maniobra inglesa por Malvinas and read it. See the tricky way, but didint function........Its an alert for Southamericans, and once again there was unity to show you cant do what you want in our region.
The only thing you are is a BOT, you are a british overseas territory occupying an argentine land by force since 1833 and still using the force to stay there and with an illegal use of resources, we dont recoignize you, it is in dispute; andhad nothing to do with this rich and friendly and peaceful region. South atlantic is not british. Is of the countries that share that sea at the south, not British I see.
@24. Malen.
Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Instead of spouting the crap they teach you in kindergarten check out the true history of the Falkland Islands. Now, because you`re incapable of digesting to much input between your ears, listen up. You cannot check the true facts in Argentina as Pissy-Chrissy had a hissy and had all the true facts removed to give her claim impetus, so, you must go further afield to gain the relevant info., i.e. The British Library. Or, find a bent librarian somewhere in Argentina who knows where Christina has it hidden. (Malen, pronoun, usually found to have I.Q. measured on the Richter scale, i.e. somewhere between 1 and 7.5. )
“Southamerica for southamericans.”
Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indigenous South Americans or European colonists calling themselves “South Americans”?
“Is of the countries that share that sea at the south, not British I see.”
Correct... not British but Falklands Islanders.
Possession is nine tenths of the Law as all indigenous South Americans know from their hundreds of years of brutal oppression by Europeans.
IF, of course, they ever teach history prior to 1833 in your neck of the woods...sometimes it doesnt look as though anybody does.
;-0
Doesn't Britain handle the Islands' affairs? Btw doesn't a“Small Countries Conference” in Sri Lanka a bit of a sick joke?!
Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#1 “Wouldn`t it be nice to to see either Sharon or Gavin having a televised Falkland Island debate with Christina on television ?”
It would, she'd win =)
#27
Sep 16th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good idea ! CFK having to answer questions - live. No chance to give one of her rambling monologues,
I would rather see her being interviewed by Kirsti Wark - remember what she did to Thatcher ?
Jeremy Paxman would be another choice.
They could both rip her to shred without breaking sweat !
@28
Sep 16th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She does not do question time.
Ambar..........yes southamericans....there are no here europeans claiming european sovereignity over Ciudadela, for ex.........
Sep 17th, 2012 - 12:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27 B_S_K
Sep 17th, 2012 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not half as much of a joke when Scotland votes to piss off from the Union AND there should be a referendum for England and Wales before then asking if WE want to keep them.
Then you will find that 5.2 million Scots will have a very much worse living standard than 2,500 Falkland Islanders (there are STILL no Malvinas). They work for a living for a start unlike your mates.
#31
Sep 17th, 2012 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here we go again ! A certain type of “English ”arrogance which surfaces from time to time.
I was 10 years old before I found out that Britain/England were actually two different countries. The English keep referring to England when they mean Britain. Wouldn't you be rather pissed off to keep hearing this again and again if it was Scotland/Britain.
Where is your evidence for this done deed on a vote yet to take place.- the Daily Mail ?
The latest poll released today gives a figure of 30% for independence. hardly a majority !
For the rest of the UK, WOGS begin south of Watford.
If you wish to debate the subject further, arrange for Mercopress to raise it as a separate topic.
Clyd - you appear to be British - but then one we could do without!
Sep 17th, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't Clyd an ape in a 1970's movie ??
Yeah but a very cool ape, right turn Clyde
Sep 17th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If ParlAmericas vision includes being “committed to improving and enhancing national and hemispheric democratic processes”, one wonders what Cuban membership does for Cubans who want democracy for Cuba?
Sep 17th, 2012 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting that the ParlAmericas membership also doesn't include other EU-member Overseas Territories, including French Guiana, Netherlands Antilles, St Pierre et Miquelon, Aruba, etc. (http://www.parlamericas.org/en/about/members.aspx)
However, great to see that Falkland Islands were there and had an opportunity to some networking.
“Falklands’ delegates at the Parlamericas assembly in Panama as invited observers”:
http://www.parlamericas.org/en/about/members.aspx)
32 Clyde15
Sep 17th, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sorry if I have offended you but I was referring to Blind_Scottie_Kirchnerist who (he claims) is from the Old Scottish Labour Party, aka The Communists who did more than any other organisation to destroy the industrial centres in Scotland.
One of my friends who owned a specialist alloy metals foundry had his business targeted by these idiots and eventually had to close it. As he said, you just can't help the Scots when you are English.
This is so true. When I, via my management team, had responsibility for the nationwide servicing of the gas appliances that my company manufactured we had it made quite clear to us by Scottish Gas (part of BG) that they could not allow English technicians into domestic premises, it just gave them problems with their customers.
Plus, I have to say, that many of the Scots I know still use the term sassenachs in a disparaging way.
@24 malen
Sep 17th, 2012 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Little Pug – Lol, that’s actually quite funny, but I doubt you understand why.
This is not about the British or Islanders trying to do anything in S America, the is about what Argentines are trying to do in the S. Atlantic.
Argentina tried to seize the territory from the British by force in 1832, the British recovered it in 1833.
British territory since long before Argentina ever existed.
These are the facts of history, in the rest of the world anyway.
Whether you recognize us or not is irrelevant to us, just as long as you do it from your side of the border.
The S. Atlantic no more belongs to Argentina, than the Caribbean belongs to Venezuela (although El Chavo would love it to).
@32 Clyde15
Years ago the English used England and Britain interchangeably, but not these days.
ChrisR has got a point though, people in Scotland are asked about changes in the fundamental nature of the relationship between the two countries, whereas people in England are not.
Not to mention English matters, English votes. Fair play to the SNP on that score.
Personally I have no problem with Porridge Wogs (Oatmeal Savages if you prefer), until I meet one living in England who never stops telling me how wonderful everything is up there, except why he’s living amongst old enemy.
However most are not like this, in my experience.
#33
Sep 17th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes-an orangutan and the star of the show !! Also, the only one with brains !
As to “one we could do without” sorry but Britain is stuck with me until I pop my clogs. I reckon that, at 70, I have been here longer than you, wherever you are.
I am not anti-English ,although I admit that some of my countrymen are.
However, I have also found that many English are anti-Scottish - as can be seen from the above.
I worked in Birmingham for a short time in 1961 and found, to my surprise, that the Welsh were disliked.
Later on, in London, I discovered that the Irish were despised by many people - no dogs, no blacks and no Irish were common signs on boarding houses.
The word Sassenach in Gaelic means lowlander and was used by the Highlanders to denote the Scots in the central belt of Scotland.
Yes, it can be a derogatory term. Highlanders from any region in the world, seem to feel superior to lowlanders. As there are so many Scots of Irish descent, maybe this is a race memory of the famine, or, in Scotland, by the still remembered effects of the clearances of huge tracts of Scotland by English landlords for sheep, while the population were shipped out to the colonies to fend for themselves.
Your companies use of English electricians may have been rejected as in an area of high unemployment it would have smacked of bringing in workers from outwith the area thereby denying locals the chance of employment. Only a thought.
As a footnote, when abroad I answer to British as per my passport.
When asked if English, I reply I am Scottish.
Without exception, I have been made more welcome than if I was English.
This has been my experience in South Africa, New Zealand, India, West Indies, Fiji,Greece, Spain and especially France.
Of course, it could be due to my innate charm !
My line about WOGS was spoken by English friends from Tyneside and Merseyside many years ago. That was their reply to the way they felt treated by the Southerners.
not me
“the clearances of huge tracts of Scotland by English landlords for sheep”
Sep 17th, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Lairds could not be described as English.
@All Brits above.
Sep 17th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People this is why the union is under threat because we seem to argue amongst our selves about trivial shit. @ 33 Lord Ton what do you mean “but then one we could do without!” ?
Seems the anti-Argentina coalition is cracking by itself because the English call Scottish Apes, the Welsh Sheep and the Irish and blacks compared with dogs.
Sep 17th, 2012 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What I didn’t understand is why the English were clearing Welsh from Scotland...
Any help?
@27
Sep 18th, 2012 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”#1 “Wouldn`t it be nice to to see either Sharon or Gavin having a televised Falkland Island debate with Christina on television ?”
It would, she'd win =)”
No she would not win. Exactly the reason why she refuses to meet Islanders is that she knows they are right, andf she is terrified of them getting publicity to trash Argentina's corrupted version of history and Argentina's colonialist ambitions.
Why someone will spend costly TV minutes on a debate that none is interested in?
Sep 19th, 2012 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is noting to debate I guess.
Or may be yes... When are living from the Islands?
@43
Sep 19th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct the Argentines have nothing to debate.
They lost the argument a long time ago.................
CFK would loose it as she only rules by press conference like Bambi Blair.
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