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The Royal Navy attack submarine, “HMS Ambush” ready for sea trials
In the next few days, the second of the Royal Navy’s Astute Class attack submarine, “HMS Ambush” will leave the BAE Systems shipyard in Barrow-in-Furness in Cumbria, where she was built, and sail to Her Majesty's Naval Base Clyde in Scotland. Read full article
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Sep 15th, 2012 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Await for duny burgers standard post
Sep 15th, 2012 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0You would of thought the uk deep in recession couldn't afford this with people starving etc etc etc
looks great doesn't it , and we are getting 8 of these babies...need more to counter Rgs two mighty 37 year old rusting hulks awaiting a nuke reactor..
Ssshhh....Don't tell anyone , but I have it on good authority that the crew are on a Spanish language course at Beaconsfield while the sub's being re-fitted .
Sep 15th, 2012 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0I will have to keep an eye out for her as she sails up the Clyde to Faslane
Sep 15th, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Very impressive. This might quieten/overawe the excitable malvinistas!
Sep 15th, 2012 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 02 Santa Fe
Sep 15th, 2012 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0She sure does look great. I love this quote as well:-
“It is now time to start putting Ambush through her paces on sea trials and prove that this amazing piece of equipment is ready for operations.”
and then on to who knows where........ I mean, you never know where she might pop up right?
Whats even more impressive is the sonar being able to detect ships leaving new york's harbour, whilst the sub is still in the english channel.
Sep 15th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think argentina will be sending any navy ships out of port toward the falkland waters for a while with either Astute or Ambush about lol.
It can even pick -up the sound of Christina`s toilet flushing ! Err, she has got a toilet has she ?
Sep 15th, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@8 BB
Sep 15th, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I think so....and using it more frequently as her economy deteriorates and her popular support crumbles!
@8 Don't know but you wouldn't need very sophisticated technology to hear her shit herself... the middle class just made her do that and it was heard around the world
Sep 15th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Sep 15th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@10
Top marks !
1 damian (#)
Sep 15th, 2012 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Coming to an island near you shortly”
Would that be some Scottish rocks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Regw-AhXI
12... One of your Argentine subs had a mishap in south georgia?...Santa Fe destroyed by UK forces ,RG submarine envy JAJAJAJAAA dive dive dive
Sep 15th, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 013 Who cares.
Sep 15th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 014 Marcos Alejandro
Sep 15th, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Who cares?”
You do for a start and TMBOA certainly cares because she knows that saying is easily overpowered by 'Who dares wins' the motto of the SAS.
You bunch of cowards don't have prayer against these boys as they proved when they walked through AG to get to Chile during the last disaster for AG. AND not one AG 'soldier' (I use that term completely irreverently) detected them!!!!
Thyssen 1700s! What a load of junk. Managed to get the torpedoes correctly wired yet? Do they still run - oh! you don't test them do you?
Ha, ha, ha to the power google.
14... I imagine the crew of the Santa Fe, and the humiliated Argentine Submarine Service Glug Glug Glug...jajajajajaja
Sep 15th, 2012 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You guys will LOVE this
Sep 15th, 2012 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/9542456/Argentina-seeks-UK-funds-for-expropriated-oil-group-YPF.html
“Argentina seeks UK funds for expropriated oil group YPF” - you know things have gone to shit if they have to turn to us for money!
JP Morgan Chase will be getting the only money, and that is for 'organizing the trip' aka conning all the oil companies into going along.
Sep 15th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope they got their money put into an escrow.
As one poster put on the DT:'I wouldn't give them Jack Shit.
Another retorted: 'I don't have Jack Shit after Gordon Brown had it all'
I know the feeling.
the envy show themselves, again.
Sep 15th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0aslong as you just talk talk, you have nothing to worry about.
still,
as long as you dont get ambushed,
you have nothing to complain about .lol
Virginia class equivelant....not bad...but nothing will ever rival the US Seawolf class.
Sep 15th, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@20
Sep 16th, 2012 - 07:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0That test is only ever applied in real combat, we may get to see the Astute class in action in Cristina's last and desparate hours. We have what we need down there to adequately protect our people in advance of the Supercarriers coming on line.
HMS Ambush. A very apt name for a submarine considering that they tend to use ambush tactics. :0D
Sep 16th, 2012 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 21, lol, you'd never need the Astute class against Argentina. You could dust off your old 1980's equipment that's been sitting in a scrap metal yard for the past 20 years and still utterly pwn Argentina without taking any major losses.
Sep 16th, 2012 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@20 Actually American naval commanders went on board and said that it was beyond anything they had ever seen before. One thing Britain does really really well is submarines.
Sep 16th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17
Sep 16th, 2012 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They seriously think that the UK is going to fund YPF????
Mind you if UK does and actually gets money out of Argentina, bit of a climbdown isn't it (ie we don't need Britain and Western investment-smell the coffeee time).
Returning to the post-another piece to the UK's aparrently declining navy. Chav(ez) has gone a bit quiet over sending the V Navy down South to help CFK steal the Falklands.
HEY MALVINISTAS-Where are these lawsuits against the oil firms exploring for oil around the Falkland Islands?
@12
Where's your submarines then? We only needed a tiny helicopter launched missile to ping the Sante Fe?
Fancy another pop dop you?
Perhaps we could see you Marcos riding on the conning tower of one of those scrapyard challenge subs, with that joke flag of yours with a smiley sun waving bravely in the South Atlantic winds accompanied by Nazi marching songs blaring crap about the motherland, and how everyone in Argentina has shiny biceps and wishes to kiss the Malvinas (that fictitous dream).
Then someone in Astute or Ambush gets bored with the crap unconvincing propaganda CFK and her Elephant Seal sonblare outand decides to wave goodbye.
Take a good lifeboat and maybe you will get picked up by a prince in a nice yellow helicopter.
@24
Sep 16th, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very, very few US naval commanders have ever been aboard a Seawolf, there are very few of them, and they're only for the highest echelons of top secret security clearances :P
According to interest,
Sep 16th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some Americans thought yours were the best in the world,
Until the astute was seen, in person and firing its load,
The astute is considered the best in the world,
But as the USA and the brits are unlikely to go against each other,
Both, will, in time see just how good they are,
The case now is, who will be first to prove it.
The Americans in the gulf, or the brits in the south Atlantic.
Taking bets now..lol.
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lol, according to whom? what article? all articles only say best in British Navy
Sep 16th, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why,
Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the experts,
didnt you know, the experts know everything,
the best way to prove it, is to use it,
and very soon , someone will.
still,
was yours a purley America invention,??
Do we really need this crap when we're cutting everything else?!
Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seawolf Class
Sep 16th, 2012 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seawolf-class submarines - the first new top-to-bottom attack submarine design since the early 1960s - are the fastest, quietest, most heavily armed undersea vessels in the world.
http://www.gdeb.com/about/product/seawolf/
mmmmmmmmmm
http://www.gdeb.com/about/product/seawolf/
Clearly the article is also bias, UK New paper an all same as this.
The two subs are virtically identical in technology an capabilities both have only 1 known advantage over each other, Astute got more torpedos tube giving it greater fire power under water, 20% percent more, while the Virginia can hit more land targets. Personally I take the Astute any time simply because crew are better trained.
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Astute Class vs. Virginia Class
http://www.gdeb.com/about/product/seawolf/
[The truth is, who cares,
As we are on the same side, and THAT makes US, unbeatable,
Does it not,
[yankybrit] you know it makes sense .lol.
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Still,
As long as the argentines don’t send out their latest rowing boats, [with paddles]
Then we will all be safe.
lolololol
.BK
stop crying will you,
if you dont like it, go to her, and swear your devotion,
and she will promply dump you .......
#30
Sep 16th, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0YES squared . If we are going to have a navy then we need ships.
lol, oh I agree with you that we're on the same side, and we're gonna decimate Iran, and Argentina will decimate itself. I'm just sayin, I think you're comparing Virginia and Astute classes. While the Seawolf has more tubes, more total missiles, and greater stealth capabilities.......but then we only made 3 of them, because they were absurdly expensive, and no more will ever be made. It's a subhunter, meant to sneak up on and destroy Soviet Union's best, which was one thing the Soviet Union did very well (subs).
Sep 17th, 2012 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0@30 - BK
Sep 17th, 2012 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0The money had already been spent. What should the government have done? Stopped half way through, thus wasting all the money already spent? Made all those shipbuilders in Scotland unemployed? Would that have helped the economy?
You are a tit.
In regards to whether Astute of Seawolf is better, no doubt the US and UK will be involved in exercises and war games against each other at some point in the future. They do it every few years, I understand.
But having Gucci kit is only part of whether someone will win or lose. It the tactics employed by the boat commanders that will be the decisive factor in any engagement.
I mean, what's the point of having Gucci equipment if you put someone in charge who is very inexperienced? Not that this would happen with the US and UK. Both countries train their boat crews and their commanders to the highest levels.
33
Sep 17th, 2012 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0you may well be correct.
Seawolf designed in the 1980's and became active in the 1995. So propulsion is based on 1980's technology and the design is based on 1980's (or early 1990's if original design was amended) design technology. Yes their systems will have been updated but you can only update to a certain point. By the way, isn't the seawolf class due to be decommissioned in roughtly 10 years!
Sep 17th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Then you have Astute Class, designed in the late 2000's launched in 2007 and first in service in 2010. So has modern technology and propulsion systems and modern design and modern onboard computer/sensor systems. Its a lot quiter than the seawolf also, so the seawolf class would not know its there untill it was too late anyway, let despite the seawolf being designed to be quiet it is not as quiet as the astute, due to the astutes modern high tech propulsion and propeller design. So the astute would be able to pickup the seawolf from miles away on its high tech soner that is capable of picking up ships leaving new york harbour whilst the astute class sub is still in the english channel. In fact the astute has been said to make less noise than a baby dolphin, making it undetectable to any other sub of any nation in service today. The Astute has the Thales 2076 soner system which BAE claims the 2076 represents a “step change” over previous sonars and is the world's most advanced and effective sonar system. It is said to have 13,000 hydrophones, many times the number fitted in previous Royal Navy systems and more than any other submarine sonar in the world.
So my money is firmly on the Astute firmly kicking the seawolf class subs arse in war excercises.
They are both top class subs. In any major hostile situation they would both work to their strengths.
Sep 17th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry Teaboy2, I have to disagree with you, you're basing this off opinion. You have no factual evidence that the Astute is quieter. The Seawolf is quieter doing 25 knots than the Los Angeles at idle. It's built to be impossible to detect even at speeds over 20 knots.
Sep 17th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But we can agree to disagree, and luckily they'll never go to war against eachother, but rather as a team against jealous third world countries.
On the development of the Astute Class:
Sep 17th, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“BAE and the Ministry of Defence reached an agreement in February 2003 whereby they would invest £250 million and £430 million respectively to address the programme's difficulties.[7]
A major element of this was the enlisting of advice and expertise from General Dynamics Electric Boat.[35] The MoD also signed a design and production drawing work contract through the U.S. Navy which ran from 2004 to 2007.[36]”
So BAE needed General Dynamics' help (one of the companies that build SeaWolf), and used US Navy help too.
And US often nowadays uses BAE help too.
Another pirate ship to join rest of the fleet.
Sep 17th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@40 - ProRG_faker/SussieUS
Sep 17th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You sound scared. Just think of all the Imperialist Colonial Argentine Naval vessels it could sink, should Argentina be foolish enough to try and invade and oppress the peaceful people of the Falklands.
Last time all it took was for 1 Argentine ship to be sunk by a British sub and the rest of the imperialist Argentine navy ran away like cowards. The Astute class sub is so stealthy that half the Argentine navy could be sunk before they even knew it was there.
Poor ProRG_faker/Sussie - who loves Argentina so much more now that she doesn't have to live there and suffer the privations like true and loyal Argentine citizens.
40....Submarine envy jajajajajaja
Sep 17th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dont you wish you had something to be proud of, accept maximos donut eating world record
40 poor argies,
Sep 17th, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0come on lads, give em some credit,
they do have modern rowing boats.
“40....Submarine envy jajajajajaja
Sep 17th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0dont you wish you had something to be proud of, accept maximos donut eating world record”
I do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_class_submarine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Navy#Current_fleet
Sep 17th, 2012 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is what naval MUSEUMS look like in UK/USA. In the USA, private owners can, and do, buy these relics for their own personal collections. There are probly private “navies” in the US more ample than Argentina's national Navy.
44... Who is talking about the US sub fleet its miles bigger and better equipped than the uk. the Astute class is a very capable sub see comments and links above
Sep 17th, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh I see your pretend US persona jajajajaja nice one troll. join the rest of the trolls that pretend to be of another nationality it's a standard trick and fools nobody.
No sign of HMS Ambush in the Clyde as yet - maybe she is too stealthy to see.
Sep 18th, 2012 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0HMS Duncan is ploughing up and down the length of the Firth of Clyde carrying out her sea trials. She will be getting a good workout as we have had westerly gales here for the last few days.
I presume she will also be carrying out her speed trials on the measured mile off Arran.
Today , at 11am, a Falcon 20 of the FRADU Unit flew low over my house and has just landed at Prestwick.
This indicates that Duncan will be testing her radar systems against aircraft and missile threats.
Should be entertaining to watch.
I have heard that the Rgs are testing their new destroyers using remote controlled planes and catapults. tehehehe only joking they dont have any new destroyers.....or remote controlled planes...or catapults
Sep 18th, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@48
Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, but they do have a 1983 Thyssen 1700 with a hole in the hull. All they want now (they think) is a nuclear kettle to put in it!
You can just see the Royal Navy quaking in their boots, for laughing!
I really don't remember the last time I had such a laugh, and for so long, with these numb-nuts who think they are the best on the planet.
LOL
Some say, [40]
Sep 18th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0used to be a top model,
mmmmmmmmmm
Airfix we belive lolol.
Dammit I wish I had first commented on this article when it first came out. Any way Ambush will make a fine addition to the fleet. Always loved the look of the Astute's theres something menacing about them.
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