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Brazil’s ‘trial of the century’ culprits point to Lula da Silva as “the chief”

Monday, September 17th 2012 - 05:43 UTC
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Former Brazilian president Lula da Silva was “the chief” of the corruption network the ruling Workers Party had organized to have sufficient votes in Congress, according to a report published in the weekly Veja, the magazine with the largest circulation in the country. Read full article

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  • GeoffWard2

    This is not news; it is not even new information.
    It is, however, true.

    It should be the damning destruction of the PT, the Workers Party,
    and the imprisonment of the erstwhile president Lula da Silva - the man with the the same desk-plate as Tony Blair ... “The buck never stops here”.

    . . . . . but this is Brasil.

    And the Mensalao, whilst it is a high level corruption of party officials, is a mere drop in the ocean compared to the nationalised (institutionalised) all-embracing corruption of every aspect of public life that has taken place throughout the reign of Lula. Will Lula's record show this?

    . . . . . . this is Brasil.

    Sep 17th, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fbear

    “ . . .but this is Brasil” Yes, this is Brasil, where the hypocritical and morally banjrupt elite pay millions to “root out” corruption within the emerging middle class, not becausd they care about honesty, but, like other social thieves throughout the world, they want to ensure their economic security and suoeriority at the expense of those they havd tried always to subjugate through the centuries. Don't worry, the truth will come out at all levels. To the elite: Be VERY careful what you wish for. If you get too pushy, some of the newly liberated classes might grant your wishes in ways ou have never imagined.

    Sep 17th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    Very well typed Fbear.

    Sep 17th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fbear

    Sorry for the typos, but I was pissed!

    Sep 18th, 2012 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DeMouraBR

    He cannot be so stupid to not know it. With the fucked up burocracy we have here it would be a relief if all the PT party were in jail.

    Sep 18th, 2012 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    But Fido Dildo! How can you say these things!

    You have never admitted the truth of any matter, even when it stares you in the face.

    Oh my!

    LOL

    Sep 18th, 2012 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Well they would say this, wouldn't they, to shift the blame, but do they have any evidence? Anyway this shouldn't hurt Dilma's PT now she's rooted out corruption surely?

    Sep 18th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Brasil's corruption is like Japanese Knotweed,
    you root it out and it keeps coming back.
    What you have to do is use systemic poison and then replant with more acceptable varieties.

    Are there, waiting in the wings, Brasilian presumptive politicians and administrators sufficiently incorrupt and incorruptible to take the country forwards to a better future?

    Sep 19th, 2012 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fbear

    DeMouraBR ; You say this as if there was no corruption before PT and that it will magically disappear if PT goes away. Dreamer that you are, don1t you relize that coruption exists as a fact of life, not just in Brasil. But ALWAYS, invetigtions of that corrpution are carried on by other corrupt people with agendas of their own.

    While tthe PT is no more - or less - piree than any other party, the undercurreent of your comments seems more driven by a resentment of the growng middle class, which will never allow itself to be put back in the box without force of dictatorship. Is this you preference?

    Sep 19th, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #8 Dilma?

    Sep 19th, 2012 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    #10
    Dilma will have to look for her 'white knights' from across the political spectrum.
    Internally, she seems prepared to entertain the thought;
    externally she presents as a Left/socialist/Chavistan with some belief in market forces.

    To my mind, *ethics and honesty* come before Left/Right politic-ing.
    The 'country that works' will evolve from the middle ground alongside the evolution of the Brasilian middle class.

    Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DeMouraBR

    #9
    I cannot follow your might intelligence. How could you possibly link my disregard towards a party with the hate against any class?
    The problem is we cannot be blind enough to defend parties in Brazl, as you are doing. Maybe you are even one of those guys PT pays to comment in internet.
    Corruption have a cure and it is education, i doubt that in developed countrys like the UK it is at the same level. PT doesn't invest in education.
    Less “state”, less burocracy, less taxes implies that the public employees, politicians and others worms would have less resources to drive to theirs pockets and again, PT showed clearly in the last 10 years in power that they do not intend to make revolutions in those areas.
    And you clearly doesn't work in an state-run enterprise like the PETROBRAS, about all high charges are occupied by the PT partisans, that was uncommon in the PSDB.
    Even the itamaraty was not able to escape the claws , as a puppet/submissive diplomat ( Antonio Patriota) was appointed as US embassor and after as minister, both charges reserved to experienced persons. Only the armed forces were able to avoid that hug, i guess they would not dare. We could discuss economics but i guess you won't be able to understand nor have the willingness.

    Sep 19th, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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