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At least 21.9% of Argentines poor, according to the Catholic University

Tuesday, September 25th 2012 - 08:11 UTC
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Poverty in Argentina is at least three times the official figure presented by the controversial government stats office, Indec, if the criteria and methodology applied by the Argentine Catholic University Social Debt Barometer are taken into account. Read full article

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  • KretinaK

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    PLEASE STOP FUCKING SPAMMING...... YOU HAVE MADE YOUR FUCKING POINT!!!!!!!!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @2 Thank you! I tried being polite about the spamming but that failed.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    No probs.... its not as if dog shit on your door step is unusual in BA....

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I was also wondering if there was a continuous protest again Buenos Aires considering the amount of dog shit EVERYWHERE and ALL THE TIME.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    I just don't understand why INDEC even bothers releasing this info. I understand that they have to release their inflation reports every now and then but this kind of stuff is so far off the page as to be a joke

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Dec 17th they need to right the INDEC figures or lose IMF, IDB, WB, G20 (probably) she is going to have a hard time making U$ debt payments next year with out that inflow...

    It will be a big blow to dear Nestor's legacy so I doubt she'll change a thing.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    You'll have visited by then yankeeboy.Its not like tomorrow is it?

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Yep want to pick me up at the airport you creepy old commie?

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @9

    LOL LOL LOL !!!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Let's compare the USA vs Argentina the direction of poverty:

    Poverty rate USA 2000 before internet bubble collapse: 11.2%
    Poverty rate in Argentina post 2001 banking crisis: 50.4%

    Poverty rate USA today: 15.6% (underreported, private estimates at 17%)
    Poverty rate Argentina: 23.5% (composite of private estimates)

    The trend is clear between recovery and decline.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Perhaps we need to live under a regime like kirchner to know how desperate kretinaK must feel.
    In other news, Galuccio just arrived in London begging for English investment in YPF, hours before ass lips tells the UN assembly that the English are evil pirates and wants the Falklands back............Timing is everything in comedy!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    11#I like how you pick your numbers.
    So what is your point.That Argentina have done so much better than the USA for its people.
    Yankeeboy,when are you flying in Superman?

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @13

    I didn't pick any numbers, those are the just the numbers, whether you like them or not. I even discarded the INDEC figure, and did a composite of numbers ranging from 17% by UBA to 31% by CEPAL.

    And the numbers are the real numbers and no one can dispute them.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    11. Sr. Goofball, we are coming out of a long recession and you are going into one. Do you think your poverty numbers will get better or worse in your next generational depression?

    13. Do communists have cars? Don't tax your feeble mind too much I will have a driver/bodyguard the whole time I am in Arg. it is already booked.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    USA poverty rates have typically ranged from 12 to 15% over that past 50 years. In the economic world it's referred to as “cycles”
    The UN pegs RGtines poverty rate at 30%, but no one in the government there counts anything, they toss weighted darts.
    Rumors abound that Tillerson cancelled on ass lips. I wonder what that does for the “Amazing magical Mystical YPF Raod Show Tour”
    Let's see.....I....christina the great , will berate England at the UN and Galuccio will beg the English, simultaneously I might add, for investment money the the London financial district.
    As Tillerson asks...“what about Repsol being reimbursed before we talk”, ass lips tells him ....“no worries, we paid them like we paid the Paris Club”

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Anses funds were stolen, BCRA funds are depleted...CFK couldn't pay anyone if she wanted to...

    They're bankrupt but they don't realize it yet.

    10/1 Peso or Patacones which will come first? By Christmas ( yes I think so)

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @17

    You had said 14/1 or Patacones by June back in March.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    When winter arrives they will need lots of money to import oil.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @19

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    How obliquitous of you, hrm... I meant oblivious.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I predicted 7/1 and it was breached just when I said it would be 7/12.

    Argentina is getting dumped from FRONTIER STATUS!! Behind MONGOLIA!!!! Where? MONGOLIA!!

    BAhahahhahaa

    A demotion to whatever classification is below frontier could be a blow to Argentina and ARGT. The ETF is down almost 14 percent year-to-date as investors have grown wary of the government's anti-free market policies.

    Read more: http://www.benzinga.com/trading-ideas/long-ideas/12/09/2939172/argentina-struggling-to-keep-frontier-status##ixzz27VdM08Tl

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Of course watch Market watch sometime. Let's see how well Galuccio does in England while ass lips is giving her speech in 34 minutes. I cancelled a meeting just to watch ass lips make a complete asshole of herself.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @21

    List of people in Argentina that care:

    1. ________________________

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    40.000.000______________________

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I bet Rg companies that would like to go public, issue stock or Int'l bonds care. I know you don't understand capital markets/economics but you can't be that stupid can you? Or maybe you can.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Now ask the working people in argentina that care. Of course you can't because you are not even argentine. I wonder if they will evict her at the hotel because of the protests in NYC lol.
    I hope the KaKa protests materializes lol

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    Stock markets are evil. And I'm a mercantilist free trader.

    I don't want that shit in my country and I'm glad it that industry has been destroyed here.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    26. You are so stupid I actually burst out laughing!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    I really don't care about stock markets. I used to. I realized they are a legal financial bycicle, what you call “ponzi” scheme.

    I think you are the moron for believing how these sharks rank your country, to satisfy some rich men, makes or breaks it. ahaha

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    11 Truth_Telling_Troll

    Yes please lets do that shall we?? on the one hand you have a president who cares about the poor and who is trying, really, really trying to do something about it.

    And then on the other you have KFC who, instead of staying at home has gone running to the UN like its some teacher in a school playground, and is about the throw a strop because they won't give her her islands back, no they won't and I don't care what anyone says they're mine and I want them back! Please Miss, MISS!!! they're not listening to me and I want them back!!!!

    Like anyone is really interested in her whinny assed opinion. If a thought went through her head, it would be the fast trip in South America.

    You were right in your comment at 23 no one gives a crap in Argentina least of all the president ( well, why should she? she was the one that put them there )

    Instead of thinking “I must do something about this” she is trying to bend them over still further so she can screw them a bit more.......

    It's a nice country you've got there in Argentina, I spent six months there last weekend...............

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    You live in a strange fantasy land. You should leave whatever back world slum you live in and get into the real world. I am sure barter is fine for paco but in the real world we want cash for our goods and services.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @30

    You fool, Argentina has had no stock market industry or bonds in over a decade, and things have not returned to the stone age have they?

    Vultures are not needed.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    21.9 % poor in Argéntina ?
    wéll...
    bétter than UK(59.1%) // US (76.3%)

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Hmm Whats Merval then...seems like that is going on most days.

    Not well though....

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @33

    It's volume is 80% lower than 10 years ago.

    Back then Argentina was 1/3 of Latin America's stock market value, and the world's biggest bond market outside Europe and the USA.

    Like that helped us.

    Since the Argentina is a blip in the bond market screen, and the stock market has evaporated. We have done better.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Toby, In every world ranking of open society, democracy, free press, free markets, etc etc etc you have moved down the list and are now near the bottom.

    CFK is comparing Argentina's default to Enron's bankruptcy...bahahahaha she is making a fool of herself.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    33 //34

    You néscient iñtérnet praters.

    The stock market volumes càn not show what the sitùations of thats coùntries.
    Argéntina has never beén havé a “” boñd markét “”.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @35

    You didn't answer the question. Was Argentina better off in 2001 when it had a large stock market and was the world's biggest emerging market in terms of bonds and liquidity, or is it better off now that is below “Mongolia”.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Toby, You are just as bad off now than you were in 2001, the worst part is you are heading into a GENERATIONAL DEPRESSION not coming out of one.
    It wasn't near as dangerous in 2001 as it is now that is for sure. It is crazy how many commando assaults are happening in BA province right now!

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @38

    You should be fucking banned from this website for saying such incredibly ignorant bs. Enough with you, what an utter liar you are. Best part is you don't care that you are a liar.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Oooh looks like I touched a nerve.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @40

    Of course you pathetic wanker, to compare 2001 when people lost their savings, poverty was rising rapidly and unemployment was 20%, and there were riots to today... only and utter fool and troll would say that. Get out of here now.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Wasn't there mass protest last week and another one scheduled for next week?
    Has savings increased, hmm not according to the Bank's balance sheets, poverty would be shown to be rising rapidly if the stats were correct..

    Lost savings, like lost Anses savings? Like that? Or are you talking about the clamp so people must save in the worst performing currency in the world? Like that? Isn't that about the same as in 2001? U$ for Pesos now it's just pesos...don't really see the difference.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yankee I watched ass lips kirchner. I heard better words come out of real ass lips. She bragged about paying out more than Enron.....can you believe that! Hardly 2 or 3 minutes on the Falklands, would be awkward with galuccio in London sucking for investment money. If she had oratory skills it must be when she is on her knees. 15 minute allotment and spent 40 minutes rambling mostly about the IMF. She is scared shitless of the sanction or she would not have spent 75% of her speech it.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    42

    first ,let's test you you are from US or ñot .

    How mañy “” actors “” in US ?

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Cap, Yeah a whole speech against the unfair rules that her country agreed to! How dare they!
    Gosh what a bunch of nonsense the poor translator couldn't even keep up with the idiotic rambling.
    She knows the end of the rope is here and no one cares if Argentina is excluded from the world. It is Brazil's problem now. Let's see if they step up when it all comes crashing down.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    39 Truth_Telling_Troll

    eeeerrrrrmmmm pot, kettle, black??? The thing I find MOST incredible about you is not the lies and half truths that YOU come up with, but you believe them as well.

    Now there is this bloke Juan who's been asking for you... I would like you to “Do Juan”

    LOL.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    this boy is not from US .

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @46

    Show were I have lied.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    All the news reported she is going to the UN to claim the Falklands and I call that hardly a blurb. She spent some much time about IMF and rules. I am convinced she is scared senseless (even more so now) about the writing on the wall and the implications of a sanction. I see the peso is picking up pace in it's decline.
    Now she can go back to the Mandarin for a nice little protest

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    48 Truth_Telling_Troll

    I haven't got enough space for that!!! LOL I notice you didn't say anything about those “Half-truths” that you come up with mmmmmm, that says a lot......

    45 yankeeboy @ 43 Captain Poppy

    Didn't catch all the speech but I did catch the tone of disbelief from the translator. She should play the O2!! I think there is enough material to do 3 maybe even 4 nights.

    If I was Argentinian I would be embarrassed by that performance, if that was meant to show that Argentina is a serious player on the world stage, a country that has got its sh*t together, then she FAILED

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    50. I think most of the world knows she is a nutter and avoids her like the plague.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Any favorite was when she offered the world the lesson they learned about debt. I assume it was how to default on contractual obligations and become a worldwide pariah

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I think she was off her meds and I am not joking....

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I thought she was a little unsure. She had a run-in with reporters the night before and refused to answer question. She had a little hissy-fit when asked about the Argentine people being angry about dollar restrictions. If she turns up at the Harvard forum she won't be able to flick her hair and storm off.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    NEW YORK, Sept. 22 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- Today, American Task Force Argentina alerted New Yorkers with a posting on the Times Square bill board that Argentine President Cristina Kirchner has hurt American taxpayers by repudiating billions in debt to U.S. creditors and defying the U.S. federal court system.

    Nothing like letting New York know a deadbeat arrived

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    @ 11 TTT
    I traveled from Missiones to Ushuaia, every inch of Argentina. And I'm from USA.
    A “poor” American comes across more money via US welfare system, social security, begging, foodstamps, etc in any given day than an upper middle class Argentine.
    “Poor” people in USA = upper middle class Argies.

    And yet, nowadays USA is cheaper than overpriced Argentina. The only thing more expensive in USA is housing, and not by much. And if you consider how much better the quality of homes in USA are, then really US housing is cheaper than Argentina on a quality for quality basis. EVERYTHING else, even beef, is much cheaper in USA than Argentina.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @56 Master

    Nice bit of “Truth Telling”!

    You may not get any admissions from TTT or the other trolls, that you are right, but it should give them some real personal doubts about their economy.

    Sep 25th, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @
    Ignorant Idiot talking from their @ss again.

    50 million poor in US and 60 million more without health insurance.
    Standard of living for poor like in Africa.
    Actually US is starting to look like Africa but without Diamonds and Safaris.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obho7uBg3-A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obho7uBg3-A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obho7uBg3-A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obho7uBg3-A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obho7uBg3-A

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obho7uBg3-A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obho7uBg3-A

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obho7uBg3-A

    Well according with Hugo Boss UK based company you are not Global competitive anymore so better to close US factories and move to Turkey.

    I like how capitalism works and you guys?

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 03:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Dunny

    You've never left Argentina, have you?

    CFK will do her best to stop you, as well...

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 06:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Troy Tempest

    Oh! I’m very surprised by your level of guessing. Are you some kind of guru?
    Could you enlighten me please?

    “CFK will do her best to stop you, as well...”

    Really? And how would be that?

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Dany, Go back to your slum you are embarrassing yourself. You've obviously never left your 3rd world, disgusting, crime ridden, corrupt, crumbling country and probably never will. We don't give visas to uneducated peasants.
    Most Rgs would cut off their right arm to get a chance to live in the USA, just ask the ones crying and carrying on while they are being deported by USA ICE. I think it is hilarious. Rg Doctors/Engineers working as maids and gardeners here. No thanks we have enough.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Yankeeboy,the quality of your posts do not reflect you as a serious person.But having said that I don't think you are anyway.Are you sure you don't want picking up from the airport.Dont pay for a bodyguard he might rob you.
    How is the USA coming out of a globe crisis,what is 'protecting' it from the world economy,protectionism.Think about it.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Let's see we allowed imports of almost 3 TRILLION last year. So either you are grossly misinformed or an idiot.

    No my driver has worked for me for many many years I trust him completely thanks for the offer.

    We seem to be coming out of the recession slowly mostly due to the Socialist we have running the country currently but if all goes well we will have a new Prez in about a month.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @60

    Getting worse for the Argies very quickly now.

    - 27% inflation = loss of purchasing power, depletion of personal savings, which in turn means less consumer spending, fewer jobs, and an economic slowdown.

    - strict currency controls and foreign transaction tariffs.

    - Biometric “Nationality Cards” will keep tabs on movements of citizens and their financial transactions.

    Not looking very encouraging for Argentinians...

    While I feel sorry for the average citizen, you trolls and slavish followers of CFK will be affected just as much.

    CFK pays you in pesos, right? I feel good about that.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Will your new prez,Yankeeboy,do things differently.Like Batman would.What will he do,apply his business methods.

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I hope so, we absoluteiy need a turn around artist and a budget genious. If not we will be on the road to becoming a loser like Argentina and nobody here wants that!

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Cinderella came back after five minutes and full of joy exclaimed:
    “I'm still the most beautiful in the world”

    Then Tom Thumb went in and within minutes left happy shouting:
    “Still no one smaller than me”

    Dumbo came out happy and then flapping his ears said:
    “I'm still the only flying elephant”

    Ali Baba came in escorted by his 40 thieves. After 10 minutes he came out full of rage and insulting:
    “Who the fuck is Cristina Kirchner and his cabinet”

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Nice tale poppy.What does it mean?

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @67 Poppy

    Good one!!

    I'm waiting to see if the Trolls understand it,

    ProRG “American”

    “Aussie” sunshine

    “British” Kirchnerist

    Somehow, methinks not. :-)

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    lol, these jealous uneducated impoverished Argie “trolls” hate USA....til you wave a green card in front of their face, then they'd cut off their own balls to get that green card, and if you gave it to em, they'd leave the same day, not even stop to tell fam/friends, they'd call them from the US to tell them the GREAT news that they made it to the greatest nation in the world!

    Sep 26th, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @yankeeboy

    “I hope so, we absoluteiy need a turn around artist and a budget genious. If not we will be on the road to becoming a loser like Argentina and nobody here wants that!”

    You are already a loser mate and there is nothing someone can do about it, sorry.

    BTW I don’t need any visa to enter into your shitty country falling like stone or to any EU country or to any Mercosur country.

    But you do idiot and if that it is not enough you are charged for a visa, because losers Amexicans have to pay we don’t.

    @mastershakejb
    Are you serious?
    WTF is going to do an Argie with your green card? Get free food stamp for collectors?

    There are more Americans than African begging for jobs around the globe. Do that tell you something?

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    lol, do you realize that no one on here takes you even the slightest bit serious, DanyAspergers? You can't even speak English properly. Your anger spasms are as inaccurate as ever, and what I said is absolutely accurate.
    So try harder, spazz out some more, poor third world bum.
    I traveled every inch of your country, something you can't afford to do, and you can't even step foot in mine. ;D

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @71 Dungy

    “BTW I don’t need any visa to enter into your shitty country falling like stone or to any EU country or to any Mercosur country.

    But you do idiot and if that it is not enough you are charged for a visa, because losers Amexicans have to pay we don’t.”

    Dungy - the inarticulate school-yard bully who will never make to University.

    The rest of the world will move on - while you become irrelevant, consumed by your own anger and disillusionment in a government that doesn't care about you.
    Mindless child.

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Unless Dany has dual citizenship he absolutely needs a visa and if he is between 19-35 or over 65 he most likely can't get one.

    I spent many days at the USA BA Embassy watching the RG losers get denied and then asking for their application fee back.

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Yankeeboy-Have not got better things to do than hang out at random place.Argentine embassy for a few days and the in a couple of months it will be outside random hotels in Argentina .It takes a bit of believing does some of this.

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Umm I had business at the US Embassy. There is no other place in Argentina to get documents notarized that are valid for the USA.

    Are you that stupid?

    I'm not a hooker I don't stand outside of random Hotels do you?

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Q: What's the difference between a Christina Kirchner and a trampoline?
    A: You take off your shoes before you jump on a trampoline.

    Q: What's the difference between a Christina Kirchner and a prostitute?
    A: The prostitute gives value for the money she takes.

    Q: What's the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead Kirchner in the road?
    A: Vultures will eat the skunk.

    Q: What's the difference between a Christina Kirchner and a catfish?
    A: One is an ugly, scum sucking bottom-feeder and the other is a fish.

    Q: Why should the Kirchners be buried 100 feet deep?
    A: Because deep down, they're really good people.

    Q: What happens when you cross a pig with a Peronist?
    A: Nothing. There are some things a pig won't do.

    Q. How many Kirchners does it take to screw in a light bulb?
    A. Just one, but it really gets screwed.

    Q: How many Peronists does it take to change a light bulb?
    A: It's irrelevant; they still don't know they're in the dark!

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 2012

    @76 YankeeNobody
    You are not from the USA.
    If so, please release your full name, address and telephone number like I did.
    I am the only argentine citizen residing in the USA. I can disclosed my ARIZONA DRIVING LICENSE/ TELEPHONE NUMBER/ADDRESS/ARGENTINE AND USA PASSPORTS, MY USA NATURALIZATION CERTIFICATE NUMBER AND MY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER . ALL LEGAL DOCUMENTS.
    YankeeNobody is what you are.
    Your comments simply don't make any sense.
    Your contribution is to drop more CRAP in this web site known as a Port-A-John.
    77 Conqueror/Captain Poppy
    Same idiot like Conor Luden-Brown telling “irish doggie jokes”!
    Come on...I am still waiting to see your real name, address and phone number....but I doubt you will do that...
    why?
    Conqueror/Captain Poppy is a WIMP!

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    lol, 2012 nutcase
    Only an idiot releases their personal info online.....hence why you did, idiot ;)

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 2012

    @ 79
    Not at all.
    There is nothing wrong releasing your identity....
    only the UK Team rubbish bloody english WIMPS cover their identity.... they are afraid of retaliation....jijiji

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    oh believe me, no one's afraid of internet retards like you or any other argie. Talking big online means you factually have a small penis and are a coward. Congradulations on your small penis and cowardice.

    Sep 27th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @yankeeboy

    Oh! Poor boy he needs a paid visa to enter into Argentina and he struggles to get one, may be that is the reason he lives in the US consulate going back and forth with papers.

    May be you should say that you are Bolivian next time because they don’t need a visa. Who is going to note the difference after all?

    BTW why you scream like crazies all the time?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8r1qehjp-E&feature=fvwrel

    Anyway I don’t need a visa to enter to your shitty country mate, because EU nationals from countries in the Schengen Zone get 90 days free pass without having to obtain a visa.

    But don’t worry I’m not planing to collect US food stamps for my album or to be surrendered for salsa dancers and Spanglish speaker at the moment.

    But I recommend you to go to England instead but try to avoid to get in the wrong tram because you can find this lady who will tell you “dyaknow wa’ imean?, Ya ain’t Englissssh either, so go back to you fucking country”.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8r1qehjp-E&feature=fvwrel

    And be sure to pay your ticket Bro because fat man can get mad with you.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8r1qehjp-E&feature=fvwrel

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    DanyAspergers, it's apparent you have mental illness, go get help....that is if Argentina can afford to give you such help.

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    FYI-James Anaya, the U.N. special rapporteur on the rights of indigenous peoples, has conducted the United Nations’ first-ever investigation into the plight of Native Americans living in the United States. Anaya’s recommendations include advising the U.S. to return some land to Native American tribes, including South Dakota’s Black Hills, home to the famous Mt. Rushmore monument. Anaya says such a move would be a step toward addressing systemic discrimination against Native Americans that continues to this day. “The indigenous peoples of this country ... suffer from poverty, poor health conditions, lack of attainment of formal education [and] social ills at rates that far exceed those of other segments of the American population,” Anaya says. “These conditions are related to a history of wrongs that they have suffered.” [includes rush transcript]

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    USA did that centuries ago.....meanwhile Argentina CURRENTLY evicting indigenous from their land, lol. Way to go Argies, always double standards and blind as bats to your own sh*thole country.
    You focus more on USA than your own country. Why? because your nation is insignificant, and USA is the most powerful in the world

    Sep 28th, 2012 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @ mastershakejb

    Don't get confused mate. We talk about US because of your exotic dances like the salsa from New York Hip hop.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=b7zZusakYOg

    BTW do you dance Hip Hop also and eat Burritos?

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    83#
    You are British for sure!
    The post is a continuation of another thread and highlights the fact that currently,you understand what currently means don't you,this is a comment from Anaya,on the situation of indigenous people in the USA.In that country they are known as Native American because some other people took the name American.
    Try to remember that the descriptions you give to other people fall into you when you get things wrong.The USA did it in the past and they are still doing it.Do you know that they don't recognise Native American religion in all circumstances.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @87 Yugo

    “Try to remember that the descriptions you give to other people fall into you when you get things wrong.The USA did it in the past and they are still doing it.Do you know that they don't recognise Native American religion in all circumstances.”

    You are really grasping at straws, aren't you?

    In a modern state, those that are enlightened and existing CURRENTLY, Church is separate from State.

    ie. religions are not recognised “in all circumstances”

    You are accountable for your own CURRENT actions. If they are immoral, amoral, or criminal, they are not deemed 'acceptable' because some one else committed the same crime in the past, or recently.

    The genocides of Bosnia, Rwanda, and Cambodia, are no less morally repugnant and criminal because the Nazi's did the same thing.

    Argentina must take responsibility for its own actions and moral choices.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    yulena perhaps you should do more uncensured reading about the American Indian Religious Freedom Act 1978 and modified in 1994 before you speak on matters of North American indians in the USA.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    89# I don't need to read this act for what I have stated.Maybe you might take more interest in Native American matters.
    88# penitentiaries are to do with the state aren't they?

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    78 Schizo Sussie
    Why would you release all that information online but you won't let us see your photo on facebook? I am online a lot, I expect TTT might have figured out who I am but you are far too stupid. So here's the deal, post a proper facebook page with your dog's cunt face on it and I might give you a few more hints.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    why yuleno?.....why would I do that versus hat I currently do?

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    lol Yuleno, your paranoia is getting to you, I'm American. Raised in Westlake Village, Thousand Oaks, one of the wealthiest towns in the world, where Will Smith lives. And then moved to Naperville, also one of the wealthiest in the world. Now I travel the world, and in a few years when I finish the world, I'm going to buy a small plot in Hawaii, build my home, maybe a small business.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @90 Yugo

    “ I don't need to read this act ”

    You sound just like TTT, “I can't be bothered to read that article”.
    You trolls don't want to read articles that may not support your point of view, but you are still prepared to argue.

    Lazy trolls, as well as intellectually lazy.

    @78 Sussie

    Sussie try's to call out the Brits and yanks, but lies about his own location, Burno Aires.

    - He says he's a woman, but we know he's just a cheap CFK look-alike transvestite.
    - he says he lives in luxury in Tempe Arizona, but we revealed the address he gave us was a drug and vermin infested slum
    - he immediately changed his address to one in Las Vegas, Nevada, where he says he had a life of “easy money in the casinos”.
    Yeah, sure... LOL LOL

    sussie, in short, is full of BS and impotent rage.
    He will never post on FB, but I would bet he is NOT ,
    “a very attractive 5'6” proud Argentinian lady”

    Best to ignore him/it

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Kudos Troy!!!! All these troll's are the same. The either love argentina and asslips and they do not live there, or they can't be bothered to read laws, worldwide accepted stats, or anything that contradicts what they say. How closed minded is that?One's an RG that lives in Europe, another RG but lives in Canada........that in itself says alot about their true opinion on argentina and south america in general.
    yulie is obviously an indian with his focus on their phlight. Apparently he thinks the whole world treats them the way they did in history of currently in south america. Yulie, pick up your bags and move on. It's a brave new world and it's no longer the the 1800's.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 03:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    Great point, Captain Poppy, why they livin abroad if they love Argentina so much?

    And let me explain to the mentally retarded trolls, that we all know the reasons why (can't get a job that pays decent wage, lack of freedoms, high cost of living and inflation, high crime, etc) it was simply a rhetorical question.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @mastershakejb

    Ha ha ha The Amexican better known as “El Conejo” comes from a little Village of 8k inhabitants with a lake.

    And now travelling the world like the Beverly Hillibillies...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=IjVzmIV8gwk

    Amazing...

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    93# If you come from wealthy places,and I don't see of what significant that is in this instance,why didn't you get a decent level of education.
    Tell me why will you only buy a small plot in Hawaii ?
    96# Poppy.Are you considering yourself as a senior poster on mercopress,advising and informing those with less experience than yourself.
    Please make sure it's good advice and sound information you give out.Pass it by yankeeboy as a precaution.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    lol Yuleno, my education far surpasses that of your own. You can barely speak English, pero yo hablo espanol fluido.
    Hawaii is expensive, and anyway I don't need much to be happy, a small plot will do me nicely.
    Dany Aspergers, once again, you have some form(s) of mental illness, please seek help.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 2012

    @42 YankeeNobody
    @43 Conqueror/Captain Poppy are not from the USA'
    I am the only one posting in Mercopress that resides in the USA:
    P.O.Box 7141
    Tempe, Arizona 85281
    USA
    Most of the comments are placed by the UK team under different names to show they are “winning” the Port-A-John Dump the Biggest CRAP Contest which is the goal of Mercopress....

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    lol schizo paranoia nutcase ^ left his sh*thole nation to live in USA, go back to Argentina if you love it.....PLEASE go back and leave my country, you third world uneducated ape
    I'm beginning to see the only Argies willing to defend Cristina are certifiable nutters.

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 02:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @98 Yugo

    “93# If you come from wealthy places,and I don't see of what significant that is in this instance,why didn't you get a decent level of education.
    Tell me why will you only buy a small plot in Hawaii ?”

    Mastershake is exercising his Self-Determination and does not have to account to Argentina how he spends his own resources, in his own country or elsewhere.

    I don't imagine you can understand that.

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    100 2012
    Come on Sussie, Facebook!! We know you can post from BA, how do you think I got your ISP in the first place you lunatic. You've lost!

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @mastershakejb

    Hey Amexican don’t forget to bring to Hawaii a big ration of Burritos and Tacos with you just in case...

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @104 Dungy

    So you hate Mexicans, too?

    Jealousy?

    How many in the list now??

    The more unethical and immoral your behaviour, the more you will be criticised.

    I suppose this exercise in cause& effect is wasted on a troll with a government mandate and no conscience...

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 2012

    @91 Zhivago=Simon68=ChristR= same rubbish bloody english WIMP
    Have lost what?
    The Economist readers elected my comments as the most popular...remember me...“.Argentina cooking books”.....
    The UK Team posting under so many different names have demostrated to reach one goal in this web site.....the Port-A-John is full of UK... CRAP.....
    (rubbish bloody english people.....same around the whole world!

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    Dany Berger
    There are some exceptionally good Taco restaurants in Honolulu, Oahu and Kauai, you can get the traditional ones which are authentic Mexican or they also have fantastic raw sushi tacos and possibly some of the best tasting pork in the world. You've never been there, have you?

    Sussie
    Come on, give us rubbish bloody englishmen a thrill and post your ugly mug on facebook!!!

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    @Troy Tempest

    “The more unethical and immoral your behaviour, the more you will be criticised.”

    And who cares?

    Are you a Burritos & Tacos eater also?

    @Zhivago

    Nope but I used to go on weekends to Monaco, Cannes, Nice. Santa Margherita (Ligure), Switzerland, Venice, Turing, Austria, etc.

    And don’t like pork an animal with too much diseases like “triquinosis”, etc.

    Just read meat (nope in Europe) and chicken, vegetables and some carbos...

    Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    DB
    All nice places, Hawaii isn't any better, its just different, surely you can appreciate that! My favorite resting place is Eilat, right at the bottom of Israel.

    Oct 02nd, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • KretinaKK

    A huge “cacerolazo” (pot banging protest) in protest of the Kirchner corrupt governement, is planned for November 8th not only in every single city and town in Argentina, but in front of every Argentine consulate all over the world! Here's the link:
    http://www.facebook.com/events/315644108534028/

    Oct 03rd, 2012 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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