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Rousseff tells Cameron British interest in Brazil has come at the right time

Saturday, September 29th 2012 - 01:06 UTC
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President Dilma Rousseff said British interest in Brazil had come at the right time after her government announced last month a 66 billion dollars investment in road and railway building as part of a massive plan to upgrade her country's dilapidated infrastructure, which includes modernizing ports and airports. Read full article

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  • johnfarrel2050

    Brazil is great country and it doesn´t need to buy anything to the uk pirates!!. Cameron please stop bothering in Southamerica !!! Everybody knows that you are a great clown pirate!! Cameron please, go back with your stupid military vessels to your country !!

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BLACK CAT

    @1 johnfarrel2050 (#)

    Is your comment based on just looking at the photo or did you actually read the article first?

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 06:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Harry Stamper

    @1 John , can't be very busy in the College Common Room. You must concentrate on your studies and read the article fully as suggested by BC before making a complete tit of yourself !!!

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 06:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rule Brittania

    OOOOOH CFK won't like this , first we build them military ships and now Rousseff is spreading her legs for us lol ... “ what are you doing trading with the pirates?? You can't do business with the UK because the falklands is a regional issue!!!” lol little argentina being reminded once again how impotent she is .. no wonder people like johnfarrel2050 get so angry ;)

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 07:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Thoroughly enjoyed the London Olympics, not just the fantastic sport but the whole Olympic experience. I have the opinion that Brazil are going to do a fantastic job for 2016, their enthusiasm seems limitless and I think they know that they have reached a point in the history where the Sky is the limit, this century is going to be a wonderful and exciting time to be Brazilian. Only a fool would would not try to hitch their carriage to their economic train and there is nothing wrong with increasing your prosperity by helping someone else to the same to do the same with theirs. This is a fantastic opportunity for British business and know how, all that is needed now is to develop a reputation for good quality, delivered on time and at a fair price to both.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    This is how proper politicians and leaders encourages international investment between their prospective countries.

    Brazil has a very bright future ahead of her, and will not doubt become one of the worlds leading countries.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RobWilliams

    “Rousseff invited British businesses to invest in Brazil oil and gas, defence, mining and financial services industries.”

    Definitely get into their oil and gas buisnesses, their offshore deposits are HUGE. Then defence, that's a no brainer.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Well it is very clear now that “yes Cristina, you're right, it is a regional cause” is just all about telling her what she wants to hear to shut her up. The UK has far more to offer Brazil than Argentina ever could and Dilma has realised this, she is also part of the G8, so she gets to see Cameron quite often and they are obviously developing a friendship. We are also strategically well placed between the US and Europe and we build damned impressive ships. Yes I think the Argies are going to be more than a little peeved about this.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Brazil will always trade with their excitable neighbours and they make a lot of money from it. No reason they cannot establish good trade links across the globe. Trade = wealth.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ken Ridge

    Good to see the UK spreading it's trading wings, for a long time I have said we put too much into trading with Europe, we should be trading more with countries like Brazil, Canada, Australia, NZ, US, Uraguay, Paraguay & Chile.
    We should reduce trade with China & totally stop all trade with Argentina & other rougue nations.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LightThink

    What can Britain sell to Latin America other than abominable accented English language courses ?

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    My accent Welsh boyo, my wifes is Yorkshire appen lad and my daughters are Norfolk my booty! Which one would you care to buy.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LightThink

    none of them.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @11
    It's not a case of what can the UK sell to Brazil, it's more a case of what we are selling right now. You need to get with the program dick head! You should be more concerned that your so called staunch ally is doing business with us at all - lots of business.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @1 johnF
    Britain was invited to see what can be achieved.

    @11 lightthink

    English is the world's business language. It is the world's language for international flight and shipping. It is taught in nearly every school in the world.

    Britain is a major world market and it has a lot of expertise in very many areas, it sells this around the world. You guys have your heads in the sand if you think Brazil can't benefit from british expertise and knowledge. And this trade connection is a two way street, all winners.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Dilma is not stupid and understands quite well the international realtions and scenario.
    It seems Cameron is very very worried about SAm unity if not he wouldnt have come.
    and sorry to say but dont think Brasil finds your illegal usurpation near our region with militarisation and knowing you background of NATO and the role played in Middle east and Africa, and always usurpating, invading, etc, a nice deal. After all we share with Uruguay and Brasil the southatalntic, as it has to be, and will try to defend this stance. Business is business other thing a foreign country with intruders stealing intentions of land sea and resources.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    This is good for both Britain and Brazil and truly disastrous for Argentina.

    Still it does make sense for us to share with Brazil our advanced military technology, I mean you never know when they are going to need to fend of the rogue state that is Argentina........

    It also goes to show the reduction in Argentine influence in South America that many SA countries are forming alliances with Britain in the face of Argentine pressure.

    I guess thats what happens when you're economy heads for a default again, your politicians keep embarrassing themselves on the world stage losing all credibility and many of the largest world bodies like the UN and IMF start looking to punish Argentina for breaching their policies. And they can't even threaten anyone with their rusty failed military...

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    you play the divide and conquer, and we know it.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @16 malen
    Cameron comes to make business opportunities. It would be nice to have a united world but he's here for other reasons.
    If Brazil was truly Malvinistic it would be hypocritical to invite UK to do business. Falklands is not Dilma's dilemma. Brazil clearly would rather do business with us that side with CFK.

    NATO keeps the peace and keeps us safe. You have no real equivalent in your neck of the woods. NATO never usurps.

    You are clearly confused, you believe the south atlantic is just for the latin american countries. I think you'll find that it is only yours in certain places. Your talk is undoubtedly racist.

    Always usurping. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. So, your colonialisation of south america does not count? Even now your country evicts indigenous peoples. Clearly you are a hypocrite.

    Brazil does not dance to argentina's tune and it's a good thing too. To have a mindset link CFK would plunge Brazil into disaster.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Re-post

    I wrote on this site years ago that there was huge opportunity for UK trade with Brasil - particularly in INFRASTRUCTURE and EDUCATION. Naturally, there is always need for DEFENCE, and the UK has huge capacity to provide Brasil with the tools and skills needed for her to defend herself.
    This guidance was passed through the official ambassadorial channels also.

    The Olympics has been the catalyst to break the uneasy log-jams of Menendes, of TFI, of Mercosur/EU. World-scale success with the whole world watching is an amazing breaker-of-log-jams.

    Bi-lateral deals is the way to go .... at least until Mercosur countries can agree on First world standard protocols for trade deals between blocs, and this could be a VERY long time coming. Then there has to be assurances that they will be stuck to by all countries signing the deals ... this could take even longer for certain countries.

    I am massively pleased that JCB is in there and will build factories for its products in Brasil.
    [Caterpillar (USA), JCB's major competitor, has manufactured in Brazil since 1954,with a product range including world class hydraulic excavators, compactors, wheel loaders, motor graders, backhoe loaders and crawler tractors, as well as tools and special accessories for their equipment. Recent plans include new factories in Brasil for backhoe and small wheel loaders.]

    There is a HUGE need for *advanced* road construction across this massive sub-continental country. A country-wide world-class infrastructure - including whole new towns and cities - is just waiting to begin. The UK/EU can help this, as can China and the USA, etc.

    Dilma can strip away the horrendous Brasilian barriers to trade of this scale.
    I believe she is one of the few people in the Brasilian establishment with the skills and focussed drive to make this happen.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Sorry Musky havent you read the article here with Brasil desagreements with UK inspite of business??
    “NAto never usurpes”, yes usurpes like it is allowed to do in 21st century
    Im not racist. You arent, so then, can we go to Liverpool, take sovereignty and steal resources like you do??

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Malen- do please enlighten us on this solidarity? Our trade and links with Uruguay are growing, Falklands vessels continue dock in Montevideo for repairs etc.
    Brazil we have never had much direct business with as further away - But watch this space come 2014 when oil and gas exploitation and further exploration get underway. Brazil is not daft.
    Some of our sports folk are competing in an international competition in Brazil just now - good - sport is above politics. But guess who sent their Embassy staff to the arena to try and get the Islands flag removed from display - and they were instead read the rules book by the organisers and left empty handed!
    Give you a clue - the same country who tried to work Olympic sports into ints dispute with UK.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Taking oil resources (gas) from the islands will be only yours stealing
    And docking british militar ships in the continent it will be not recommended
    And badminton, I dont know whats that, so who cares. Kids here play a la bolita and can use nice invented flags, we can make a championship and invite you. who cares.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    The Islands belong to the people of the Falkland's not to the UK so taking their own resources to a sane man doesn't consistent stealing.

    The British will dock military ships where ever the receiving country will allow it and you'll not do anything about it. If you don't like it, well thats just tough as we don't really care what you think.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    As I have posted previously, most of the problems facing Uruguay stem from Argentina.

    How great it would be to have someone like Dilma in charge of AG instead of the wholly inadequate incumbent there now.

    At least Uruguay would be able to talk intelligently to Dilma, an impossibility with TMBOA. Such a shame, such a missed opportunity for both countries.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    the rules in this region are ours decissions, you dont have a say

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Unfortunately for you malen, that make believe world you live in simply does not exist.

    There are no rules for your region it seems as you are a bunch of fragmented countries that do not agree with each other in many different political organizations like OAS/Mercosur etc. Not to mention some of our allies are in those organisations which unfortunately for you does mean we have a say in your affairs.

    Try again....

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Britian does not rule the world..... each regionbuilds its own rules yes
    which allies do you have in UNASUR and MERCOSUR??

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LightThink

    14
    tell us what are the Britain exporting goods.

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    15
    becoming English language to the worldwide using is very humiliating
    for Britain people. think again.

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    28
    they are only US patch.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Who said anything about UNASUR? OAS is the most important of the groups, now remind me which countries are in that and which are British allies?

    Also who said Britain rules the world? Not me.....

    Besides that its all doesn't matter since the UK provides defence to the Falkland Islands and will continue to have its military in that region for as long as it likes and you can't do anything about that, at all.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    OAS is only important to you lot. In SA region, what Unasur decides weights far heavier than the usual ranting of the OAS...

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LightThink

    the present UK and its peripherical structure should be smashed into fragmentation.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @32 - lightthink

    As usual you make no sense.

    @31 - Guzz

    Brazil is not going to let Argentina, Unusaur, Mercosur or the OAS get in the way of its own self interests. That is the interests of the people of Brazil who want a better future.

    That future doesn't appear to lie solely with south America. Sensible countries trade with many different countries and shop around to get the best deals.

    All your comments Guzz smack of jealousy. Are you jealous because Brazil is doing so much better than you own country (whichever nationality you are admitting to being today?)

    Does it upset you because the Brazilians don't want to be a part of Argentina's united south America? Or is it because a united South America is more likely to be run by the Brazilians and not your beloved dictator?

    Poor Guzz. Your dream of a new USSR (United SouthAmerican Socialist Republic) is going down the toilet just like the Argentine economy.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @28 malen
    Your world is largely consigned to the space between your ears. Liverpool and similar are british to the core.
    NATO protects its members, so your 21st century conent is pure stupidity.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I'm quite fine with Brazil leading the way, as they always have been, together with Argentina. As for my Uruguay, being such a small nation, we are quite dependant of both those nations. Like it or not, it's a much better fate than being dependant of you lot. We tried that for 200 years with an oligarchy working your cause. That goes for Uruguay, Brazil, Chile AND Argentina. With our neighbours we share a history, with you lot, we only share interests...

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Brasil doesnt want to be part of Arg and united with southamerica???
    sorry babies, they are doing business and at the same time Br says has disagreements with political international issues with UK, ejem, ejem, catch it??
    NATO invades its not members, specially poor, with oil resources and with the excuse of dictators. Yes agree.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Malen you make no sense and there is nothing to be sorry about other than being wrong I suppose.

    Did you read where Brazil and the UK disagree? If not I will help on matters to do with Iran and Syria.

    And what you said about NATO makes less than zero sense.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    NATO is a corrupt organization for delinquency. Show us if in Afghanistán, Libia, Iraq you are not stealing oil, making money with the reconstruction of cities you destroyed and selling arms etc etc. Show proofs.
    And are you saying that Br is becoming your ally instead of SA in the issue (international and regional issue) of Malvinas??? Too much drink in those isles.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @11 Nothing you would understand. Trot off and gorge more of Maximo's cream cakes!
    @16 Can't read, can you? Britain signed $161 million of business deals in TWO days. That's 756,055,144 ARS. 756 MILLION pesos. And another $400 million on the way. That's another 1,878,397,875 ARS. Nearly 2 BILLION pesos. Could be 2.75 BILLION pesos less for argieland!
    @21 You could try going to Liverpool, taking sovereignty and stealing resources. A word of warning. Scousers aren't Amerindians. They fight back. And here's the kicker. You cowardly lot sent 66,000 troops to overcome 80 Royal Marines. Metro Liverpool has a population of 1,381,200. Pro-rata, you are going to need 1,139,490,000 troops. Isn't that several times your entire population?
    @26 You can make all the rules you like. INSIDE argieland. Neither the Falkland Islands, South Georgia nor the South Sandwich Islands are in argieland. You don't get to make rules for them. Get used to it. There is unlikely to be any appreciable change in the next 500 years.
    @28 Don't need any. You might want to think that, 30 years ago, we only sent less than 10% of our armed forces!
    38 Both little “unasur” and even smaller “mercosur” are both corrupt and illegitimate. They will have to be smashed.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    35 Guzz
    “With our neighbours we share a history, with you lot, we only share interests...”

    Well, as you know I have only been in Uruguay for 19 months, but I have read about how Uruguay was formed, etc.

    Did not Argentina try and subjugate Uruguay completely and Artigas (an Argentinean) kick their arses out of the country?

    And, while this was going on, did not Brasil try and conquer Uruguay for themselves?

    Is this the history you share with our neighbours? Mmmm! I think Uruguay is best doing what Brasil is doing and make the best effort to spread trade around the world and leave the 'neighbours' behind.

    With neighbours like Argentina, we don’t need enemies.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Good Chris
    Now have a look at our more recent history, lets say, from the 50's and onwards. More important though, is our shared ideology. I'm pretty sure I share more ideas with Rousseff than you :)

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    Argies a little on the defensive here, I wonder what the problem is? Its just a meeting between a world leader and a temporarily rich slumlord, nothing to get you knickers in a knot about.
    Speaking of knickers, I think Malen's mom made him wear his sisters' knickers when she was behind on the laundry, he has a really annoying habit of sounding like a well-whipped mommy's boy!

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    dont have sisters

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @32 LightThink (#)
    Sep 29th, 2012 - 02:20 pm

    Yes. We have a saying here in the UK.

    “Come and have a go if you think you're hard enough”.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zhivago

    43 Malen
    don't have malvinas either!

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    What a laugh.Brazil agrees to 100 million of business for the UK.
    That is all.Not a big,relationship making deal.In fact Cameron said when interviewed,that Britain should be able to do more business with Brazil and Argentina,but they can't.I wonder why.Perhaps that fount of knowledge,LEP,can tell us.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    All good you lot hail Brazil, we share loads of ideology with our neighbours of the Amazonas. In due time you will grasp the consequences of your failed project and, if you are lucky, you will share it too. By then you can officially stop lickicg Brazilian boots and actually start contributing to development. Human one, not your pockets, that is...

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Whilst at the meeting,
    The phone rang,
    The butler answered the phone,
    Winked at President Dilma Rousseff
    And said, a problem in the servants quarters,
    She picks up the phone,
    CFK rants blab la English bla , you are suppose to consult me blab la. Where ya loyally blab la,
    The phone went down,
    Everything ok,
    Said the British prime minister,
    nay,
    Just the dog barking…lol.
    .

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    41 Guzz
    ”I'm pretty sure I share more ideas with Rousseff than you :)”

    Yes, at this moment in time I am sure you do. However, Dilma is doing something unique for a LatAm leader in my opion: she is moving with the times and JUST MAYBE has realised that being on the left all the time is perhaps seeing the world with jaundiced eyes.

    I have every confidence that this woman would not let left wing dogma get in the way of improving her country. She is already head and shoulders above Lula (he of the impeccable corruption, ha ha ha) and seems poised to get rid of the rest of the deadwood such as Mantega.

    You just watch Brasil go with this woman leading them (notice I did not say RULING them like Pepe uses).

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Brazil and Argentina are very friends and good traders.....England since 1927 lost the trade with South América.... We are friends, no slaves! And Brazil support Argentina in the Falklands question!

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @50 -Brasileiro

    You have the right to believe what you want to believe, but I advise you not to be taken in by Argentine lies.

    The Falkland Islands community - arrived prior to 1833 (probably 1828/9).
    The Republic of Argentina - formed in 1853.

    So how could the Republic of Argentina have ever owned the Falklands before it was formed?

    Oh, next you'll say the United Provinces of the River Plate. But weren't the United Provinces not so united and split to form what would later become Argentina and Uruguay?

    Doesn't that mean that Uruguay has an equal claim?

    Or is it because the United Provinces set up an illegal penal colony, which was protested by the British. That colony had been in place less than 3 months before they mutinied, murdered their commanding officer and raped his wife.

    It was these murderers that were expelled. The actual colonists who were there prior to the illegal penal colony, stayed willingly the British flag. Their descendants live on the islands today.

    If the UP really thought that the Falklands were theirs why didn't they send troops in 1833 to recapture them! There was no British military presence on the islands. The UP also didn't send any military force in the intervening years either.

    How could Argentina have inherited it's sovereignty claim fom Spain? Spain dropped its sovereignty claim in the 1840's, but didn't recognise Argentina as an independent country until the 1860's. You can leave someone something that isn't yours, and Spain had already stated that the Falklands was no longer of interest to them.

    These re just some of the inconsistencies in Argentina's 'claims'.

    But the only thing that matters is that the Falkland Islanders whose ancestors lived othe Falklands before Argentina existed, have the right to choose their own future without fear of an aggressive neighbour, don't you agree?

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    LEP.More unrelated drivel.You are feeling the hurt of your failed project in South America.Is it a strange feeling to be losing ground.
    The subject is UK trade with Brazil I think.Not I am hurting.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Felipe03

    Some comments from deluded Argentinians on this article are really entertaining! There's no reason to Brazil stop doing business with the
    British for the sake of you , hermanos! At least they seem to know what
    is a fair play, instead of raising extra (and unfair) taxes on our goods like you guys actually do constantly in our region... Also, this partnership with the Brits is very important to Brazil in terms of science and technology - something that them Brits have A LOT to offer to us Brazilians.

    You argies should get together and take this woman out of “Casa Rosada”, otherwise she'll ruin your country even more. Argentina is a beautiful country and will be better off without her. BTW her speech in Harvard was embarrassing.

    Sep 29th, 2012 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    @ 51.......I believe in peace, freedom and self-determination. Maybe one bit more from education and “espírito aberto” help in the resolution. Argentinians have blood in the eyes, and the Islanders have arrogance in the brain. Brazil need of the South América. Brazil need all world, England included. This context in South Atlantic is very bad for all. We live in XXI Century, dont in Britain Rule's century.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Brasiliero- other way aroud - it is the Argentinians who have the arrogance in the brain! All we want to do is live in peace in the S.Atlantic and not bother anybody and be friends. Britain,s ruling century stopped about 100 years ago - we are all in the 21st century now
    and same as you we just want freedom and self-determination.
    You have a great country with great potential - and you are on the way to achieving it - and if UK can help you grow then it,s good trade for both.As you know, UK backs Brazil to become a permanent member of the future enlarged UN Security Council.
    We have no problem with your verbal support in the OAS etc for Argentina- you are neighbours and you need to get on with them- its realistic world - not a perfect one! You are in the same position as Chile in that.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gonzo

    @ 55 Islander1

    Spot on. I admire the way you put it, showing accuracy, respect and genuine understanding in what is best for all (including my country, Argentina). Have a good weekend and I hope people like you are chosen to voice the thoughts of the Islanders in international forums/congresses.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I love how you lot declare SA support of Arg as a need :) nodoby has to support Arg, we do it of free will :)

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    54 Brasileiro
    A couple of things to note,

    1, please, great Britain, [not England]
    2, you cannot claim something before you were even born,
    Argentina did not exist when the British were in the Falklands,

    3, if you believe, you CAN claim something after you were born,
    Then brazil and Chile, can and may well be next on the list .
    .

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MurkyThink

    What all hysterical comments . Laugh !

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    laugh,laugh,
    chuckle chuckle.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @47 guzz
    Britain gave £16,000,000,000 last year, to help developing countries. Cameron urged un countries to commit to 0.7% of gdp as agreed in earlier un summits. Britain leads the way again.
    Boot licking we don't need to do. Sounds great though if you have that fettish

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Musky
    That's great news, giving away about 10% of your stolen assets... How good of you! Tell you what, keep your limosnas and stop stealing natural resources. See how that fares... :)

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Tell you what Guzz, why don't you use your talents to convince the recipients of the aid to refuse it on moral grounds. I am sure the persuasivenesss of the arguements will prevail upon them.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Don't use poor people as your excuse, your nation is part of the problem and the reason they are where they are in the 1st place. Handing them out limosnas to appear as the good guy internationally-wise only works in the mutual EU shoulder-clapping. What the “3rd world” needs is you lot leaving them to their own mercy.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Freedom to starve, is not freedom.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Then stop starving the world, or shovel your hypocracy about freedom...

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    “Stop starving the world.” Wow, that powerful hey! What planet you living on,
    a small Island off the coast of Europe, controlling the worlds food supplies wow! Here was me reading all these comments about poor old UK being populated by a nation of has beens, in decline, living on the memories of the past, doomed economicaly, despised by all etc, etc, so on and so on. When all the while it possesses the power to starve the world. Someone should warn the UN quicky, oops silly me, you have already done that!!!!

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    It's not you alone, it's all of you. You ideology of roofless growth combined with your eternal thirst for other peoples resources is what made the world what it is today. That it is coming to an end is merely a fact, like it or not...

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @68 Guzz
    Utopia (/juːˈtoʊpiə/) is an ideal community or society possessing a desirable socio-politico-legal system. The word was coined in Greek by Sir Thomas More for his 1516 book Utopia, describing a fictional island in the Atlantic Ocean. The term has been used to describe both intentional communities that attempt to create an ideal society, and fictional societies portrayed in literature. It has spawned other concepts, most prominently dystopia.

    Sorry to break the news to you, but Utopia does not exist, its fiction.

    The real world is not a nice place, the real people living in it know that, the rest are doomed to a life time of unachievable goals, of constant frustration and disappointments. Humanity is what it is and no number of well meaning, high moral beings are ever going to change it. They can try but the outcome is already written, failure, plain and simple. It is as if it was genetic, programmed into the DNA strands of our species.

    So I am sorry to say, no it is not coming to an end. Humanity exploits, it always has and it always will, it is just that some parts of it are better at it than others. Society just labels them with names and calls them nationalities.

    Profound reasoning? maybe. An unpleasant view of us as a species? certainly, but that does not detract from the fact that it has basis in the fundamental truth about the planets most advanced beings. If you can call us that.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I'm responsible if I deny the utopy, when life dies in this reality...

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    70 Guzz

    yeah, yeah, yeah......................

    “Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so” and all that sh*t!!!

    another good one is “You can take a horse to water but a pencil must be lead”

    take your pick I've got a million of them...........

    They all sound impressive but mean absolutely nothing... hey, a bit like anything you say Guzz-y boy my little lamb.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    The fact that you fail to comprehend stuff has probably more to do with your age than the actual words that are printed...

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    An American and a Brazilian, two college kids, made Instagram in 551 days and sold it for a billion dollars.

    The world values human ingenuity a lot more than it values digging stuff out of the ground.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Envious, hypercrit and jealousy.

    Never learn, never change,

    [ Trying to rid South America of occupation by a European nation ]
    [Amazing France is never mentioned]
    Proves its just anti British rhetoric,
    And greedy Argentinean territorial ambitions,
    Full stop..

    .

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Briton :)
    What do you have for us to be envious about again?
    :)

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    British??

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    You mean the British women? Or mayhap the weather... :)))
    Proper quality of life, isn't it? :)))

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Weather bad, dreary damp , summer, dreary wet and rainy,
    Spring, no springs, winter, bloody cold, railways stop, roads stop , motorways block ,
    Would you live in Britain?

    Probably, the best country in the world.

    Says WHO ?????????
    Why the British that’s who..

    still,
    page 3 keeps em going lolol.

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I'm glad you are enjoying it :)

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    mmmmmmmmmmha ha .

    Sep 30th, 2012 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Truth_Telling_Troll

    @53

    So good. Who is saying Britain and Brazil can't benefit each other? What argentines are saying is that Britain or Brazil have absolutely nothing that can benefit Argentina, so you can keep fostering retations, we want no part of relations with the UK, Europe, and increasingly quite frankly, Brazil.

    None of you have anything of value to offer us.

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • sammy

    Can't say anyone would want to invest in argieland when you can only take a fist full or dolores out the cuntry,doesn't inspire does it.Time the tossers in the government in Wasteminster got us out of the eu,frigging krupt funkers.Brazil is badly in need of skilled workers,which aren't that prominent in argieland either.The same problem exists in both countries,maybe more so in brasil,trmites and allthe other red tapethat take years to get through.

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 01:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    TTT #81

    'An American and a Brazilian, two college kids, made Instagram in 551 days and sold it for a billion dollars.' Ayayay (#73)
    And a Brasilian jointly created Facebook.
    Combine this with the list of things that continue to come out of the UK, TTT, and there are so many benefits that Argentina might gain by developing good relationships with Brasil and the UK.

    It is a big world and there are many nations with the skills and talents that Argentina so direly needs, but Argentina seems to have a 'death-wish' in the manner in which it conducts its international trade and relations.
    It is imperative for AR to keep in with BR ... and even more imperative that AR keeps in with the countries of the Developed world, like the UK.

    AR's future is dire, TTT, if she continues to pi** on those willing and able to help her out of her predicament.

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    CFK is telling us, you are supported by South American countries,

    And you lot are telling us, you don’t need them or want them,

    Lack of communication it seems..
    .

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Briton
    It's CFK's words that weights, should you have any doubts...

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    so are you saying TTT is not working for CFK then,
    and argentina does need help..

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Argentina is a big country, with enough resources to themselves and others. In that sense, you are the ones who needs help... What kind of “help” are you offering here? Iraqi kind of help? Or Afghani? Mayhap you want to introduce your kind of democrazy in SA as well, as in the Middle East. Our Abu Ghraibs are shopping centers today, mate. Never again.

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Mr Camaron hold out the olive branch,

    CFK gives back stinging nettles.

    Oct 01st, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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