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Argentine marine who headed invasion of the Falklands on 2 April, dies
The Rear Admiral who headed the landing and invasion of the Argentine forces in the Falkland Islands on 2 April 1982 died over the weekend. Carlos Büsser was under house arrest for his alleged participation in crimes against humanity during the last military dictatorship although he was never convicted. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWithout any military or civilian casualties? Were the fuck does Mercopress get its info from? What about the Navy officer Pedro Giachino? Still on a happier note, another leader of the Junta is dead I bet Pirat-Hunter is upset.
Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one terrorist down...
Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There were a few more dead on the Arg side also which they have necewr admitted to- the Royal Marines put and antitank rocket into the backdoor or an Amtrac coming up to Stanley from the Airport to the East - nobody got out of it.
Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also there were reported to have been casualties inflicted on a landing craft as it attempted to enter the narrows - albeit not confirmed for sure.
But the Amtrac- definatley.
Comment removed by the editor.
Oct 01st, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If this clown didn't execute all the British pirates when he had the chance I really hope this traitor rots in hell.
Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, it slipped in Castilian ...
Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“invasion”, “invasion”, “invasion” ....... Nobody invades what belongs.
The Malvinas are Argentine
Viva BUSSER, Viva GIACHINO.
6 José Malvinero (#) I second that. Participants of this forum need to be perdiodically reminded that the Argentine Argentine initiative of 1982 was simply an act of territorial recovery, and acts of bravery by Giachino, that's all.
Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Editor, please remove the offensive comments posted by 1 Conor J (#)
7 ProRG_American, Exactly. So much so that when they recommended to the then British Prime Minister in 1829, INVADED the Malvinas, he said: “It is not entirely clear to me that we have NEVER had sovereignty over these islands.” Duke of Wellington.
Oct 01st, 2012 - 11:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0José Malvinero , while I have no idea if Wellington actually made that statement, and statements can be easily mis-interpreted when taken out of context..but you are wrong to say it backs up your point of view...
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It is NOT entirely clear to me that we have NEVER had sovereignty over these islands.”
it's a double negative... therefore it was clear to him that we have had sovereignty of those islands
Argentina sent a message to the British government, and the British government sent a message right back.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn, I merely pointed out that one Argentine died during the initial illegal invasion. Why is that such a big deal? Any way this chap in the article was a known member of a military Junta that killed 30,000 of its own citizens and invaded our islands to distract the population of Argentina. These are facts.
“If this clown didn't execute all the British pirates when he had the chance I really hope this traitor rots in hell.”
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Clowns get sent to Hell!
Dude!
That is SO not fair.
Think of all the Kittens!!!!!
@11: yeah, but, you know, ignore all that, rocks are more important. Apparently.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Strange how, every time the UK says the military are on the islands because of 1982, Argentina and also posters on this forum say “we've changed, wasn't us, bla bla bla” then as soon as the opportunity arises, they issue coins and shout Vuva Busser.
Argentina: we've got your number, we learned from the past, you will never get the islands back. Live with it.
@ 11 Conor J
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0ignore the socalled “ProRG_American” who is lying when it suits his purpose.
See e.g. http://en.mercopress.com/2012/09/24/paraguay-will-expose-its-dispute-with-mercosur-before-the-un-general-assembly#comment167104
As we all know, the Paraguayan parliament followed the Paraguayan constitution to a T - no coup.
“Carlos Büsser was under house arrest for his alleged participation in crimes against humanity” (Thanks to Cristina)
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0He won't be missed.
His invasion of the Falklands was celebrated (thanks to Cristina). Seems she can't make her mind up. It's like Angela Merkel thanking Hitler for the Volkswagen Beetle.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0'If this clown didn't execute all the British pirates when he had the chance I really hope this traitor rots in hell.'...but taking part in the torture and murder of Argentines isn't behaviour deserving hell, it seems.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@17
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Kinda like the Brits and Americans here that are more concerned by petty theft in Argentina over mass shootings with half a dozen dead back home.
@ 18 Truth_Telling_mickeyMouse
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you claim that the mass shootings are instigated by the British and American governments?
Do you call the Argentine practice of torture, murder, abduction of newborn and throwing political enemies into the ocean from a plane, “petty theft”?
If not, then your “logic” and your post #18 is just the usual blabbering.
Tell us: What is the origin of the word “colony”?
It's funny watching Argentines tie themselves in knots trying to laud ex members of the junta for their Falklands heroism while also condemning them for crimes against their own people. It seems crimes against humanity are fine as long as they are against foreigners.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 06:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0State funeral for this lad. With 30.000 rose petals to mark his funeral procession. one for every murdered man women and child by him and his cronies
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Viva GIACHINO
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0acts of bravery by Giachino
Argie hero :-)))))))
Falkland Island Hero's Brutal Past Discovered
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/01/149780028/argentine-war-heros-ties-to-torture-uncovered
...and the world is a slightly better place.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if the KFC regime will rehabilitate the fellow as a national hero for the Malvinas cause or if he is to contaminated for that.
I guess Islanders will not be so lucky next time because they will send some “Carlitos” from Buenos Aires who will not care to destroy everything there to archive his goal.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0In fact is the logical action to follow no dogs no rabies.
24- jajajajaj next time righto
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good riddance. “Argentina sent to the British government regarding our determination to recover the Malvinas”
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Firstly, you can't “recover” that which you never owned. The only thing this treacherous backstabbing sneak invasion demonstrated was how untrustworthy and duplicitous Argentines can be if given a chance. They demonstrated the necessity to have effective defences in place when you live next door to an unstable and volatile den of nationalist expansionist muppets. By evicting the damned invaders the British gave a better demonstration of 'determination'. Unfortunately the new junta still don't understand it. There's only one language they seem to understand. I'm sure we'll have to give them another reminder.
@ ProRG - For your information the Falklands belonged to the confederate of Buenos Aires but never belonged to Argentina. The Falklands have never ever belonged to Argentina, and as long as the people who live there have anything to do with it never will.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0truth and reason triumph some day,I was lucky to exchange words with him!!He's with God now!!!!!!!!!
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 Proof?
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Any invader of British territory deserves to die. “argies” have only ever been trespassers. Even in argieland!
@8 Stateside_Brit is right. Improve your English. It is the world's FIRST language!
@18 30,000 “disappeared” argies is “petty”? Says a lot about you! Not that I miss the argies. You never could do a proper job!
@24 Remember that! When it comes time to cull the illegal occupants of South America, we will take your advice!
@27 “confederate of Buenos Aires”? I think not. The State of Buenos Aires existed from 11 September 1852 until 17 December 1861. Long after British rule had been re-established on the Falkland Islands. But it matters not whether you refer to the United Provinces of the Rio de la Plata, the United Provinces of South America, the Argentine Confederation or the Argentine Republic, argies have only ever been trespassers!
conqueror? you are wrong!!!!!!!!!
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's comments like 6, 7 and 8 that completely baffle me. It is a mentality that has been instilled for decades with indoctrination. How can the Falklands be Argentine? You may believe that they are, but they are not Argentine and never were. It is like Britain suddenly declaring France theirs and for the next 60 years teaching British children that this is the case. You may believe it, but it isn't fact.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tell me Argentine posters, have you ever been to these Islands? Do you ever have any desire to live and work in these Islands? I am sure if any of the Argentines actually answer, it would be a 'No'.
It is insulting that the Argentine posters seem to think that the Islands belong to them more than it does to people like me and my family, who have been living and working in the Islands since the mid 1800s. But somehow, according to Argentina 'logic', the islands belong more to those 3rd generation Argentines who have never stepped foot on the Falklands, than the people whose families have been living there for 150+ years. But that is the Argentine arguement for you, it doesn't have to make sense.
@30 Go on then, dumbo. Tell it like you think it is.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31 M_of_FI
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It is like Britain suddenly declaring France theirs and for the next 60 years teaching British children that this is the case. You may believe it, but it isn't fact.”
There is a difference. England (at least) used to own large parts of France many hundreds of years ago, the Argentine have never owned the Falklands.
But you point is valid. England lost its French possessions during war, and although no one liked it, it was accepted as one of those things that happen in war.
Argentina tried to steal the islands in 1982, but they lost. Unlike a grown up country they refuse to accept that the war was their fault, and by invading they lost more than just a war, they lost the chance of the Falkland Islanders ever voluntarily joining Argentina.
Carlos Busser was a part of a military junta that murdered thousands of its own people, and would've wiped out the Falkland Islanders if given the chance.
I always find it amazing that the Argtards on here always blame the junta for the invasion, the people of Argentina were not in favour of it - honest - no matter how much evidence you can provide that shows them that they were.
So othey appauld the junta for invading but blame them for losing!
So in other words, if the junta was successful, all the people they murdered would've been forgotten, all because of a few thousand square kilometres of land!
It beggars belief.
31 M_of_FI (#)
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 02nd, 2012 - 01:41 pm
“Do you ever have any desire to live and work in these Islands?”
As you so rightly say, M_of_FI, the answer is a resounding NO. We had at least 149 years between 1833 and 1982 to emigrate to the Falklands and put an “implanted” population of Argentine descent on the Islands. If we had there would now be a majority of Argentine descent to vote in the referendum next March.
I just wonder if all those descendents of Argentine immigrants would vote for integration with present day Argentina?
I honestly believe that they would vote for the status quo. Any rational person who lives in a place that:
Has 2% inflation instead of 25-30%,
Has almost no crime,
Has a stable, democratically elected government,
Has a GDP 5 times greater than Argentina's,
Would vote for staying with what they have already got!!!!!
@ Simon68
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I like to think that any honest person has to act accordingly with what he/she thinks and says.
So my question to you is why don’t you move ASAP to the Islands?
I guess none in Argentina is going to stop you to archive your wonderful world of 2% inflation and the no crime zone and full democracy and the 5 times greater GDP.
But I guess you would never do that because you are so comfortable with your state pension that we all pay to maintain idiots like you.
And that is wonderful because even Idiots and Sepoys in Argentina can enjoy the privilege to talk their shit without fearing to be persecuted by anyone.
Now how long do you think you will last having the same attitude in the Islands?
Let’s say 1 day perhaps?
Argentina a very generous country...
@33 “I always find it amazing that the Argtards on here always blame the junta for the invasion, the people of Argentina were not in favour of it - honest - no matter how much evidence you can provide that shows them that they were.”
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A slight disagreement on that one: Deep down (and not so deep down for certain posters here) they blame the junta for failing to hold the islands and crush the Falkanders under a fascist jackboot. The 2-peso coin says it loud and proud*. You can't have it both ways though. They blow off the denial of the islanders most fundamental rights to “it was the Junta” while celebrating the same violation of fundamental human rights caused by the Junta's invasion with a commemorative coin (just like the ones Germany issued for Poland, Japan for Manchuria.... oh wait a second...). The only way to rationalize such compartmentalization is an internalized desire for an alternative history. One where Büsser, Menéndez, Piaggi, Dowling and the rest had “disappeared” the local population before the task force got their shoes on so they could enjoy the fruits of their fascist regime while not having to deal living people to remind them that their “liberation” of the islands was and is and will always be a lie.
Or maybe it's just raw hypocrisy.
* to his credit only ONE pro-Argentinian commenter here as openly rejected both the invasion and the coin - but I've only seen ONE commenter reject both.
35 DanyBerger (#)
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 02nd, 2012 - 03:10 pm
Dany, I worked very hard for over 40 years to earn my pension, nobody gave me anything for nothing!!!
I can't move to the Islands for several reasons:
1) I love living in Argentina, for all her faults, and have no wish to live anywhere else.
2) That my income is paid to me in ARS and so I have to pay a 30% inflation tax on it so I cannot afford to live outside the Argentine.
3) I still help out as a volunteer with the emergency service that I worked for all my life.
4) I believe very strongly that one day Argentina will throw off the cancerous peronism that has brought her so often to her knees over the past 70 years and she will begin to prosper as she deserves to.
5) Finally, I have all my extended familly here and I have no wish to leave them.
I probably seem, to youngsters like yourself, old fashioned, but I do believe in patriotism, not nationalism, I belive that our country should be able to hold her head up on the international stage and not be shamed by the likes of CFK, Timerman, Castro, Purriccelli, Moreno, de Vido, Kicilloff, and the rest of the K comedy team.
I also feel very sorry for people like you, Dany, who either believe the lies you are told by these disgusting “people” or, which is a great deal worse, accept their thirty pieces of silver to spout their heinous lies!!!!!
Heard something interesting this AM on a Spanish language radio station from Los Angeles. Argentine DM Puricelli will be traveling to Germany early next year to discuss modernixation of the MEKO ships. Let's see, that's 10 of them. How many “Dauntlesses's” will you have?
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you have to post your comment twice in two different articles?
@38 It was stupid enough the first time you posted it.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 038... Like the plant... I heard on a radio station in america..brilliant that means you really are an american, it's all the evidence we need.
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure the “modernixation” of the MEKO's would be great, if we could pay for it!!!!!
What is the point of modernising a navy that is to scared to leave port?
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 04 small destroyers 30 years old,
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and 6 no 30 year old patrol boats man I bet the Royal Navy is quaking in its boots
#38
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fine looking ships.
I hope you discuss having your ships fitted with reverse pitch screws so they can get back to port quickly as they did in 1982 !
The Dauntless class are designed for air defence. We would leave the Astute class subs. to deal very effectively with the surface vessels OR use aircraft carriers to launch long distance air strikes ---------- checkmate
How many nuclear powered subs. do you have ?
4 small destroyers 30 years old,
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and 6 number 30 year old patrol boats man I bet the Royal Navy is quaking in its boots.
#24
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nicely put Dany. It would not be like the last time.
I had to look up “Carlitos” as I imagine it is a colloquial name. All I could come up with was a “house of pancakes” Very frightening to the British troops stationed in the Falklands. Is it a bunch of women coming with frying pans to strike fear into them ?
One small problem , whoever or whatever they are, they had better be good swimmers as they will be sunk before they get half way across.
Or maybe you have mastered teleportation to beam them to the Falklands. Better be careful they don't arrive on one of your minefields
Thank you for this post as it makes it clear to everyone why the Falkland
population want nothing to do with the Argentine and why British forces are based there. Thank you again
@38 PorRKy American
Oct 02nd, 2012 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Heard something interesting this AM on a Spanish language radio station from Los Angeles. Argentine DM Puricelli will be traveling to Germany early next year to discuss modernixation of the MEKO ships. Let's see, that's 10 of them. How many “Dauntlesses's” will you have?”
We will modernix our fleet, too!!
Just you wait! Grrrrr...
@Simon68
Oct 03rd, 2012 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Dany, I worked very hard for over 40 years to earn my pension, nobody gave me anything for nothing!!!”
You earned a pension? Because you are in Argentina else you will be getting 200 pound at mounth and living in Africa to survive.
And you do think that by contributing by law (Ley #19032) with 3% of your salary you can have a pension?
The ARG system is based on the solidarity of active workers and business that contribute to the Funding system so you can have your pension paid every month. In such Scheme you need more active workers than pensioners to make the system viable and business and factories hiring people to fund the system. Because yes Business owners contribute more to the system.
I would really love to that you experience no “Peronism” or “Social” system Like UK Style, Menem Style, De La Rua Style, etc. so you would understand how lucky you are to have this govt. instead of a Necon one.
But as you are so anti-Everything without having a clue of nothing you sure will prefer an HSBC pension Scheme from UK where pensioners pays 80% in fees and commissions who now will retire in UK with a fund of 20.000 pounds to be paid in small quotes during his retire life after been contributed for 120.000 pounds.
Of course if he/she is so lucky and the fund doesn’t collapse before like Maxell style in the 90 in UK.
“Pension-selling companies are taking the equivalent of 80% of money paid into some pension plans out in fees and commissions, BBC Panorama has found.
In one HSBC pension plan, £120,000 paid in over 40 years would result in fees and commissions totalling £99,900.
The company said its pension product is competitive.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11452857
Very competitive for them of course...
So next time try to think what you say because Caballo and Lopez Turfy are around the corner and can cut your pension to $300 pesos so you can see what is like to live in the First world.
Argentine marine who headed invasion of the Falklands on 2 April, dies and his pension dies with him :(
Oct 03rd, 2012 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How did we get onto pensions!!! nothing like a tangent on these news articles
The MEKOs are nice boats, and even at 30yo they are the most modern part of the Argie military. But modernization costs money, real money not Argie money, and Argentina isn't Israel that have an almost unlimited guilt credit in Germany.
Oct 03rd, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 049 DanyBerger (#)
Oct 03rd, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 03rd, 2012 - 09:55 am
I don't understand what your very interesting disquisition on UK pension schemes has to do with me!!!!!
Presumably you, like the majority of the malvinistas on this site, live outside the Argentine, in your case presumably in the UK. I fid it most strange that all you petty nationalists can't manage to make a living in your own country!!!!!!
#49 using a single extreme example of a private pension fund in the U.K. is entirely misrepresentative of what is otherwise fairly comprehensive pension coverage and more generally an excellent level of social security:
Oct 03rd, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone who has worked at least 30 years is entitled to full basic state pension (for a single person this is ~£400 per month). In addition, virtually all people working in the NHS, civil service, local government (+services inc. primary and secondary education), and higher education (which encompasses a good fraction of the population) will have a very generous, often final salary, based pension. Furthermore, there is a whole basket of other benefits (housing benefit being the most important) which pensioners are entitled to if their income is too low.
Not to mention free at the point of use world class healthcare through the NHS, i.e. absolutely no need for any kind of health insurance.
The U.K. has one of the most developed social security systems in the world reflected by low level of income inequality (as measured by the GINI coefficient).
52... Don't think for a minute Duny doesn't live anywhere than a BA shanty town.
Oct 03rd, 2012 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are they sure he was 84 when he died ? He looks 84 in the picture taken 30 years ago .
Oct 03rd, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is a eulogy :
So farewell , brave dirty warrior ,
Valiantly plugging french nuns into the mains .
And then chucking them from planes .
Stealing people's babies
and selling them for gain .
Because it seemed so easy
You thought you'd up your game
Invade the falkland Islands
and bask in glorious fame.
Britannia is no pushover
It's always been the same
She's merciless and tough
and put your lot to shame.
You ended your days
Not in glorious fame
But in a squalid apartment
Without a friend to your name .
@Simon68
Oct 04th, 2012 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I used to live in Europe because I’m European and I’m living in Argentina now.
That is the reason because I laugh about your posts because you talk about something that you don’t know.
A “non-contributory” or a pension for over 80 year old in UK is of £64.40 (£257,6 per month).
Have you any idea how poor is a person living with that in UK?
The minimum pension £107.45 per week (£429,8 per month).
I know that some moron here will say that you can have a second private pension schema, yes you can but I showed how would be like. After of 40 years paying £200 per month (£120.000 total) you will remain with £20.000 to be paid in little quotes until you die. Let’s say £ 90/120 per month?
This person to avoid living in poverty has to move abroad like many Britons have done to Spain when the Peseta was so weak. But now with the decline of the pound and pension that are not updated for Brits living abroad they are facing poverty elsewhere. If pensioners cannot afford health service in those countries they also are refused to use NHS in UK.
British pensioners are among Europe's poorest, with more than two million older people at risk of poverty-
http://www.independent.co.uk/money/pensions/more-than-1-in-5-british-pensioners-at-risk-of-poverty-7827985.html
Pensioners have to live on £62 a week
http://www.independent.co.uk/money/pensions/more-than-1-in-5-british-pensioners-at-risk-of-poverty-7827985.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/money/pensions/more-than-1-in-5-british-pensioners-at-risk-of-poverty-7827985.html
90% of pensioners in UK have to turn the heating off to save money
http://www.independent.co.uk/money/pensions/more-than-1-in-5-british-pensioners-at-risk-of-poverty-7827985.html
So again stop reading “ClarinMiente” and “La Destruccion”
@inthegutter
Yeah sure mate, £400 per month in UK is nothing you cannot even pay a decent rent with that. What means poverty.
And your NHS is not exactly paradise I guess the PAMI in Argentina covers more an is much better.
As I clearly mentioned, the £400 is a minimum, and does not include the basket of other benefits. If you don't own a home you can have access to a council owned property (pensioners and other at risk groups are given priority) at a small cost, which if small enough (which it certainly is for a single bedroom flat), is essentially covered by housing benefit. Much of my (elderly) family have survived on state pension (and benefits) alone for >20 years.
Oct 04th, 2012 - 06:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Also, as I noted, the private pension you noted is an aberration presumably linked to some narrow stock index which went down at the same time. Very few people (only a small fraction of the private sector) pay into even remotely similar pension schemes.
The NHS is clearly not paradise (it certainly doesn't compete with high-end medical cover in the U.S.), but it still provides high-quality care to everyone (who's a resident) irrespective of the ability to pay. From what I gleam about PAMI it certainly does not provide as comprehensive cover as the NHS, however we could just look at health indicators to see. Hmm... it appears life expectancy (a crude measure I know) in U.K. outstrips Argentina and U.S.
Back on thread .
Oct 04th, 2012 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Carlos Busser and Hebe Bonafinni were lovers in the 70's .
Pirat Hunter & Malvinero are their children.
A perfectly confused, angry mix of left and right .
Meanwhile , the Falklands continue being British.
The Islands are even safer now , thanks to the govt of Kretina
wasting all their money on scum & lowlife instead of the defence budget .
@inthegutter
Oct 04th, 2012 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0The minimum state pension in Argentina is $1900 (pesos) and is update every x month by cost of living (last updated 11.5%).
$ 1.900 would be 250,32 pounds per month plus another 250,32 pounds as 13 payment known as “Aguinaldo” so a pensioner under the minimum scheme receives 271,18 pounds every month in pocket.
Also there is a basket of benefits that pensioners receives through the institution PAMI, that covers full health service, medicaments, glasses, teeth prosthesis, doctor visits at home, ambulances, intensive care, etc.
Also they have benefits to pay less taxes, electricity, gas, etc.
PAMI also covers them if they have a relative living with them with some handicap problems , etc.
Also provides social tourism so the pensioner can have vacations, hotels and even access to flight ticket (to reach some quota) for free for Argentina.
http://www.econoblog.com.ar/12857/turismo-social-para-los-jubilados-pasajes-aereos-gratis/
http://www.econoblog.com.ar/12857/turismo-social-para-los-jubilados-pasajes-aereos-gratis/
In case the pensioner dies his/her partner can receives the pension of the defunct even if she/he has a pension by his/her own and also covers until 2000 pesos for the funeral service.
Regarding your assumption that US has better health service I have to disappoint you UK has better service imagine what is US. And France (to cite and example) over perform both and for far distance.
US is the country that expend more in health care but is the worse in developed countries and comparable with some very poor service in developing countries.
So as always statistics do not always shows reality. I know someone that come from US and he is surprised for all the service he got from a local insurance that in Argentina is considered to be in the bottom of the scale he says that in US that will cost a fortune.
So a retire like simom68 complaining about his situation in Argentina as a pensioner even with inflation is just ridiculous...
DB : You had better lock your doors , the Gendarmeria are on strike , so some bad bolivians or peruvians might come and steal your precious govt supplied laptop .
Oct 04th, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your last post is a complete fantasy from start to finish.
59 DanyBerger (#)
Oct 04th, 2012 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 04th, 2012 - 10:31 am
Fortunately I don't have PAMI as my medical insurance, at the moment PAMI owes the loca “Colegio Médico” so much money that no doctor, dentist or private clinic will attend the OAP's affiliated to PAMI. Even the public hospitals will leave them to last in the queue!!!!!!
I know this because a lot of the local retired people ask to use my medical insurance to be attended to!!!!!!
Dany : Back on thread , last time I checked ( 1 minute ago) the Falklands were still British . So were the Cayman Islands , that evil nest of pirates that siezed the Libertad , which really ought to be renamed ARA Cautiverio , because they sure as hell are not free on that boat .
Oct 04th, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ghana by the way is a former British colony too and are our friends .
Argentina was a virtual colony of the UK and was the 9th richest country in the world , till Peron came along and spoilt it all......
Did you enjoy the football last night ? No , of course , the lights went out.
@Simon68
Oct 05th, 2012 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0This story is like your previous story about the Hospital in Florencio Varela that was hosted by a doctor strike for luck of payment to which I rang and was a lie?
Did you ring to the hospital? Sure you don’t because you are a professional lair.
@Usurping Pirate
And UK is a colony of Africa and the middle East now and?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3FwTtBVjk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3FwTtBVjk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3FwTtBVjk
Enjoying Shaira law idiot?
Are you importing pyjamas from karachi or making them locally?
Dany : Another million more trolls and you'll get a new notebook !
Oct 05th, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mind it's not stolen though , Gendarmeria are still on strike and there are some bad people out there ...
If Argentina had sharia law all government officials would be one handed .
@Usurping Pirate
Oct 05th, 2012 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't worry mate Dany to the rescue
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Embellished Shoes: $49.00
Shawl: $39.00
Fully handmade embellishment. 100% similar look guaranty.
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Original Price: $549.00
Naming Dany : $466.65
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#65
Oct 05th, 2012 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where is SHARIA law in force in the UK. I have not noticed anywhere on my travels.
Do I detect a touch of racism - are the Nazi genes coming through ?
Friday 5th October 2012 13:47 GMT
Oct 05th, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands Islands are stll British
The Libertad is still in Cautiverio
The Brazilians are laughing at you over the football fiasco
Your economy is in meltdown
The Gendarmeria/Coast Guard and the Navy NCO's are on strike
And you talk about fancy dress outfits ?
@Usurping Pirate
Oct 06th, 2012 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0BTW have you been taking advantage of the clothing offers?
Argentina a country that has its navy flagship siezed by debt collectors .
Oct 08th, 2012 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0And DB wants to discuss cheap clothing
@Usurping Pirate
Oct 08th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What’s wrong mate?
You didn’t like it?
Would you prefer something like this?
http://www.alhannah.com/images/products/me/578/detail.jpg
TV Publica should run another advert titled :
Oct 08th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ To invade British soil , we need three masted schooners ”
Oh , wait , shit , no , it's been repo'ed .Sorry 'bout that .
Mate
Se vende , se vende , la Libertad se vende .
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