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Borders and Coast Guards in conflict won’t yield; government looks for scapegoats

Saturday, October 6th 2012 - 15:09 UTC
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Argentina’s Security Ministry decided the intervention of the Border Guards’ Department of Judicial Affairs due to “severe deficiencies” found in the application of the officers' “wage demands”, which led to the current situation that on Friday night was beginning its fifth consecutive day of conflict. Read full article

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  • toooldtodieyoung

    “The greatest creator of this situation is the government itself,” the union boss said, furthering that “people want to live in a democracy, but in a real democracy, not in the kind of democracy that only gives authority to those who have responsibility to govern.”

    Message to KFC if she wants to listen :- Now would be the time to mend your ways OR leave the country and run. Either way, the people are beginning to wake up to the mess you've made..........and they are starting to get ANGRY.

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I hear the BCRA available cash reserves are down to U$10B. I wonder if this is why she is drastically trying to cut salaries...

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    I think I know who the scapegoat will be before long. I can feel a leadership battle coming on.

    By the way, can someone please tell me if it's true or not that TTT aka Tobias has now changed his name again? This time to Argietotheroot or something of that nature. WTF?

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    he's a dick joe

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    It is pathetic really the the Argentinian trolls keep changing their names with the hope that we will believe that there are more posters.

    We have more Argentinian posters pretending to live every where else but Argentina.

    TTT Cousins seem to be posting a lot.

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    Still, nobody can beat Sussie's record. Let's see if we can list them all:

    sussieUS
    2012
    Susanna Brown (I think)

    I can't remember them all but there are at least half a dozen more. Can we compile the list between us?

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LightThink

    of course
    you can compile the list !

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    @6 - He's the Aussie guy as well, exactly same style of writing as sussieUS.

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bacilus Hypolite

    The following is secret footage from the Argentine Air Force, just declassified by striking military officials, of a highly mysterious incident that ocurred in the very early morning hours of October 23 last year, just a few hours before election day. This is highly classified material the argentine government did not want the people to see!

    http://tu.tv/videos/doc-emmet-brown-viene-del-futuro-a-dar

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    I love this.... KFC and her corrupt government rob from their own country. stealing the bread out of the mouths of their own population strave the people and make others homeless because they have either lost their jobs or they arn't earning enough to pay the rent.

    Then they try to find someone to blame for the mess that THEY made in the first place.......... I won't say “I told you so” but I did tell you.

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Sounds like she got to replace military leaders from previous administrations with people she likes?

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    11 Ayayay

    She has already done that following on from 'Boss-eye' Nestors start.

    She also wants more women in charge of the military presumably they will be as competent as the present bunch of numb-nut females like the Trolley Dollie, et al.

    9 Bacilus Hypolite

    No, that's 'Back to the future'. What AG are desperately doing is 'Going back to 1833' to fight the Brit pirates!

    Still, if it keeps them happy.

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @6 There was a troll on the Daily Telegraph called Florry (short for Florencia) who had a remarkably similar style as SussieUS et al

    If this is the case, we might be getting closer to CFK than we could possibly imagine. So what's Maximo's handle?

    Sheer conjecture of course

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MaxAue

    Well, let's start mapping all the different identities of the Trolls. You can list them here, and why not try to find out who they are...could be KFC herself...no that's right, she doesn't speak English.

    http://www.facebook.com/TruthTellingTroll?fref=ts

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Tanks, Chris

    Are you saying Mr. & Mrs.President APPOINTED all the current heads of the military divisions?

    In the U.S., the heads of the Armed Forces are careers that span different admininstrations.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Chiefs_of_Staff

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 2012

    @3 Joe Blogs aka Self-Determination=british bulldog= greek yogurt

    Hey....I play the same game than the UK Team plays.....posting under many names....remember this web site is a Port-A-John...a contest to dump the biggest CRAP...and the UK Team said they are the winner...of the biggest CRAP contest!...............Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Another nice intellectual post 2012 AKA Sussie etc.

    As for dumping crap its easy for the UK posters since Argentina embarrasses itself daily........

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MaxAue

    I'm not a UK poster!

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 2012

    @ 2 YankeeNobody= Mrs Isolde= “vagina neck”
    Same in the USA, the Dept.of Treasury don't have enough to pay its debts....the gold reserves equal only 200 billons... not enough to pay 15 trillon foreing debt....
    17 Xect = Mrs. Isolde= “vagina neck”
    the dumping crap from UK starts from the UK “royals” UK Prince Harry Bare ARSE in Las Vegas and Prince William's wife Kathie...the one with thin TiTS, thin lips and half “vagina neck.”...Hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    why did we not send hooky hand to CFK .
    see some fun.

    still,
    new year , new leader , new future , new life.
    so they say,

    but we thinks CFK has other ideas ..

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Lol 2012 so I'm a cross dresser now? Funniest post of the day!

    And also followed up by the weakest retort ever! If thats all you've got then you are very desperate!

    Have fun 2012 with your hatred.

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“By the way, can someone please tell me if it's true or not that TTT aka Tobias has now changed his name again? This time to Argietotheroot or something of that nature. WTF?”“”

    I wonder if that is in response to my outing his account the other day?

    All these “different” authors sharing accounts, and then the same individuals cross-posting under other account names.

    You'd need to be an expert in Stylometry to spot them all...

    Oh! Hang on a mo....!

    ¬_¬

    Oct 06th, 2012 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    15 Ayayay

    They either appointed them or confirmed them in post when they took over.

    This is not unusual in many countries for obvious reasons.

    The last one if I remember correctly was the head of all the military who is a 'Malvinas Vet', an admiral who spent his time during the 'conflict', remember AG reckon it was not a war, sitting in a container looking at the air control radars.

    Oct 07th, 2012 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    19 HERE COMES THE FLYERS!!!!

    @19
    You drop half a grand on clothes, etc. monthly and are concerned about 7.65% Soc Sec & Medicare, really?
    You say you spend $900 on food for ONE person, really.

    Are they making these clothes from...circus tent material?
    Do you have four hooves and a trunk?
    Do you like a gourmet, upscale grocery store?

    THIS California wine won the PRESTIGIOUS double-gold: $2 aka Two Buck Chuck
    http://m.traderjoes.com/fearless-flyer/index.asp

    ♬ INVASION OF THE $10 WARDROBE
    Hipster Japanese chain Uniqlo sells their color skinny jeans on opening day! of their NYC flagship store;
    $10
    55 Arg pesos at light blue.
    $20 regular price.

    http://m.traderjoes.com/fearless-flyer/index.asp

    Organic, made-in-L.A., SEXY, fair-trade (Massage therapists with chairs are brought in for the seamstresses. Avg. wage: $12) are even better: American Apparel

    http://m.traderjoes.com/fearless-flyer/index.asp

    Oct 07th, 2012 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • PirateLove

    Another nail in her coffin, cant be many left now :)

    SELF-DETERMINATION!!

    Oct 07th, 2012 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    An Argentine Scape goat? Let me think;
    Argie Population: Better pay!!!!! Fair Right!!!!!
    Argie Government: Er...MALVINAS MALVINAS MALVINAS!!!!!
    Argie Population: Yes MALVINAS MALVINAS MALVINAS!!!!!
    UK/FI: Yawn

    Oct 07th, 2012 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Diddles

    Bye Bye Argentina.....an abyss awaits you.

    Seriously, back in the mid 1980's, our Australian government warned its people about the dangers of going down the Argentine road.....a road that led to high protection and a resulting very uncompetitive economy, an economy that could not provide a reasonable standard of living for the majority of its people. A Banana Republic was another term that our Labor Prime Minister of that time, Paul Keating termed it.....Today, Argentina certainly seems to be living up to those words of our former prime minister.

    But let's not talk about Argentina's real problems, as the Falklands is always a good distraction for our Malvinista amigos. Serious jokers, the Malvinistas and other Peronistas, as they lead Argentina down such a disastrous path.

    Oct 07th, 2012 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    To all Brits.

    Useful phrases to tell our Malvanista to help educate them in the truth.

    No hay Malvinas (there are no Malvinas)

    Falklands pertenecen a los isleños (Falklands belong to the islanders)

    We could move onto other phrases that would also help educate the mentally challenged AGs!

    All in the spirit of information dissemination you understand. :o)

    Oct 07th, 2012 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Its bad enough, when she Thinks,, she knows what she is doing,

    It’s even worse when her devotees think it great.

    She is in fact, piece by piece stripping Argentina of all its wealth, and pride.

    Then blame it on others,

    Shame, the true Argentineans just can’t see it.

    Still,
    The time will come, when even CFK has to meet with her maker ..
    .

    Oct 07th, 2012 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • you are not first

    briton,

    My dear servant, do not worry much about Argentina's poverty. Still is a bigger country with unique culture and sovereign. You are too far from that. Or you still believe in UK as a nation? just look what your queen's and her family does to all of you second class citizen do. are you part of the family too ?

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    @ 30

    What??????

    What does the queen and her family do? Explain please for our entertainment!

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    30 you are not first
    back to bed old boy,

    we have what you want,
    and you aint getting it,

    at least our queen wears the real thing, unlike your plastic queen.lol.

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Back on topic:
    ”As they have entered the sixth consecutive day of preotests, Coast Guard and Border Guard officers said the government is trying to weaken their claims for a minimum salary of 7,000 pesos, after the government yesterday suspended at least five non-commissioned Border Guard officers who took part in the protest.
    Likewise, Maza alleged that the authorities “breached the agreement” as they had assured there would be no retaliation for the demonstrations.”

    “There was a verbal accord with the (Economy) Minister Hernán Lorenzino and the Border Guard director General (later removed), Enrique Schenone that no retaliation measures would be taken against any staff. That was the main point of a list of demands we gave the minister,” he added.” BsAs Herald

    And he expects the government to stick to their assurances?

    Next course of action? Pistol fire outside Casa Rosada methinks.

    LOL

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gustbury

    These are our internal problems, Brits are an external problem!!Thats the diference!!!

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    34 bury-guts

    Ever heard the term 'busted guts'. Invariably fatal unless you have a good hospital to hand (that's you dead then) and comes about from too many internal problems. That's the rest of you dead then.

    Clocks ticking to the final melt-down. Won't be long now!

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    A bit like the falklands then....

    These are our internal problems, Argies are an external problem!!Thats the diference!!!

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TipsyThink

    Britain has no chancé against North Korea is -- 4th-- big army has 1200000 military pérsonals while Britain is --28 th- bíg ármy has ònly 200000 militáry pérsonals.

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @37 Am I missing something here?

    Where did Kim Jong Un come into it? Maybe he and Maximo have been sharing a few burgers and cream buns!

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    the size of an army is irrelevent in the face of expirence.

    in the korean war, china put over a million men over the yellow river,
    did it win them the war..

    Oct 08th, 2012 - 10:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hammerhead993

    Maybe one of you posted it and I missed it, but don't forget SussieUS is also known as “preciosa”. Quite humble...

    Oct 09th, 2012 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    “But the secretary-general of the powerful CGT umbrella union Hugo Moyano, assured that “it is ridiculous” to label the protest over Border and Coast Guard wages a coup or an attack on democratic institutions”

    Wouldn't be the first time the old Lopez Vega acolyte supported an attack on democratic institutions though would it? Thois right wing union baron makes me particularly angry as he uses trade unionism to undermine the left and the workers' cause, I hope the class show him the door and elect someone who understands solidarity!

    Btw, “government looks for scapegoats”, biased headline anyone??

    #13 Doubt it, Flor looks like a sweet well brought up girl, with Cristina as her mother she would be well brought up wouldn't she, plus suzy comes across a lot older

    Oct 15th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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