MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Brazil wants Paraguay back in Mercosur following “democracy compliance” test
Brazilian Foreign minister Antonio Patriota said on Friday that Paraguay could resume membership of Mercosur and Unasur without the need to wait for presidential elections next April 2013 as long as “full compliance with democracy” can be verified. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“Almagro underlined that Mercosur was going through its “best political moment” because of the shared position of country members in deciding the suspension of Paraguay and the incorporation of Venezuela as full member.”
Oct 06th, 2012 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Figuring that Mercosur was not designed as a political bloc, I think Almagro got it right that this is the best political moment of Mercosur. It only further shows that the trading initiatives of the bloc are gone.
Mercopress didn't mention it but Paraguay has decided to not increase any of its tariffs; this goes against the regional tide where Brazil has increased tariffs in some 300 items and well we don't need to mention Argentina. Actually Paraguay is looking at further cutting back import restrictions.
The “word” for Paraguay. Stay away from mercosur. A federation of dictatorships. Go with the Pacific Alliance!
Oct 06th, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mercosur is only an economic organization not political regimes organization.
Oct 06th, 2012 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 And if you believe this faggot, you'll believe anything!
Oct 06th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 small point of order
Oct 06th, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Paraguay is landlocked
Paraguay will remain with Mercosur because we benefit greatly with trade with Brazil. The unofficial trade is also massive, most likely bigger than the official trade. Take marijuana, Paraguay is the second largest producer in the world; clearly none of that is reported.
Oct 06th, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 & 2 - Paraguay should remain in the bloc because the socialistic models don't work and eventually these countries will return back to sensible policies. In the meantime Paraguay will remain the hold out with open free borders. But yes we should be joining every trade bloc in the world right now, and we can because we are suspended from Mercosur. Pacific Alliance would be a good start.
Apart from Paraguay the rest of the members of Mercosur (including Uruguay I am very sorry to say) are a bunch of desperate lefties shit scared something like that will happen in their own country.
Oct 07th, 2012 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Pepe and Almagro are not careful it might just happen.
It seems already under way in AG.
If we are really lucky it may happen tomorrow in Venezuela.
Excellent idea of Brazil. Just Paraguay is going to elections, check how democracy is functioning now. Perhaps this man Franco is choosen again or not in april, but there will be democracy.
Oct 07th, 2012 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The problem was that Lugo didnt dennounced the political judge was wrong. That was a big mistake, he wad hours to get defended.
But in the continent, problems and conflicts are resolved by ourselves. And that is great, great. After seeing so much situations in Africa and Middle east, where foreigner countries come with criminal no solutions.
My thought is that Paraguay is very skeptical on H.Chávez who could be a US tool in Latin America.
Oct 07th, 2012 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They could be right on where Venezuela has some 23,5 $ billions money in US banks.
The people of Uruguay (as opposed to the government) are extremely ashamed of the treatment afforded Paraguay by the other three Mercosur members' leaders in a closed-door meeting. If you have any doubts, just have a look at the readers' remarks in any of the Uruguayan newspapers and the statements of opposition leaders. The subsequent inclusion of Venezuela in Mercosur is irregular and illegal.
Oct 07th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's a lie ynsere, you don't speak for the Uruguayan people. You don't even know the colour of the yerba mate...
Oct 07th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#8 - Franco is not allowed to run for election and he has no intentions to do so. Before the impeachment he was obviously looking to run, but the constitution doesn't permit him to do so.
Oct 07th, 2012 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#11 - Most people from Mercosur have no problem with Venezuela being part of Mercosur, but we do have an issue with Hugo Chavez. The current system has made Venezuela Hugo's little playground and ATM machine. So most people are aware of what is going on and refuse to be a part of his grand plan. Look, clearly Paraguay didn't allow Hugo into Mercosur, but that is the way the constitution of Mercosur was written. Change it if you must but don't just blantanly break your own rules, it is pathetic.
Both you and me know how Mercosur works, and that the small Paraguayan oligarchy should stand in the way for what the people want is a shame. You could have done things better, my dear Parguayan brother. Instead of working together with the people, you work against them and blaim Chavez. Venezuela entered Mercosur, not Chavez.
Oct 07th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha Ha Latin Americans pointing fingers at one another claiming to know what Democracy is when barely 30 years ago they were all fucking dictatorships.
Oct 07th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14
Oct 07th, 2012 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what do European know about it? You were dictatorships for the better part of the last 2000 years... The last people to talk about it is you. Remember, no one respects a European (includes a Brit).
How extremely generous of them!
Oct 08th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0So Paraguay will be forgiven for being right all along... As long as they don't protest the morally rotten admission of Venezuela into Mercosur that is.
Guzz @ 11
Oct 08th, 2012 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0“El ladrón piensa que son todos de su condición”.
Funny that you, of all people, should talk about lies. I suggest you come to Uruguay and speak to people in the street, but then of course you're not a Uruguayan and may never have been here. Or perhaps you can have a look at readers' comments in the newspapers. Do you really think that the majority of Uruguayans are Argentine toadies, or celebrating the killings committed by the Tupamaros (or anyone else)? I stand by what I said in my post No. 10.
What I do know is that a vast majority votes for lista 609 :)
Oct 08th, 2012 - 05:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz @ 18
Oct 08th, 2012 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0So? A person voting for Lista 609 is not necessarily an Argentine toadie or proud of all of the Tupamaro's deeds before the dictatorship. In fact I know many who voted for this list in the last elections, and I can't think of a single one who is. People who celebrate murders committed by the Tupamaros are so far left that they have been excluded from the Frente Amplio coalition, and have no parliamentary representation due to their small numbers. But even they are not Argentine lickspittles.
19 ynsere
Oct 08th, 2012 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even Pepe has expressed his shame and regret at the killings, perhaps he has matured in his old age.
Guzz
You DO NOT speak for all Uruguayans, NONE of my friends (I have 17) are at all happy with the disgraceful treatment of Paraguay and all of them want Pepe out because of his brown-nosing TMBOA arse.
There, no doubt you will have a go at me now. It seems of late, your only response. Perhaps when you mature you will see things like a rational person.
ChrisR @ 20
Oct 08th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0True. In fact several of what we call “Traditional Tupamaros” (i.e. people who actually risked their lives and were exiled and/or imprisoned and tortured, as opposed to those who jumped on the bandwagon when the danger had passed) have expressed regret about some of the MLN-Tupamaro's worst excesses. However they have never apologised for rising up against a democratic government and having brought about the dictatorship. And, back to the article, even some members of the government have expressed their shame about Mercosur's treatment of Paraguay, party discipline notwithstanding. I insist: the great majority of Uruguayans are against what CFK, Dilma and Mujica did to Paraguay after that mysterious closed-door meeting.
@15 Arifu Gobakuwi
Oct 09th, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Steady on Sir I will remind you that we in Europe have experienced democracy for the bulk of our history while LatAM has only just got it (sought of) any Europe is the birth place of modern democracy so I think we know a thing all too.
There really is no actual democracy in the world; all those countries are representatives. Democracy has the real threat of mob rule like you see in populist countries thus a representative government is preferred. P
Oct 09th, 2012 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0ynsere: Its no good replying to Guzz, holed up in Denmark. He is an anarchist, I dont agree with Pepe but he is our president and our democratic tradition means we are stuck with him. My nieghbour was a Tupamaro and spent twelve years in a military prison. They sterilised him. But when he was freed, a lot of us,not of his political persuasion, helped him to get back on his feet again. And no snide comments Guzz. We did it because he was a fellow human being needing help
Oct 09th, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Instinctively I would be against letting Paraguay back before April, but maybe this concession will help make the election fair for the Lugoist left? Seeing as this is a Brazilian announcement, does anyone know what Cristina's position on this is? She was the best fighter against the coup when it happened after all, Churchillian in her defence of democracy...
Oct 15th, 2012 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Churchillian? She get her cigars from Cuba?Fighter against what coup?
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