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South America solid behind Argentina’s Falklands’ claim at UN decolonization meeting
The opening session of the UN Fourth Committee on decolonisation was dominated by a joint verbal assault on Britain by South American countries over the issue of the Falkland Islands. One after another, representatives of governments in the region called on the UK to enter into dialogue with Argentina over the sovereignty of the Islands, which are claimed by the government in Buenos Aires. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesArgentina's like a broken record, a shite one too.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How is your eye mr brutish? Lol we do not accept a colony in south America we hope UK can let their citizens back in as they claim they will, UK should respect the rights of Americans before claiming rights over our nations. Thanks and don't call us we will call you.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Oct 10th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It' s just words......
Nothing to worry about...
Nothing at all.... Please go back to sleep.
I do wish the British Government would point out that the history of the Islands didn't start in 1833 as the Argentinian government likes to portray.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This needs to be rebutted every time it is brought up.
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Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course South America is “solid”. Solid between the ears. Not that they use their ears much. Too busy gabbing. Under international law, the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. By virtue of landing, settlement, prior claim, occupation and unti possidetis. Uti possidetis (Latin for “as you possess”) is a principle in international law that territory and other property remains with its possessor at the end of a conflict. In addition to all other bases, did Britain fight a war in 1982? Did it win? Was Britain in possession of the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands when the argies surrendered? It was. So f*** off South America. Do we have to beat the sh*te out of every one of you? Quite easy really. Faced by a hostile continent, the UK has every justification for using its nuclear missiles to protect its territory. Wake up, South America. Argieland is lying. It always lies. We know it. You know it. And we will fight to the death. Whose death? Yours! We cannot be bullied. And, at the end of the day, you mean nothing to us!
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try not to laugh:
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://allafrica.com/stories/201210091203.html
Speaking on behalf of the south Latin American countries (Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay and Venezuela), Ambassador of Peru to the UN Mr. Enrique Roman-Morey underlined that these countries ”strongly support efforts of the Secretary General and his Personal Envoy to reach a just, lasting and mutually acceptable political solution, which will provide for the self-determination of the people of Western Sahara in the context of arrangements compatible with the principles and purposes of the UN Charter and Resolution 1514 (XV) of the General Assembly and other pertinent resolutions.”
It's hard to imagine a committee of members set up to discuss decolonization admitting that their are no more issues to discuss.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's like Turkeys voting for Christmas
“To allow the British population on the Islands to become the arbitrator of a dispute to which their own country...”
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Their own country.
It would be cheaper to have the referendum in reserve as a plan for what we would do if Argentina ever got their hands on the Falklands.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then we definitely would be a 'dominated, subjugated and dominated population', and we would have nothing in common with our colonisers. The UN would recognise our independence. Job done.
Same old, same old.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Londinium is italiana, basta brittunculi. Give it back to the founders of your city.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#2
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no “British” colony in S.A The Falklands are not in S.A. - They are in the South Atlantic - look at a MAP !!
The Argentine is certainly a colony unless the original inhabitants decided to change their features and start speaking Spanish.
Spanish, the native language of Spain !!!!!
We Argetines support a nuclear defence program in Argentine to end the threat of illegal occupation by 3000 illegal white people turning Antartica into a weaponized area and a threat to pease in south America. UK should let their citizens back to their homeland as they claim to be British and not americans,. Go back to Ukistan and take the Falkland island corporate with you.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#6 ISLAS MALVINAS ARGENTIN? FOR EVER!! As long as the enemy is alive all we need is will and determination to fight, even if we have to execute one thieve at a time. You may carry the watches but we have the time.
Not to worry folks its just the meaningless and powerless decolonization committee crazies screaming from the roof once more.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its widely accepted the decolonization committee is worthless, hence the reason all important and powerful countries have effectively withdrawn from it.
Another pointless waste of oxygen.
14... It's not though is it...the union flag and Falklands flag fly high over Stanley and its ours Jajajajajajaja same old same old
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argetines?
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://webtv.un.org/watch/fourth-committee-3rd-meeting-67th-general-assembly/1889626362001
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trust me you want to watch this. The Spaniard rambles on for a bit first but I wonder if he knew what was coming when the leader of Gibraltar began to speak. That is the biggest bitch slap i've ever heard in the UN. He could be a poster on here.
hahaha..if the argies ever achieve to build a nuclear weapon it would blow in their hands.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everything made in Argentina is dodgy crap that is either already broken when you buy it from a shop as new or breaks in couple of months.
Soon there will be no imported stuff at all and it will be hilarious when everything falls apart..industria Argentina...nacional. ..hecho en argentina. ..Buahahahahaaa!!!!
I don't really understand why Argentinian posters keep talking about nuclear weapons, its not like we've ever threatened to use them!
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its our conventional forces they need to watch out for and if Argentina ever did somehow get and use a nuclear weapon on the Falkland's the fallout would kill a lot of Argentinian people, although this is irrelevant as the UK would obviously retaliate which would be the end of Argentina for good.
It's all a bit silly really...
Argentine? Good, got a question. How much food relief does UNASUR or Argentina give beyond it's borders? Extra bonus points for saying where (:
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry. The comment I left at 6 should have read:
Oct 10th, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course South America is “solid”. Solid between the ears. Not that they use their ears much. Too busy gabbing. Under international law, the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands are BRITISH. By virtue of landing, settlement, prior claim, occupation and uti possidetis. Uti possidetis (Latin for “as you possess”) is a principle in international law that territory and other property remains with its possessor at the end of a conflict. In addition to all other bases, did Britain fight a war in 1982? Did it win? Was Britain in possession of the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands when the argies surrendered? It was. So f*** off South America. Do we have to beat the sh*te out of every one of you? Quite easy really. Faced by a hostile continent, the UK has every justification for using its nuclear missiles to protect its territory. Wake up, South America. Argieland is lying. It always lies. We know it. You know it. And we will fight to the death. Whose death? Yours! We cannot be bullied. And, at the end of the day, you mean nothing to us! Want a list of people and countries that thought they could bully us? Start with Philip II of France. A number of wars. Then Philip II of Spain. He of the Spanish Armada. The Dutch sometime or another. Napoleon and France. Nicholas I and Russia. Kaiser Wilhelm and Germany. Hitler and Nazi Germany. Mussolini and Italy. Galtieri and argieland. They all LOST!
Sorry about that.
@14 What illegal white population? The 86.4% of the argie population. “Pease” pudding? What about argie “faggots”? Aren't all argies “faggots”? Genocidal, nazi, cowardly, faggots. Is there an argie that doesn't deserve to be executed? Think about it. All the scum that supported Galtieri. All the scum that support the Kirchners. Who thinks the world needs argies? Answers on the back of a small postage stamp.
yep, they look white to me, or not exactly white, where i come from people are really blonde, so if a argie would come to my country, he would be mistaken as a arab most likely. But yes, they are originally from the old continent. Spain, Italy, Syria, Lebanon etc..
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way if u ever happen to travel in deep south of SA, don't take bus made in argentina. When i was traveling there i took three times a brand new looking double deck bus, Argetinian brand, made in Rosario, AND EVERY SINGLE TIME there was a engine failure and the bus started roaming about 20km/h ffffuuuuucckkk!! then we had to wait for a rescue bus...and there it was, the star, Mercedes Benz, ahh, wundebarrr, über alles...
slow news day was it?
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's the only reason I can think of for printing this story........
By the way, did you know that the bloke who lives next door to me is 95 tomorrow?
and he still lives with his mum an dad!!
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Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A-u-s-t-e-r-i-t-y :)
We could, but we wont,
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the british will sit back and just get on with it,
after all, what can the WHOLE of south America do but TALK .
bla bla bla, ..
Idlehands how far in is the spaniard can't be arsed to listen to the rest of the drivel, love the Unasur stance on self determination for western sahara, double standards anyone, don't they think before they spout this shite another own goal, western sahara can have self determination but not the FI, dickheads all
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BRAVOOOOO! A little reminder every now and then will eventually plug the empty space between their ears and they will hear what the world has been telling them. ABIDE BY THE UN RESOLUTIONS! ABIDE BY INTERNATIONAL LAW!
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pay your debts sussie, when YOU rgenweeners stick to the rules people might start taking you seriously now trot on street side honey
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0they will hear what the world has been telling them. ABIDE BY THE UN RESOLUTIONS! ABIDE BY INTERNATIONAL LAW!
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...........................................................
are you listening, argentina , co.CFK
18 Idlehands
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've been there and done that albeit in a different committe and very different subject matter but nonetheless a UN committee and trust me when I say he better have taken sweets to the translation room after that lot. The ladies would've been knackered. I always give them a couple of packs of Wine Gums or similar and they love you for it.
how far in is it joe
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess it's getting onto 8 or 9 minutes. Not sure, I didn't time it.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina lost the islands, accept it. They lost, period. Fathom trying to but the borders of the world as they were in 1833 as Argentina so desires. Well Argentina and Brazil can start out by returning what they conquered from Paraguay during the Triple Alliance War.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if Argentina and Hugo will invade the islands. It seems like they really are planning for it. Interesting to see what happens.
The post modernist bullhockey from Estreme is hilarious.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A colonial “situation” but not a colonial “people” (because situations have rights, not people, I guess - then again, it IS the UN, individual rights mean nothing there). “To allow the British population on the Islands to become the arbitrator of a dispute to which their own country is a party distorts the right of self determination of peoples ***because there is not a people subject to the subjugation, domination or exploitation of a colonial power.***” What then, should a neutral party, like the Lower Buvlakistaniis vote on behalf of the Falkand Islanders “true conscience”? Or would Estreme rather have a small committee handpicked by CFK vote for them.
I don't know if the translators were crying or laughing so hard their drinks shot out their noses.
It's clear that the Argentines are absolutely terrified of the referendum. Good heavens! The people who have the most skin in this game wanting a vote -- and a vote that will likely never be for them. I bet they are wishing every night that the Junta had disappeared all of those pesky free-thinking Islanders in 1982 when they had the chance.
Wow that was a real slap on the tits, everything he said was also relevent to the Falkland Islands, perhaps our rg trolls should watch it, starts at about 7 mins in
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here we go again, Chori Tetra Queen and her gang of gayboys screaming again about the Falklands. It's funny that Kretina keeps going on about this even though her country Argentina is crumbling around her. And her cabinet of ministers are also a bunch of screaming queens, they are all closet gays, like most men in Argenitna, they love to swing both ways. If you are straight in Argentina it's amazing how the guys all look at each other's crotches as you walk in the street, they are always trying to grab your buttcheeks, and if you shake an Argentine guys hand they always squeeze extra hard and then rub a finger in the middle of your palm. Nothing wrong wtih being gay, but I don't know who is taking care of the Argentine women since the guys are all doing each other? Maybe that is why the women are all so bitchy, we call them mal atendidas.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 036 Slattzzz
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Entertaining wasn't it. It's worth listening to though and the Spanish guy is worth a listen to as well.
listened to his rambling as well
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, this was the dumbest stuff I've heard all afternoon -- and I work at a university. Bertrand Russell call your office.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“South America solid behind Argentina’s Falklands’ claim at UN decolonization meeting”....and it will get more solid with time. Cope with it.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“South America solid behind Argentina’s Falklands’ claim at UN decolonization meeting”
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the meantime... Difficult time comming for the British.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An8_XHW7m8c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An8_XHW7m8c
South America giving lip service to Rgenweener once again sussie that's all, when the shit hits the fan you'll be on your own, not that it will bother you, your in the US sponging off them.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If I was the UK official I would have thrown Estreme 20 pence and told him to give someone a call who gives a fcuk.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What do they want to negotiate? They want the Falklands, plain and simple and we are not going to give it to them so that's the end of it as far as he UK are concerned. There doesn't seem to be a thing Argentina can do about it.
Maybe the UK need to mention the fact that these isles were charted and claimed by the UK way before these uninvited criminals were thrown off of them.
@42 and we are doing something about it hence our AAA rating, not burying our head in the sand. You'll be glad to hear our defence budget deficit has been wiped out and 14 new frigates should start being built shortly, 4 new astute subs finishing off shortly and the aircraft carriers are coming along nicely, new F35 fighters testing underway and going well, and the last batch of typhoons will be delivered shortly, how's your economy doing :)
Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@45 slatzzz
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice one but at least argentina managed to give their planes a new coat of paint!
45 slattzzz (#)
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are not threatening all of South America Aren't you?
41 ProRG_American
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know, I think we will. Cope with it, that is.
Of course the British response is swift, it only has two variants:
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0* “We have no doubts about our rights”
* “The wishes of the islanders are paramount”
Anyone can be a diplomat like that LOL
Obviously tas usual the British are the neighborhood thugs. No worry. SA to big for you to handle. If you want to attack do so now. Before it is too late. Rg and Brazil Nuke subs on the way. Go ahead send one, SA will reposnd in kind. I love the way this is going.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 049 PGH
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, they'll keep saying it until you show some sign of having understood it.
When is UNASUR scheduled to have the landmines removed from the borders?
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SA to big for you to handle.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[you cant even handle Ghana ]
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Before it is too late. Rg and Brazil Nuke subs on the way.
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Brazilian subs, and that’s decades away,
But if brazil is stupid enough to allow argentina to influence its military prowess,
Then she will end up like you,
Whistling on a dream boat..
Lets face facts here,
All you have done for 30 odd years it talk,
All you are doing now is talk.
And all you will do, is talk.
Prove us wrong..lol.
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ProRg
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nobody in the UK is going to attack anybody in SA, you know that. And the talk of nukes, whoever started it in this thread, is utter tosh.
The only think we will do is defend the Falklands, and I hope nobody in SA initiates the aggression. That's the reality of it, nothing more.
Monty69, have you noted how the article is titled “South America solid behind Argentina’s Falklands’ claim at UN decolonization meeting” but the first 7 paragraphs focus on the British response? Weird, uh? It makes the article difficult to follow, and the whole picture confusing.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I guess bias mutilates a journalist's abilities...
@ PGH
Oct 10th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You`re right. I`ve noticed that too. But not suprised comming from Falkland Press.
Maybe they should have titled the note “UK reitirates its firm desicion to maintain control of Malvinas defending the inaplicable and distortioned self-determination of inslander fishermen”
56 Islas Malvinas
Oct 10th, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0fishermen? Where did you get that from? I'm not a fisherman. I don't even know any fishermen. And why would a fisherman have less right to self determination than anyone else?
comming from Falkland Press.
Oct 10th, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0was it from the falklands press.
@57 ... uh that would be because you have what certified smart people call a “False Consciousness” according to Estreme (no really, that was the ONLY thing missing from his bizarre goings on about the inauthenticity of the referendum and how it demonstrated the lack of self-determination that the Islanders “truly” have). You really not only want to be a fishmerman in your Authethentic Malvinan Heart-of-Hearts, you also still wish to be under the gentle loving helicopter dropping arms of the Junta. And you probably really want to be called Jolene (I wont' judge, you live that dream!).
Oct 10th, 2012 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0*yawn*
Oct 10th, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0New year, same shite. The decolonisation committee is almost as comically irrelevant in the grand scheme of things as Argentina.
Come back and try again when you take your lies to a forum with some legislative power. In the meanwhile we'll get on with the business of allowing our citizens to decide what to do with their future and their land.
The typical English hypocrisy and hopeless: “The UK, attaches great importance to self-determination” ....... people of Saxon descent (as the current population of the Malvinas), should be added to be more honest. It asked the Argentine settlers in 1833 if they wanted to be usurped, the Hindus if they wanted to be colonized, the Chagossians if they would be tortured and expelled, the Boers in South Africa led to the concentration camps, the aborigines of Australia hunted as kangaroos and driven inland, to Buenos Aires (Argentina) in 1806 and 1807 .... to ..... to ..... to, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., let alone attacks on civilians in the Balkans in 1999 .... (same NATO that we have in the Malvinas).
Oct 11th, 2012 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0“said the UK had no doubt about its sovereignty over the Malvinas Islands and its surrounding islets and waters” says this guy, see:
“It is not at all clear to me that we never ever held sovereignty over these islands”, Duke of Wellington, Prime Minister, 1829.
“The British occupation of 1833 was at the time an act of wanton aggression”, Memorandum of the British Foreign Office official, 1946.
“The only question was who had the best claim as we are attaching for the first time the islands. I think undoubtedly were the United Provinces of Buenos Aires”, Ronald Campbell, secretary of foreign affairs, 1911.
“Sitting down hard on the islands and avoid talking to the Argentines, because we could not sustain our arguments in court”, legal counsel for the Foreign Office, Gerald Fitzmaurice, 1936.
“Britain fully recognizes the sovereignty of the Argentine public authorities on the territories in which proclaim their jurisdiction...”, Treaty of Peace, Friendship and Trade between Argentina and Great Britain, 1825, (after the Argentina take possession, 1820).
“If you carefully read the memorandum of December 1910, surely must have realized that Argentina's attitude is not ridiculous or childish. I had assumed that our right to the Malvinas Islands was irrefutable. This is far fr
61 José Malvinero
Oct 11th, 2012 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not 'Saxon'. I'm half Irish and half St Helenian and my partner's Chilean. What was your point, again?
The Duke of where? 1910, you say? And what has this to do with me?
Are you wanting me to be treated like the Chagossians were, or not? It's hard to tell.
“If you carefully read the memorandum of December 1910, surely must have realized that Argentina's attitude is not ridiculous or childish. I had assumed that our right to the Malvinas Islands was irrefutable. This is far from being the case”, Sir Malcolm Robertson, ambassador to Argentina, 1927.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0“While the Committee believes that the historical evidence is finely balanced, we are forced to conclude that the weight of evidence argues for the position of Argentine bonds to the islands, at least the eastern islands, which was, while the British occupation in 1833, more substance than it was or is accepted by government officials in the UK. In this conclusion we are supported not only by the evidence we were given during the investigation but also by doubts on this matter were repeatedly expressed by British officials during the early part of the century”, Committee on Foreign Affairs of the House of Commons, in 1982.
It must be hard for the UK not to have any friends in this region of the world backing them up....
Oct 11th, 2012 - 12:37 am - Link - Report abuse 063 José Malvinero
Oct 11th, 2012 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Goodness me, how you do get excited over a country where people are allowed to have a different opinion, and speak it without fear. Your reporting one side of a debate is utterly meaningless. It works like this; someone speaks on one side, then someone speaks on the other side, and a consensus is reached. We know what that was in 1982.
The day you show me evidence of someone speaking in your parliament in 1982 against the government I might start getting interested.
And!!!!!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still no change to the current situation, still no RG flag limply hanging from a pole, still no strategy, still no idea, still no world support!
I'd suggest coming up with a plan of action!
66 brit abroad
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously, all that means England (the pirates) is force.
@ José Malvinero: clap, clap, clap.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 068 Islas Malvinas,
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks, to these people (the “piratones”) must continually remind the truth!
Reading the comments of the forum “British” to say that the Falklands should have the highest rate in the world resentful. Never in any other forum I read so much hate as I read here. Above are few and there are fewer (have a smaller population than they had in 2006) only transpire resentment, if frustrated islanders so sorry, we blame for Argentina to be an endangered species! Argentina will never use force to recover the islands, one must wait for them all die because that is exactly what will happen! You or your children want to live there .. I pity!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0A British once wrote:
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Is the 60 million strong British bulldog really being wagged by its miniscule Falklands tail- or more precisely a hair on the tail, given that there are only 3,140( 2,563) Falklanders? In the 21st Century, can a European power hide its colonial claim to the oil resources under the sea bed of South America by sheltering behind the 'rights' of its colonists?
Britain must go, and in the end it will have to go; the issue is one of how and when”
A bunch of disabled sex offenders bitching about the beautiful neighbour's fierce rottweiler.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0When Argentina invaded the Falkland Islands in April 1982, these same countries declared the UK to be the agressor.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0- - -
@ 28 ProRG_American
“ABIDE BY THE UN RESOLUTIONS! ABIDE BY INTERNATIONAL LAW!”
You are refering to BINDING UN Resolution 502, of 3 April 1982 (resolution text: http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION/GEN/NR0/435/26/IMG/NR043526.pdf?OpenElement )
which
”1. Demands an immediate cessation of hostilities;
2. Demands an immediate withdrawal of all Argentine forces from the Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas);”
Argentina did not abide by this BINDING resolution, then why should the UK abide by the NON-binding resolutions?
@ 61 José Malvinero
Oct 11th, 2012 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0““It is not at all clear to me that we never ever held sovereignty over these islands”, Duke of Wellington, Prime Minister, 1829.”
This is taken out of context, he continued:
“That which I would recommend is that the government of Buenos [Ayres] should be very quietly but very distinctly informed that His Majesty has claims upon Falklands Islands and that His Majesty will not allow of any settlement upon, or any cession to, individuals or foreign nations of these islands by Buenos Ayres, which shall be inconsistent with the King’s acknowledged right of sovereignty.
I think that this is all that can be done at present. It will have the effect of impeding any settlement or cession by Buenos Ayres and as we may suppose that the French and Americans will hear of this communication they will not be disposed to act in contravention to it unless determined upon a quarrel with this country.”
It is very boring to have to reiterate this again and again.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0As we all know, the dispute was settled in the 1850 peace treaty, wherein Argentina ceded the Falkland Islands to Britain.
“VII. Under this convention perfect friendship between her Britannic Majesty’s government and the government of the Confederation, is restored to its former state of good understanding and cordiality.”
Only one islands is mentioned in the treaty: Martin Garcia in the Rio Uruguay delta.
This was later confirmed by two Argentine presidents and an Argentine vice president.
President Bartolomé Mitre 1865: “… no ha habido sino motivos para consolidar las relaciones amistosas que existen entre éste y aquellos gobiernos.” http://constitucionweb.blogspot.com.ar/2010/09/mensaje-del-presidente-de-la-republica_5176.html (Source: Heraclio Mabragaña, “Los Mensajes 1810-1910”, Buenos Aires 1910, vol. III, p. 227).
President Domingo Faustino Sarmiento: “El estado de nuestras relaciones exteriores responde á las aspiraciones del país. Nada nos reclaman las otras Naciónes: nada tenemos que pedir de ellas, sino es la continuación de las manifestaciones de simpatía con que de parte de pueblos y gobiernos ha sido favorecida la República por sus progresos y espíritu de justicia.” (Heraclio Mabragaña, “Los Mensajes 1810-1910”, Buenos Aires 1910, vol. III, pag. 286, which can be found in Biblioteca Nacional de la República Argentina, Agüero 2502, Recoleta, Buenos Aires, Argentina)
Vice-president Marcos Paz 1866: “Este mismo gobierno [británico] aceptó por árbitro al Presidente de la República de Chile, sobre perjuicios sufridos por súbditos ingleses en 1845. Aun no se ha resuelto esta cuestión que es la única que con aquella nación subsiste.” http://constitucionweb.blogspot.com.ar/2010/09/mensaje-del-presidente-de-la-republica_5176.html (Original source: Heraclio Mabragaña, “Los Mensajes 1810-1910”, Buenos Aires 1910, vol. III, pag. 238)
Yep arrrrggggh me is a pirates and ye aint getting any of me booty, with or without your Sa friends help!!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hurts dont it when there is nothing you can do about it? As i said before.....you have no strategy, so no outcome! I feel sorry for you lot having to post on topics that wont change......harharhar, pieces of eight says me parrot -
Long live the peaceful falklanders and their sheep, down with the wannabe RG empire
By ratifying the Arana Southern Treaty between Argentina and Great Britain in 1850 Argentina clearly renounced all its pretensions to sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. Paragraph 7 of this treaty makes that very clear.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina cannot reverse this determination.
This is just the standard “we back argentina because we are all the products of colonialism and want to make ourselves stand out as independent countries opposed to our former masters or their ilk”.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are still playing out in their minds the struggles of independence from the early 1800s. For them it was an heroic age, and they could do no wrong.
The fact that Spain, let alone Argentina, never had full control of the islands, as we also had a claim, will not enter into their heads.
European = wrong, South American = right is the only view they will entertain.
Most of these countries are simply going through the motions. We may as well move on as this proclomation actually proves nothing about the right or wrong of the Argentinan or our claims.
Love how all the dumbasses keep going “herp derp it's a colony!” even when their own beloved C24 says it's not a colony and thus not a decolonisation issue.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0They've been saying “GB will have to go in the end” for the past 180 years, and they'll keep saying it for the next 180 years.
They stopped saying it in 1850 and only resumed their silly demands in 1940 - 90 years of silence. And then Perón started all over again. Nonsense!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn...... Deva ju.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@49 You're getting the hang of this.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes - that's exactly how it works
There's nothing to negotiate - especially when the other party has sovereignty of the Falklands enshrined in their constitution. Where is the “negotiation” in that?
Nothing has changed, nothing will change.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Negotiation as I understand it, is more or less:
Oct 11th, 2012 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0I give something and you give something and I get something and you get something and in the end we reach an agreement.
What can Argentina offer, which the Falkland Islanders want?
As seen from a Falkland Islanders’ point of view, the Argentine idea is “we get the islands and you get a completely erratic government, cleptomaniac politicians, lots of corruption, mismanagement, a much lower standard of living, high inflation, a possible future dictatorship as Argentina is used to … – what more can you want?”
What can Argentina offer, which the Falkland Islanders want?
malvinistas,
Oct 11th, 2012 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0ready for round 3?
thieves, cretins, cowards & liars.
@78 shb (#)
Oct 11th, 2012 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:58 am
For instance. Another war between the UK and Argentina would be a win win situation for Argentinas 'supporters'.
War is bad for business. Argentina never really did recover from thier military adventurism of 1982 and psychologically they are never likely to get over it. Economically and politically they have been retarded and another war would probably finish the job.
Of course it wouldn't do the UK any good either but likewise, backing down would be even worse for Britain but for the rest of South America outside of Argentina? So long as they can avoid the inevitable political aftermath then a terminally fucked Argentina and a further economically weakened UK would only be a good thing.
I think my favourite aspect of this verbal arse kicking contest is how the Malvinistas give out the shit in shovel fulls then cry foul when the same shit is hurled right back at them. It sums up the Argentinian claim to me and Malvinistas in general. They can give it but they can't take it.
@61
Oct 11th, 2012 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It asked the Argentine settlers in 1833 if they wanted to be usurped”
Captain Onslow DID ask them if they wanted to stay, only four civilians asked to leave (Brazilians and Uruguayans).
So the civilians were happy with British Rule in 1833.
Your post suggests this but I suspect it is sarcastic.
Do you find it suprising that these proto Argentines (Argentina was not a state until the 1850s, another point you repeatedly ignore), chose British rule when the military authorites (usually synchronous with law and order) rebelled ripping the guts out of their commmander and raping his wife in front of his children?
You need to bone up on your history che instesd of loistening to the brainwashing you get at school-clearly a throwback to the ideas Peron picked up from Uncle Adolf and Uncle Benito during the 1940s
@ 87 Pete Bog
Oct 11th, 2012 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you have to go soft on the Argentines.
If they buy an Argentine history book, they are served a load of half-truths, half-lies and lies, because very few Argentine historians dare tell the truth about the falklands dispute - they all know what happened to e.g. Borges, when he mispleased the peronists.
The few Argentine historians who dare tell the truth are not dependent on government funds and find themselves ignored by all the “Malvinas Argentinas” nationalists.
@88
Oct 11th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I must see if they sell them on Amazon-I guess they are filled with cartoons of pirates and pictures of the Falkland Islanders dressed up in red coats and pith helmets aimed at people would have never heard of the term 'referencing.'
Or would such a book portray the islanders living in caves perhaps?
I would imagine the forward to the book would read “Remember history as learned from the great Adolf Hitler teaches us, if you repeat a lie enough times it becomes the truth”.
61 José Malvinero aka Joe Falklands (there are STILL no Malvinas)
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When are you going to educate YOURSELF instead of perpetuating the lies you learnt at school. A good start could be made by reading “THE CASE OF ARGENTINA” by Carlos Escude, which can be found on the internet.
A man of considerable learning he lays bare the lies spread by the Peronists and the ramifications with respect to the population who have been misled so badly by the Hitleresque Peronistas.
He also makes some very good points regarding the 1982 war and deflates the egotistical nonsense about AG 'could have won'.
I hope Mitt Romney gets in as I believe he is very Pro brit, with British relations in Barrow. I hope he's going to tell rgenweener to shut the fuck up
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really people, who gives a crap about what Argentina claims or not? It doesn't make a whole lot of difference in the world does it? Just ignore their rants about the subject. Argentina already doesn't want to import anything from the world so there isn't much commerce to be gained. Just break off relations with that place and ignore them like a spoiled crying little child. Eventually they will see that no one gives a crap and move on to something else. Or maybe they will invade the islands and then the Brits will go and test out there new military weapons. Nothing better for a strong military than some training every now and then.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyhow, we all know that Argentina doesn't really think they own the islands, they just want to take the pressure away from their failing economy. That is what they did last time and they are repeating it again. Thus we are supposed to learn history and not repeat our same mistakes. But I guess the Argie government doesn't teach that stuff do they? Another reason to eliminate the government education system because it only gets used to brain wash the children.
83
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everything will have to change,this the rule of nature.
I am certain that Your face skin will ruck up in the near future.
37 KretinaKK (#)
Oct 11th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 10th, 2012 - 09:10 pm
Here we go again, Chori Tetra Queen and her gang of gayboys screaming again about the Falklands. It's funny that Kretina keeps going on about this even though her country Argentina is crumbling around her. And her cabinet of ministers are also a bunch of screaming queens, they are all closet gays, like most men in Argenitna, they love to swing both ways. If you are straight in Argentina it's amazing how the guys all look at each other's crotches as you walk in the street, they are always trying to grab your buttcheeks, and if you shake an Argentine guys hand they always squeeze extra hard and then rub a finger in the middle of your palm. Nothing wrong wtih being gay, but I don't know who is taking care of the Argentine women since the guys are all doing each other? Maybe that is why the women are all so bitchy, we call them mal atendidas.
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lol, that is so true what you said and the women are reeeeaally bitchy..many of them are gorgeous, but their temper is really bad.
lol, “mal atendidas”
22 Conqueror .Are you sick or you are using drugs,I feel sorry for you!.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 01 Rob williams.more shit you will!! greetings
Never before have I seen the right wing so upset, especially the conservative brits :) this is hilarious :)))
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 094 Leifur_Heppni (#) MAN !! you are a BOLUDO very important!!you know? :O
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An eye-opener for malvinistas.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands Will Never Be Argentine - Prof. Carlos Escudé, Ph.D. , Argentine National Council of Scientific Research (CONICET), Universidad Torcuato Di Tella, Buenos Aires.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Future_of_the_Falkland_Islands_and_Its_People/The_Falklands_Will_Never_Be_Argentine
74 Don Alberto
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not see that that phrase is taken out of context. What you clearly transcribed by British strategy to seize the Malvinas arrogating rights over them. “I think that this is all that can be done at present”. Adds nothing different.
75 St.John
Arana-Southern Treaty in no way relates to the Malvinas, but only at the end of the British blockade to Buenos Aires and if not named Las Malvinas, is because there is absolutely nothing to the case. Treaty is a different matter.
Incidentally, another aggression over our country by the arrogant English who tried it was resolved by the English when they realized they were never going to turn our will to maintain absolute jurisdiction under Argentina, inland rivers.
And in no other of its citations, reference is made specifically to the Malvinas.
Reproduce the protest filed by Ambassador Manuel Moreno in London 1842 with official:
“The undersigned, in execution of duties under his instructions, is the need to express, to the silence of the United Provinces is not interpreted as a tacit assent, that the United Provinces can not and will never settle with resolution of the government of SMB... they consider unjust and contrary to their obvious rights; reproduce their protests of JUNE 17, 1833 and DECEMBER 29, 1834, against the sovereignty that has assumed the crown of Great Britain in the Malvinas Islands, and against dispossession and dispossession perpetrated against establishment of the Republic in Puerto Luis, also known as Puerto Soledad, the SMB corvette Clio are owed, so by any act resulting from the occupation: accordingly, the government of the United Provinces deposited these heads and leaves all the value currently and at ANY OTHER TIME MIGHT HAVE.”
61 José Malvinero (#)
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 11th, 2012 - 12:10 am
You pasted: “It is not at all clear to me that we never ever held sovereignty over these islands”, Duke of Wellington, Prime Minister, 1829.“
This is a double negative and could be rewritten as: “It is VERY clear to me that we HAVE ALWAYS held sovereignty over these islands”, Duke of Wellington, Prime Minister, 1829.”
Why don’t we just do it their way, and watch them cry,
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By there own rules, they get the Falklands,
We get Patagonia, Chile gets its land back so does Paraguay, Uruguay , Bolivia ,
All get there land /territory .
The argentine republic comes back into being, and its shrinks to less than one third it is today,,,
There,, problem solved..
ah but but but if if not fair bla bla bla
South-America solid, uuuuhhh, que miedo...i'm tembling
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hahahahahahaaaa....
@ 99 José Malvinero
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Arana-Southern Treaty: “... restoring PERFECT RELATIONS OF FRIENDSHIP, in accordance with the wishes manifested by both Governments ...”
Tratado Arana-Southern: “... restablecer LAS PERFECTAS RELACIONES DE AMISTAD, en conformidad á los deseos manifestados por ambos gobiernos ...”
Of course there are no references neither to the Isle of Man, nor to the Faeroe Islands, nor to the Falkland Islands, nor to Newfoundland, nor to any other island over which there were no dispute between Britain and Argentina.
1865: “... THERE WAS NOTHING TO PREVENT the consolidation of friendly relations between this country and those governments.”
1865: “... NO HA HABIDO SINO MOTIVOS para consolidar las relaciones amistosas que existen entre éste y aquellos gobiernos.”
1866: ”damages suffered by English subjects in 1845. THIS QUESTION, WHICH IS THE ONLY ONE between us and the British nation“
1866: ”perjuicios sufridos por súbditos ingleses en 1845. Aun no se ha resuelto ESTA CUESTIÓN QUE ES LA ÚNICA que con aquella nación subsiste.“
1869: ”The state of our foreign relations fulfils the aspirations of the country. Nothing is claimed from us by other nations; WE HAVE NOTHING TO ASK OF THEM“
1869: ”El estado de nuestras relaciones exteriores responde á las aspiraciones del país. Nada nos reclaman las otras naciónes: NADA TENEMOS QUE PEDIR DE ELLAS ...”
It is obvious from the texts that after the ratfication of the 1850 treaty that there were no longer any undecided dispute, except for the damages suffered by English subjects in 1845.
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Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0not new,
on 25 june 1996 almost all especially Mercosur plus Bolivia,Chile expressed in Decleration of Potrero de los Funes all their full support of Argentina ' rights of sovereignty over Malvinas Islands,South Georgia and South Sandwich and their surrounding maritime space ,sending a clear message from subregional bloc on the need to find a solution to the controversy..reiterated in Asuncion Decleration 1999..1n 2006 Mecrosur again repeated the 1996 decleration commitment..which reach a prompt solution in comformity with the resolutions and declerations of the UN and the Organization of American States.
@104
Oct 11th, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“resolutions and declerations of the UN ”
Which (2065) include Independence and the interests of the Falkland Islanders which cannot be met by Argentina.
103 St.John
Oct 11th, 2012 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, but if both countries are going to talk about the Malvinas, talk about the Malvinas. Therefore, all your appointments are not valid for this issue. The proof can be seen in my appointments in the number 61 and 63 of the English themselves.
We have many claims before the creation of the United Nations and from it from 1960 onwards .....
Although my Latino friends say it's all empty talk as usual from their governments, and they would never back their words by actions..
Oct 12th, 2012 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0..still i have to wonder, why on earth are they backing Argentina like this, why can't they just shut up and take a neutral position? and many of these countries have running legal actions against Argentina..
weird politics..
Bit like the current result in Ghana........RG' have no strategy, no plan......my proof being is that both causes are lost and RG flea circus government hasn't had its way! The Falklands remain the Falklands, and the ship remains in port!!!!
Oct 12th, 2012 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0And please can one of the malvinists who repeatedly used to post “ the world is behind our claim” (you know who u are), please show some grace and explain why you lied to us! Clearly the world is not behind you and it's not nice to lie your parents should have told you that!
Long live the Falklanders, may they continue to live in peace, and continue to make large wads of cash! Down with the greedy self-inflated ex colonial powers who now wish to steal a small happy populations home and way of life!
@ 99 José Malvinero
Oct 12th, 2012 - 03:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“protest filed by Ambassador Manuel Moreno in London 1842”
The year 1842 comes BEFORE the year 1850 and thus BEFORE the peace treaty.
from Alfredo Becerra: “Protestas por Malvinas, 1833-1946”, ISBN-13: 978-9879998922, Caja Editora, Buenos Aires, June 1998.
25.1. Mantiene el reclamo. De Moreno a Palmerston. 31 de julio de 1849.
26. La cuestión permanece en el estado descripto. De Palmerston a Moreno. 8 de agosto de 1849.
[NO protests after 1850 until the BRITISH protest in 1884]
27. Protesta por un mapa. De Monson a Ortiz. 15 de diciembre de 1884.
Argentine protests until December 1849; NO Argentine protests after the treaty of 1850.
There really isn't anything to talk about, except a stop to the silly Argentine harrassment of the Falkland Islands.
Did you read “The Falklands Will Never Be Argentine”, Prof. Carlos Escudé, Ph.D. , Argentine National Council of Scientific Research (CONICET), Universidad Torcuato Di Tella, Buenos Aires ?
en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Future_of_the_Falkland_Islands_and_Its_People/The_Falklands_Will_Never_Be_Argentine
It tells the sad truth about “Malvinas Argentinas”.
At 106, all the treaties, all the talk, all the sword waving, all the successive claims, all the SA counties, all the bullshit, makes not an ounce of difference to the current situation, and will not unless 1) the RG,s come up with a long term strategy to win over the Falklanders, or 2) take the Falklands by force!
Oct 12th, 2012 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0No British government will simply hand them over, regardless of whether you have international support or not! And in fact can not make that happen!
So keep posting, keep up the rhetoric, in the knowledge that neither you, or your flea circus governments can do bugger all about it!
Long live the Falklanders, may they continue to live in peace, and continue to make large wads of cash! Down with the greedy self-inflated ex colonial powers who now wish to steal a small happy populations home and way of life!
CFK plan is really working.. after she started this “malvinas” rhetoric while i was traveling there(and saw the true face of Argentina), i have stopped buying argie-products and started buying more British products than before, also support British athletes in sporting events, oh well, you can count the last one out, it doesn't really matter if i support them or not, since i don't think i has any effect on the outcome me screaming like crazy in front of telly, it's just words.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0..but yeah, not buy argie-products, yes buy British products and choose a bottle of Chilean wine instead of argie-wine, that's not much, but i'll do my part.
the cunning tactics of malvineros really work
#111
Oct 12th, 2012 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is there Argentinian to buy ?
It was just a coincidence, but I was drinking a glass of Cimarosa Cabernet Sauvignon reading this post - I think I will have a refill as it is rather good.
In solidarity with my good neighbours I guess I'll stop acquiring the only genuine stuff that comes from England. Crap. Too bad for you lot it is free, should you charge for it, EU would be top dog...
Oct 12th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@112 The shelves aren't exactly pouring of Argentinian goods.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only thing i can make of is wine and there's always the Chilean bottle next to it.
@113 Then why don't you go live in there if it's such a great country?
You should do it and put all your money in Argentinian bank account.
109 St.John
Oct 13th, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Small wretched kelper:
All this discussion shows the eternally stupid arguments null pirates to seize the alien, insisting on a treaty (of 1849 NO 1850, study a little more) that has nothing to do with the custión MALVINAS ARGENTINAS. It was the British surrender to Rosas and the withdrawal of the invaders before greeting the Argentine flag with 21 guns.
Also this stupid argument with absolute evidence shows that there is a conflict (generated by England) only two (2) parts: England (the country thief) and Argentina Republica and that the inhabitants of the Malvinas Argentinas, the born there as outsiders, have NOTHING SAY about as certified over 40 UN resolutions.
And here I end the discussion.
Peace treaty ratified 15 May 1850 - the date that counts - study a little more.
Oct 13th, 2012 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0As we all know, because it has been shown over and over again using official Argentine documents, this was confirmed by two Argentine presidents and an Argentine vice-presidents.
The NON-binding UN resolutions were invalidated when Argentina started an unprovoked military attack on The Falkland Islands in 1982.
The only BINDING UN resolution in the Falkland Islands dispute, No. 502 of April 1982 was ignored by Argentina.
José Malvinero: “And here I end the discussion.” - wise of you, as you have been shown wrong all the time.
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Oct 13th, 2012 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 117 José Malvinero
Oct 13th, 2012 - 06:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong once again.
As everybody knows the Falkland Islands are British, no matter how much you SHOUT otherwise, and your arguments against reality are shot down again and again.
St John
Oct 13th, 2012 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0What you reckon? 3 more years before UK is in so much shite we just can send your troops home without complaints? 5?
It's all a matter of time :)))) tic tac tic tac
Guzz, I think you should study the first 2 years of WW2 - that will give you the answer. How did WW2 end?
Oct 13th, 2012 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0120
Oct 13th, 2012 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0With SA booming like never before. Weird coincidence, but when you lot are in shite, we are doing great. Great future awaits us :)))
@120 Guzz
Oct 13th, 2012 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0I really hope there is a great future for Uruguay (AG can go burn in hell).
Hopefully the Chin will be getting on with estimating and designing the deep sea port and the new tranch of exploration licences result in oil eventually coming to us unless your mates try to steal it like they do everything else.
What would you do if / when that happened, which country would you back, or am I wrong?
I would of course back Uruguay against Argentina in your hypothetical reality. In the real world though, I back Arg and Uru (and Bra, Chi, Bol, Ven, Ecu, Col, Par, Per, Nic, Pan, Gua...) against the invasive lots that are the yanquis and the english.
Oct 13th, 2012 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0#123
Oct 13th, 2012 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are a bitter twisted little person , are you not.
If, as you say, we are all doomed, then it would be cheaper keeping the troops in the Falklands than in the UK. The accommodation is there along with the infrastructure. Plenty of fish in the local waters, so food is not a problem.
When you lead the invasion force with your shiny new licence to float, you will get a warm welcome.
holy crap the argies are retarded, LOL, they're talking about some Malvinas-place which doesn't even exist. And they even have a celebration day for a lost war.
Oct 13th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0By the way Guzz, no one in South-America is backing your claim. No one cares, they don't give a shit about Argentina. No one likes Argentinians, they all say argies are arrogant fucktards. I have been traveling all over Latin America and i always asked people, what do you think about Argentinians, and they would respond something like: “son arrogantes, no me gusta”
@123
Oct 13th, 2012 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“against the invasive lots that are the yanquis and the english.”
Wrong.
It was Argentina that invaded the Falkland Islands in 1982, the UK did not invade Argentina.
Argentina are the invasive lot because they actually, did, invade.
117 José Malvinero
Oct 13th, 2012 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE MALVINAS WERE, ARE AND WILL BE ARGENTINE
THE MALVINAS WERE, ARE AND WILL BE ARGENTINE
THE MALVINAS WERE, ARE AND WILL BE ARGENTINE
#127
Oct 13th, 2012 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THE FALKLANDS WERE NEVER, ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE ARGENTINE X 10 TO THE POWER 1000
125
Oct 13th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No salame
Everyone might say Porteños are arrogant, not Argentines :)))
And all of SA backs Arg, as they just showed you, Canada being your friendly voice in SA :)))
129@ Fuck you little bitch
Oct 13th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;)
Oct 13th, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@131
Oct 13th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah poor Guzz living in denial, blinding himself with dreams of a united SA ruling over the Falklands. Just one problem with that, you and your colleagues have no way of getting said islands.
132
Oct 13th, 2012 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To be fair, as long as the Brits are out, I don't care who the islands are...
#129
Oct 13th, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do we care ? NO! Keep up your useless little talking shop They say yes, we agree just to get rid of you, Then, thank God they've gone.
I know it's hard to be continually humiliated, but, it's one of life's lessons and burdens you will have to bear with equanimity.
@133
Oct 13th, 2012 - 05:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“To be fair, as long as the Brits are out, I don't care who the islands are...”
Hopefully in the future the Islands will develop enough to be independent, then things will be be fixed, and the OAS (if they are not too stupid to include the Falklands) will have strong links with Europe, the British Commonwealth and the USA (who are rightly treating Argentina like a bad smell at the moment).
Look, its not me being a bastard, the islanders are caught in the middle, noone really cares about your claims, there's bloody 3 of you, you 2 and 1 more :)))
Oct 13th, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@136
Oct 13th, 2012 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But fortunately seeing as we keep hearing resolution 2065 is so important from Malvanista posters, the UK is looking after the 'Interests' of the islands.
So what if all of South America supports Argentina, any scholar only has to examine history to see their claim is cock-eyed?
'Luke Coffey: The UK should confront Argentina over its debt'
Oct 13th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://conservativehome.blogs.com/platform/2012/10/luke-coffey-the-uk-should-confront-argentina-over-its-debt.html
'General Assembly - CPSD/508 - 12/10/2012'
The representative of the United Kingdom has, in turn, exercised its right of reply after the remarks by Venezuela and the Plurinational State of Bolivia. She explained that his country had no doubt about its sovereignty over the Islands “ Falklands ”, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands. She added that the relationship between the UK and these territories was a modern relationship based on the right of peoples to choose their future. The United Kingdom attaches great importance to the principle of self-determination and allow the people of the Islands “ Falklands ”to decide their political future through a referendum to be held in 2013, she recalled.
Responding to the representative of the United Kingdom, the representative of Argentina reiterated that the islands “Malvinas” South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands and the surrounding maritime areas are an integral part of Argentine territory. These territories are the subject of a sovereignty dispute and are illegally occupied by the United Kingdom. He urged the United Kingdom to return to the negotiating table with Argentina to find a just and lasting solution to the question of the islands. He denounced all references made by the United Kingdom for a referendum to be held in 2013, calling the approach “action encouraged by the British to whether British citizens wish to remain British.” These areas, which are the subject of a dispute colonial, are illegally occupied by the United Kingdom, concluded the representative.'
http://conservativehome.blogs.com/platform/2012/10/luke-coffey-the-uk-should-confront-argentina-over-its-debt.html
No one supports Argentina, they are all alone. Just bombard them.
Oct 14th, 2012 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This Wéb Site can nevér publish these fíction Islánds articlés/news if it is públished in Spánish or Portugúese !
Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0UK/US Team
Oct 16th, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did anyone notice that Arifu is nowhere to be seen on this thread??
He leaves it to others to denounce and demand the Falklands.
TTT to his credit, always when pushed, denied that Argentina should take the Falklands.
What does Arifu say about them???
Viva Argentina!
Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ingleses odiosos!
#142
Oct 17th, 2012 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Viva FALKLANDS
ARGENTINAS odiosos!
@142 Sussie
Oct 18th, 2012 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0VIVA FALKLANDS!!
SUSSIE ODIOSOS!!!
Sussie, muy loco.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@145 Isolde
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remember Sussie?
This is how he described himself:
“She lives in Las Vegas=good food, easy money from slots machine and fun.
She is very independent and don't need your comments.
Viva Sussie!”
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