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Seed giant Monsanto suspended in Argentina on allegations of tax irregularities
Argentine authorities suspended the local unit of US seed giant Monsanto from a local grains registry over allegations of tax irregularities. The company denied the allegations in a statement issued late on Wednesday. Read full article
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Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL, someone is DESPERATE for US Dollars!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better if Monsanto, and every other foreign company just leaves that sh*thole. Going back in time, turning into North Korea. Soon Argies will all be planting rice in the fields, and be paid 3 bowls of rice per day instead of “money” (obviously the peso isn't real money, its fancy toilet paper).
They totally deserve each other.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Very good AFIP going for criminal tax evaders, then AFIP should control more Paraguay Borders where some “Campo boys” sell cattle and commodities in the black market to avoid pay taxes in Argentina.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0@4 50% of the workforce in Argentina is on the 'black'. I know Argentines - not wealthy at all - that do anything to avoid paying tax, or train fares , or toll fees, it is a way of life. I call that criminal, they call it beating the system.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not a very good idea to shake down your main supplier when your clearly heading into the crapper.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina needs Monsanto much more than Monsanto needs Argentina.
This is a bigger deal than the reporter who wrote this realizes. Monsanto sells seeds for so-called RoundUP Ready corn and soybeans (maybe cotton too). Most of the large farmers in the world use their seeds because they can be sprayed directly with RoundUp which is an herbicide. So it kills the weeds, but not the plant. This is why they are such a success and such a large business. They are so large they are almost a monopoly although other seed producers now have similar genetically engineered seeds now.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Monsanto is a vampire octopus devouring the genetic diversity of the world while pumping its poisons over the precious soils that grow our food. Anyone with the balls to damage Monsanto has my admiration. In a perfect world where people believed in a sustainable world and life for all creatures, Monsanto would never be allowed to exist. Death to Monsanto!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 08. You are obviously an Eco-nazi that has never farmed. Monsanto has drastically increased the worlds ability to grow more food. What do you like starving people? Poor Farmers? Do you think Argentina and Brazil would be exporting Soy to China if not for Monsanto.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Retard.
Why don't they just pay some bribes to Kretina's Nazi's at AFIP?
Oct 11th, 2012 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is how the Kretina Kirchner circus runs things, it's all about how much money she can steal from them, and oh yes, I am sure very soon she will start expropiations of agricultural land, don't be surprised. Here is the queen KaKa.......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcmymeZf8jM
Well thats oneway to lose your main industries supplier. No Monsanto, no crops, no crops, no soybeans. No soybeans, no exportation of soybeans. No exportation of soybeans, Bust economy and bankrupt country - Why? All because CFK needs dollars, 20 million to secure the release of the Libetard, and 50 million to pay for other things like fuel for the winter to keep people nice and warm in their homes.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0just unbelievable, this country is going on ruins...all the possibilities they have in that fertile land, but no..they just can't do anything right.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(not that i feel bitty for them, just waiting with my bag of popcorn,,hihihi)
If Chile was smart they would invade now. Take everything except BA province. I am sure with all of the farm land, oil/gas and all the Rgs pushed into BA that place would start producing like nobodys business!
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@8 I don't know if genetically modified seeds/plants/vegetables are bad or not. I'm not a scientist. But, you do know that the Brazil's GDP has drastically benefited thanks to Monsanto's technology right? How do you think a lot of the crops in Brazil grow so well? They “acquired”, yes stole, the GM seed technology and have been using it and it has benefited Brazil greatly. That's why Monsanto has been trying to get some compensation from the Brazilian government.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 013# I don't know what's the military strength of Chile, but atleast in theory you are right. This would be a perfect opportunity but i don't see it happening since the Latin American countries don't go into wars. They lack that mentally totally. They only have armed forces to oppress their own people and ofcourse against guerillas, which by the way, doesn't limit to Colombia only and it's a fact Chavez is supporting these “maoyist” groups in Peru, Paraguay etc.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But yes, take all that ENORMOUS_________ PAMPA and other good parts, and Chile would thrive.
this just came in: Ghana is not releasing the “warship” http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-19910141
jajaja
Let's put it this way between the Chilean Air Force and Navy they would have Argentina surrendering within hours(maybe sooner). I don't think they would even need boots on the ground until after the surrender.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good job Argentina, grab those criminals.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hammerhead, don't know where you're from, but even as a foreigner I understand that it's not Monsatan (that has a 2 billion dollar lawsuit on his hands by Brazilian farmers, first judgement victory for the farmers) but it's The Brazilian Agricultural Research Corporation (Empresa Brasileira de Pesquisa Agropecuária – EMBRAPA) who is responsible for the rise of Brazilian agriculture sector. GM crops is huge there (for fuel and exports), but still small compare to the so called organic crops. What i do like of the Brazilian way is..they label food that has GM. Something thats sadly forbidden here in the US. I wonder why...
16# they have a history of quick surrendering, like in Falklands or like they are now giving up their ship in Ghana without a battle. I can see with my eyes the marineros crying like babies in W-Africa.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Looking at their way of organize things, i doubt they would do a thing if they would be attacked. They would be caught totally on surprise. I would put all my money on Chile. first round KO, or more like RTD,
@17 I can assure you I'm not a racist Dutchman who grew up getting his ass kicked who now lives in the U.S. but is obsessed with Brazil. Does that ring any bells sweetpea? Yeah, the Brazilians stole the technology as the seeds were smuggled into Brazil from neighboring countries. That's how things worked.
Oct 11th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nice try, but GM crops are huge in Brazil due to Monsanto and the farmers there know it. To say it was EMBRAPA is nonsense. But all of your comments are nonsense.
Argentina = the second North Korea
Oct 11th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@17 Really?
Oct 11th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0GMO labeling isn't forbidden in the U.S.
There's a proposition that's going to vote for it in Nov.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-usa-gmo-food-monsantobre89a1ed-20121011,0,3839044.story
The need was less pressing because the USDA Organic label explicitly means -GMO- is forbidden.
Jesus Christ on a Cracker you ppl!
@ 15 Leifur
Oct 11th, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Latin American countries don't go into wars. They lack that mentally totally”
Not entirely true. The Chilean military has been to war 4 times:
- 1810: The war of independence from Spain – Chilean/Argentine victory
- 1836: The war against the Peruvian-Bolivian confederation – Chilean victory.
- 1879: The war of the Pacific- Chilean victory
- 1973: The war against Soviet-Cuban subversives and communist guerrillas – Chilean victory
Although Chile would undoubtedly win a swift victory against Argentina we don’t have the resources or population to make it stick. The Andes present such a significant natural border that it is easier for Santiago to project its identity on Arica (2000 miles north) than it would be on Argentinean towns just over the cordillera.
That last one, 1973, was exactly what Leifur said, not a war, but oppressing yourselves with your own military. Leifur's pretty accurate, South American countries don't have the budget, or military tech to wage foreign wars. The last one to have done so in the last 100 or so years, was obviously Argentina, and it got spanked.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is the height of pathetic grovelling and bitternes to see all these foreigners play the “humiliate” Argentina for its lack of military, that Bolivia could invade and win, blah blah blah.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 12:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0The very exact crowd that at the first sign of Argentina remilitirazing would be yelling “nazis!”, “war mongers!”, “colonials!”, and blah and blah.
I know its the vogue for all Latin nationalities to say they would win a war against Argentina given they have been spending on military the last 10 years.
But if Argentina was taken over by a capable dictatorship, built up its economy through ruthless capitalism, reamassed gold reserves, repatriated all its scientists, and then spend 20% of GDP on military... given the resources and potential of the country in all aspects, within 10-15 you would have a situation where it could invade all its neighbors easily.
Nobody thought in 1790 that a starving France would take over Europe, nobody thought in 1930 that a Germany with 200 billion Mark bank notes could do the same.
When you corner a country enough, you get tears on all sides.
22 Condorito@those are quite historic wars to me. Every country went into wars in 1800-1900. It was normal and OK back then, rape and rob and conquer. Nowadays wars are a “ bad thing” and you must have a reason for a war other than just stealing.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 024@if it just was some other people living in Argentina...you could't make Argentinians to get a grip even through “capable dictatorship”. Not these people.
Besides Argentina doesn't need more land. They are incapable of using the one they have now like they should.
@25 Leifur
Oct 12th, 2012 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I agree.
@23 shakejb
It is true that we don’t get involved in many wars. The frequency and likelihood of war is not affected by technology. Africa does a good job of tearing itself apart on a low budget and low tech, so did the Balkans. As a prominent US defence official recently stated, the US hasn’t won a war since 1945, so high tech doesn’t even seem to guarantee a successful outcomes (I broadly support US intervention by the way).
1973 in Chile was a war against insurgents, not the people of Chile. Imagine how the US military would react if you had a communist in the White House, with Cuban body guards and 10,000 foreign armed communists guerrillas in the country. Actually, increase than number pro rata with population size...that would be 200,000 armed foreign insurgents in the US. You could imagine some pretty sever curtailment of freedoms.
@26 you are lucky that Argentina isn't strong and will never be. As a country Chile is kind of “flaco” and would be easy chop into pieces from flanks, even though you have the Andes. Looking at the blind crazy nationalism the argies have, which distantly remains me of the national socialists of 1930 Germany, but without the army i repeat. I've never seen so crazy people as argies when it comes to nationalism. Their nationalism is something you don't see in todays Europe. We had that stuff in the 30´s, not anymore. So i don't doubt they couldn't attack to Chile if they had the army, believe me they could. But you don't have to worry since they will never be strong.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right about US war failures and it proves tecmology isn't necessary for success. But then again, US facing Afghanistan or Vietnam is little a bit like a huge heavyweight against small lightweight. The big guy can't catch the small guy, but the small guy can't fatally hurt the big guy either. If USA would face another giant we might see a different kind of battle. Like Russia. In Europe no one hopes Russia becomes strong again, they are not commies anymore you see, but the same dangerous people. We prefere USA stays strong.
The war-mentality you lack is because of you don't have the constant fear against your neighbors. Europe has a pretty bloody history and Russia is the most feared neighbor. The argies aren't exactly talibans, if you'd conquer their land they would surrender, something the muslims or vietnamese won't do. That's what i mean with “war-mentality”. You should do it, i could watch it from TV eating popcorn:)
26 Condorito
Oct 12th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The way the govs in UK and USA keep us from armed revolts, is to keep us so materially wealthy, that we don't want to risk losing what we have in such a fight. So such an armed insurrection won't happen for many decades at least.
USA decimated Iraq and Afghanistan's military within days of arriving. Don't be so JEALOUS condorito. And Africans kill themselves, they don't launch foreign wars, so my statement still holds. Poor countries kill themselves, rich countries go abroad and kill others. This is evolution/capitalism/reality. Stop being so jealous and nationalistic. You wear your nationalism on your shoulder. Chill out, you're the best economy in SA, just be glad with that.
@28 “Poor countries kill themselves, rich countries go abroad and kill others. This is evolution”
Oct 12th, 2012 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What you said pretty much sums it, whether you like it or not it's reality.
One of my points in my posts is that Argentina is no different, if they had the wealth and army, Falklands would be invaded by now and if they had a different kind of “dictator” than CFK, they could invade Uruguay and Chile too. Their president would easily receive total support from the people of Argentina.
They are yanqui? Kick them out just in case. A win-win...
Oct 13th, 2012 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0i don't think i have to explain the evolution-part. See above #30Guzz
Oct 13th, 2012 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any bets that Monsanto will remain in the land of oz?
Oct 17th, 2012 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good on Argentina, I hope Cristina does nationalise them =)
Oct 19th, 2012 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#22 “- 1973: The war against Soviet-Cuban subversives and communist guerrillas – Chilean victory”
I'd say: 1973: American agression against elected Allende government - Chilean defeat. A defeat your great country is starting to recover from! And to think I just defended you against yankee on another thread...
#24 Thankfully Argentina is led by a peace loving human rights advocate and it is inconceivable Cristina would attack any of her neighbours. The only danger is if a right wing regime, someone like Macri, came to power, and had to resort to extreme nationalism to distract the people from the fact they were being robbed of all the gains they had made when they still had the worls's most beautiful head of state. An unlikely scenario but one the rightists on here should be careful of wishing for
you bk are the stupidest rg troll. Only in sa do leaders need cheerleaders.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0#34 I'm sure Cameron wouldn't mind if an Argie lass came on here to support his policies and say how handsome he is, but it won't happen because he's not got the same appeal as Cristina =)
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