The British Government responded to Spain’s intervention at the UN Fourth Decolonization Committee with a firm statement about its commitment to the people of Gibraltar and their British sovereignty. Read full article
“Mr Tatham specifically rejected Spain’s assertion that the principle of territorial integrity applied to the decolonisation of Gibraltar. ”
Ok, so what about portugal? Does spanish territoral integrity apply to portugal too? Or to France or Andora? No it doesn't so spains talking crap!! Especially when Gibralter has benn British territory for longer than what it was ever Spanish territory!
In fact Morroco has a better claim to Gibralter than spain since it was moroccan territory (711AD - 1461 granted there were conflicts during that period over gibraltar, they were not conquered till 1461) longer than it was spanish territory (1501 - 1704). Its been british since 1704 - The Dates say alot about how stupid spains claim is!
Reading from a statement, said the constitutional relationship with the UK Gibraltar was modern, mature and not based on colonialism, and that the UN exclusion criteria were outdated.
Totally false. It's amazing how they lie. The committee considers UN decolonization of Gibraltar as a colony. Of the 16 cases of colonialism in the world, 10 are for the UK they are: Anguilla, Bermuda, Gibraltar, the Malvinas Islands, Cayman Islands, Turks and Caicos Islands, Monserrat Island, Pitcairn Island and St. Helena Island.
Just look at any web page concerning the decolonization committee of United Nations refers to are a colony.
Besides the possibility of applying the principle of self-determination, as its exercise by the people of the Rock of Gibraltar, cause the “disruption of the national unity and territorial integrity” of Spain. In this regard it should be noted that Resolution 1514 (XV) “Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples” in the sixth paragraph states that ”Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
The conflict of Gibraltar is a sovereignty issue. No self-determination. England does not comply with international law. UK as a colonial and imperialist power, apusta to violence. Spain bet the dialogue as established by the Decolonisation Committee of the United Nations.
@7 As a Bermudian citizen and having been to all the places you mentioned above except the Malvinas as it doesn't exist, I can assure you that the people of these islands wish for nothing more than to remain British overseas territories, and you will notice that all thier flags (except Gibraltar who fly thier flag in unison with the Union flag) have one thing in common, the union flag in the top left corner. But of you of course don't care what the peolple want do you, as long as you get what you want, your like the spoilt brat in the playground who doesn't get his own way.
Read and weep rg losers quote from a top UN official.
It is to be hoped that the United Nations will bring the Decolonisation System to an end, just as the Trusteeship System has been terminated (see below), thereby recognising that (with the exception of Western Sahara) the remaining 'non self-governing territories' including the Falkland Islands each have exercised their right of self-determination by voluntarily associating themselves with a sovereign state (such voluntary association is known as 'free association' or 'devolved integration'). The Falkland Islands and their fellow Overseas Territories are self-governing in all their internal affairs, and have voluntarily surrendered responsibility for external affairs to their associated state. By exercising the right of self-determination and choosing their own constitutional position, the territories have fulfilled the expectations of Chapter XI of the United Nations Charter.
'Consensus on Gibraltar by the UN Committee of 24 in 1964
The Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Territories and Peoples, after considering the situation in the Non-Self-Governing Territory of Gibraltar and hearing statements by the representative of the administering Power and the representative of Spain and by petitioners from the Territory and from Spain, affirms that the provisions of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples are FULLY APPLICABLE to the Territory of Gibraltar.
In its consideration of these statements, the Special Committee noted that there was a disagreement, or even a dispute, between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Spain, regarding the status and situation of the Territory of Gibraltar. In the circumstances, the Special Committee invites the United Kingdom and Spain to begin talks without delay, in accordance with the principles of the United Nations Charter, in order to reach a negotiated solution in conformity with the provisions of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV), giving due account to the opinions expressed by the members of the Committee and bearing in mind the interests of the people of the Territory.
Under its terms of reference laid down in General Assembly resolution 1654 (XVI), the Special Committee requests the United Kingdom and Spain to inform the Special Committee and the General Assembly of the outcome of their negotiations.'
To sum up Gibraltar could become an independent nation any time they wish. Self-determination is officially more important that territorial integrity (I've lost the UN link). But like other posters have pointed out, if Gibraltar is damaging Spain territorial integrity then so are Andorra and Portugal.
The polish people in the UK wish for the UK to become an overseas territory of the Republic of Poland and that the polish language becomes the first language.
Perhaps the UN can stop this colonial trend.
13... If there were more polish citizens in the UK and they became UK citizens and the total voting power could achieve that through democracy than it could happen! That's the beauty of a democratic nation , if people want they can achieve, try it sometime its the future.
It seems that whenever the coveting power wants territory long-held and well-managed by another party, they scream “colonialism” to get the worlds attention. But as soon as self-determination comes up and as soon as it is clear that the population has self-determined to approve of the status quo and openly reject the coveting power's “proposals” they , they change gears claim “territory” claiming the right to become colonizers against the will of the locals. Whatever.
They had nothing,
They have nothing,
They will get nothing,
talk talk talk.
They lost to us,
They lost to the UN
They lost to the free world,
They are about to lose to Ghana.
But hey, they will get into the guineas book of records, for talking.
Talk talk talk, threats threat threats, it all adds up to
Jealousness and envy.
Argentina, CFK Anti brit bloggers,
All the same,
Bla blab la , brag brag brag .ectectect
Comments
Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat a slapping down he gave the Spaanish minister.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 03:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Mr Tatham specifically rejected Spain’s assertion that the principle of territorial integrity applied to the decolonisation of Gibraltar. ”
Oct 12th, 2012 - 04:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok, so what about portugal? Does spanish territoral integrity apply to portugal too? Or to France or Andora? No it doesn't so spains talking crap!! Especially when Gibralter has benn British territory for longer than what it was ever Spanish territory!
In fact Morroco has a better claim to Gibralter than spain since it was moroccan territory (711AD - 1461 granted there were conflicts during that period over gibraltar, they were not conquered till 1461) longer than it was spanish territory (1501 - 1704). Its been british since 1704 - The Dates say alot about how stupid spains claim is!
spannish great , spannish incompetnence,
Oct 12th, 2012 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK influence.
Water or land here all belongs to our motherland Spain!! go your home looter pirates!!!!!!!!!1
Oct 12th, 2012 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More colonial attitude from the stooge power in military terms.Did they speak with the White House first.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The White House also sucks me!!
Oct 12th, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Reading from a statement, said the constitutional relationship with the UK Gibraltar was modern, mature and not based on colonialism, and that the UN exclusion criteria were outdated.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Totally false. It's amazing how they lie. The committee considers UN decolonization of Gibraltar as a colony. Of the 16 cases of colonialism in the world, 10 are for the UK they are: Anguilla, Bermuda, Gibraltar, the Malvinas Islands, Cayman Islands, Turks and Caicos Islands, Monserrat Island, Pitcairn Island and St. Helena Island.
Just look at any web page concerning the decolonization committee of United Nations refers to are a colony.
Besides the possibility of applying the principle of self-determination, as its exercise by the people of the Rock of Gibraltar, cause the “disruption of the national unity and territorial integrity” of Spain. In this regard it should be noted that Resolution 1514 (XV) “Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples” in the sixth paragraph states that ”Any attempt aimed at the partial or total disruption of the national unity and territorial integrity of a country is incompatible with the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations.
The conflict of Gibraltar is a sovereignty issue. No self-determination. England does not comply with international law. UK as a colonial and imperialist power, apusta to violence. Spain bet the dialogue as established by the Decolonisation Committee of the United Nations.
Englan the only language they know is violence . Scots killed again for wanting to be free??
Oct 12th, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 As a Bermudian citizen and having been to all the places you mentioned above except the Malvinas as it doesn't exist, I can assure you that the people of these islands wish for nothing more than to remain British overseas territories, and you will notice that all thier flags (except Gibraltar who fly thier flag in unison with the Union flag) have one thing in common, the union flag in the top left corner. But of you of course don't care what the peolple want do you, as long as you get what you want, your like the spoilt brat in the playground who doesn't get his own way.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 09( # ) Soon there will be no union jack or brits colonies. Many will laugh!!
Oct 12th, 2012 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read and weep rg losers quote from a top UN official.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is to be hoped that the United Nations will bring the Decolonisation System to an end, just as the Trusteeship System has been terminated (see below), thereby recognising that (with the exception of Western Sahara) the remaining 'non self-governing territories' including the Falkland Islands each have exercised their right of self-determination by voluntarily associating themselves with a sovereign state (such voluntary association is known as 'free association' or 'devolved integration'). The Falkland Islands and their fellow Overseas Territories are self-governing in all their internal affairs, and have voluntarily surrendered responsibility for external affairs to their associated state. By exercising the right of self-determination and choosing their own constitutional position, the territories have fulfilled the expectations of Chapter XI of the United Nations Charter.
@ 7 Raul
Oct 12th, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Consensus on Gibraltar by the UN Committee of 24 in 1964
The Special Committee on the Situation with regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Territories and Peoples, after considering the situation in the Non-Self-Governing Territory of Gibraltar and hearing statements by the representative of the administering Power and the representative of Spain and by petitioners from the Territory and from Spain, affirms that the provisions of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples are FULLY APPLICABLE to the Territory of Gibraltar.
In its consideration of these statements, the Special Committee noted that there was a disagreement, or even a dispute, between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Spain, regarding the status and situation of the Territory of Gibraltar. In the circumstances, the Special Committee invites the United Kingdom and Spain to begin talks without delay, in accordance with the principles of the United Nations Charter, in order to reach a negotiated solution in conformity with the provisions of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV), giving due account to the opinions expressed by the members of the Committee and bearing in mind the interests of the people of the Territory.
Under its terms of reference laid down in General Assembly resolution 1654 (XVI), the Special Committee requests the United Kingdom and Spain to inform the Special Committee and the General Assembly of the outcome of their negotiations.'
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Consensus_on_Gibraltar_by_the_UN_Committee_of_24_in_1964
To sum up Gibraltar could become an independent nation any time they wish. Self-determination is officially more important that territorial integrity (I've lost the UN link). But like other posters have pointed out, if Gibraltar is damaging Spain territorial integrity then so are Andorra and Portugal.
The polish people in the UK wish for the UK to become an overseas territory of the Republic of Poland and that the polish language becomes the first language.
Oct 12th, 2012 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perhaps the UN can stop this colonial trend.
@13 another grown up comment from a jealous loser
Oct 13th, 2012 - 04:53 am - Link - Report abuse 013... If there were more polish citizens in the UK and they became UK citizens and the total voting power could achieve that through democracy than it could happen! That's the beauty of a democratic nation , if people want they can achieve, try it sometime its the future.
Oct 13th, 2012 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Has anybody noticed how the second rate AG trolls are all on here now?
Oct 13th, 2012 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor babies, can't make it in the real world.
14# what have I lost.Gibraltar?
Oct 13th, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 015# I think you need to think about what you posted.
1, purely anti British,
Oct 14th, 2012 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse 02, envious
3, jealousy.
Simple as 123.
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18 Briton
Oct 14th, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Simple as 123 is far too hard for 'YULENONOESNOTHING'. LOLs
agreed
Oct 15th, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems that whenever the coveting power wants territory long-held and well-managed by another party, they scream “colonialism” to get the worlds attention. But as soon as self-determination comes up and as soon as it is clear that the population has self-determined to approve of the status quo and openly reject the coveting power's “proposals” they , they change gears claim “territory” claiming the right to become colonizers against the will of the locals. Whatever.
Oct 15th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They had nothing,
Oct 15th, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They have nothing,
They will get nothing,
talk talk talk.
They lost to us,
They lost to the UN
They lost to the free world,
They are about to lose to Ghana.
But hey, they will get into the guineas book of records, for talking.
Talk talk talk, threats threat threats, it all adds up to
Jealousness and envy.
Argentina, CFK Anti brit bloggers,
All the same,
Bla blab la , brag brag brag .ectectect
22 briton
Oct 15th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Briton, you did not include the other Guiness Book of Records entry:
FOR LOSING!
LOL
ha ha
Oct 15th, 2012 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0very true.chris
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