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UK to withdraw thousands of troops from Afghanistan next year

Tuesday, October 16th 2012 - 07:33 UTC
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Britain plans to withdraw thousands of troops from Afghanistan next year, Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said, as pressure mounts to end British involvement in the costly and unpopular war. Read full article

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  • Guzz

    Good news, 9000 too many though...
    On another subject, and call it off-topic, but if it is so, it's merely because of your own neglection...
    Why nothing on the little issue where your high officers and military men do lobbying for weapon producers in order to offer them profitable contracts with the UK army? Mayhap that is less important for the Islanders than te happenings of Gibraltar?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    It is great news that we're withdrawing.

    The lobbying is under investigation all the time, that's not news really. I admit, though, that also is an extremely bad thing, any military personnel acting with a second motive or abusing their position should be ashamed of themselves.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    Great news can wait for our brave lads to return, battle hardened troops will insure the uk army is the top of the tree in training and effectiveness.

    How's the training frigate release mission going?????

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Santa Fe
    Sure, now they can kill defenseless women and children just about anywhere in the world, with no more remorse than that constant tic on the right eye... ;)

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Eddieposted

    Guzz
    Murdering defenseless women and children ie making 30,000 civilians disappear, is the speciality of argentine forces.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Indeed, trained and supported by you lot and your allies, our military (uruguay's included), are useful tools of yours. That is why we reduced them to basically non-existant. Try again.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    5... You beat me to it, trolls in glass houses guzz trolls in glass houses

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @1 Guzz

    Those under investigation are not serving officers, they have retired, and will face justice should they be found guilty.

    There is presently no indication that they were serving when any of these alleged crimes took place.

    In regards to the story, this isn't news, this has been on the cards for years, and mentioned many times in Parliament an on the UK news, that draw down of troops would begin and be completed by 2015, if not sooner.

    Tell me, Guzz, you have stated in previous posts on other threads that you support the poor blameless Taliban. Do you still support the 'brave' Taliban who tried to murder a 14 year old girl because she spoke out against them, because she wanted an education, because she wanted freedom?

    Your morals are completely skewed, and you always look at situations with the benefit of 20-20 hindsight; remarking from standing on 'your' moral highground, that this should or should not have been done.

    It's a little different when you have to make a decision without knowing what the future holds.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Eddieposted

    Guzz
    You are a typical argie blaming everybody else for your own failings - try again.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Guzz, you are a monumental idiot!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Don't be too hard on the sanctimonious mocker, he is, afterall, just Guzz.
    No more & no less than we've come to expect from a detached, no responsibilty, highgrounder like others of his ilk.
    Just like Think actually.
    Hey Guzz, is Think your old man, or uncle or some other relation?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • eusebio

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    12..two more beers please john

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “Indeed, trained and supported by you lot”

    What a load of rubbish. Your armed forces are trained by your officers. YOUR armed forced are financed and staffed(supported) by YOUR nation.

    Just because five or so of our troops may have gone on a training mission with five of yours does not mean we trained your entire army. It's the equivalent of you saying that i support the destruction of the rainforest because i once had a big mac.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gustbury

    So now you can put them in an upright position and sit on them! ahhhhhhhh hahahah

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    It would seem that Brits are now vicariously liable for the bad behaviour of Argentines they have met. That's a new concept.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    After the way they are treated by their own government, they should not be their,

    The sooner they come home the better,

    Perhaps they could be sent to operation south Atlantic next year,

    We hear a poss. 23 royal navy ships , RAF and 5,000 troops
    Exercise is good for the locals, to watch and admire,
    And for future enemies to look in awe..
    Justa thought.

    .

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gustbury

    with your missiles of course!!!! hahaha

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    with your missiles of course!!!! hahaha

    you dont have any missiles.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    Finally we can end this ordeal. Maybe we could deploy the 9000 to the Falklands, after all the Argies get a bit turned on by “Militarisation.” Because its not like they can militarise in any way. Lol

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    With all the guys coming home, they are going to have to be deployed somewhere, cue Resident Falkland Islands Battalion? now that really would stir things up down south, can you imagine the reaction!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    The economy is sinkinga and the war is lost!

    20 Conor J (#) Keep spending more money that you can't afford to spend.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    22... Fake yank

    The war was 30 years ago get over it, and your economy has been crap for a while, life's too short just chill winston!!!!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @22 - Fake yank

    Unlike Argentina the UK can afford to spend money on defence. Even with the cuts we have more than enough men and equipment to keep Argentina at bay.

    Let's see, 4 Typhoons, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine (that may or may not be in the area), 1,200 members of the UK armed forces.

    Yup, more than enough to make Argentina tremble, whine and cry about militarisation. How the rest of the world must laugh at you.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @22
    War is lost? Don't think so.
    The objective was to remove the Taliban from power......Completed
    The objective was to destroy the leadership of Al-Queda...Completed
    The objective was to neutralise Osama Bin-Laden......Completed
    The objective was to rebuild the Infrastructure, water services etc....Completed
    The objective was to stop the Taliban form preventing Children form going to school......Completed(mostly)
    The objective was to stop the Taliban form murdering women who exposed skin in the street in front of bystanders....Completed(mostly)
    The list goes on, I may not have agreed with the war per say but we did do the job that was meant to be completed despite problems along the way.

    Cant Afford? Not sure what you mean it costs very little to maintain 1500 troops in the Falklands as it is, barely 150 million in fact. Im sure we could always have a few more to keep you and your Argie friends out.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    70% of Afghani men polled WANTED NATO security forces at the start. Now that we've liberated their ten year old former slave-brides too, not so much.

    It's good the U.S. is downsizing in Oct. as well as U.K. Our libertarian senator, Ron Paul has always voted for peace.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @6 Guzz
    “Indeed, trained and supported by you lot and your allies”
    Come on, I thought you would have gotten past that by now.
    Our military did it, stop blaming others.
    Our military (supported by a lot of our public) committed the crimes in our countries.
    Not their military, not their public.
    Sure, the USA and French sent “technical help”, but we were under no obligation to receive it.
    It might hurt but it is true.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 04:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    @25 Maybe you haven't noticed, but the Taliban are in control of half the country, and will regain control by 2015 because of the failure that is the Karzai government. We haven't won.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    The sooner our lads are out of afghan the better, that's all I care about.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    Oooops! I guess that I stuck my finger in an open wound.

    Conor J, Please revisit your accomplishments list.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    :) never have I said I support taliban, which doesn't mean I support the murdeting of talibans. Afghanistan is so much more than taliban, yet you call them all the same for conveniance. I don't support them for other reasons than you lot though. While I see murders of children as responsable for crimes against humanity, you see them as mere competition...

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (27) Condorito

    Of course, Condorito, of course...................
    And the moon is made of cheese............................

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @31 - Guzz

    You are a fool. No one in Britain takes the loss of life of anyone in the blasé manner that you do.

    Soldiers have a code of honour that they live by, they are also governed by law, and should they break the law they are held accountable.

    The majority of deaths in Afghanistan are caused by the Taliban as they murder, intimidate and threaten the people of Afghanistan. The majority of Taliban fighters are foreigners who care nothing for Afghanistan or its people. Foreigners from places like Pakistan, Iran and Chechnya who are trying to enforce their ideals on the people. Their ideals that aren't even Islamic.

    For instance, the Prophet Mohammed strictly forbade the killing of women and children, even non-Muslims. Yet the Taliban believe that they know better than the Prophet, which is blasphemy, and murder with impunity.

    At least the UK and other countries like us are trying to make things better. If we weren't there it could be another Rwanda.

    People like you Guzz just stand on the sidelines and criticise, but you don't have the moral courage to take a stand on any issue, and your certainly don't have the courage to put your money where your mouth is.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Stand in the sideline? I ended up in the lions mouth for being in the middle of the action. You have no idea what I have seen and I most surely want no pity from you. One thing I can say though. Nunca mas.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @28
    Did you read my comment or did you presume that I'm some sort of chest thumping nationalist? We have completed all the objectives we set out to do. But I except that the Taliban will always be an issue. Oh and FYI they do not own half the country, quite an exaggeration, they are limited to certain pockets in particular Southern and Western Helmand. In the long run they will always be a problem but let me assure you as someone who knows and works with troops and has researched this issue they wont get back into power however they will always be a problem and yes they will influence the government in some way. It was a mistake to get involved in a rag head filled country like that. This is the fourth time we have entered Afghan and again we have had to fight Guerilla warfare. The best solution for a situation like this is several Trident missiles over a wide area, yes you commit genocide but it does at least get rid of the problem.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @34 - Guzz

    Yawn! Pulling the “I've been there and bought the t-shirt” rhetoric won't work.

    1 out of 10, must try harder or La Campora will stop paying you.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    32 Think
    ...and how did they coerce our benign military to carry out their wicked plans?

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (37) Condorito = Turnip.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    36
    Been there and seen the t-shirt. The man wearing it let the blood dry on it so it would soften the pain when he was being battered, like a carcass. You have no idea what you are talking about, old man. Killing women and children from safe ground. How brave of you!! Nunca mas!!!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @38
    There we have the answer from a man with no argument...childish name calling.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    32 Think (#) (27) Condorito

    “Of course, Condorito, of course...................
    And the moon is made of cheese............................”

    Haaaaa! I Love It!!!!!

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Thank god they are coming home, next time the Taliban kick off we should just drop a dirty big bomb on them without a single loss of our armed forces lives. The whole mess has been such a needless waste of our soldiers lives.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    35 Conor J (#)
    “The best solution for a situation like this is several Trident missiles over a wide area, yes you commit genocide but it does at least get rid of the problem.”

    So how do we get rid of the other problem? .... you.

    42 Britworker (#)
    You finbally begin to make sense.

    Oct 16th, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    right or wrongly,
    when the west, romoves its troops and other military,

    then and only then, will the world see what will happen in afgan.

    something tell us,
    peace and harmany, will be something , some would have wished they did not throgh away.

    and blood and violence will be the order of the day.

    we will just have to wait and see.

    just an opinion.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Guzz! Where were u? Which lions mouth? What action did you see? Army? Medic? Civilian worker?

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    @36 They're all over Afghanistan, not just Helmand Province. Since 2007, they have regained their strength and have killed even more soldiers than before. We've been fighting a losing battle since 2007, and the corrupt government that is the Karzai admin. has little influence outside Kabul.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 02:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @45 - Brit abroad

    Guzz has been nowhere and done nothing. You can tell from his posts.

    He's probably never seen a dead body, let alone a badly wounded one.

    If he had he wouldn't talk about it in such a blasé fashion. In fact his post @39 proves my point in spades, it's pure nonsense.

    Like many trolls on here he believes if he pretends he has done something it gives him more credibility, when in fact it doesn't it just shows him up to be a pathetic liar.

    He also avoided mentioning his views on the Taliban trying to murder a 14 year old girl, because it doesn't fit in with his delusion that the Taliban are decent chaps fighting against the evil imperialist US and UK.

    He has never met an Afghan national. Most Afghans don't want foreign troops in their country, which is perfectly understandable. What Guzz and others like him fail to understand is that the majority of the Taliban are foreigners too, nd the Afghans don't want them their either. Unlike the ISAF forces, the foreign Taliban have no intention of leaving Afghanistan, because their goal is to destroy it, nd spread their unholy, anti-Islamic religion further.

    The ISAF forces have been training the Afghan forces for years, and yes there has been the odd green on blue attack (most of them nothing to do with the Taliban no matter how much the claim responsibility), but their forces are pretty much trained now, and are conducting patrols and missions on their own.

    It's time to hand over full responsibility for their security to the Afghan Army and Police. That means less troops needed, because the Afghan Army are now fulfilling that role. Some troops will stay in a advisory capacity until about 2015, but the number will be extremely small.

    @46 - THEMan

    Err, no your post is wrong. I know this because I am an ex-Army medic who works in Birmingham and we receive the battle casualties.

    The numbers of killed and wounded are significantly lower than 2 years ago.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Lep
    You are murderers of women and children, regardless of what I have seen in SA. I'm not going to enter a discussion defending my past, don't feel the need to defend nor proove anything when it comes to you lot. Believe me or not, you are STILL murderers of women and children. Want me to post some links on the named victims? I've posted 3 already, I could easily do it again, only for you this time...

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 06:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    47 LEPRecon

    and yet again Guzz has posted a blinder at 48!!!I really don't think he knows what he is talking about.

    “you are STILL murderers of women and children. Want me to post some links on the named victims?”

    WTF??? oh dear Guzz, you still think you understand without understanding. Yes there are always so called “collateral damage” in war. Especially in a war such as the one we are fighting in Afghanistan. but murderers??? You are way off the mark there Guzz me old son.

    and what is this sh*t? :-

    I'm not going to enter a discussion defending my past, don't feel the need to defend nor proove anything when it comes to you lot

    Arn't you the one constantly berating the British Empire and the UK's Colonial past???

    “never have I said I support taliban, which doesn't mean I support the murdeting of talibans”

    Murdering Taliban??? who?? Don't suppose you've heard of the “Rules of engagement” have you?

    “Afghanistan is so much more than taliban, yet you call them all the same for conveniance”

    True, The Taliban are made of forgien fighters from Iran and Pakistan to name but two and Afghan drug lords, young men from the villages chosen to fight by their elders as payment to the taliban and unemployed Afghans, the so called “10 dollar Taliban” Paid to fight ISAF forces for 10 dollars a day.

    It is you who know nothing, or, because you know a thing or two, you think you know it all..............clown

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 07:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Bla bla bla... Stop murdering women and children!!

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    grow up guzz

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Doing just that quite fine, thank you very much, now give the same opportunity to the Iraqi and Afghan children, they've done you nothing.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you make statments that has no proof,

    can you prove british forces have killed woman and children.

    if you cannot, then you are just inciting more violence against western forces.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @48 - Guzz

    You state that I am a murderer?!? Where is your evidence?!? Oh that's right, you haven't got any, and your are desperately (very desperately looking at the quality of your post) trying to justify your position.

    The Taliban deliberately give children bombs and tell them to walk into a busy market place, promising to give them sweets or a few dollars. They are the murderers because they do it with deliberate malice knowing that the child is going to die.

    The ISAF forces don't deliberately target women and children, and you are a fool if you believe otherwise.

    Guzz you are blinding by your hatred of everything British or US that you willing side with the murderers of children.

    That's why you are pathetic, because it all or nothing with you.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    why you argies hate so much,

    after everything we have done for you.

    ungratfull or what.

    its justa blogga

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    @54 LEP maybe I should say again. Since 2007, the Taliban have regained their strength and have killed more soldiers in the 5 years to 2012, than before that year. We're losing the war, and more of the Afghan soldiers are joining the Taliban (for different reasons) to fight us. The civilians are turning against us, because of our idiotic counterparts' need to destroy their homes (e.g. burning perfectly legal crops, food stocks, noticed this in several news sites in around 2010-2011). Fact is, we've wasted the past 5 years trying to set up a failing army, and government who has little control outside Kabul.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    The brits get the blame for everything nowdays,

    blame it on the brits, they can take,
    just a load of anti rubbish.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    I would say that the US killed more innocent people in Iraq than Saddam did, which is an enormous feat considering he was the dictator who would torture his own people. I don't think we should even get involved in matters like this anymore. But we don't have a say, do we? Always the government running into wars which we hate. Anyway, I still agree that there are a lot of Argies who hate us, and have nothing better to do but insult those who weren't even involved in it (Guzz is an exception as he's from Uruguay, but still doesn't really have positive opinions towards English people).

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you mean british people.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @56 - THEMan

    I disagree with your statement. There is a misconception that because Afghanistan hasn't suddenly become a carbon copy of a western society that we have somehow 'failed'. But why should Afghanistan emulate the west?

    They have their own rich history and culture, and it is up to them to find a way forwards that will benefit the people of Afghanistan. Advances have been made, and will continue to happen.

    The people of Afghanistan want to live in a peaceful society, that while islamic, won't be run by extremists.

    The only way that can happen is through the training of their own security forces, which is precisely what ISAF has been doing for years. The Afghan forces are ready and confident that they can do this.

    You base all your opinions on the news. Well the problem with the news is that they very rarely ever report on the good things happening in Afghanistan. The hospitals and schools built by the British and other ISAF countries. The improvements made to the infrastructure with more roads, allowing more trade around the country.

    You see, news organisations think this is boring, and that viewers will switch off. Oh no, a disaster is far better than a 'feel good' story in regards to ratings.

    In a few years time, Afghanistan will be 100% in charge of their own security. They'll do it their way, which might not be the wests way, but they do it with confidence and a sense of national identity, and a new found belief that their country can be a success, and they'll have pride in their country.

    That's all the Afghans want, and that is what ISAF has been working to bring about.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    To be fair here,
    We all may agree to disagree on our governments involvement,

    But like everything else in this very violent world we live it,

    It’s the military, or the boys and girls on the ground, who end up giving their innocent lives,
    So that others may hopefully enjoy their freedom.

    Fair comment..
    .

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    @60 LEP I understand that they've built new schools, got women into education and jobs (still limited), and moderately improved the infrastructure. That's not my point.
    My point is that the current Karzai government is corrupt, doesn't have any kind of influence or control over outer Afghanistan, and won't be able to fight the Taliban by themselves after 2015, due to their poor training, discipline, and many of the soldiers being corrupt. Once we leave the country, they will fail in keeping Afghanistan a 'democratic' country, and the country will spiral back into extremists.
    As for the infrastructure, they've built dirt roads that are in poor condition, and many of the new schools and hospitals are regularly attacked with bombs (some even destroyed) which means some can't use them.

    Anyway, since you mentioned the media, let me make a fair comment. We'll probably never know what exactly happens in Afghanistan with the Army, Taliban or the people due to a lot of exaggeration or propaganda in it, but we all know that they are struggling to gain freedom from the Taliban, and we are ultimately failing in our objective to get rid of them.

    @59 nope just English. Read his previous contributions, then you'll see why

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @62 -,THEMan

    Unfortunately that is how it is in Afghanistan. There is always some form of corruption, even when the Taliban were running things.

    They are still very loyal to a tribal system, and in elections will vote for whomever their tribal elders tell them to.

    As I said in my post, it's not the wests way of doing things, but if it works for them fine. Things will improve slowly, but you have to remember that they are coming back from the brink.

    There are no guarantees that they won't descend into civil war once ISAF have left, but the Afghan Taliban have been making conciliatory noises because they're as fed up of the fighting as any other Afghan. The main problem are the foreign Taliban who want to destroy Afghanistan.

    I don't believe the people of Afghanistan want that, so they will support their own troops and their own government, as flawed as it may be.

    But in time they'll develop a more equitable system. It's not all doom and gloom.

    As for our objective in Afghanistan, it was never to get rid of the Taliban, it was to provide security whilst training up the Afghan Army and police. To provide security to allow infrastructure to be built and government systems to be developed and put into place.

    No wonder you're all doom and gloom if that's why you thought ISAF was there.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    “Foreign Taliban”... That's the worst piece of homemade excuse I've heard in a long time, earlier posts indicates you can surely find better ones, you are full of them. Meanwhile, in the real world, you are getting your arses kicked by the Afghans, just like the Russians before you.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @64 - Guzz

    Your ignorance is astounding. You are a racist. This means that you hate the British, though if your Uruguayan I'm not sure why. You reasons for hating the British seem to be mired in the past which you constantly judge using modern day laws and morals, whilst conveniently ignoring the dubious past histories of South American countries.

    Because you hate the British you support anyone who you perceive as being an enemy to the British. Hence why you support the Taliban.

    You would hate the British even if all we ever did was wander around the world doing charitable works. You see racist, bigot, fascist.

    If you truly knew anything about the situation in Afghanistan you would know that there is a foreign Taliban, made up of people from Iran, Pakistan, Chechneya and other countries.

    Are you going to answer my question Guzz? Do you support the Taliban? The same Taliban who tried to murder a 14 year old girl for daring to stand up to them? Do you think of them as 'brave'?

    You keep avoiding answering this question. I wonder why?

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    62 Nice comment!!!
    So karzai is corrupt, they wont be able to fight the taliban, they will fail in keep Afghanistan “democracy”and the country will spiral back to extremists.
    Dear explain for what reason did you invaded them since now they are worst than before and after 10 years you werent able to give any solution than more violence over more violence????
    Leave them alone, you dont give peace and democracy to nobody, its sth that every country has to build on their own way and without your “sweet and peaceful” help. 10 years and how many died, and you couldnt win the war.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    65
    Brits aren't a race, believe it or not, and don't blame the rest of the Brits for your flaws, I don't.

    I will have to repeat myself, and I will write this slowly just so you can keep up. Ready? I don't support the Taliban. Got that? Good.

    The Talibans are an islamic religious and political movement that, regardless of you and me disagreeing with it, is a lot less “foreign” than your dear army. And regardless of what we think, every person has the right and responsibility to fight against an invading nation.

    I don't support Taliban ideology, as I condemn the shooting of that brave little girl. But I fully support Afghanistans right to joyfully kick your arses, sadly enough, at their expense.

    I got a question for you. What is your opinion on Hanan Saleh Matrud? She was 8 years old when she was shot in the torso. Do you remember her? Why didn't you and your lots media pay as much attention to that murder? Now go gogle her name..

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • TheSCOT

    @66 malen the US takes care of that stuff usually. Try speaking to them, not us.

    Also your grammar is poor, and most of it lacks sense.

    Oct 17th, 2012 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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