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Argentina joins the UN Security Council with overwhelming support of 182 votes

Thursday, October 18th 2012 - 22:53 UTC
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The UN General Assembly elected Argentina, Rwanda and Australia to the 15-national Security Council for 2013 and 2014. Rwanda and Argentina were unopposed in their bids for the Africa seat and the Latin American and Caribbean seat. Read full article

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  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    Awful.

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    There goes the neighbourhood...............

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    What neighborhood? The invade countries preemetively and kill women and children neighborhood? All a bunch of criminals, those represented in that body. fact... I would be ashamed to belong to those countries.

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    Guess who Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos is.

    “caliginous abysses”, “iconoclast”

    “I simply want to withdraw from the UN and the OAS.”, “ leave the UN. It is shameful we belong to that organization.”

    “remove the slime of being associated with an organization which has your country as a member”

    Truth_Telling_MickeyMouse aka Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos aka Arifu_Gobakuwi aka Tobias - all from the Mendoza province.

    TTM(T)/A_G/G_O_T/Toby_el_Menduco: What is the origin of the word “colony”?

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Of course you get an overwhelming result if you are they only one in the race.

    But I suppose it might distract a few citizens for a while.

    Meanwhile, instead of representing the whole of South America, Argentina kicks off with a tirade about something that has nothing to do with the people they're meant to be representing.

    I find it funny that they mention that they want to bring about the end of colonialism. Does this mean that they've decided to stop trying to colonise the Falklands?

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    @5

    Thanks for changing my mind.

    When you said “represent the whole of South America”, you made me think. Represent for what purpose? with what goal? With which tools?

    What do the non-permanent members do? Exactly.

    So, might as well make a mockery of it. I hope Argentina does, becaue the UN SecCo deserves no respect.

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    we hope the rest of them carry headache pills.

    they are going to need them.

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • We got your Fragata

    Argentina on the security council? I see the UN is less and less prestigious. Anybody who would want anything to do with a garbage country like this one, where crime is spiraling out of control, and know NOTHING about security, honestly or anything that is not corrupt and destructive is crazy!

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    What prestige? They got the UK and USA in there? Who broke the very rule that created the UN in the first place! To start a war of preemption!

    The truth sucks eh? Your country is morally garbage.

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    we agree
    and argentina should be thrown out.

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    @10

    Please?

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    He changes his thing based on earlier discussions with you guys. The mention of yellow eyes became ojos amarillos. When Capn mentioned his syntax was still the same he changed. When I mentioned he was dropping words unlike an Anglo he became Arifu.
    It's not like he isn't responsive :)

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    Elio OjOs Amarillos has a far longer history than you can imagine. As did Arifu Gobakuwi (and this Idlehands can VOUCH for being the truth).

    You are welcome to google them.

    You believe I was joking when I said you have no idea who we are. At your own peril.

    May Nabiru be our lodestar to our Hele vimanas.

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Tobi, are you a Scientologist? ;)

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    I don't know. I am not Tobias. Ask him (he's up there with the Annunaki).

    Oct 18th, 2012 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    ”The Nibiru cataclysm is a supposed disastrous encounter between the Earth and a large planetary object (either a collision or a near-miss) which certain groups believe will take place in the early 21st century. Believers in this doomsday event usually refer to this object as Planet X or Nibiru. ”

    Oh well...if the Earth is blasted to pieces, at least we don't have to hear Argentina whine anymore. Silver linings and all that ;)

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    Fantastic news again from the UN. The overwhelming support demonstrates once again Argentinas fine standing in the world, despite critics trying to convince us otherwise. This will certainly bring in some sound thinking in the UN.
    Congratulations to Argentina and CFK.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    You would have no idea. But I have read Voynich.

    Hele, hele, lamat zabac ta ni.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britninja

    Wingardium Leviosa!

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    It looks like the TTT has really flipped this time.

    Poor little boy.

    BTW, threats from someone with serious psychiatric problems is supposed to worry us, get real.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I thought nobody liked Argentina...

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kbec

    Well, Argentina are about to spend the next 2 years making a fool out of themselves on the security council by talking about an imaginary group of islands beginning with M.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Every member of the UN deserves a seat in the non voting section of the security counsel. I think the rationale is if there are engrossed in real serious world matters, maybe the will shut the fuck up. Besides it's a rotational privilege, it's not like they have not been on it before. No veto power

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    'overwhelming support'????? I don't think there was a vote as they were the only country in SA that put their hand up.......

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    Rwanda: Member of the Commonwealth of Nations - official policy to support the Falklands claim by the UK
    Luxembourg: Member of the EU - official policy to follow EU law therefore support the Falklands claim by the UK
    Republic of Korea: Regional Ally of the UK and also the US and therefore neutral in the Falklands issue due to other island claims regional to Korea itself

    Conclusion: Argentina's on their own. Again. Whining. And wetting their pants. As usual.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    3 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    “What neighborhood? The invade countries preemetively and kill women and children neighborhood? All a bunch of criminals, those represented in that body”

    What am I saying? Based on the above, Argentina should fit right in then.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @18 Giorgio_O_Tsoukalos,
    So you have read Voynich?
    l take it you meant the Voynich Manuscript?
    What do you make of it? l too, have read it.
    l would be interested to know your conclusions.
    This is not a trick question.
    Forget our current squabble. Just concentrate on Voynich.
    For myself, l am unsure.
    lt sounds like a meaningless jumble of letters, except, why would anyone go to such lengths to produce nonsense.
    l wonder if it is Tibetan, written with a European code.
    Although l suppose the cryptanologists must have considered that.
    Please reply.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I agree the UN can be seen as pointless on many levels but it keeps countries talking and working together, for that purpose alone it is worth supporting.

    As for blaming the UN for the world's ills, it is like saying, 'Whenever there is a crime scene the police are always there' and implying the police are responsible. The UN act in a policing role.

    In that respect they should be representative but as Argentina has just proved, some countries are not mature enough to look beyond their own borders. Their opening me, me, me stance will have set the tone for them to be tolerated and ignored.

    Another own goal, Timmerman. I like that man. : )

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @28 - ElaineB

    I agree.

    Let's see what the UNSC have on their plate at the moment.

    1. We have Syria in the middle of a brutal and bloody civil war.
    2. We have Syria bombing Turkey, and Turkey retaliating, which is threatening to spiral out of control, and could pull other NATO countries in.
    3. We have North Korea threatening to bomb South Korea.
    4. We have Iran trying to acquire or build a nuclear weapon, and Israel threatening a pre-emptive strike against them if the do.
    5. We have India and Pakistan (both nuclear powers) fighting over Kashmir which is always threatening to spiral out of control.
    6. We have the problem of Somali pirates attacking international shipping and kidnapping people.
    7. We have North and South Sudan fighting over oil.
    8. And we have Argentina complaining about a sovereignty issue.

    I wonder which one of these are not the responsibility of the UNSC but are in fact the responsibility of the International Court of Justice?

    Send the answer to Timidman, c/o UN building in NYC.

    It's time for Argentina to take a good look beyond its borders and realise what the UNSC are here to do. They have far bigger fish to fry, and are completely not interested in something that is not under their jurisdiction.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    don't forget China and Japan squabbling over a set of uninhabited islands. Rgenweener go to the back of the queue.....again.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    LEP, this is an actual link to things they've worked on, it overwhelms the RG cries over losing an island almost 200 years ago. I don't think they know there is serious things going on in the adult world.

    http://www.un.org/en/sc/documents/resolutions/2012.shtml

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Argentina will spend all her time complaining abt the Falklands,

    All 29 LEPRecon ,,,,,,, listings above will be met at each stage with, what abt the Falklands,

    Yes we know abt Syria, but the Falklands are ours.

    We don’t care if Iran gets the bomb, the Falklands are ours.

    In two years time, the might be calling it the united asylum seekers anemones,

    Or nutters united.lol.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    cripes what will they say if one of the SC tests some self defence missles with a range of 4miles......meltdown

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Can one of you,Lep,poppy or Elaine,clarify for me whether UNSC is important or not.You seem to contradict each other while agreeing with each other.
    What are you saying.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @13 “We”? A “combined” effort then? Do you get one word each? No wonder nothing makes sense. You are now on my “Report abuse” list.
    @17 Argieland has temporarily “joined” the Security Council for a number of reasons. It was the only place stupid enough to want to display its idiocy on a more regular basis. Other Caribbean/South American countries have better things to do. It has been accepted on a similar basis to that used to give the cesspit a “temporary” seat in the G20. Argieland is in the G20 so that real countries could get an idea of what poor places “think”. Even if they have no equipment for the purpose of “thinking”.
    @21 It's only so that a place that everyone thinks of a prat cesspit can PROVE it's a prat cesspit! I trust that that faggotland understands that it can't get involved in discussions about matters where it is “involved”. No mention of the Falklands, British “militarisation” of the South Atlantic, South Georgia, South Sandwich Islands, British Antarctic Territory. All off-limits. So make sure you keep your dozy mouth SHUT!

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    if one was british, one would understand it perfectly

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    The two biggest issues that the UN faces is the Israeli occupation of Palestine, and the decline of the EU economies as a result of businesses going over to China for bigger profits and less maintenance costs.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gustbury

    Veto power should disappear!!. And 3 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos more murderers than the English there, ask Iraqi to name just one example!!greetings :)

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @37 - THEMan

    I disagree, these are not the 2 biggest issues facing the UNSC.

    The 1st one falls under the Security Council, but the second, i.e. the economy, is for the general assembly.

    Israel and Palestine are being encouraged to talk and find a solution, but most of the other situations listed are potential wars that could flare up at any moment and spread killing thousands.

    Only in the past 24hrs North Korea has threatened to target a tourist area (not a legitimate military target) in South Korea.

    If they did that, then South Korea would respond by attacking legitimate targets in North Korea. The situation could spiral quickly out of control.

    These types of incidents are the most important issues for the security council to address. Argentina's attempt to abuse their position on the security council by bringing up a subject that is totally inappropriate for that forum (unless they are planning on starting a war over the Falklands), is pathetic, self-centered, and they should be slapped down if they try it again.

    Argentina, take your case to the ICJ or STFU.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #37....I don't think that is the UN's two big concerns in at all....the first most definitely, the second is free market shifts that's been happening in the USA for years, get use to it.
    The entire middle east it the priority for the UNSC and North Korea grabbing and shaking it's peanut sized balls in the wind. Then trying to stabilize Somalia, and prevent nuclear weapons in the middle east.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    mmmmm
    Either way gentlemen,
    We are living in an evermore dangerous world, that [it seems]
    Will end the only way, we humans ever end anything?
    [War]
    Just a thought .

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    @29

    Hate to break it to you, but non of your dirge is any of our concern. If it is your concern, then perhaps there is a problem with your country. Either it gets involved where no one the fucked asked, or it has a lot of haters.

    Either option is pretty telling about your society.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @42 as a member of the SC it now IS your concern idiot

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    slattzzz GOT is TTT so don't expect logical linkage.....lol

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @43 - slattzzz

    You got in before me.

    But I forgot, Tobias wants Argentina to be completely isolated from the world.

    @42 - GOT

    If its not Argentina's concern then they should resign from the SC, shouldn't they? What they shouldn't be doing is abusing their position.

    Take it to the ICJ.

    Oh wait, Argentina won't do that as you don't have a valid claim to the Falklands and know you would lose.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    I think 42 the RGs only see this as a conduit fro rattling on about the Falklands, and not a chance to do good for the world. why on earth would they want to do that, it's all smoke and mirrors to cover up rampant inflation and impounded flag ships.

    Same old same old TTT

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @38 Difficult to think of more “national” murderers than argieland.
    @42 You do realise that your “comment” is worthless, asinine and pointless. As are all 'argie'commems.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #38 to you it should.....but it won't.

    LEP...the RG's got it in there tiny brain that they can make the Falklands an issue. Statements are already being made that the SC has no tolerance for the Falklands concern of theirs.

    Titti boi TTT always changes is ID's (I would too if I supported cuntina kirchner) but his rants remain the same.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ZooMatt

    Is there anyone in this room who does not speak with such contempt for my country? Personally I'm not proud of my representatives, but beyond that, I'm very proud of my country, Argentina. Here live many honest and good people. And you, whoever you are, have no authority to “cast the first stone”. And I clarify (in case anyone has any doubt), I'm an Argentine citizen who believes strongly that the Falklands belong to their inhabitants.
    It is sad to read how those who speak here with as much haughtiness, have dedicated (in fact.... and you know that perfectly well) for centuries, to steal, conquer, enslave and kill everything in their path. We may be decaying before your eyes (even the world) but, I have something for sure, you are not much better (just check your past). Argentina is a young nation, with plenty of time to keep making mistakes. Governments are temporary, people always stays.
    Fortunately, I have met many friends from the UK, and also people of the Falklands, who are wonderful people. And that was enough for me to don't make the same mistake that YOU're doing... generalize.
    Peace to all. I hope you can understand my message. I really hope it. Greetings

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @49 I have many Argentine friends expressing similar sentiments.

    Don't take a message board so personally. The majority of people here don't like your government - the lying, stealing and driving your economy off a cliff - nothing against regular Argentines.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • britonskare

    @50
    same in the UK Skru da Kueen

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Zoomatt, you should not get so upset by posters here. It stems from the policies of your government. But do not speak of historical actions as we all need to speak in the present. You say you are a young country, do you believe you are younger than the United States? Both continents and countries were sown from the same seed around the same time.
    My wive is a portena, I would like to see more for ARgenitna than what CFK is doing. Today they are debating stealing land from people that worked hard and saved and now have it taken. Just as they stole her pension money.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    TRILLIONS in debt, over half to pensionists, and Argentina steals people's pension... You can't see the woods for all the trees..

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    you make no sense guzz. Why did you leave south america for europe....see the end?

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ZooMatt

    Thank you for answer, people! (ElaineB, Captain Poppy). That's the kind of answer I needed to read. Sorry about my sensitivity. I love my country and would like another kind of government. This is not the time, I guess. But I hope that things can change with our next president.

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    ZooMatt, do not let her get another term. Get out there on November 8th

    Oct 19th, 2012 - 11:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    No, Argentina doesn' give a fark about any of those other issues. Next question?

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Mrlayback

    Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    everyone seems to think you have mutiple under cover names such as Truth_Telling_MickeyMouse aka Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos aka Arifu_Gobakuwi aka Tobias - so who is Christan Gamon from Paraguay?

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    We are everywhere. The Annunaki.

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    does anyone know what overwhelming support means?Lol
    Anything overwhelming couldn't include brits.

    #55 Next president? yea! menem, vidella or galtiery lol maybe just maybe you can vote for bush! CFK got you out of IMF. Why don't you just go back to europe sound like you would be a great boot polisher in the exterior, you already lick them really good, USA loves cheap Mexican labour an Argentine can be just as good. To hope for another president first you must have more then one good candidate, as it stands if elections where to be held tomorrow even if you didn't like CFK you will have to admit she is the best Argentina has, Venezuela had the same dilemma. Three time in a row.

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    60
    That's the reason your arse twitches?

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (18) Tobias & (27) lsolde

    I'm impressed with you two, young ones !
    Both of you have read the Voynich Manuscript !
    I couldn't even get through the first page!.... Nice pictures though ;-)

    http://archive.org/stream/TheVoynichManuscript/Voynich_Manuscript#page/n1/mode/2up

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    60
    Truly sorry for that, “your” for “their”, of course :)

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @60 - PH

    Argentina ran unopposed. If you hadn't got overwhelming support it would've been amusing.

    Yet Argentina need to remember that the are not given a seat on the UNSC to forward their own political agenda, they are their to represent the interests of South America and the Caribbean, and of course, the world.

    Bleating on selfishly about the Falklands will only see them sidelined as rhe rest of the world have bigger problems to resolve.

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    What world are you living in? Why do you hold others to standards your country has never and will never live up to? The UK not one time in its history has done anything representing other's interests. If there is no political, monetary or territorial gain for you, not your problem.

    Who are you to talk to us like that? Remember your origins. They precluded you from opening your mouth about morality, fairness, or international respect. Did you arrest Tony Blair yet? Did you read what Annan says in his book about the legality of the Iraq war.

    Of course not, you are a member of the SKK (Security Kangoroo Council), you are Kangoroo #2, the lap-dog behind the USA (never have stood up to them, ever), and you accuse other countries of lacking decorum.

    You are inverecund.

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    65 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    Typical fcuking Greek, bleating all the while the UK pay for him to survive.

    Without the UK handing out money to every deadbeat we would be much better off.

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    @66

    The UK? Last time I checked it was Germany, France, and Italy that put most of the funds as Euro-zone members. The UK washed their hands. Thanks for bringing that up, bolsters my:

    “The UK not one time in its history has done anything representing other's interests. If there is no political, monetary or territorial gain for you, not your problem”

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    64#Lep.
    Bleating on selfishly about the Falklands will only see them sidelined as rhe rest of the world have bigger problems to resolve.
    You are correct in respect of the UK.they have most problems to resolve with the decolonisation committee and most conflicts in the world today arise from the uk's empire carve-up of the world.

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @68 Yulena

    Stop whining like a women about the big bad UK and grow a pair FFS.

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    yulena, being one of the few thinking mestizo or castizo blogging. What happens when the so called “colonies” do not what to disassociate with the so called ”colononizers? What does the UN then do, force de-colononization anyway? According the the sub committe, their role is to assist colonies in declaring independence and assuming self governing. I do not see how the Falklands at all fits into this category whatsoever. But I am an American and I am sure you will concur, what do I know, we were the original colonies.

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @62 Think,
    Let me clarify that Cher Think.
    What l meant to say, oh pedantic one, is that l have read a book, called the Voynich Manuscript written by G.Kennedy & R.Churchill.
    lt is all about the V.M.
    No-one can actually read the manuscript yet. That is the whole point.
    lt seems either to be in an unknown language, or a code that no-one has been able to break. Or it is complete nonsense. We don't know.
    Now there's a nice little project for your active brain Cher Think.
    l should think that a well versed, well travelled, experienced man of the world such as yourself would have very little trouble in deciphering the V.M.♥
    Please share the results with me, when you've finally cracked it.
    (Hint: some of the letters look Tibetan to me).

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Isolde read the Devon gazette you might learn something there .
    Poppy perhaps being an original coloniser you can answer your own question.As for the 'O T' of the British,the U N de-colonisation com,has past resolutions for the British to follow a certain course.They choose not to do that or to grant independance to territories who are unable to mount an anti-colonial liberation war as your country deemed to be justified.

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (71) Sorry Cher Isolde but…………..

    In my humble, manly opinion that manuscript is not other than a typical hoax from the Middle Ages…….

    There are hundreds of similar “Mystical Manuscripts” from that period that fetched very good prices at the time.

    In line with all those hundred of thousand Middle Eastern “Reliques” containing a splinter of Jesus Christ Cross…..

    Or those magical “Unicorn Horn” artifacts fabricated by cunning Scandinavian craftsmen out of Narwhal tusks that went for incredible fortunes in the old days, especially to English buyers ;-)

    Oct 20th, 2012 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    What ”colonies: want independence from UK? Hell,we want to unload the roachs of Puerto Rico but they refuse to leave our support, ....any suggestions how we can get rid of PR?

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    @74

    How about, by leaving?

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 01:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    you talking again titti boi.....I see cuntina kirchner ordered the sea scouts off the libertad. I hope they brought money for a hotel or airfare. America does not want PR....they want us. If you were a rican your would know that

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Isolde

    @73 Think,
    Yes, that is one possible solution which is mentioned in the book.
    A weakness though, would be that there are no other forgeries of a similar nature, or so the book says.
    Some of the best Cryptoanalysists have worked on the VM, but they haven't put forward that it is part of a larger pool of fakes.
    lt seems to stand alone.
    Another possibility is that its author was insane. Who really knows?
    Well, if you don't know Think, then who could we possibly turn to? :-))))))
    btw- those Unicorn horns that are in private hands/museums would be worth quite a lot of money now.
    Good thing they weren't made by Argentines, you'd be wanting them “back”or “recovered”.
    Thats the way, we're free & easy with our money, Think.

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (77) Cher “free & easy” Isolde…..

    Not many things for Cryptanalysts to write books about since the Rosseta stone and the Enigma Machine…….
    No wonder they keep their cards thight……….
    As our British Resident Book Author, Good Friend and Staunch Malvinas supporter Mr. Redhoyt aka Mr. Lorton rightly would put it….:

    “Just another person with just another book to sell….”

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Poppy
    The puertoricans have voted on seceral occasions that they DON'T want to be part of USA, yet you make them vote again and again...

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    So what you are saying Cher Think, is that you don't know?
    l'm flabberghasted, floored, flumoxed & far from home.
    There is something that you don't know? Mon Dieu.

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (80) lsolde

    You say:
    l'm flabberghasted, floored, flumoxed & far from home.

    I say:
    I know..................., I know.
    That's the effect I have on most women.......
    ;-)

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I guess one indian to another for the PR's .....show me the votes that they wanted other than the USA Navy out and wanted to be a nation? The vote is 11/6/12...and the votes are about pro statehood, which no American wants as well as the PR's. The vast majority of PR's want the “status quo” as is.

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    1967

    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/puertorico/rejects.htm

    Puerto Ricans votes AGAINST statehood

    1993

    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/puertorico/rejects.htm

    Puerto Ricans votes AGAINST statehood

    1998

    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/puertorico/rejects.htm

    Puerto Ricans votes AGAINST statehood

    But what the heck, let them vote until they vote “right”, right?
    What else to expect from your twisted edition of democracy...

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    At 10.00 hrs Monday Timmidman is going to start his historical (or hysterical – depending on your point of view) diatribe to the UNSC regarding the Malvinas (wherever they are) and the despicable Ghanaians who have conspired with the ‘vulture funds located in British Territory' and threatened the lives of the sailors and cadets.

    At 10.02 the Chairman of the UNSC will stop Timmidman and remind him that he must base his claims on the truth otherwise their will be a motion of censure against AG.

    At 10.03 after further ranting from Timmidman, the Chairman will politely ask him to ‘Urinate as he leaves the building’ there’s a good fellow.

    (Timings may alter to take into account the crying of Timmidman into his hankie)

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (77) Cher Isolde……

    Some “serious” reading for this semester……..just to “somehow” understand the “historical” past.
    http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Making-Medieval-Forgeries-Alfred-Hiatt/9780712348157?b=-3&t=-20#Fulldescription-20

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Guzz.....are all mestizo as thick as you? Those, again in big letters ARE ABOUT STATEHOOD. STATEHOOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH INDEPENDENCE AS A SOVEREIGN NATION. That vast majority want it the way it is and the USA is saying “statehood or leave” and the PR's are doing neither.
    PR wants the best of both worlds. For decades, the question of Puerto Rico's status has been hotly and actively debated, with dominant local political parties organized according to a relationship-to-the-U.S. ideology. For 40 years, the political leadership of the island has see-sawed between those who support statehood and those who support continuation of the commonwealth, with roughly 10% of the population supporting independence.
    The problem with the polls, they never ask for EITHER statehood or independence. The vast majority of PR's twant the status quo, the vast majority of American want to stop the flow or roaches:
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-14/obama-wants-puerto-rico-to-decide-statehood-or-independence-1-.html
    Independence is such a miniscule sector. In 1946, Gilberto Concepción de Gracia founded the Puerto Rican Independence Party (PIP), which continues to participate in the island's electoral process. The party has elected some legislative candidates, but has yet to win more than a few percentage points of the vote in gubernatorial elections (2.04% in 2008) or the legislative elections (4.5-5% of the island-wide legislative vote in 2008) There has only been 3 previous votes; 1967, 1993 and 1998 and the next...this November. Each time remaining a commonwealth status overwhelming wins by over 60 and independence gains less than 5% of the votes. Even the ”Independent Party only has 4% of the legislative seats. We do not WANT PR why the hell do you think we get having them vote? If you are the best mestizo's have.......no wonder you are fading, too stupid to know how to repopulate! Argue a point when you understand and know the facts.

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I know what to do, lets ask the Puerto Ricans if they want statehood... Just in case....

    Oct 21st, 2012 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Again for the fourth time it's on the ballot. # questions 1-keep the commonwealth 2- Become a state 3- become an independent nation. The 98 vote only 2.5 % wanted to be independent. Needless to say we where very upset. We really want them on there on, no one wants latin roaches, they are inbreed half breeds and collect welfare.....here, argentina should take them. They don't work and are happy with government handouts! Should fit right in with the peronist

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Have you asked them if they want statehood at least?

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Assuming you read my response you must mean me personally? What kind of a fool minded question is that? I want them out! I am tired of supporting them on welfare. They can't support themselves yet they are always flying back and forth to PR.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @81 Think,
    You're such a stud, Think...................

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Maybe they want statehood then... When are they voting?

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    November 11th. And the same questions will be presented as in 1998, 1993 and 1967........Do you want to stay a commonwealth (territory), do you want to be a US State, or do you want to be a independent nation. As I said, the movenment to be an indepedent nation has never really moved beyond 4% of the population which is reflected in the elected officials as they as hold less than 4% of the elected seats and offices in all of PR.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Poppy.Were you glad to be diverted to PR issue,and back to your racist,used and abuse heroe profile.If the USA,who took in PR,pulled out of PR,how much do you think you would save.Nothing I'd guess,because you are not significant in the whole picture,you just over-value yourself.
    Do you think the UK would pull-out of any of their overseas territories if they were a drain on the UK purse?

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Thats for the name Yulena......I'm truly honored by your profile of me....again, always an assumption. Now have I ever stated I am significant to the marco view? Please point me to that post? But then again it would depoend on what the macro view is that is being viewed.
    Guzz, 11/6....my typo.
    On a simluar note......RG's relaize that they cannot send an aircraft to fly the crew home and are asking neighbors for help......lol Chile offered but RG's are not all that thrilled and asked Brazil for help. What do they say about beggars? Oh yes, they can't be choosers, but RG's do not know that.
    They was going to send Tango One as is it immune.....but it is being repaired.......IN THE USA......lol
    It's really comical to read.

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/114845/gov%E2%80%99t-fears-ghana-will-impound-plane

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I bet the want statehood then, everything points that direction...

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Poppy you kid yourself a lot don't you.Watch today prez debate and post your view as to who wins before the pundits do.We can see how accurate you are or are you not up for that.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Is cuntina debating someone.....I hear she's a master debater....I saw a video!
    I suppose some people need a presidential debate winner to know whom they are voting for. What is your point, you know, I am a gringo and thick headed.......only good for gun toting the the central american countries...that's all we are good for.....ya'll know?

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    You said it poppy.Everyone knows there's a winner and a loser.But you I guess.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    No gringo loses when they can plink in central america

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Poppy
    Have a go at it while you can. Nicaragua is with us and soon the others as well. Your grip on Mexico might be tight, but the will of the people is stronger...

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Apparently you have no clue what I meant. I will leave that go.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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