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UK sees Security Council with “no appetite” to address Falklands/Malvinas issue
The United Kingdom said it did not see ‘any appetite’ from the UN Security Council members to address the Falklands/Malvinas issue, following the election of Argentina as one of the five new non permanent members to the council on Thursday. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat a skilled UK Ambassador compared to the non-entity representing AG.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0January sees a new low in the temporary members of the SC with the inclusion of AG. Rwanda by comparison is a paragon of how to conduct themselves on the world stage.
@1 -ChrisR
Oct 19th, 2012 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed. There are far more important matters to be addressed in the world. Argentina needs to grow up and stop being so self-centered.
That has stamped on the Argentine aspiration on day one.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lol Argentina should start testing missiles in islas malvinas Argentina as well, if the UK want equal rights they can let us lunch them too and maybe after that we can talk none proliferation, but let's build a nuclear defence program to have something to stop as we don't want to disappoint them and have a none proliferation with nothing to offer. Let Argentina build a nuclear defence program so they can negotiate something in a none proliferation table. Not my choice I rather proliferate to defend Argentina from the 100 year illegal British occupation. UKgo back to killing Muslim women and children, that all you cowards are good at. In a hand to hand combat we will never ever know. When will we have justice for Ghadafi and Saddam? Or is it all about stealing resources from african blacks, Muslims and Latins?
Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The kingdom of Kkk will end soon. One tourist at a time. One embassy at a time and one industry at a time, one head at a time. Slowly but surely.
UN Security Council ???? what a funny circus !!!
Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The present World's real powers US,China,Russia
UK and France can not defend even their own security.
The realistic Security Council principal members should be
USA , China,Russia.
the spare members should be
UK,France,Germany,Brazil,India,
plus
one of members from the groups of Africa,Latin America,Turks,Arabs
countries.
if Argentina build a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina UK might be the one seeking a resolution. cowards needs a lot of encouragement.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins2002/2-2.html
&6
Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don't live in fantasy world.
nuclear weapons are useless and not disincentive.
@4 what a delusional twat you are build a nuclear defence program if you want, by the time you do it it will be twenty years out of date and you'll end up blowing your selves up (no loss), stick to throwing nuns out of c130's (if you can get them airborne) In a hand to hand combat you will do what you always do arsehole SURRENDER, when have you ever been in hand to hand combat knobend, the only thing in your hand is your penis. When rgenweener is called on to show that she is really is a member of the security council and volunteer to do UN work and send ships etc to assist against piracy etc we might show you some credence, but even if a Rg tanker and crew was kidnapped I bet you'd just rely on the rest of the task force, sit at home and fuckin whinge that we should not have let it happen in the first place, you are, always have been, and always will be surrender monkeys with no bollocks or right to talk about Iraq, Afghanistan or anywhere else so fuck off back under your rock and let people with some guts to do something about it, sad little twat!!!!
Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder which countries didn't vote for Argentina?
Oct 19th, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Alex you're such a juvenile with undeveloped thinking. You are worse than a puddle pirate. Rather than pirate hunter, rename yourself to puddle hunter, or better yet.....piddle pants.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I cant wait for argentina to take the position, the temptation for self indulgence will be too great for them, and the world will be watching too see how much of a circus Argentina really is, Bring it on!
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 LalaLand.....Cuckkoo Cuckoo.....Islamic extremist wannabe.....it must be fun in your household......fkin fruitcake!
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Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 2... joe bogs aka self-determination
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am scare...what should I do?
@13 put you feet up have a pint and watch rgenweener self destruct......simples
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 - SussieUS
Oct 19th, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When pretending to be someone else it's best to change your syntax. But you probably think that syntax is a tax on sin! LOL
I am not Joe Bloggs, not that it really matters because Joe posts many sensible things that I agree with.
However, why are you scare? Do you mean scarce or scared? It's difficult to tell because you seem to have decided that grammar should be avoided at all costs.
Can anyone tell me if a country has been suspended from their place on the UNSC for not doing their job? If not, I wonder if Argentina will be the 1st country to be suspended for not acting in the best interests of the world, especially South America and Caribbean countries who they are supposed to be representing.
@15
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you confuse
me,,,,,,
britonscare
skru da Kueen!
lol
A nuclear programme for Argentina? They cant even run the nuclear power stations they already have. Atucha? Out of service for cracks in the pressure vessel
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is no haste! The nations of Latin America all support the sovereign claim of Argentina. Even the U.S. remains “neutral”. If the issue would be up to the 200 nations represnted in the General Assembly of the UN, the issue would be settled in favor of Argentina. In 2014 Scots will consider their independence from “Great Britain” (after 300 years !) - thus Malvinas is an issue that also will be considered in due time. Argentina does not need Malvinas to exist. But the conditions for “Great Britain” to hold on to the Malvinas - MOST LIKELY - will become to troublesome. Before the end of this century - the Malvinas will become a part of Argentina: You read it here first!
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 sussie fook off and sponge more money off the hand that feeds you, oxygen thief
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am missing TTT
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please, TTT come back....
We all love you!
Can we request a completely fresh supply of RG trolls please?
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 oh well you've only got 78 years to wait then dickhead. And the Scots will still be part of Britain, enjoy your wait IDIOT!!!!!
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Article says:
“The United Kingdom says it does not see ‘any appetite’ from the UN Security Council members to address the Falklands/Malvinas issue......”
I say:
Well..................
We all know what “appetite” is like ...... Don't we?
@21
Oct 19th, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0yes, here is the latest!
lol
Once again the Brits are making fool of themselves. Lately what they don't want its what's happening.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Im sorry for them, the world doesnt want to eat fish and chips anymore!
Got to love Pirat-Hunter, ever seen anyone so deluded?
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina build a nuclear defense program? Pure fantasy. Argentine neither has the money nor the technology. It will need in excess of 150bn and over 10 years to build something thats passable.
By that time as ever the UK's nuclear deterrent will be again light years ahead.
And if it did have the money or the expertise which clearly it doesn't if it did then launch on the Falkland's the UK would turn Argentina into ashes and Argentina would still lose.
Nice dream though and if I remember last time it was Argentine soldiers that turned out to be the cowards when they massively out numbered the British soldiers and surrendered on-mass to the British.
The UN gets very little done these days, very little agreement on anything and the only members with real clout are the permanent members. Argentina will just be fools on a world stage now as opposed to just SA
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think its going to be fun with them in the security council, we will get to see more and more bizarre and random claims from Argentina.
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And having them in the council doesn't matter at all since they have zero power.
@8 slattzzz
Oct 19th, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Perfectly put.... It will take about 12 hours from a response from PirateCunter as he has balls the size of a peas and like his Libyan compatriots he can only enforce his anger in gangs of mobs because he is a coward pr1ck. He will probably say it can take 8 men twice his size to take him on and that he will hand you your teeth in a bag or some sh1t like that as a retort. I checked him out on Facebook and he looks like he hasn't washed for days, he looks like an itinerant, and if it was mono el mono I would hand feed him his arsehole. He is the product of a typical coward, and has the thug mob mentality. Moreover he is a degenerate pr1ck piece of sh1t coward. I would love to have some time in my gym with him so I could fu*k him up but alas these are just pipe dreams that won't happen because the pr1ck won't come to the UK.
Does that sum it up enough?
@29 oxygen thiefs all of them, wouldn't mind if you could have an arguement with anyone sensible, but as soon as they start losing ...change name...at least we are consistant if they make a point , we put our hands up and say“good point” mind you it's never happened yet so heyho. Can't be arsed with losers especially keyboard warriors whom have never seen war but gob off as if they were at the battle of the bulge, no time, no respect, no nothing, put up or shut up,.....or in thier case change your name ie TTT, sussie us, 2012, pro rg,etc etc etc
Oct 19th, 2012 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 Ottona,
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Scotland will become independent if the Scots vote for it.
The Falkland Islands will become a part of Argentina if the Falkland Islanders vote for it.
No more, no less.
@30
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Darn man, you lie at the same rate as you inhale.
What a pathetic society you are, I really mean that.
@25 Gastoned
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Once again the Brits are making fool of themselves. Lately what they don't want its what's happening.
Im sorry for them, the world doesnt want to eat fish and chips anymore!”
Actually, it looks like your army of the mentally-ill that are making fools of YOU :
@20 Sussie
I am missing TTT
Please, TTT come back....
We all love you!
@15 Sussie
@15
you confuse
me,,,,,,
britonscare
skru da Kueen!
lol
@13 Sussie
joe bogs aka self-determination
I am scare...what should I do?
@4 Pirat -Alex
@6 Pirat-Alex Vargas
* rolls eyes*
Kofi Annan (he would know something about how the UN runs), said himself that the Iraq War was not approve by the “Security Council” (really called the Security Kangoroo Kouncil, SKK).
Oct 20th, 2012 - 04:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0And UK and US reputation in the world thanks to that act of moronicy still has not recovered much at all.
But heck, what doews Annan know. As Clyde 15 said here (in what is so far the quote of the year at Mercorpress) “The Iraq war was legitimate because the Security Council did not pass a resolution to stop the action”. hahahahaha... In other words, according to his brilliant logic countries can go to war for whatever reason as long as the Security Council does not say they can't do so. LOL
Kinda like when Conor J told me, in a related mindset “when I accuse you of something you have to disprove my accusation”.
Same logic both cases. Must be something quintessencially British, that guilty till proven innocent (now I get how they view the rest of the world), legal as long as it is not explicitly illegal philosophy(now I see how they rationalize taking over India for example... no law said it was illegal LOL).
Then you wonder why their history is so depraved and they are so disliked in all continents.
There is nothing wrong with supporting a nuclear defence program made in Argentina, I don't think I am dictating to any other country, as a mater of fact in Argentina we have democracy and we have not only the freedom but also the right to tell any none Argentine mind your own country, we could tell everyone to go to hell but sink to their level,
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0#8,#11,#33 I think I already told you three clown I don't talk to homosexuals.
#18 I don't have 300 years.
#22 Even 78 years is too long, that's why I think a nuclear defence program will solve our little Mavinas Argentinas issue with the british illegal aliens, in less then 10 years members from all over the world will want to talk to Argentina, it will be like CNN asking Iran to come clean with their nuclear defence program. And here is something for you to think about, an h bomb is clean and Argentina only needs two.
#26 dilutional? According to witch dictatorship.
#29 you couldn't have chosen a better Spanish name, I told you if you are such a hero to bring a bag to collect your teeth, am wasting no bag on you. And the offer still stands.
#30 that's what I say put up or STFU.
@35: “witch dictatorship”? Is that the system of government in Argentina?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0PiratCunter
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0I saw your profile on FB. You look pathetic. Here's some advice, take a bath and a haircut, and stop wearing those ridiculous Argentina hats and t-shirts because everybody laughs behind your back at the jerk you are.
Slattzzz summed you up...an oxygen thief. You need exterminating and thrown in a bin for the rubbish men to put you in a compacter.
Nicely put by the UK chappy..
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0It does, of course, hold a deeper meaning.
Its a way of telling the other members that any talks about the issue will be vetoed, so there's no point in them trying to do anything about it.
Its like the USA remaining “Neutral” over the Falklands: they dont need to do anything else to maintain the status quo.
WHy come out in support of the UK when they know the UK is under no real pressure to do anything.
That's Politics for you.
I suspect some of the Argentine (government) posters on here know that, but cant admit it for obvious reasons.
Another thing the Argentine (government) should take note of is how to say something diplomatically without appearing like a whiny child, or pissing off the very people you want to “convince” of something.
Having said that, the UN remains a global joke.
#36 we elected CFK and we hope to be able to vote for her again she is the best president Argentina had in the last 30 to 60 years. If you didn't know that I don't know what you think you are doing here.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0#37 you homosexuals still stalking Argentine guys? I heard of infatuations but you guys take the cake. Why don't any of you homos confront the guy with your problems. Lol
#38 some of us know very well how things work that why I support a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina. There is No point in sucking a pacifier or taking a placebo when you know what they are.
#35 - The only nuclear defense program Argentina could afford would be to hand out shovels and start digging fallout shelters in the parks and backyards of the major cities.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0#34
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you direct me to the post where you say ” Clyde 15 said here (in what is so far the quote of the year at Mercorpress) “The Iraq war was legitimate because the Security Council did not pass a resolution to stop the action”. hahahahaha... In other words, according to his brilliant logic ”
I don't remember posting this - if I did then I unconditionally withdraw the remark as I do not agree with that statement.
So, please supply me with the reference.
Where is our “” Nicolas“” ( one of his new names is Captain Poppy).?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lately commentators might not know who is “” Nicolas “” can be found in Mercopress archives.!
39 gypsy boy
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where do you live then? Give me your address and ill give you a visit. I'll confront you one to one, no weapons. Address please! I have some holiday due so I'll pay you a visit.
I don't really see what the security council are playing at right now, letting in countries who are likely to be on the receiving end of SC resolutions soon.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Latest indications show that there'll be some UN action over the ongoing conflict in the Democratic Republic of congo, and Rwanda are one of the countries arming and supplying rebels there.
Plus Argentina being one Kirchner temper tantrum away from another failed invasion of the falklands. Why do we admit these unstable countries?
39 gypsy boy
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where do you live then? Give me your address and ill give you a visit. I'll confront you one to one, no weapons. Address please! I have some holiday due so I'll pay you a visit.
tonto
Oct 20th, 2012 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0ask to Philippe !
4, Argentina fire missiles towards the FI? now that would be a sign of aggression after 1982, least the UK knows how aggressive your country is capable of being seeing as they did invade the island. In fact im surprised the UK shown such restraint during the conflict. furthermore perhaps Argentina should go back to killing themselves in shall we call it “The Dirty War round two”?
Oct 20th, 2012 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 018, the Falkland will never be Argentina's in our life times and probably never so long as they keep reminding the islanders and the world that they invaded them in 1982, the reasons are mostly political. Blood was split over the islands for them to remain free from oppression to have the freedom to self determine their own future. Argentina stop living the the past as the days of imperialism have gone no more attempting to colonization our islands
25, “http://en.mercopress.com/2012/10/20/argentina-calls-on-ghana-to-assume-its-responsibility-in-the-release-of-ara-libertad”
fool lol at least we pay our debts and soon Argentina will have to
35, i feel he is on about the signs of dictatorship that are coming out of Argentina's attempts at controlling virtually all aspect of life for there citizens regarding their irresponsibility as a country ie media, oil, dollar and there bullying nature in the UN, UK, Falkland Islands, numerous country's in LA and Ghana . the majority of the world do not care about the FI and will continue to remain Neutral statue quo which is what the UK want for its people who choose to be a territory.
39, i guess you would prefer her to be president for life lol the beginning of a dictatorship and you cant even see it
There is little point any LA country developing Nuclear arms/defence as no country in there right mind would ever use them again and use them especially on LA country due to all the nuclear proliferation treaty's
44, there letting jokes of country in now lol maybe they should let the “country” of Sealand in to the council lmao
34 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really are a clown arn't you? Did you not say in another post that the UN security Council was ( and these are your own words:-
What neighborhood? The invade countries preemetively and kill women and children neighborhood? All a bunch of criminals, those represented in that body. fact... I would be ashamed to belong to those countries.
And yet you see it as a great victory that Argentina has been voted into this “neighborhood”
As I pointed out to you then. Argentina should fit right in then shouldn't it?
Now, either the UNSC is a good thing and Argentina is taking it's place beside the right and the good Or the UNSC is corrupt and full of murderers and theives ( in which case, make yourself at home ). You can't have it both ways, so make your mind up and stop your whinning, you're giving me a headache.
@4
Oct 20th, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“In a hand to hand combat we will never ever know”
We do know from the war in 1982 which obviously you have not yet heard about.
Obviously you are too young to know about 1982 when most of the hand to hand engagements resulted in the British troops winning and your Argentine troops surrendering.
It might be too traumatic for you to research the battle of Goose Green where your forces surrendered to a Para force of 1/3the size of the Argentine garrison there.
Or you could study the SAS raid on the airstrip on Pebble Island where the Argentine defenders wisely kept their distance.
I don't remember many Argentine successes in hand to hand fighting but they were quite good at pushing unarmed civilians out of aircraft into the sea.
That is YOUR idea of bravery, but then it explains a huge country like Argentina bullying the Falkland Islanders.
The choice is yours.
It seems that from your brutish ambassador and many posters here you want to discredit our soldiers. And I see nobody is going to fall so down to answer stupity. Keep it going you dont deserve attention, not of our gov that didnt say a word of Benajmin not of us either. We know our soldiers and of their courage.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have to play with our team 14 and 21 of november, pllis insult us, because you give us luck, much luckkkkkk in football.
And second nice to see in the UN a country like Arg, that can have a different say. We have resolved conflicts of dictatorships, made transitions, made pacification but specially made justice against state repression. And that in democracy, and by our own, with not interventions, and with lot of courage too.
Its not easy. Its more easy to go and kill the dictator. The other way is really difficult. But gives real strength to a country.
@4 Hang on, alex, dear boy. You are forgetting the very positive contributions that the UK has made to world peace. Here are some examples: 1982 Killed 649 argie criminals. Wounded a further 1,657. Took 11,313 prisoner. (Mistakenly returned them to argieland instead of dumping them at sea). Destroyed, damaged or captured 1 cruiser, 1 submarine, 4 cargo vessels, 2 patrol boats and 1 spy trawler. Also destroyed, damaged or captured 25 helicopters, 35 combat aircraft, 2 bomber aircraft, 4 transports, 25 “counter-insurgency” aircraft and 9 armed training aircraft. Also halted argie plans to attack Chile without warning. Incidentally, Gaddafi and Hussain have had their justice. They're dead!
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 You know those long cylindrical things that fly through the air and make HUGE bangs. The UK has quite a few. Think about it!
@6 Come now, alex. For all your “encouragement”, what have you and your compatriots achieved in the last 30-odd years? We know what YOU have achieved. You've fled your country. And now, on the basis of facebook, you're a scruffy, unwashed, xenophobic, bigoted, coward with a penchant for sabotage.
@13 Die?
@18 Thereby displaying your immaturity and/or stupidity.
@23 It's what you have just before you vomit over argieland.
@25 Why do you keep fishing?
@32 Take your own advice. Stop inhaling! Stop exhaling! Or even, just stop!
@34 You're quite right. Annan's black. He's also Ghanaian.
@35 But you're a faggot! Sorry, a cowardly faggot!
@39 She's going to be assassinated soon! In the meantime, the greatest concentration of homos is in argieland. Off you go!
@47 Wouldn't it be simpler and quicker to annihilate argieland and all argies? Personally, I favour impalement, but annihilation would be OK. I just like the idea of shoving a steel spike two foot up their asses and then dropping them on it!
@50 Nothing wrong with the British Ambassador. Just told the truth about argie cowards. 11,313 of them. Or is that 42 million?
@49
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Funny, I also remember reading the British Army losing in humiliating fashion twice to unarmed civilians in a backwater town at the banks of the River Plate, in one of the most pathetic and inepts displays of attempted urban warfare of the last 500 years.
Cool your arrogance a bit.
52: if you're so sure of our incompetence why not try fighting the UK again and see how far you get.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@52
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What happened 30 years is somewhat more relevant than what happened 200 years ago. Dont you think?
@54
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It perhaps should be except you Brits don't follow your own words. Which is typical of course. Or do you have selective memory too? (another British trait)
How often do I read here about the glories of Waterloo, Trafalgar, and against the Armada? One time even a 100 years' war battle was thrown into our face as a comparison with the Falklands (can't remember the name).
Don't you see this is exactly what I can't stand your lot? Bunch of hypcocrites who don't even uphold the standards of conduct they demand of others.
And yet one more example, calling Argentina a pariah and a million other names for the illegal war of Agression 30 years ago, yet you yourself commited one 8 years ago, and where is your outrage as a people? Where are your demands for justice? Oh but yes, you call Argentines cowards and recreants for not prosecuting the war criminals of the Falklands.
Again, you are the leaders of the Hypocrite world.
@53
Why should we? We don't want to take over the UK. It is you for 200 years who have tried to steal territory from mainland Argentina. And will continue to try no doubt. You are the ones without any respect for international law, remember.
@55
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So much hatred and insecurity. Get out and enjoy life.
Yes, sorry, I forgot, only the Spanish empire and their illegitimate children are allowed to steal land from south america, no-one else, please, go ahead.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was of course talking about the Falklands, but I guess that wooshing sound was the point rushing over your head... either that or a missile from a t45 during defence practice. Can you tell the difference?
“And yet one more example, calling Argentina a pariah and a million other names for the illegal war of Agression 30 years ago, yet you yourself commited one 8 years ago, and where is your outrage as a people? Where are your demands for justice?”
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting you would bring up this as a comparison.
In 2003 over a million people turned out on the streets of London to protest against the war...unlike the scenes of jubilation on the streets of buenos aires when you lot gloriously invaded a small community of unarmed civilians.
The Iraq war is a dark stain on the public conciousness, it's not something we're proud of and we're just glad our troops have mostly come home. I doubt 20 years from now we'll be minting commemorative coinage and organising nationalistic celebratory rallies to commemorate the anniversary of the invasion, again unlike you lot. You try and divest yourselves of any responsibility for the war of 1982 but you celebrate the date of your illegal invasion ALL THE TIME.
“We don't want to take over the UK. It is you for 200 years who have tried to steal territory from mainland Argentina.”
Errant rubbish. We haven't had any territorial designs on the south american mainland since the treaty of 1850 (well except guyana, but they're more caribbean than anything :P), whereas Argentina is constantly and loudly trying to annex and subjugate a peaceful community of British citizens.
Well big boys rules and you lost.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands is remaining british for the forseeable future.
Only way your getting your greasy mitts on its is persuading the islanders and at the moment thats unlikely to happen
@59
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I want the Falklands to remain under British control. Sorry.
They can't become an independent country because Latin America would not accept it. The status quo is best.
Yep, especially “Roll Over, Lay down”, that's a classic if ever there was one.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#38 some of us know very well how things work that why I support a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina. There is No point in sucking a pacifier or taking a placebo when you know what they are.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well its an interesting idea but i dont see/believe that Argentina has either the money or expertise to produce its own “Home-grown” nuclear deterrent. It would also take a rather momentous U-turn in policy by the current government...although that in and of itself would not be something unique.
In the immediate future, that the Falklands will remain as a Teritory until its people achieve the monetary clout to go entirely independent and become a sovereign nation.... with the power of Oil behind them nobody of any significance will stand in their way.
I do not mean that in a derogatory fashion, just that even if the entire south american block refused to recognise them you will inevitably find that the USA will, and thus will follow most of the “westernised” countries.
By that time I expect that even Brazil would recognise them also, as the split between them and Venezuela (who “own” a big chunk of Argentina via holding their debt) will have grown considerably.
There is an inevitability of conflict between Brazil and Venezuela (politically) and Argentina looks as though it will be on the Venezuelan side of things.... unity over “asking the UK to hold talks” will not translate into unity on all other matters, as we have all seen in the past, and regularly continue to see, all the time now.
The “Malvinas” is a pipe-dream rolled out to pacify the “mob”, in much the same way Gladiators bleed onto Roman sand to pacify that “Mob”... populism, again you see...? It just never works long-term.
And what difference will recognition from the USA and Europe make? Zero. They can't move the islands to between Bermuda and the Azores.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Latin America will not recognize them as a country because they applied to be part of the EU, and that is against fundamental treaties. If they dispensed with that, then probably everyone but Argentina would recognize them.
63 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos (#)
Oct 20th, 2012 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tobias, why should the Falkland Islanders care about whether Latin America recognize their independence or not?
What busines is it of ours?
It seems to me it is the business of the Islanders and of the different countries that eventually DO recognize their independence!!!!!!
@64
Oct 20th, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why should they care? Lets see, 3000 versus 400 million. And they live in the area. Ok.
You people are delusional if you think no recognition makes no difference.
@65 - Tobias
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well there are very good chances that after the referendum next year Chile, Brazil, Paraguay, Uruguay and perhaps Peru will recognise the rights of the Falkland Islanders.
Face it Tobias, the Argentine government has been using the Falkland Islands as a distraction since the 1940's, and I think a good proportion of the Argentine population are realising that. They also realise that they cannot impose their will on the Islanders.
The big question you should be asking is why a country of 40,000,000 are so afraid of having a community, if not one day an independent country in their own right, of 3,000 people? Why does the Argentine government try to deny that they exist? Try to deny them their human rights?
The Argentine government will have to accept it one day, because the islanders have already been living on the islands for more than 180 years, and every year that goes buy just strengthens their claim and weakens Argentinas.
If the Argentine government were truly serious about getting this sovereignty issue sorted they would speak to the islanders, or they would take it to the Internatinal Court of Justice.
It has done none of these things, why? Because the islands are a good way of distracting the population from rampant inflation and inept mismanagement of the economy, and secondly because they know that Argentina has no evidence backing up their claims and the British and Falklanders do.
I know that you don't believe that the Falklands are Argentine, Tobias, but until the government wakes up, stops making excuses for its failures, and starts to put in sensible policies that will benefit all of Argentina, they will continue to wave the Falklands in the faces of the people.
I believe that lately they've waved that issue once too often, and the Argentine people are saying, sod the Falklands, what about us? What about are jobs? What about our savings? What about our future?
It's high time the government starts listening to the people.
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Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0José ?
@66 A good rational post leprechuan with no mud slinging which seems to have become the norm on these boards.Thank you
Oct 20th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Alicia Castro on Malvinas: “The British public is divided”'
Oct 20th, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.infonews.com/2012/10/20/politica-43844-alicia-castro-por-malvinas-la-opinion-publica-britanica-esta-dividida-islas-malvinas.php
'The government denies it, but the Church does not let her talk to Cristina's Basilica Itatí'
http://www.infonews.com/2012/10/20/politica-43844-alicia-castro-por-malvinas-la-opinion-publica-britanica-esta-dividida-islas-malvinas.php
'“This is a winning decade for all Argentines,” said the President in Corrientes'
http://www.infonews.com/2012/10/20/politica-43844-alicia-castro-por-malvinas-la-opinion-publica-britanica-esta-dividida-islas-malvinas.php
@52
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fair comment-the British military have not got a 100% record and embarrasing as this was for the Brits, in 1982 the Argentine army were excellent at threatening their unarmed locals and not long before 1982 were excellent at gouging unarmed priests eyes out and leaving them for dead by the side of Argentine roads.
I put it to you it was the Argentine forces that were arrogant as they swarmed ashore in April 1982 with a large numerical majority over the British (even possessing numerical superiority when the task force showed up), but the Brits reversed their form of 200 years ago (the UK take a fall,improve and move forward), so the result was different in 1982, because unlike Argentina the UK learns by its mistakes.
Personally I applaud the reform of the UN.
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For me, the UN is important for humanity and its progress; reading the UN Preamble and Charter I can read the common good and worth of all peoples.
That peoples have different perspectives on world affairs is to be welcomed and all views should all be listened to with respect.
It is right and proper that Argentina should once again be elected to the UNSC.
My view on the UNSC is that international peace and security is a worthy goal and its mission is valid. However, it has been in practice an imperfect instrument with political bias.
At least observers can comprehend the shortfalls and work together to improve the unbiased performance of its purpose.
They say the people get the politicians they deserve. Is it not up to u sall then to stand up for what is right?
Good luck Argentina. I hope you can help the world make the good and just choices.
“Latin America will not recognize them as a country because they applied to be part of the EU, and that is against fundamental treaties. If they dispensed with that, then probably everyone but Argentina would recognize them.”
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TTT,
Falkland Islanders are EU citizens because they are British citizens, but the Falklands are not and never have been part of the EU. Except for Gibraltar, none of the British OTs are. This is different from, for example, the French OTs. French OTs are part of the EU because they are fully intregrated into France. British OTs aren't fully integrated into the UK.
An independent Falklands wouldn't be elligible for membership of the EU because it's not in Europe.
65 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 20th, 2012 - 08:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why should they care? Lets see, 3000 versus 400 million. And they live in the area. Ok.
You people are delusional if you think no recognition makes no difference.
You were saying about being humble and showing respect?
You're not fit to even tie HIS shoelaces boy. You know, Simon68, unlike you, talks sense, you would do well to listen to what he has to say, but then again, why would you? It's very hard to underestimate stupidity.
I suddenly understand Argentina's obsession with the Falkland Islands, when I read about Argentina's claims of “‘militarization’ of the South Atlantic with regular exercises involving launching missiles from the Falklands”
Oct 20th, 2012 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine government has got it into its third brain cell, that the Falkland Islands are 4.2 km - and not 420 km - off the Argentine coast and fear that the short range (6.5 km) rockets may hit Argentina.
@73
Oct 21st, 2012 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course you respect Simon68, all he wants is an Argentina that is put to grovel in front of the “greatness” of the EU, US, UK, China... or at the very least to truckle slavishly. To be dominated country, to be a country that whose people are trampled by your supposed superiority of genes, muscle, and minds....
hahahaha. We die on our feet, not live on our knees.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself, Tobias.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 04:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0And stop being so melo-dramatic.
We do not want your country.
We just want you to be good neighbours.
Tinx: You are joking, right? Russian equipment was last updated in the 1980's. I know someone in the russian army, they get one hour of rifle training a YEAR.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0USA and China, yes. I 100% agree. But if you believe that Russia is still a world power you aren't very well informed.
75 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yet AGAIN you've are so blinded by hate and wrapped up in the lies you've swallowed that you cannot see. Simon68 does not want to put grovel in front of “greatness“ he wants what everyone wants. A country free of corruption, which gets on with it's nieghbours and is respected by the U.N. Like I said, you would do well to LISTEN to what he's got to say. That's such an important word that I'll say it again. The word is ”LISTEN“ you can do that can't you?
I think that I am asking too much here but I am hoping that if you ”LISTEN” to him ( that word again ) that you might ( hope against hope ) UNDERSTAND him.
Maybe the Falkland Islands should also become a member of the UN. Then the Argentines would possibly start to see that we do exist , are real and want to determine our own future.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No that would never happen because The Un fears Argentina just like the reat of Latin America does.
For a Country so small The people of the Falkland Islands seem to be pretty well educated in world topics. Having just had a visit from several Central South American Countries news reporters they have commented on local radio how well we have been doing. A real eye opener to them and one which they are going to take back to their respective Countries. So it would seem our society has got it right and others in the world now want to do the same. Pity someone is unable to take the blinkers of Argentina. Oppressed people with no real world knowledge.
Looks like the North Americans also see the Falklands as a future world player because one of their companies have invested in the oil fields. The future for the Islanders is certainly looking very bright while back in Argentina the opposite appears to be happening.
Countries around the world seeking to recover their monies owed by Argentina are now starting to confiscate assests.
Makes one proud to be a Falkland Islander . No debts, No crime, Set to be very rich and living the life of their choosing.
Oh and such a nice sunny day to ice the cake.
@76
Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We are not neighbors, though we should just completely stop engaging in any action (good or bad) towards you.
@78
We will never get along with our neighbors, with you, or with the west. You want our destruction, you want our break-up, you want our bankrupcy, you want us weak, and you all insults us here (with tons of lies in between smidgets of gross stereotyping).
I know this may be hard to believe, but those two are non-starters.
And please lsolde, don't repeat yourself. I don't give a darn what the rest of the world thinks of us. I want nothing to do with the rest of the world, you are all immoral and contemptible.
Scene: UNSC....
Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 09:55a.m. EST
Argentina: We are here to see the President on a grave and serious matter of the utmost importance.
Gatekeeper: One moment please. (picks up the phone) Representatives of Argentina are here to speak to the counsel President of a grave and serious matter.
Administrative Assistant to the President: Let me tell the President.
Administrative Assistant: Mr. President, Argentina is here of a matter of grave and serious importance.
Counsel President: Shit!...Again!....Tell them I called out sick.
Administrative Assistant: The President is out sick today
Gatekeeper: I am sorry, the President is out sick today.
Argentina representative walk away hanging the head.....AGAIN ......
Time: 9:56a.m. EST
80 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are entirely mistaken. 'The West' doesn't want your break-up or bankruptcy; why would it? None of us has anything to gain by that at all. In fact most people couldn't care less and never give you a thought, apart from when you start hassling Falkland Islanders. If you were stronger, you wouldn't have to keep on bothering us to bolster your low self- esteem.
I don't think you should be complaining about people viewing you in stereotypes and 'insulting' you. Most people have to judge the Argentine people by the likes of you, because that's all there is on public view. I try very hard to keep an open mind and remind myself that there are more worthwhile people in Argentina than obnoxious little toads like you, but it's very hard. If you want people to stop seeing you as weak, insular, arrogant and racist, then stop behaving that way and set a better example.
Monty I go to Argentina often and there are plenty of good Argentines. These leacherous trolls need to come here and act this way because they are of the “non working for living type” and need to make sure that there bread stciks and empanadas for cuntina kirchner keep coming, else they may have to work for a living.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 083
Oct 21st, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0comment 42 !
Sorry to disappoint light thinker, I have one screen name. I hardly possess the lack of mental faculties to maintain multiple identities like an RG troll of la campora.
Oct 21st, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 080 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0FAIL!!!! actually that's an epic FAIL!!! What did I tell you? “LISTEN” and if you listen, then you might UNDERSTAND.
But as is so often the case, you did neither. You seem more interested in picking fights and feeling sorry for yourself than listening to reason.
oh well....ho hum.
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Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@81 Conqueror/Captain Poppy
Oct 21st, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your irish man jokes are boring....
how about a quickie with Isolde?...your wife
lol
#88 shed some new skin suzzie? I and everyone else know it you. Your stupidity continues to make you think Conqueror and I and the same. There's rumors of a military coup!
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0@80 GOT,
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0I've given up on you. you are just too perfect for us mere mortals.
As l once said, please just go away & end it all. No more sympathy for you because you are a wanker.
@88 Sussie,
So you are someone else today, soozy-woozy. Cretin.
Argentina's tactics on the UNSC will be predictable, but more vital to the Falkland Islands' security will be the attitude of Australia.
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On a related note, September's South Georgia News and Events can now be viewed and featured this month:
- Who Visits, How Many?
- Marine Protected Area; More Protection Coming
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- Bird Island Gets Lots Of New Place Names
- The Ice Project – Search For Endurance And Feature Film
- Wild Trip Of A Lifetime
- End Of The Mooring Line For HMS Plymouth?
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- Alps To Antarctica
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@88 Sussie
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”how about a quickie with Isolde?...”
Sussie, how about a quickie with your Papi????
75 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos (#)
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oct 21st, 2012 - 12:54 am
“Of course you respect Simon68, all he wants is an Argentina that is put to grovel in front of the “greatness” of the EU, US, UK, China...”
You don't have the slightest idea what I want, Tobias, why would I want my country to grovel in front of any other country?????
What would I get out of doing a stupid thing like that??????
What I want is for my country to stopbeing humiliated by our unspeakable “government”!!!!!
1) They've had two ships embargoed for not paying government debts,
2) They've killed 51 and injured over 700 people because of corruption in the transport ministry,
3) They lie to us and the world about Argenina's finacial statistics,
4) They lie to the UN when making their ridiculous statements about the Falklands and “militarization” of the South Atlantic,
5) They attempt to bribe sovereign governments (Ghana) to defeat the rule of law,
6) They go on bended knee to Russia, China, the USA and the UK to ask for investment in the world's third biggest oil field and GET NOTHING,
7) They steal YPF from Repsol after having been a major partner for over 101 years without raising a complaint about Repsol's management.
These are a very few of the humilliations that this mis-government has put us through, and they have made us a laughing stock before the world, Tobias, what I want may not be the same as what you want, but I DO want Argentina to stand up and be counted as worthy country and not as a joke and a pariah!!!!!
93 Simon68
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well said.
The boy needs to grow up and get into the real world; he would soon stop making himself look foolish.
@75
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“hahahaha. We die on our feet, not live on our knees”
Apart from to save the lives of many Islanders why did you surrender in 1982 if you die on your feet?
Your assertions and what happened in 1982 are very different.
Your forces despite having excellent defensive positions or outnumbering the British attackers, surrendered after every battle in the Falklands War.
The UK have a fraction of the number of armed forces Argentina deployed in 1982 and have kept Argentina out for 30 years.
75 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take a long hard look at the post 93 that Simon68 has left. Put your anger and your hatred on one side for 5 minutes and read it.
If you do read it then I'm sure you will agree that what he wants is what EVERY Argentinian would want.
If, as you say that the people here on this forum are “not worth your time” and that “You don't discuss internal polotics with outsiders” then why do you continue to post on this forum?
Well the UN path is now history and another slap in the face for cuntina kirchner's argentina:
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.starafrica.com/en/news/detail-news/view/argentina-readies-evacuation-of-ship-cre-258081.html
95 Pete Bog
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have had some of the best times of my life on my knees but he probably hasn’t had the experience yet. LOL
@93 Simon68,
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0l would like to see Argentina a wealthy, happy, respectable nation also.
Only the people can do it.
@98 Chris R
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LOl!
@97
Timmerman stars in the latest production now showing on news stories all over the world-The boy that cried Wolf!
One day the Argentines will have a serious crisis and go to the UN, again-and be told ' yawn, please go away and conduct bilateral talks, don't bother us with your imagined insecurities.'
That will be when Chile decides that the southern portion of South America would better serve the world being named one country.....Chile and Argentina goes they way of the USSR.
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