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UK launches environmental and climate fund for Overseas Territories
The UK has launched a new Overseas Territories Environment and Climate Fund, which consolidates funds from the Foreign Office, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, and Department for International Development, dedicated to environmental and conservation projects in those territories. Read full article
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Oct 22nd, 2012 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This month:
- Who Visits, How Many?
- Marine Protected Area; More Protection Coming
- Krill and Marathons - GSGSSI Visit To Norway
- Fishing And Shipping News
- Preparing For The Aerial Assault
- Bird Island Gets Lots Of New Place Names
- The Ice Project – Search For Endurance And Feature Film
- Wild Trip Of A Lifetime
- End Of The Mooring Line For HMS Plymouth?
- Bird Island Diary – Gentoo Breaks The Egg Record
- Alps To Antarctica
- South Georgia Snippets
- Dates for Your Diary
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We can take good care of the Falklands.Get back Malvinas to Argentina!
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina can't take care of itself, how could it take care of the Falklands?
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is virtually no Argentine social or economic indicator that is superior than Falkland Island indicators (human development, poverty, inequality, crime levels, etc)
Question of Argentina “taking care” of the Falklands is only hypothetical unless and until the Falkland Islands people wish to change their status as a self-determining community and a British Overseas Territory.
Do I read well????
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It says: ”this is excellent news fo BRITAINS^ albatroos, iguanas, whales and elephant seals, and is a welcomed announcement alongside the Gov recent annouced (can you repet annoucement announced, isnt redundante?)action plan for BOTS biodeiversity”
sorry, but albatroos iguanas whales and elephants seals are malvineses, not british, because they dont live in Britain, neither this ocean is the north atlantic, what happens......dont you have mapssssssssss????
It seems britain is even robbing you, squatters of FI, the fauna.....They are not NOT British and they come to much to our continent, not to Europe.
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Oct 22nd, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina needs to look after its indigenous population who by the way the UN have criticised for removal off their lands.
Argentina would not be able to run the Islands properly as it has not managed looking after itself competently.
Unlike the UK who station armed forces on the islands to protect the Islands, the Argentines would not be able to resist using armed forces of the Islands to subjugate the unarmed civilians.
The Argentine armed forces are expert at harrassing unarmed people, they have had plenty of practice in the last 40 years.
the fauna are the real indegenous population of the isles and of our continent. they do have rights to be south american.
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am waiting for some double-speaking idiot to say that the illegal un/poorly-mapped landmining of natural habitat (a war crime) is proof of Argentina's commitment to conservation.
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Malen, you crack me up. I hope you give French Guineans as much online grief as the Falkland Islanders.
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The phauna there is the typical phauna of Southamerica, it is charecteristic and native of OUR region, you dont have the right to say it is british, neither the right to say you are going to protect it, because it is not yours just because you want it to be that way by force.
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn, I bet if the Falkland Islanders turned around tomorrow saying that they wanted to be Argentine you would greet them with open arms. No longer would you use the term Kelper or Squatter but Brothers and sisters instead.
9 malen
Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's OUR region too, pal. And we'll protect it if we like. How can you possibly object to people saying they want to look after the environment?
And we only need to keep it by force because you would take it off us by force. Why don't you give it up and then we can all live in peace.
Sorry but by force it is because you want it only. Our country is offering dialogue.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Are you saying that the phauna and the region are british ???
ayayaayayayay
12 malen
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course they aren't British. They aren't Argentinean or South American either. They're just animals. They don't do politics.
And you aren't offering dialogue. You're offering to take our country away from us. We don't want to use force; we just want to be left in peace. You think you have the right to threaten us because you want our country. You won't get it.
No Monty they arent just animals, because animals are natives of their habitat. And the habitat it happens to be South America. And it is a matter of geography and of genetic as they are natives of the region.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are animals that live in Europe and there are animals that live in SAM. They are not the same.
What threaten........if you are so confortable been squidmillonaires.
South America isn't a habitat you idiot. It's a human construct describing a geographical area.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you do a little in- depth research and find out what happens to the whales, or the terns, or the sooty shearwaters, when they aren't in the Falklands? Our sooty shearwaters travel as far as Norway. Does that make them European or South American?
2the fauna are the real indegenous population of the isles and of our continent. they do have rights to be south american.”
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok Malen well let the diddle-dee have the vote so they can decide their political alligance.
what happens Montyyyyyyyyyyy you are getting so nervous.....
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We study our country by regions, and every region is habitat for different species. For example pampeana, patagónica, etc. It is very determined by the clima (desértico, árido, tropical, etc) and geography (meseta, llanura, etc). And our Southamerican continent phauna has its own charecteristics, that for ex differs enourmelly from those of other regions like África.
www.voyagesphotosmanu.com/flora_fauna_sudamerica.html
Well you've got to give Malen credit for coming up with an original argument if nothing else.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands belong to Argentina because we have the same birds and grass.
@18 Oh, the territorial claims one can make with that! The big bad US would hold the deed of North and Central America, or would it be the other way around? For that matter, given the cosmopolitan species and migratory patters of various transient animals out there, everyone would be able to own a little patch of everywhere, and don't get me started with invasive species of all types! I could even claim to my neighbors backyard (and then there was that well connected family in Boulder a few years back that seized a neighbors property in total, what they could do with THAT! Own the town? The State? The WORLD!!!) What pandoras box he's opened. Brilliant.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 017 malen
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the primary school geography lesson.
I think you'll find that if you are defining a place by its climate and geography, you are talking about biomes that occur in many places around the world and are very similar in many respects. If you want to talk about specific fauna, then you are talking about ecoregions. An ecoregion can have lots of different habitats.
Actually it's all quite arbitrary. The Falkland Islands are generally supposed to be the same ecoregion as parts of Magallanes, Tierra del Fuego and Santa Cruz. I've also seen an atlas where East Falkland is classed as a sub- Antarctic island. Take your pick.
I can't see how any of this helps you. What was your point again?
@17 I will post it again then.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yawn, I bet if the Falkland Islanders turned around tomorrow saying that they wanted to be Argentine you would greet them with open arms. No longer would you use the term Kelper or Squatter but Brothers and sisters instead.
the point is that the phauna and flora there is native of southamerica of Argentina, not of Britain.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and second Conor I dont want you to be argentine.
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you saying that only species that are indigenous to the South American Continent have any right to be in South America?
Didn't CFK mention the migration of birds in her rambling speech at the UN on the topic of the Falkland Islands? Is Malen in actual fact CFK? In any case, I do enjoy Malen's posts.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah native to South America, something Argentina is not, Argentina is native to Spain. I'am not a Falkland islander but the point is if they turned around tomorrow they would greet them with open arms. Because you Argies will use any excuse to claim the islands which are not yours.
How perceptive of you to notice that South Georgia is not in the British Isles. It is a BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY .
Oct 24th, 2012 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I looked at a map before I wrote this and it was an island approx. 1000 miles from South America. Certainly not joined to Argentina.
As Britain has sovereignty over S.Georgia and the Sandwich islands, then the responsibility to look after the animal population lies with us. They do not belong to us or anyone else. Argentina would be most welcome to join in this venture in as much as it effects their littoral and pelagic waters.
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Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“native of southamerica of Argentina”
The flora and fauna in South America were there before Argentina existed, long before RG and Spanish mates committed genocide on the native indian tribes-so therefore the flora and fauna of South America cannot be wholly Argentine.
@14
“There are animals that live in Europe and there are animals that live in SAM. They are not the same.”
The House Sparrow lives in the Falkland Islands and Europe. So does the Peregrine Falcon.
Malen is right, they're not British animals, as the BOTs are not legally part of Britain. They are in an unequal relationship with Britain, one that should stop in the modern age, a relic of colonialism. They should all become independent or part of Britain proper, depending on the preference of their inhabitants, and we should negotiate with the peace loving President of Argentina about the running sore that is the Falklands issue instead of ignoring it while we steal the oil of a disputed territory
Oct 27th, 2012 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#28
Oct 27th, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct,they are neither British NOR Argentinian birds and animals. They belong to the sub-Antarctic fauna.
The main breeding grounds in question are the Falklands, S.Georgia and the S. Sandwich islands. These are administered by the Falkland Island Govt. or the UK.
You say that the territories“ should all become independent or part of Britain proper, depending on the preference of their inhabitants” .
I thought that these were the proposals vehemently disputed by the Argentine government ?
Either way, Argentina gets nothing.
How can you steal something that already belongs to you ?
I mean where theres no territorial dispute, places like Pitcairn. I'd actually take a more “colonialist” line on the Channel and Cayman Islands to force them to close the tax loopholes! And we should talk to the beautiful and peaceful Cristina about the Falklands, after all she has only demanded talks and is expecting we will bring our own position to these talks not just accept the Argentine one
Oct 28th, 2012 - 06:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0#30
Oct 28th, 2012 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the Channel islands you would have to go back to William, Duke of Normandy to sort that out. I don't think that the UK or France have any serious issues over these islands. A small loophole about VAT for distance selling has been closed.
As for the Caymans I have no strong opinion about “sovereignty”
You go on to say that the peaceful CFK HAS ONLY DEMANDED TALKS“. Demand is not a peaceful word with ”or else......” implied in the background.
She knows full well Britain's position - persuade the Falkland Islanders and Britain will aquiesse with their wishes.
Due to her intransigence she refuses to acknowledge any of their wishes and pretends that they do not exist except as squatters on holy mother Argentina's sacred land..
They are the ones in the firing line. The only outcome she will accept is giving the land to Argentina and dominance of the seas around Antarctica,- including all the islands. For this she will probably say that they can remain British keep their way of life but be under Argentine jurisdiction. This may work for a few years, then the screw would turn. An Argentinian population would be bussed in, eventually outnumbering the locals. A vote would be demanded for full integration into Argentina and be carried. End of story !
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