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UN Security Council says ARA Libertad incident does not endanger world peace

Monday, October 22nd 2012 - 19:20 UTC
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Argentine Foreign minister Hector Timerman began Monday morning his round of contacts in New York to lobby for the release of the Navy’s training frigate retained in Ghana but suffered a first setback when he met with the president of the UN Security Council, Ambassador Gert Rosenthal. Read full article


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  • ElaineB

    LOL! So over-dramatic.

    “vulture funds will never see Argentina kneeled down before their decisions”

    They don't want to see kneeling, just payment of the money owed.

    “President Cristina Fernández was already very clear about it when she said that we are not going to accept any blackmailing from vulture funds.”

    Blackmail? CFKC will not pay the money owed so goods to part of the value have been seized. They don't have to offer Argentina a way out.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Stick together like shit to blanket, don't they, how does one countries bad debts effect the rest of the planets countries. Mans an idiot!!!!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    This amounts to “Piss off, shithead and tell your pre-menstrual whore to get real.”

    Hey, argieland, want to watch the masts being sawn up for firewood? Say goodbye to it. Not yours anymore. I guess it's property of the court. You've abandoned it. How about it, people? Do we want a video of it being chopped apart?

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vectis

    Tinman must have been laying it on thick again.

    “Waah wahh! Dear UN, Britain's about to beat us up again”

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    Tinman will huff and he'll puff and he will.......eventually kiss a55 & pay what they owe, one way or another, Losers!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Modern Ghana News online is following events:

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Seems to me that the UN at, assuring Argentina, is merely facilitating them.

    Argentina is being allowed to use the UN to solicit its demands and interests on the council,

    And thus abusing its position.

    But hey, as its run by fools, what do you expect.

    Argentina will just make it an international incident next.


    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vectis

    UN ambassador, said the 15-member body could not intervene in what was a legal dispute over an outstanding debt.

    I mean that says it all but they will still claim it was stolen from us the precious we wants it back

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Over and over...Rg pols speak...might as well be follow up with...and back in the real world....

    They never get tired of embarrassing themselves...

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    how could the argies endanger world peace? by killing us all in laughter?

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Orbit

    Have a horrible feeling that this is how its going to be from now on. If Timerman stubs his toe on a coffee table, he'll be at the UN clamouring for support against the evil carpenters and their abominable four legged creations. And should the washing machine go, well it'll be the Cuban missile crisis all over again.

    Seriously though, what is it going to take to stop this lunacy? Its like a spoilt teenager with a credit card; spend, spend, spend and then all surly and spiteful when the bill comes.

    And Rosenthal's tone is fantastic; “he and I know” ... so patronising ... I would imagine he was on hand with a “there, there” when Timerman realised he wasn't getting anywhere and descended into tears; “[sniffle] but [sniffle] they are being so mean to me Gert, and now I've got to call the scary lady and she'll be very very cross again”.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    Ha ha ha dont tell me that Argie land uses this excuse of threat to world peace in everything they do? Not just alleged lies about British militarisation?

    Probably, I mean if this is season 1 of the comedy Argie land then I look forward to season 2.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vectis

    I just wonder to what depths they intend to go to on this, the UN members must be getting fed up with Argentina handing out bits bits of paper accusing Ghana of destroying world peace and everyone else of picking on them.
    But do you hear any other country's supporting them NO

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    On the one hand, Timmerman looks like an idiot for being the Foreign Minister who apparently doesn't get what the Security Council is for. But on the other, they've contrived to get the President of the Security Council, their temporary incumbent mucker from Guatemala as it happens, to state that it's a global issue of international law rather than a bilateral one of Argentine mendacity.

    Quite a nice piece of weaselling, really, if you appreciate that kind of thing.

    And maybe even enough for CFK herself to break cover at last, possibly even to greet the conquering heroes on their return home, once they manage to switch them into an Argentine plane somewhere.

    Maybe on video though, wouldn't want a Ceaucescu on the balcony moment, after all.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    “However, “said this, IF the incident involves complying with international law, it is an issue of great concern, not so much as for the Security council as for the country member of the UN......”

    I think the IF is important here. Once they have looked at the facts, rather than the Argentine fantasy, they will see the reality.

    Soothing words for the Argentines, I think. But at least we know how very important the UN is to the Argentine government. Like a child running to tell their parents 'it's not fair!', they ran straight to the UN.

    Out of interest, have any South American countries issued statements in support of Argentina?

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vectis

    i can only hear the wind and a faint giggle from Chile

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • falklandlad

    Some way to go on “liberating” this issue it would seem! Thankfully the UN Security Council President espoused common sense, but it was probably lost on the Argentines.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vectis

    I noticed CFK is keeping her head down on this one so she is not to blame but it will be her greeting the sailors off the plane

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    But, but, but I've come all the way here and all you can say IF it's a problem?


    They never learn do they? LOLs

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lou Spoo

    “Clearly there is an international law problem which affects Argentina, but also the rest of the planet’s countries”

    LOL. Is he suggesting that Argentina, like every other country on the planet, is expected to abide by international law? Some hope!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    I've been in Rosenthal's position. It sucks. Someone with what COULD be a genuine complaint but one that the person should be handling at his/her own level coming to me to intervene in an area where I have no such authority (be it I don't have the “keys” or I'd be stepping on someones toes above me, along side me, or below me). It's clear that the aggrieved party knows this but is coming to me in public to seek “validation.” I can't rebuff, because I cannot make the call. I cannot make the call because it is not mine to make. In effect, Rosenthal has been hockey-checked into a position where he must say yes, yes, it's an issue, please handle it in the proper channels and then point them in the proper direction while everyone watches. If he says no, he's an ogre and non-responsive, if he says yes, he's moving dangerously close to someone else's turf and quite possibly contaminating any process that would lead to a solution. When it's done publicly as it is done here, the plaintiff often has no clue as to how much face they've lost in the drama, and the uncomfortable position they've to whom everyone they send their pleadings.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Back at the Casa Rosada,

    Mad Hatter:
    All I got was a Cheshire Cat grin...

    Red Queen:


    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    Rosenthal is in a very difficult position, he must be biting is lip to prevent himself laughing and NML was $370,000,000 worth of laughs still to harvest!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tompaine

    1. Elaineb - you are an excellent employee for Paul Singer. By the way when will the UK pay it's WWI debt to America since defaulting twice in 1932?Yes, twice. Oh we know that was a long time ago, but like you say, when you borrow you should pay!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @24 T-pain

    Is this what you refer to?

    It seems this is one outstanding loan amongst many and much larger ones.

    It seems Britain, after supporting other nations through two wars (where was Argentina? Profiteering, of course), defeating your pals, the Nazi's, and exchanging many foreign holdings for war materiel, was broke.

    Other countries owed Britain £2.3 m in that period, that was never recovered.
    How much does Argentina owe Britain, still???

    1932 - the world was plunged into the worst financial crisis in history.

    The article goes on to say Britain has recovered it's financial credibility.

    Britain was rebuilding and struggling to feed its people after devastating wars against tyranny.

    CFK ???
    Maybe she needed new imbuing for the Casa Rosada and pocketed the rest??

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tompaine

    No excuses my friend, just pay up!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    The difference is:

    The UK is “good for it”, and they are friends with the US.

    Argentina has told the US to “stick it” and are friends with nobody.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    @ 25 Troy Tempest

    the malvinistas google frantically, pick a single cherry without reading (or understanding ?) the rest of the text and finally rely on the adults to correct their blabber.

    Get used to it, mate.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lou Spoo


    Another feeble attempt by an Argentine to change the subject. What a shocker!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tompaine

    Doesn't sound feeble to me when a country doesn't pay its debt. Can you imagine how much interest has accrued since 1932? Pay! Pay! Pay!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    ”In 1932, in the grip of the Great Depression, Britain (and France) defaulted on First World War debt to the United States – the so-called inter-allied debt. Britain had linked its ending of paying of these debts to the premature end of German reparation payments earlier in the year – academics therefore have termed this an “excusable default” where Germany was the real defaulter. “

    In the present case, I think it's rather clear who the ”real defaulter” is, defaulting not just on the loan repayment but also on the waiver clause.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tompaine

    I say, what's good for the goose is good for the gooser. Just pay your debt like you demand from every one else.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    I say, nice try, but at best it's a false analogy and at worst it's just the usual Argiejihadi practice of claiming that somebody else's guilt makes your own innocence. Take the rest if it up with the court in Ghana. Oh no ... wait ....

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    But we have payed back that Debt, over time plus extra additional charges were added to the WW2 loan. Don't know were you got the idea from that the UK hasn't payed. Anyway on a more serious note Argie land cant even pay for $20 million dollars worth of training vessel. Ha Ha Ha.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lou Spoo


    “Pay! Pay! Pay!” what exactly? Unlike Argentina, who simply refuse to pay their creditors, the UK is not being pursued for debt repayments.

    “In 1931, President Hoover of the United States proposed a one-year moratorium on all War debts, which allowed extensive international discussions on the general problems of debt repayment to be held. However, no satisfactory agreement was reached. In the absence of such an agreement no payments have been made to, or received from, other nations since 1934”

    And you still haven't diverted anyone from the fact that the UN Security Council just bitch slapped Argentina in front of the international community.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tompaine

    Oh, I get it! Your'e not going to pay then. How do you spell hypocrite? You are just a bunch of tools for Paul Singer. Well paid too, I bet!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    Perhaps you should check out the status of the debt with our supposed creditors?

    Otherwise, why not get back to us when our national flagship gets impounded.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    36@all argies are tools, they should be shining my shoes.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ptolemy

    @ Tompaine
    If you keeping reading you find your answer. (Try Google.) Here's a hint: “There are still World War I debts owed to and by Britain. Since a moratorium on all debts from that conflict was agreed at the height of the Great Depression, no repayments have been made to or received from other nations since 1934. ”

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lou Spoo

    @ 36

    You just can't form a valid argument can you?

    Your Foreign Minister is incompetent. Your President is in hiding. Your vessel is STILL in Ghana. The best you can come up with is to call people names?

    Argentina has been elected to the UN Security Coucil for 4 days and has already raised two issues of self interest. BOTH of which have been thrown out. Better get used to being humiliated because I can see a lot more coming your way!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tompaine

    I doubt anyone is going to impound an American ship! Paul Singer is one of the billionaires trying to buy the American election by supporting Mitt Romney. Every since our right-wing Supreme Court came up with the Citizens United ruling, scum like Singer have been trying to buy the presidency. If you and your kind want to kiss his ass, go ahead. Not me!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John


    observing that you haven't read the article you yourself linked to, read it and give us the figures missing in the below:

    Britain owed to US in 1934: £
    Adjusted by RPI to 2006: £

    Other nations owed Britain: £
    Adjusted by RPI to 2006: £

    Deficit or surplus?

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    he's an argie, he can't make a valid argument, his logic is in the same level as the one of a monkey in a zoo.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund


    Singer is an asshole. Therefore the Argentine government can't be an asshole.

    Explain what is wrong with this logic.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lou Spoo


    LOL. That's an unfair comparison on the monkey!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“Argentina has told the US to “stick it” and are friends with nobody.”“”

    they are friends with Chavez and Venezuela.

    Amazing how some of you chaps LET yourselves be side-tracked into discussing WW1 debts though... why bother? Its only a deliberate side-track, and you fall for it every time.

    “”“”Argentina has been elected to the UN Security Coucil for 4 days and has already raised two issues of self interest. BOTH of which have been thrown out. “”“”

    They arent exactly covering themselves in glory are they?

    Still, they dont really care what “the international community” thinks about them, so i doubt it bother the argentine government in the slightest... their only concern is their own appearance in the yes of the local electorate.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    So Titterman has been told to bugger off by the SC! I would have thought by now that he would have leart to stop bleating and actually take some action.

    The UN has no authority to order Ghana to release the Argie ship so why he is bothering. It is not even the Ghana gvt that is holding the ship but a court ruling. As such this is not a dispute that belongs at the UN or even the ICJ. This is a dispute between the Argies and one of their creditors. There are three ways for the Argies to get their ship back.

    1) Pay the $20m and then docking costs.
    2) Challenge the ruling in the Ghanain courts and get a sucessful outcome to overturn the impounding
    3) Seek international arbitration that the creditor signs up to.

    But no, the Argies prefer to shout any committee they wish and get the hump when they are not even given the time of day.

    Argentina, the spokespeople of disappointment!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    45@ you're right. I will apologize from all the monkeys in the world, sorry.

    After all monkeys have dignity, responsibility and they are social creatures who take care of their own. These features don't apply to argies.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos


    “LOL! So over-dramatic.”

    “vulture funds will never see Argentina kneeled down before their decisions”

    And then you said:

    “They don't have to offer Argentina a way out.”

    If you weren't British I would say you just utterly contradicted yourself. Since that is your essence as a society, British contradiction is a pleonasm.

    Melodramatic, but “no way out”. How would you react if they point a gun at your head when you are cornered in a wall with “no way out”, and I said “don't overreact”? Think before you write.

    You expressly want Argentina's people to pay billions to satisfy a few bankers, knowing full well that will lead to indigence and perhaps even hunger.

    These are the people you side with just to get back at Argentina:;contentBody;contentBody

    Muppets in London, wripping your clients face off in New York... taking the savings away from European and American seniors, “red-lining” working and poor class people for unpayable home loans, LIBOR, Madoff...

    You don't seem to get it do you. Not only did these ANGLO-SAXON bankers steal, lie, cheat, fudge accounts (all and more of what you accuse argie politicians of doing), they insult YOU because they see you, the British public (and any other), as fools.

    And to top it all off, you bailed them out!!!

    And after the spit on you, caused a massive financial crisis for your country the UK, and you still bailed them out with your money... they are doing it all over again.

    And for the red cherry, you still side with them.

    Imagine if I were you, and after all of the above still stood behind these bankers... You berate CFK supporters for still standing behind her for much less than those bastards have done and still do. What would you call me?

    I think I have the right to call you an ingénue fool, pace real ingénues (who at least have the excuse of being young).

    Sad, sad...

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    TP is that you tittiboi with a new name. Guess what, the USA was not seeking judgements and demanding payment. Go back to your jungle tribe.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    19# oh look, it's the pedo again

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    Argentina tenure at the un security council does not start until jan 2013

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    i meant @49

    pedo is writing sheer bullshit as always.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    You have been reporter for laying out an extremely serious accusation at me. And I never report anyone. But you went over the line, too bad.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    54@ shut up pedo!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    Reported again... You like being a fool too huh? Poor fool, those bankers will take everything away from you, and you will bail them out again. what a bunch of losers.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    56@ shut the fuck up pedo!!!

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    And where are all the indignant Brits who said accusing someone of pedophilia was a major transgression? Remember that?

    British Hypocrisy, another pleonasm. Plenty of them, that's always a bad sign for a society.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    58@ there's a difference, i'm not accusing, you said it yourself dimwit.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    I said none of the sort. I said “I don't date argentine women”. How does that support your accusation.

    British liar. Guess what...


    Keep making my point about why I treat the British with no respect.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999


    this word has many meanings:

    1- the spanish word of fart

    2- spanish word that means when someone is drunk or drunk as hell

    3- spanish word that is often use to salute someone

    4- spanish word that means problem
    1- “¿Quien se echo un pedo?” = “who have just farted?”

    2-“Ese wey se puso bien pedo.” = “That dude is drunk as hell”

    3-“¿Que pedo?” = “Whats up?”

    4- “Tengo un pedo con un cabron” = “I have a problem with a dude”

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    60@ you treat the British with no respect? they must be really scared of you, pedo.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    You know, sometimes it is true that more or less.

    Me, with all my vocabulary, rhetorical, informational, situational, debating, logical, and current event prowess.... none of that could achieve what I am achieving now with so little said.


    British equivocation and prevarication.

    Another pleonasm.

    In 10 minutes you are on your own confirming all my claims about British character guys. Great intro to my evening.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    63@ you forgot your medication pedo, it's all jibber jabber that comes out.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    If I were British I would never show my face here again after this humiliating display. That include Agent999 who far from condeming the behavior of his compatriot, brings up a zany and ludicrous equivocation that “pedo” does not mean what we all know it means. Worst yet, he uses Spanish as the cover... when this website is in English thus none of those equivocations even apply.

    And the behavior we see here both Hook and Agent999, and all the rest, is why the Anglo-saxon banking system did this:;contentBody

    Who should be surprise the culture which provides the milieu for people like Hook, produces such turpitude like that.

    Hand in glove.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    65@ i am still not from UK.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “Keep making my point about why I treat the British with no respect.”

    because you are a xenophobe you mean?

    Yes, it is hard to miss.

    One wonders why you are so proud of it though?


    “British Hypocrisy, another pleonasm. Plenty of them, that's always a bad sign for a society.” isnt pleonasm “Giorgio”... pleonasm is the use of too many words (or parts of words) for the same meaning.

    The use of the term “Pedo” is simply somebody being a twat... lacking sufficient vocabulary to put into words their utter contempt for you and your various pretences.... or they just fancied cutting right to the chase and avoiding typing a lot... certainly the sentiment remains the same whichever route is taken.

    “If you weren't British I would say you just utterly contradicted yourself.”

    Hmm, talking of pleonasm.. nope, that just plain tautology .. actually, it isnt even that... its just nonsense.

    You cannot “Utterly contradict” something, you either contradict it or not, there is no “extent” of it. Surprised that el-Thinko hasn't taught you that... (Oh my!)


    Giorgio: You are, btw, once more giving away who you are: you keep slipping out of your *current* persona. Try harder to maintain the different style, otherwise it will soon be obvious to everybody (Actually, to be perfectly honest {did you see what i did there?} I think it is fairly obvious already)

    {ooh i did it again!}

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    The Libertad has enough supplies to last 3 months minimum for 50 crewmen. If needed, Argentina can call on the International Red Cross to assist with to the crew’s well-being. Ghana cannot legally refuse or block this. Hedging that the corrupt Ghanan judge and the Voltures were counting on a quick payoff, it seems to me that Argentina is buying a whole lot of time and will sit this out. I am certain the captain and the crew that remains are just proud with staying on board for as long as they are needed. It is their duty. They are part of the professional full time crew. The Captain and the vice commander very likely know how this will be played out or at least been advised to have everything in place and be on standby for further orders when a decision is made. It gives Argentina a whole assortment of choices now.
    It seems to me that Tena Harbor may become too unsafe to enter in the coming months.
    This is a great opportunity for CFK to score some brownie points all around.
    THIS WILL CERTAINLY GET VERY INTERESTING. I wonder if the corrupt judge and Volture fund hoping on a quick extortion payout ever contemplated this?

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    68@the only thing corrupt here is the Republica Banana de Argentina

    the Land of Loosers.

    Oct 22nd, 2012 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #68 suzzie what happened to the vessel being on it's way Thursday of the week it happened? Unsafe harbor, what is Argentina going to be militarily aggressive to Ghana over creditors debt collecting and them applying international law? First off, Ghana has a pretty good Army and Navy, second, who's military is Argentina renting? Black Water?

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Frank

    @68 Considering that she had a crew of 200+ I am sure there are plenty of vittles aboard her. Ghana wouldn't be a place where most would store ship.... Capetown would have been the next place she would have been doing that.
    Get the Red Cross to feed the crew? Jeeze you talk some total bollocks.
    There is nothing to stop the captain going up the road and buying tucker from the local supermercado ... assuming TMBOA has sent him some US$$$
    If not... then when the money and the tucker runs out the crew will run away and the captain will be reduced to selling ship's fittings to feed himself.
    Seen it all before... its very sad when an owner abandons a ship and its crew...

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    You want to discuss with me the definition of pleonasm? What a laugh.

    You yourself said it, the logic simply escaped you, a pleonasm is the use of TOO MANY words for the same meaning. Thus, “empty vacuum” is a pleonasm, even if it is just two words.

    Feel free to reply, in the end the more you people yammer the more you dig your own public relation graves. I posted a damning message about the bankers you all support so much, how they are screwing you all as much as us (if not more), Hook calls me a pedophile and all that you have done is find excuses and deflect the topic.

    You are a nauseating bunch of people.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John


    Albinovanus Pedo: Roman poet
    Pedometer: a device that counts steps a person takes
    Pedology: study of soil
    Pedometrics: study of soil formation
    pedon: smallest unit of soil that exemplifies its character
    Pedobarography: the study of pressure fields acting between the plantar surface of the foot and a supporting surface

    Did you confuse it with paedo? - as in 'paedobaptism' - the practice of baptising infants.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos


    How pathetic, this is just so contemptible. How low of character from all of you, and yet it was you all who showed such indignation when one of your own was “supposedly” called a pedo (in fact, the person that made that statement clearly said “Let's supposed I call you..”)

    Here we have Hook repeatedly calling someone a very serious charge, and none of you have the guts to call it wrong, because he is one of your own.

    You people deserve every single solitary assault by me, and more.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    My thoughts on Giorgio:

    I believe Giorgio to be a polysyllabic holophrastic verbalist in the making, who purposely uses uncommon words and a form of sesquipedalianism to distract attention away from particular arguments and divert them to a more egotistical arena, that being of “comprehension of vocabulary”. He tends not to repeat the uncommon words he uses, which lends me to believe that he is merely “word dropping” in the belief that it gives him some intellectual edge over others posting in these forums. I believe that he experiences some kind of euphoria and superiority when using these words around his antagonists.

    Of course, by using uncommon words, whether truthfully known to him or by the power of Google (or Thesaurus) he is in fact proving nothing about any skills he may (naturally good at scrabble), or may not (good at scrabble only if playing it online) possess.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    75@ the funny thing is, that it doesn't matter how sophisticated words he uses, it's still nonsense without any logic. He's a moron who doesn't have any social life nor sexual life.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    CFK calls these people Vultures, her minions on these boards copy the language and repeat it ad nauseum. It's so transparent what you guys are up to, many on these boards might have weird or misguided opinions, but at least their our own, i pity you.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    I think the argies are holding out for a bargaining chip to use to blackmail the Ghanaians into releasing the ship. The Argies have nothing they want so I'm guessing they will try and pressurise one of their neighbours that has interests in Ghana to do this on their behalf. It would be very risky for a third party to allow themselves to be dragged in to this. Is Brazil that stupid?

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    So let's get this straight:

    1. Argentina took loans and as part of the terms accepted that it coould not claim sovereign rights to its goods to protect them from being taken should they default on these loans.

    2. Argentina defaulted on the loans, all bar a few that held out for their full entitlement.

    3. Now that the loan holders are claiming their money in accordance with the original agreement, somehow they are 'vultures'!

    4. To compound all of this, Argentina is complaining that it doesn't have access to international capital markets all down to some sort of conspiracy!

    The Argentine arguments don't stack up at all. Vultures usually only attack the dead and dying - yet Argentina is booming, according to Indec. And if you want to take part in international capital markets and have inward investment, best not to fail to honour your debt obligations and expropriate foreign assets.

    At what point will Argentina see that its problems are not external vultures and capitalist conspiracies, but internal mismanagement and greed?

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Santa Fe

    haha great news UN Security Council says ARA Libertad incident does not endanger world peace.

    As someone said, the Rgs have been on the council 4 days and already used it twice for self serving use, 4 days!!!

    Lets not let the multiple user named trolls distract from the headline.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lou Spoo


    LOL. You mean he's not a genius??

    I reckon somebody gave him a 'My First Thesaurus' for his birthday.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    This is so village. They didn't even try and find out which was the right forum to complain to before lodging their complaint...this wouldn't happen in a serious country...

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @82 - Welsh Wizard

    Because they are now on the Security Council, they somehow thinks this makes them all powerful, so of course the logical thing (in their minds) was to take this issue to them.

    The truth is all this screeching at the UN is for domestic comsumption. Basically they are trying to fool the Argentine people into thinking that they are dynamic and actually 'doing' something, when they are in fact just rehashing the old smoke and mirrors routine.

    The only real course open to the Argentine government is to take this to the International Court of Justice. They won't because they know they would lose.

    So instead they just humilate themselves on the world stage.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    Ach mein GOT(t)

    Throwing your toys out of the pram again!
    A bit of fun, as my comment @61 was meant, has you foaming at the mouth and making stupid remarks like :-
    “And the behavior we see here both Hook and Agent999, and all the rest, is why the Anglo-saxon banking system did this”

    You really are a sanctimonious prat.
    You are so insecure you have hide behind so many aliases.

    Your self proclaimed superior vocabulary and word knowledge impresses no one - but if helps bolster your own ego by all means carry on with it.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Lou Spoo


    On the plus side, each time Argentina raises bilateral/domestic problems as 'Global issues' with the Security Council/General Assembly the more the SC/GA will start to realise what the Falklands/UK have had to put up with.

    I would imagine that pretty soon anything Argentina says will seen for the self pitying claptrap it actually is and simply be dismissed.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Have they not got their boat back yet? Ca alors...........

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @20 Actually I viewed the “comment” in a different way. What others of “the planet's countries” owe millions or billions and make little effort to pay them off? What other countries ALWAYS accuse others of being in the wrong when it's actually them? What other countries habitually go for arm-twisting, bullying and any other form of coercion it can think of?
    @24 Some thoughts. Did Britain “default” twice in 1932? Didn't the US president hand out a moratorium? And isn't Britain owed a lot more? So when other countries pay the UK, the UK will pay the US.
    @26 Good idea. Now your country owes us a lot of money. Pay up! WE are members of the Paris Club. Argieland owes US$6.7 billion. In 2008, argieland said it was going to pay. It hasn't! Nigeria has. In full!
    @41 Off on another tangent!
    @49 You don't seem to get it. Whatever someone else has done somewhere else in the world, it's not a justification for you to do it. Think it through. 20 June 1994, there was a terrorist bomb attack inside the Imam Reza mausoleum in Iran. Therefore terrorist bomb attacks are justified. So why do you whinge about the bomb attack on AMIA on 18 July same year? In 1831, someone called Luis Vernet seized three American sealing vessels, the Harriet, the Breakwater and the Superior. He had no court order to do that legally. But the ARA Libertad has been detained under a court order. So you whinge about somewhere else doing something legally that you've done illegally. How does that work?
    @58 I don't understand your problem. WE “Brits” have heard of “paedophilia”. That's because WE use “English”. What are you using? Isn't pedophilia an interest in walking?
    @65 It seems that your main interest is in diverting a “discussion”. Why not stick to the subject? In English!
    @68 The court has refused permission to refuel. So it's 3 months' of salad! Here's a thought. The court has also ordered that the ship's papers be surrendered. Nothing to stop the court ordering it removed from the water!

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos


    Call me what you will, you are still dishonorable for not standing up to one of your own, which proves what I have always said, the British do not believe in justice, or fairness, or objectivity, or anything remotely associated with those virtues. It's a cultural thing.

    And 2nd, you are all Muppets. But I will use that word with a capital M. The least one can do to talk about a whole society. Muppets who have someone's hand deep up the main orifice, seem to like it, and defend it.

    The bankers are right about UK, EU, and American society. You are such idiots, blindly following them to your ruin. Ultimate suckers.

    And then all of you have the temerity to say Argies are sequacious behind CFK. How ironic!

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @88 - tobais

    The Ghanaians still have your ship. Try commenting on that.

    If you're too embarrased to comment on the fact that your government is constantly embarrassing your country, then don't post at all.

    Become a hermit, instead. What you shouldn't do, Tobias, is take on yet another 'persona' and try to pretend that you are African, Chinese, Australian or other nationality because you erroneously believe that it will somehow give your argument (or lack thereof) more credibility.

    Then again, your multiple personality disorder is very amusing too...

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Cretina - just pay the man his money. Your reserves cover the amount involved! And, by the way, you still owe Britain several millions since the days of the military dictatorship - pay up!

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    Really? So why in the stories about the UK you brits deflect the topic to Argentina?

    Don't tell you are caught again in hypocrisy???

    Deflect, deflect, deflect, here and there. Even in the topics of the UK austerity protests and the government instability all you can do is deflect.

    You know, you people are so sad. I'm three steps ahead of you morons.

    Some of you really believe I am trying to “hide” behind other names a nationalities... hahahahahaha. It's like I'm dealing with 2nd graders, to whom you say “I'll do magic and make this banana dissapear from my hand”, and you tuck it under your shirt.

    The children all shout “no it's under the shirt!”, and they feel all smart and sagacious.

    2nd graders, calm down. I'm not using any “personas”, look of the definition.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook


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  • LEPRecon

    @91 - Tobias need to keep taking the medication, or even double it.

    Your giant (snigger) intellect obviously can't cope with the embarrassment of being Argentine anymore, hence why you are denying that you are Argentinian and pretending to be African.

    Poor Tobias, your back is to the wall, and you are so brainwashed that you perceive any attack on your government as a personal attack on yourself.

    Poor Tobias, is your prescription medication stuck at the border waiting for the hospital to export goods to a similar value?

    Oh, and Tobais, the Ghanaians still have your ship. Your foreign minister is still embarrassing your country by begging at the UN, and your 'Dear Leader' CFK has abandoned ship (quite literally), and your flagship at that.

    Surely you have an opinion on that?

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    88G-O-T - If the British have no Justice,Fairness,Objectivety - can you please explain why do the majority of nations of the Br Commonwealth have a legal system largely based on the british one?
    Would you care also to list the number of times Britain had gone to war to aid other nations on the basis of Justice,Fairness and Objectivety?
    Britain declared war on Germany in 1939 because UK had a Treaty to honour and support - with Poland.
    Britian beat Argentina out of the Falklands in 1982 on the basis of Justice and Fairness - Arg had invaded and occupied people,s homeland against their wishes.

    Why do so many flee from the Middle East and Asia and Eastern Europe - and go to Britain? For a safe life with Justice etc etc!

    You do write such twaddle.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook


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  • agent999

    @88 @91

    Still throwing your toy out of the pram then.

    Did we hit a nerve then by insulting your great intellect?

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    This is the perfect moment to build a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina to stop the theft and threat to our democracy, this way UN will have to ask ghana to solve the theft and stop nuclear weapons proliferation. If ghanas can high jacked a navy ship and demand for ransom and not face UN punishment
    Argentina should build a nuclear defense program to take our ship home and not fear retaliation from terrorists nations making up lies about WMD and killing innocent women and children to theft natural resources around the world.
    before the CFK couple took office everyone else with out exceptional took part on the theft underwritten by IMF, we are not paying corrupt nations who use the money to finance terrorism and make up lies about WMD while trading weapons with CIA, mossad and mi6 operatives, sorry dudes, but No english speaking person have any higher moral ground to be asking or telling Argentina anything. Stop killing innocent Muslims women and children for oil resources to hope for one day have the higher moral grounds to lead by example rather than by dictatorship, war mongering and thugery. CFK keep up the good work we support you 100%.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • THEMan

    @91 Tobias Since you're claiming to be intellectually superior yo everyone posting here today, why don't you comment on these issues, providing your opinions on evidence?
    1. Scotland gaining independence will have about $2 trillion's worth of oil reserves, supported by international law.
    2. Donald Trump's campaign against the residents on the Menie Estate in Balmedie.

    Research a little, and voice your opinion. Would like to hear it.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    98@ my dog is more intelligent than this chump

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    91 Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    “You know, you people are so sad. I'm three steps ahead of you morons”

    You know what? You're right! I bow to your breathtaking hypocrisy. Never have a met someone who uses so many words to say nothing at all. All hail the King turd of sh*t mountain!!!

    You say that the other posters here “waste my time” yet you STILL post........ why? if we are such a waste of your intellect, why are you now sorting out the middle East? why do you continue to post? Like I said to you before, this is attention seeking then. You yourself are unable to form relationships with REAL people and instead rely on hiding behind a false name on the internet to “get one over” and insult total strangers to gain some sort of feeling of self worth.

    You have already admitted that you don't date Argentinian girls, I can only assume then that you are not having s*x as often as you like either. Certainly, from your misplaced superiority complex, you have few if any friends.

    Did you learn anything from Simon68's post? You seem to take great pride in falling out with your own countrymen, particularly with those make much more sense and have A LOT more to contribute to this forum than your own inane ramblings...

    My last thought concerns your comment at 72 Giorgio. Well, Norton Juster once said “A slavish concern for the use of words is the sign of a bankrupt intellect”

    It's as plain as the nose on your face that Argentina, it's government, it's people and it's culture annoy you some how. I think that is where you get your misplaced agression from. It must be hard to live in a country that you hate, surrounded by people that you hate......... That is all that you have learned how to do isn't it? Hate??

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    Does anyone know if Argentina is still refusing to pay the Ghana, the docking fees?

    'The port authority said the Libertad’s extended stay was causing it “considerable and substantial hardship and financial losses” – six days at berth 11 cost nearly $22,000 – and could result in ships having to be diverted to neighbouring countries or shipping companies slapping on surcharges that would end up boosting import costs. It wants to move the Libertad out of the berth and anchor it elsewhere in the port. The court is expected to rule on the motion on October 25.
    “There is no likelihood that the said vessel will be released from detention any time soon . . . there is therefore every likelihood that this purely private commercial dispute . . . may linger on for a long time and the Ghana Ports & Harbours Authority cannot be saddled with the burden and inconvenience” of having the ship continue to occupy a busy berth, the authority said in its filing.'

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    hey puddle hoppere, does momma know what her little alex is up to? Saying something stupid like starting a nuclear defense won't make it come true......say it until the sheep arrive in your bedroom. Your desperate screams for attention is heard by no one but your momma's nipple in her Canadian slums.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @101 I am guessing that as CFKC has abandoned the ship, NML may step in and pay the port fees. They already offered to do so.

    Did you hear how many Argentines are annoyed that CFKC has decided to abandon their property, their Flag Ship, as if it is her own?

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    This is the reason all Argentine's need to support a nuclear defense program, Now can everyone see why Argentina needs to build a nuclear defense program, if Argentina builds a nuclear defense programs we can argue that it was the theft of our navy and the 100 year illegal occupation of Islas Malvinas Argentina, with the sponsoring of UN that pushes us to start a nuclear defense to defend Argentina from international pirates, murders and thieves.
    CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%
    Let's all demand and support for a nuclear defense program 100% made in Argentina.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Yeah let's puddle hopper. It will be a justified reason to strike Argentina. When you have money, request an audience with cuntina and make your pitch for a nuclear defense. You can more likely afford to pay it the Agrentina

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    103 ElaineB

    Is there any case for the port authorities to possibly sieze the ship in leau of Berthing costs?

    If TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / KFC is telling everyone that she will not give in to “Blackmail” then can the Ports & Harbours Authority do with it what they may? to recover as much of their costs as they can?

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    the mighty CFK has friends in high places.
    her mate lives on the 22 floor.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Argentina will have to pay up in the end and no doubt will have more good seized. It just goes to prove that you can run but you can't hide from your debts.

    The Tin Man is left looking rather pathetic again.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    She will now abandon this poor little unarmed lonely sad ship...
    And persuade her people it was nothing of interest.


    Poor little ship,
    Another abandoned orphan of the seas,

    Shame on you CFK, shame on you..

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @103 I am not sure about that. Possibly if their laws allow it. I suspect Ghana wouldn't want to go down that route if there was an alternative. They have applied the letter of the law based on the NML's lawsuit. And although Argentina appears to want to malign them and paint them as the enemy, they don't have a dog in this fight.

    At this point the ball seems to be back in the court of NML. Will they seize the ship? I would not be at all surprised if they cough up the port fees. They have no argument with Ghana.


    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    this the reason Argentina should build a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina. If CFK announced the building of a nuclear defence program UN would be demanding to meet with Argentina and at that point we can demand the return of our ship and Islands Malvinas Argentina in exchange for disarming 50% of long range missiles an in turn get them weapons solf to Libya, Sirya, Lebanon, Palestine, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, N Korea and Yemen.
    CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%

    But I think Argentina can gain a lot more by writing laws to expropriate land and busynesses from english pirates from USA and UK to later use the cash to build a nuclear defense program.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    When you get your very own world empire and headed by you.
    You can do as you wish,

    But until then,
    Please pay up, and stop the humiliation.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #112 no empire needed just a good nuclear defence program made 100% in Argentina, Pay for ?.. lol that's a good joke! did you find the WMD and stop murdering innocent muslim women and children for oil?. ... why is the vulture's money so important to you when your own kind kills muslims women and Children everyday. Tell you what! When the english stop murdering Muslims we Argentine might listen, until then why don't you become a comedian.
    CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    murder murder.

    is this more cover up by argentina, getting you to change the subject , [again]

    poor pirate,
    go find a ship to hunt,
    like ghana perhaps.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    110 ElaineB

    Paying the port fees is chicken-feed to Singer et al and is fair enough, Ghana have acted impeccably in this matter.

    And just consider what he gains:

    Ghana will appreciate the gesture;
    Reasonable people will see that NML has acted very fairly toward AG considering that they are still owed a lot of money, irrespective what the scofflaws think;
    NML have demonstrated that they can out-think AG. I agree it not difficult; they cannot even think the next step in anything they do;
    If anyone was considering taking NML on over any dispute they may have with them it would be a good idea to revisit the decision.

    And they get the ship, what they do with it remains to be seen. Seems like a result to me.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    Call me all you want people, all you do is personally attack me, a sure sign of crystalline impotence.

    And you want my opinion on the ship in Ghana? Ok.

    The bankers may have “our” ship, but they have your country.

    After all, you are Muppets.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    its only a blogg,

    besides what would ghana want with britain.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    They should just invade the whole country. It would be the shortest and easiest war of history.

    You can easily see how weak-minded the argies are here in the forum.

    Guess how weak would they be in a battle.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos


    No doubt why Britain tried twice to walk in through the front door and was pasted, on the ground twice and in the waters once.

    Let the Muppets keep talking about an impounded ship, their whole country is impounded by their beloved bankers. LOL

    That gentleman was right, these plebs just don't know their place.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    119@WTF are you talking about pedo, you silly cunts tried to rob the Falklands and lost it in short time, since you are all weak surrenders.

    now go and find your pills.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    Pleb, back to third class, obey your government, bow down and suck it in.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    121@ pedo, pedo, pedo...

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos

    I'm not anglo, sorry. Call me corrupt, but not pedo.

    I see you were transfering your own personality. Anglo = pedo.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #114, #115, #117,#118 did your lot stop murdering innocent Muslim women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, turkey, Pakistan, India and Palestine. Or are you just a hypocrite who looks for other to victimise?.. I think I told you all not to ask anything of Argentine until you found the WMD, thank you! And I hope the rest of you have just a little more brains, maybe that's asking for too much. Why don't you put your heads together to see if among you all can kick start rudimentary
    CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    you old boy. just you.

    stop trying to pass the buck,

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ICFreedom

    @124 pirat hunter

    ok - so if you woke up tomorrow and suddenly had a nuclear defense, what then?
    just dont see how that improves the lives of everyday argentines one bit. but maybe you can explain it to us.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos


    How do nukes improve your quality of life, ever thought of THAT?

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    'REFERENDUM- Del Corro: “I do not think having to tamper with the cause of the Falklands, to treat the law 648”'

    Eduardo Barrientos considered inappropriate question about the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands “Argentines clearly understand that there are Argentine-born islanders and Fuegians”.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #127 titti boi....I mean Tobias, just anwser the question. More important, enlighten us from you Canadian home on how cuntina Kirchner will pay for it? From nestor's embazzlement of the Aerolinas deal?

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #125, #126, #127 when UK, USA and cabada stops murdering innocent Muslim women and children in AFGHANISTAN, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon , Libya, Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and India we Argentine might listen, until then why don't you english people show us the WMD! If that was ever truth. As all your others lies and bogus charges against people Everywhere.
    #147 you know #146 is right.
    CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    ah, you jumpt bloggs,
    so not only changing the subject or lies,
    you now change bloggs.

    Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Giorgio_O._Tsoukalos


    Muppet, I'm didn't say we should spend money on nukes.

    Oct 24th, 2012 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @132 GOT TTT

    “ I'm didn't say we should spend money on nukes.”

    LOL, so glad Pirat- Alex is one of yours... :-)

    Oct 24th, 2012 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “The idea of sending an Argentine Air Force plane for the crew was discarded fearing the same fate as ARA Libertad”

    Fast forward to 2013..........

    CFK: Timidman, in here now!
    TM: (In leather hood and chains) Yes, mistress?
    CFK: The Kelpers have had the insolence to vote for association with the British! What are you doing about it?
    TM: (Triumphantly)Mistress I will go to the UN again!
    CFK: What have you thought of now?
    TM: I have told Putridjelly to send our aerobatic Pampers team to the USA, our Fighting Hawks to Spain , Our S-Es to France, and our entire airborne transport fleet to Ghana.
    CFK: Why?
    TM: Mistress, they will all be impounded, then I can go straight to the UN to ask for resolutions against all those countries!
    CFK: You idiot! After that referendum result my last chance to get the Malvinas (fictitious island in never-never land) is to invade, it nearly worked for the Junta!!!
    TM: That's OK mistress we still have the 10 MEKOs, Putridjelly has sent out a tugboat to salvage the Santa Fe, and we still have some Pampers and to use. The Fingers don't work because Israel aren't happy with us being pally with Iran, but the Mirages can just about fly.
    CFK: No, I have a better idea, the British are flying the first RAF Airbus transports to MPA ,and the annual March and Shoot competition involved about 2,000 rounds of ammo being fired on our territory. Just go and claim more militarisation of the South Atlantic.
    TM: Anything else mistress?
    CFK: Yes, the same bullshit about 1833, the UN haven't researched the history properly since 1964, so they'll be mug enough to keep believing that.
    TM: What about our trumpcard?
    CFK: Which is?
    TM: Take the UK to the ICJ.
    CFK: No you fool!!!! Hitler taught Peron, if you repeat a lie long enough it will be believed. The ICJ will tear our case apart like shreds when the UK bring up the UN Charter! And, Hector, thumb a lift on a LANchile flight to NY will you, we were lucky to get Tango 1 back.

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  • Conor J

    Very good, I believed for a moment that, that was an actual recording between Creepy Christina and her side kick Horrid Hector!

    Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest


    Ha ha, so realistic !!!

    God job

    Oct 27th, 2012 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #132 when are you changing to another it not close to menstruation and time to changes names? The African saga is over for now, unless you need a South African name? want to know what I liked the most? When I called out for titti popped your head up out of the ground like a gopher and promptly a good little boi, you know your name at least.

    Oct 27th, 2012 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #24 Great point. And yes Elaine might actually work for SInger, she's always been secretive about her exact line of work while boasting about her wide travels with it...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @138 BK

    BK, we haven't seen you for so long, but now that you're back, you're making up for lost time.

    How do you lot get paid ? By the post?
    You have posted on nearly every thread, sometimes digging back days and over a hundred posts back to the beginning, just to find something to latch onto. #24 was a week ago ! LOL

    You must have spent too much on your holidays. :-D

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    We suspect he is a la campora Sargent at

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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