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ARA Libertad: Argentine president pledges to never yield to ‘vulture’ funds
Argentine president Cristina Fernández in a national broadcast blasted ‘vulture funds’ retaining the impounded training frigate ARA Libertad in Ghana and pledged never to yield the dignity and sovereignty of the country to these funds. Read full article
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0She said:
“As long as I'm the President, they might retain the Frigate, but the freedom, dignity and sovereignty of this country will not be retained by any vulture fund”
I say:
Nothing to add……….
She said:
”What we went through these past days brings a lot of pain, and I say it as an Argentine citizen…..“
I say:
I ”Think” that this pretty old ship is now being instrumental to an objective much greater that offering luxury cruises to navy cadets, paid in full by the Argentinean workers…… No pain at all for this Argentinean citizen.
She said:
”I've seen some, luckily very few, who defended the vulture funds that had illegally retained our Libertad frigate in an African port”
I say:
Not even the Clarin Group, who’s dying to use this episode against the current administration, has had the Chutzpah to defend the Vulture Funds…..
And the game of Cat and Mouse continues…..
“the freedom, dignity and sovereignty of this country will not be retained by any vulture fund”
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Dignity is long gone. And still this quaint Argentine notion that sovereignity equals impunity.
if it wasnt legal then why doesnt she have her vessel back?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Because you lot writes the laws mayhap? I'm glad it turned out as it did, you are doing your part to unite SA. And the cost is 1 vessel :)))
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Unite SA bollocks..... the only interest shown by other countries was in the welfare of their cadets.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0'They might retain the Frigate, ' so thats it then.... game over... ship to be abandoned to creditors....
Game on, I'd say :))
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0SA people tends to find their own justice when it's not given to them ;)
@6 - Guzz
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina doesn't want to play by the rules fine. No one EVER forced them to sign international treaties.
What is your own justice, Guzz? Throwing people out of planes because they disagree with you? Starting wars because you want something someone else owns? That isn't justice.
So once again Argentina cry 'foul' because they have be caught and have to pay money back loaned to them in good faith.
But if Argentina want to 'go it alone' fine, who's stopping them? I doubt very many South American countries are willing to sacrifice themselves and their countries future, for the hubris of the Argentine Government.
There will never be a 'United' South America whilst people like CFK put their own needs before the needs of her people.
So now she has abandoned the ARA Libertad, and humilated her country once again.
This Argentine government really need to take lessons on how to be diplomatic. When a country has something that you want (in this case Ghana), you don't go and insult them. You don't act arrogant and treat them like they aren't equal to you. And you certainly don't falsely accuse them of human rights abuses because you couldn't get your way.
One way or another, Argentina needs to grow up and realise that just because you can shout loud, doesn't make you right. The Nazi's shouted loudly too.
Won't pay? More likely she can't pay. Silly moo.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0At least Timerman was at the UN to personally receive the warning of ' obstacles to freedom of expression in Argentina' following complaints from many countries.
@8 : Argentina is sitting on U$S45Bn of reserves. TMBOA is sending a clear message that she has emasculated the armed forces , and in particular the Navy .Through their mobs in vatallon and La campora they can now do anything they want .Even if the opposition were to unite behind one candidate , these mobs will disrupt political rallies and then prevent them from voting .
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina is becoming more and more like Zimbabwe every day.
The administration get richer while in provinces like Chaco people literally starve .
What a Grade “A” tit, did she paint her face blue for this speech? Been watching Mel Gibson films again?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of note is the fact that, once again, an Argentine Governments' attempt to use the UN&SC for its own immediate goals has been rebuffed entirely.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0As i've said elsewhere though: the Argentine Government only cares about what is thought of it internally: it has no interest whatsoever in how it appears outside of its own country.
Take from that whatever you will, good or bad.
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” SA people tends to find their own justice when it's not given to them ;)“
..and then pretend it didnt happen, or it was ”somebody else“ when the inconvenient truth emerges?
”That wasnt us, it was some other Argentinian who we no longer count as Argentinian because it would mean we have to own-up to things we dont want to”
SOme national groups, indeed even their governments, are secure enough in their history to be able to recognise their past without haivng to pretend it wasnt their ancestors who did these things.
In amongst the ouright xenophobia exhibited by some people on this website you might want to think about what that says about yourselves.
(And that is directed at everybody)
CFK promises 'never to pay its debt', 'never to have financial integrity'.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good bye, Minister Puricelli........
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.pagina12.com.ar/fotos/20121023/notas/na02fo01.jpg
@13 Think
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0So CFK scarifices another to try and save her own neck, not good is it?
To lose one defence chief might seem an accident, two might seem to be unfortunate, three might seem coincidence and four seems to be habit.
Tell me Think, do you believe that Timidman will now try the UNGA in the hopes of getting a resolution? A resolution that the Argentine government will immediately misrepresent.
I know that your crystal ball doesn't work, but mine seems to be working just fine.
You see, Think, my crystal ball is about reading and understanding the UN charter, looking at the relevant evidence of the Argentine agreement on defaulting, at past cases and coming to a logical deduction.
Perhaps you should give it a try, you may actually learn something.
How do you think the average Argentine citizen in the street is going to react to the fact that your President has essentially abandoned the Argentine flag ship in Ghana?
Will they celebrate? Or will they be angry because your government has humilated the country once more on the international stage, and dented the pride of Argentina?
How many more dents to national pride can and should Argentina endure at the hands of this inept government?
What are your thoughts?
Furthermore, I vow never to yield to vultures (except of course when they are circling my rotting corpse)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0So is the bottom line that it is Argentine state policy never to repay those that didn't agree to a 70% haircut on their bonds?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@10 Boovis .
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was just thinking it looks like she has had a head rebuild.
Bit 'fleshier' than before... they must have used a fair bit of bog and body filler.
I knew they had taken Putrid jelli's tie off him for a reason
How in the hell did they get a seat on the SC ???
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just pay your fucking debts like everyone else has to. If I don't pay mine I will lose my house, what's the difference!!
They have to make a big song and dance about every thing. If every nation acted like these Argies, the UN would get nothing done.
I very rarely comment as I enjoy reading the news & comments on SA, but mostly just interested in the news on the FI as my brother and 3 friends all took part in liberating the Islands. But you just can't escape the fact these deluded Argies live in a totally different universe than the rest of us.
@18 It was just their turn on the SC. Nothing more than observers really.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0NML isn't asking for your freedom, or your dignity, or your sovereignty. They are just asking for their money back.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0And, “Oh the pain of it all!”.
They welch on a loan, but they are the persecuted ones. What a bunch of spin!
“As long as I'm the President, they might retain the Frigate, but the freedom, dignity and sovereignty of this country will not be retained by any vulture fund” said Cristina Fernandez on Monday during the nationwide broadcast from Government House.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0First off, no one was after argentina's sovereignty, or freedom so what the hell is she talking about? There is no dispute with Ghana as they are only an intermediary enforcing international law from an action taken by creditor's. As for dignity.......what dignity? Dignity in refusing to pay back money Argentina borrowed. Where is the dignity in taking money and not giving it back? Vulture funds, Eagle funds...call it what you want but the fact remains that Argentina signed a contract to borrow money and pay it back. Argentina did not honor that contract. How can cfk reconcile that default with dignity?
Poppy
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0As you draw parallels between killing children in Iraq and dignity, that would most surely not be a problem for you...
22- Cant see a mention of killing children??
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0George Galloway, Princes Katherine , murdering children, Jimmy saville
change the record
they should just take the whole country, it would be the easiest war in world history.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0So typical of CFK and her thugs. Up in arms about Argentine soverignty being protected bla, bla,
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about the same applying to the Falkland Islands peopl and their home land CFK. Again we see a leader with two faces. On the one hand condemning the very people who gave to her Country huge amounts of monitary aid which she now has no intention of honouring yet still does not recognise our rights to self determination .
No wonder her rating is slipping so low. The genuine Argentine People have finally called her bluff.
She is a finnished leader and if not stopped will further drag her Country and people down with her.
So Glad we have not become a part of that sick society
You are drawing the parallels guzz. If the middle east did not want their children to die in incidental (and not targeted) bombings.....your group that you so admire....al qaeda should have thought twice before they attacked the USA. I think war in itself is always a tradgic event, but al qaeda is a cancer that will be eliminated much to you support of them.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When Bush said “If you are not with us, you are against us”, he was partly right. We are against you. Which doesn't mean we are with Al-Qaeda...
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 Yes I know, but still it is like rewarding your child when they have been naughty!!
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Keep up the good work you guys. Love reading how you put the deluded jokers in there place with solid facts.
TTT/Guss/Think ect, I have yet to see any of them write anything resembling the truth!!
Señora Presidente de los Argentinos:
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have already stolen all our dignity, our freedom and what little sovereignty that was left to us by not paying our debts, now that small bit of pride that we could take in being citizens of a beautiful and ppotentially rich country has been taken from us by your ridiculous ranting before the world just because YOU do not want to repay the money that we borrowed.
Shame on you, Señora, you and Timerman and the rest of the troupe of sycophants that surround you have brought us nothing but humilliation before the world. The only thing left for you and your “aduladores” to do is resign!!!!!!
Belive what you want, at the end of the day, your wealth is based on our natural resources. Now that you aren't getting it, your bankers are emptying the accounts and shouting “financial crisis” so you don't spend what they are about to grab...
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Continue the farce, I might be sorry for your commoners, but it's not for me to stop you...
Why isn't your country exploiting its abundance of natural resources and becoming wealthy themselves?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Two reasons
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. Lack of knowledgte/funds to do so.
2. Disbelief in that your way of sacking mother earth is the right way to approach things.
So we'll regulate the sacking, and sell to the Chinese until we got the know-how...
What will you sell to the Chinese?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Uruguays case, meat, wool, soy, dairy products...
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Argentinas case, just about anything...
Guzz
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The lack of funds could be attributed to the lack of trust Argentina honouring it's debts.
sacking ??
No agent
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The lack of funds are not a new thing, it existed long before Argentinas default. It has something to do with the fact that the resources are limited, and you lot are using up much more than you produce yourselves, resulting in the inevitable fact that you are taking other nations fair share...
@32 -Guxx
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
1. Lack of knowledgte/funds to do so.
2. Disbelief in that your way of sacking mother earth is the right way to approach things.
So you're Argentine today are you? Or are you saying that Uruguay actually owns Argentina?
Well let's look at what you've written in more detail shall we?
1. Lack of knowledge/funds to do so - Argentina has borrowed money and refused to pay it back. No one is stupid enough to throw good money after bad. Lack of knowledge. Well if your country (you are Argentine today aren't you?) had payed its debts, and not stolen companies belonging to international companies, then those very same companies would be eager to invest in Argentina and provide all the knowledge required.
2. Disbelief in that your way of sacking mother earth is the right way to approach things - which is exactly the same way that the Argentine government would be sacking mother earth, if the had the money and knowledge. How very hypocritical of you.
As for selling to the Chinese, you have to have something they want, and even then they'll only pay the lowest amount they can get away with.
You've all gone down the 'Chinese' will save us route. Well they haven't, have they? They won't invest in Argentina because they don't trust the government there not to steal their money.
The Chinese only care about the China - end of. They don't care for other countries at all, beyond how much oil, soy or other commodities they can get for the cheapest price possible.
If you believe different then you really are deluded.
As for CFK, the woman is becoming more unstable by the day. She must be seeing the writing on the wall. They only real question now, is will she take Argentina with her when she falls?
LEP
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Post 36 responds to your gibberish, read again
#37. Although you and I share the same perspective on most issues, I beg to differ about some of your comments regarding China. They are difficult to negotiate with, but are willing to pay the market price for key strategic items. Argentina is a ripe target with the bonus of breaking into selling manufactured goods from China. Chile's largest trade partner is China and we've done very well, but
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“there is always a danger of placing too many eggs in one basket”
& 4
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0written on Copenhagen Time 08:31 am
& 38
written on Copenhagen Time 02:04 pm
@ 7 LEPRecon
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree!!!!
argentinians are such loosers, the World laughs at them.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38 - Guzz
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Guzz post 36 doesn't answer anything at all, so vague comment how Argentina's problems are always someone else's fault, in that case for not giving Argentina funds.
The reason Argentina borrowed money was lack of funds to develop their country.
The problem with Argentina is too much corruption. Too many people wanting their 'cut' and skimming it off the top, added to mismanagement and other economic factors.
So Argentina defaulted. Not necessarily their fault, but it is their responsibility.
The reason Argentina can't get funds now is because Argentina has REFUSED to pay back its debts.
Let's put it simply, Guzz. If someone asks to borrow $200.00 from you, promising to pay you back with interest. They don't pay you back, even when you ask. They say they haven't got the money, but offer you $2.00 instead to settle the debt.
You refuse to accept that because it is a ridiculous sum to offer compared to what you loaned them, and you say you'll collect the full amount at a later date.
A few years later they try to borrow money off you again. Do you lend them the money or do you remeber that they still owe you money and refuse?
That is what they international community has done.
All of this is the fault of the Argentine government.
As for resources. You lot? Which you lot is that? Is that you lot who live in Europe, like you do Guzz. Hyporcrite.
Besides, Argentina has enough resources to make the country one of the largest economies in the world, and one of the richest. The only thing preventing them taking their place is themselves.
But since they refuse to accept any responsibility for themselves, it immediately is the fault of...........(insert name).
Well until Argentina accepts responsibility for itself and stops acting like a petulant child, no one will risk investing in their country, not even 'your' friends the Chinese.
(42) Hook
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Q: What's a “looser”?
A: A Brit that can't spell “loser”...
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Copenhagen Time is 03:50 pm right now .
:-)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you all understand why we Argentine love CFK she is the first Argentine president who didn't sale her principals for a quick fix, she didn't trade in the people for a reward nor did she give up her country for ransom, she doesn't give into state terrorism, theft or piracy, we love and support you 100% CFK,. I think Argentina can charge Ghana with piracy and wait Until Ghana has something we Argentines can detain and ask them to pay bail plus interest equal to the proposed 20.000.000.00$ from the time the ship was high jacked. If ghanas laws can write up a theft we can do same in Argentina. I am sure UN will ask both nations to settle the matter only if Argentina escalates the conflict, other ways UN will say as many people suggested that there are things more important like killing Muslims in Syria or Iran as we all know the english are always working on theft and murder.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_orfcGnaseE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_orfcGnaseE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_orfcGnaseE&feature=related
Does anyone know Who armed and trained
Bin Laden or why did the CIA continue to train and arm terrorists in the middle east? Killing thousands of innocent Muslims women and children, Someone has to ask this questions since the media seem to add more fuel to the fire rather then do really well documented investigations. The terrorist are also in control of many judges around the world specially in nations where the per capita is under 4.000.00$ a year.
Argentina == http://media.photobucket.com/image/nuthouse+/merlinx76/Segmentation/Nuthouse-for-web.jpg
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Off topic but why is there a speaking clock on this thread?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0twisting the facts... Argentina lost it's dignitiy, when it betrayed and stole the ones that trusted in her. THERE she lost it dignity, and it will continue doing it, when they sit and wait to see, how the ARA Libertad will be auctioned! That will be even a bigger humilliation!
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ PH bin Laden
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“who didn't sale her principals”
Not compromising on principles is commendable.
Generally speaking, a person with high principles, pays back what they borrow. Do you agree?
47( # )-you do not laugh much.How we are at home?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So TMBOA has just written off the Captain and 44 sailors. The only people to come out of this farce with any dignity.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just when is anyone in AG, apart from the likes of Simon68, going to get a pair of balls and do something about this raving lunatic who is STILL hell-bent on killing the country for her own aggrandisement.
If this was ANYWHERE else there would be a revolution or the men in white coats would come and take the entire ‘government’ away with her.
UK posters
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of the great ironies of this whole saga is that the UK (under Blair) did more than any other country to curtail the action of “vulture funds” and should be applauded for that. They are not nice organisations and it is widely recognised the damage they can have on undeveloped/developing nations.
I can’t help thinking that if the country in strife was an African nation, there might be more sympathy for their plight. I know, it is all Argies own making and they have the natural resources, etc, etc, but the same argument would apply to an African nation, would it not?
Lep
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kicking you lot out will see us able to fund a whole bunch of stuff, noone needs or wants your “charity” ;)
Chris, The apathy of the populations is breathtaking and sickening. How this dingbat is still in charge is beyond comprehension. It must be some sort of brainwashing like in North Korea.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Toby, You are correct Argentina is as dysfunctional as the worst of the African nations. People don't feel sorry for Argentina because you are belligerent, petulant, arrogant, liars, deadbeats and scofflaws.
You are reaping what you've sown.
and it is only going to get worse
you are on the cusp of a total melt-down both economically and politically
I hope you have stocked up on laundry detergent and sugar like I have been recommending.
You are going to need something to trade when the hyperinflation starts.
@54 As an Argentine remarked today, who is CFKC to give away our country's property, like she owns it.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0( 15 ) Welsh Buzzard
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
Furthermore, I vow never to yield to vultures (except of course when they are circling my rotting corpse)
I say:
Perfect final words for a Sky burial.......
Argenina needs to carry a big stick. No nation has respect with a wimpy military.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 057@ yankee, what's your prediction when the hyperinflation gets out of hands?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@56 - Guzz
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kicking 'us lot' out of where?
What charity?
You are making no sense Guzz, nor do any of your posts mention the fact that CFK has abandoned the Argentine Flag ship. Surely you have an opinion on that?
Or are you going to do the ususal thing of blaming everyone else?
I'll remind you that no one forced Argentina to take out loans. No one forced Argentina to waive its sovereign immunity rights to obtain those loans. No one forced Argentina to sign international treaties stating that they would abide by certain rules and reguations.
They did it of their own free will, and now they (the government) seek to weasel their way out of their responsibilities, and blame someone else for their own failings.
No one wants to give Argentina charity. The international community would much rather see a successful nation than a failed one. We would rather see a rich and prosperous Argentina than a poor one.
No one is out to 'get' Argentina, but people expect Argentina to live up to the international obligations that they PROMISED to abide by.
Its all a matter of honour. Does Argentina honour its word or does it dishonour itself by refusing to?
Argentina is fast losing any dignity and respect it had in the world, and you can all thank the current Argentine government and their policies for that.
The problem with populist governments is that they need an 'enemy' to direct the peoples anger at, especially when they're cocking things up.
So recently the Argentine government has told the Argentine people that the enemy are (in no particular order):
The British
The Falkland Islanders
Europe
Spain
The USA
The WTO
The IMF
Ghana
The British (again)
The Falklanders (again)
Paraguay
Next it'll be the UN for not supporting them in their desire to spout their nonsense on the wrong forum.
Well I can tell you something, Guzz, the only problem Argentina has is itself, its inability to elect a government that isn't self serving.
Hook, CFK is in a pickle. Inflation is around 25-30% but tax revenues have only gone up about 18% yoy. That tells you the economy is in freefall.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She has only sent about 60% of what is required to the Provinces for their tax revenue sharing. The provinces are struggling to pay suppliers. The electrical and gas companies are in effect bankrupt. She has increased gov't spending 35% this year.
She has HUGE shortfalls that in the past were made up with theft. There is nothing left to steal. The WB and IDB loans will be gone by December. She will have to make up those U$ somehow.
The only solution that is left is to print pesos. So just give it a little more time. Provinces won't be able to make the Christmas bonus and she will cave and send them funds. It is all downhill from there. If she lasts that long.
Yanqui,
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you call everyone “Toby”, just because you disagree with them?
“You are reaping what you've sown.” – yes I have 4 kids ;)
“and it is only going to get worse” – no, it is not.
“you are on the cusp of a total melt-down both economically and politically” – no, economy growing at 5%, credit rating recently upgraded and outlook is good.
“I hope you have stocked up on laundry detergent and sugar like I have been recommending” – no, no need. Supermarket shelves full.
“You are going to need something to trade when the hyperinflation starts.” – no, inflation low and within target range.
You scored 1 of 5. Try harder.
Mr. Hook & Mr Yankiboy........
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The ”Doomsday Preppers of MercoPress....
63@ thanks for the info.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 064@ and you scored {0} like all the other argies, or are you the same Pedo again? go and fetch your medication pedo.
(64)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeahhhhhh Take your medicine Toby, you Argie Pedo Troll.....
(Trying to be funny but failing miserably.... Just Joking, Condorito... You are my favourite Cartoon ;-)
Lep
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know my neighbors, and I can assure you the y could not care less about what your definition of “the world” thinks about them.
Paraguay is not Argentinas enemy, nor is Ghana, little so Spain. There are forces within those nations that works after your agenda, but those forces are not about national identity but more so about money. Paraguay is a perfect example.
Before one talks about anything one must know all the facts.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
#52 I am not a CIA agent. CFK didn't borrow anything don't you agree and everyone before the CFK couple with out exceptional took part on the theft underwritten by IMF, we are not paying corrupt nations who use the money to finance terrorism and make up lies about WMD while trading weapons with CIA, mossad and mi6 operatives, sorry dude but No english speaking person have any higher moral ground to be asking or telling Argentina anything. Stop killing innocent Muslims women and children for oil resources to hope for one day have the higher moral grounds to lead by example rather than by dictatorship, war mongering and thugery. CFK keep up the good work we support you 100%.
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@PH bin Laden
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ we are not paying corrupt nations who use the money to finance terrorism and make up lies about WMD while trading weapons with CIA, mossad and mi6 operatives”
Argentina and CFK do borrow money from western organizations? Is that incorrect?
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is all good in Pelotillehue ;)
PS:
I thought for a moment about explaining to Hook that not all South Americans are Argentineans, then I realized that you had already taught him how to spell “loser” today so I thought better of it – wouldn’t want that neuron to over heat.
@1 Are you the “risen” Nestor? She's hilarious!
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She said:
“As long as I'm the President, they might retain the Frigate, but the freedom, dignity and sovereignty of this country will not be retained by any vulture fund”
Nobody wants your freedom, dignity or sovereignty. Just pay the money. And how side-splitting is it that SHE refers to sovereignty!
She said:
”What we went through these past days brings a lot of pain, and I say it as an Argentine citizen…..“
Good!
She said:
”I've seen some, luckily very few, who defended the vulture funds that had illegally retained our Libertad frigate in an African port”
She needs to read some papers that she doesn't control. Most of the world's press reports this objectively. The funny part is the argie “government” comments and statements. With “straight faces”!
@4 Just the beginning!
@6 Is that a threat?
@22 Let's draw some parallels between argieland losing its boat and tossing people out of aircraft? Or perhaps between losing a little boat and trying to steal the Falklands?
@27 Don't believe you. Who's cosying up to Iran? By the way, who sited artillery between peoples' homes in 1982. That's a breach of the Fourth Geneva Convention. Remember that intention to ship the Falklands population to Uruguay? That's another breach. Remember the painting of red crosses on anything and everything? That's another breach.
@30 What “natural resources” are they?
@32 So you're thick, broke and stupid. Nothing new!
@36 “Other nations fair share...”? Be more specific.
@48 You're funny. CFK's never had any principles. She hasn't traded in “the people” because that's who she steals from. Give up her country for ransom? Argieland's worth about 2 pesos. Who'd ask a ransom? Back on the piracy kick? Two notable pirates in argie history - David Jewett & Luis Vernet. No others recorded. “Killing thousands of innocent Muslims women and children”? “Innocent” and “Muslims” can't go in the same sentence.
@53 We laugh at you!
Conqueror
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know how many frogs could live on the air you breathe?
(72) Condorito
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I seriously thinking about taking you out of my “Turnip List”......
I just would wish you could moderate a bit your anti Argentinean feelings.
They seem so unbecoming for a father of four!
@PH bin Laden
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“but No english speaking person have any higher moral ground to be asking or telling Argentina anything”
Are you Canadian or Argentino?
@68 - Guzz
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really, then you've obviously missed some of the rantings of some if your own neighbours then.
But the point is Argentina borrowed the money from the west. Now are you telling me that Argentina, and therefore the people of Argentina are so dishonourable as to renege on a contract?
As I said, no one forced Argentina to do anything. No one forced them to take the loan, no one forced them to waive their sovereign immunity rights, but they did. Now it's way past time that the Argentine government did the honourable thing.
Or does honour mean so little in Argentina?
Think,
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I’m not anti Argie, just anti constant CFK melodramatics.
Don’t worry, my children receive no distorting influences from me – they’ll form their own opinions on the Argies they fraternise with on the beach in summer. Positive, surely?
Senor El Think down there in Patagonia has probably already heard that loud “PERNACCHIA” coming to Argentina from the four corners of the world ;-)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world is messed with all sort of troubles but at least it isn't ruled yet by Argentine Laws written by Rataladrona the Bipolar Genius.
...
Whenever anything went wrong it became usual to attribute it to the Vultures. If a window was broken or a drain was blocked up, someone was certain to say that the Vultures had come in the night and done it, and when the key of the store-shed was lost, the whole Argentina was convinced that Snowball had thrown it down the well. Curiously enough, they went on believing this even after the mislaid key was found under a sack of meal.
“Ah, that is different!” said Moreno. “If Comrade Kristina says it, it must be right.”
...
ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
BUT SOME ARGENTINES ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.
LOL LOL
Good luck serious Argentines for your 8N event ... I wish millions of you can gather and eventually kick that Ladroprogresista mafia out and restore some dignity for your country, but it looks like a tough task :-(
#54
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#71 incorrect, no CFK doesn't ask for loans she has an Argentine national bank and we have lots of natural resources. We don't need to trade with terrorist, regardless of the english speaking community Who kills innocent Muslim women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, egypt, turkey, Lebanon, Palestine, Yemen and Saudi Arabia for natural resources. Murderous english people the moral higher ground to ask, demand or comment on Argentine matters. Sorry but english people should fix their obsession with murdering, innocent Muslim women and children before telling anyone anything.
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RANSOM, contracts, war. An agreement made between the commander of a capturing vessel with the commander of a vanquished vessel, at sea, by which the former permits the latter to depart with his vessel, and gives him a safe conduct, in consideration of a sum of money, which the commander of the vanquished vessel, in his own name, and in the name of the owners of his vessel and cargo, promises to pay at a future time named, to the other.
2. This contract is usually made in writing in duplicate, one of which is kept by the vanquished vessel which is its safe conduct; and the other by the conquering vessel, which is properly called ransom bill.
3. This contract, when made in good faith, and not locally prohibited, is valid, and may be enforced. Such contracts have never been prohibited in this country. 1 Kent, Com. 105. In England they are generally forbidden. Chit. Law of Nat. 90 91; Poth. Tr. du Dr. de Propr. n. 127. Vide 2 Bro. Civ. Law, 260; Wesk. 435; 7 Com. D
Think
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This situation is quite simple, just pay the bonds and that is it. After all the bonds were issued during by democratic gorvenment on freedom. And at that time CFK was on the side of the President Menem.
Why don't you discuss with me about the original people of Argentina?
About Rosas and the COnquest of the Desert?
About J. A. Roca? These are more important and more ineteresting subjects.
Are you willing now? Or your pay doesn't include taking part of discussions of these topics?
Regards from Vancouver
@69 PH Bin-Vargas
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ CFK keep up the good work we support you 100%.”
About sums up your mental acuity.
LOL
LOL #81 pay for what?? Did Canada find any WMD and stop arming CIA trained terrorist all over the middle east??? Did the canadians stop murdering innocent Muslim women and children in Afghanistan and Libya ?? When Canada stops murdering Innocent Muslim women and children, maybe just maybe Argentine's will take Canadian seriously Until then. Criminals don't deserve the right to even ask or point fingers at Argentina, i suggest you keep quiet and mind your own country. Did Canada stop killing the natives Cqnadians and stealing their land yet ?lol
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Greetings from an native Argentine living in Toronto. Stay quiet boy.
#80 puddle hopper you are right we should not be killing extremnist mulims, we should be killing you and the rest of the la campora idiots'. Unfornately you are safely protected in Canada.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder who will be the first to go in the administration.....tinman, who was abandoned by the UN. Even the UN spokesperson refuted what tinman said, that Ban Ki-Moon never offered to speak to Ghana.....lol, stupid liar he is. Or, Economic Administor Lorenzino? They will start dropping like flies in autumn.....and cuntina kirchner will be the last. But she will flee to venezula into the arms of dying chubby chavo
46
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You shoúld be more hawk éyed énough.
Almost all comménts are from Moscow tíme !
new news: Argie-government starts to control the stock exchange
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@PH bin Laden
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“When Canada stops murdering Innocent Muslim women and children, maybe just maybe Argentine's will take Canadian seriously Until then.”
You gain your livelihood in the Canadian system, you little dog turd. If you despise “english speaking people” what are you doing living in the middle of them?
Wouldn't you like to live in Argentina?
For those who are not accustomed to be face to face with CFK fans.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Pirat Hunter” and “Think” have both the typical attitude of La Campora teens, just start a discussion with them about the foreign debt (e.g.) and be prepare to end up discussing about the sex life of ants. Most probable he7she will quite the discussion under accusations of being “imperialist” or “criminal” or “complicity of the worse crimes in human mandkind”
You don't live in Canada, it's quite evident. You are just a fraud and a teenager mentally affected.
The sad thng is that “Think” prefers his/her silence to an open discussion about Argentine history. SAD
Condi, I call every RG hack Toby. Their hatred and bizarro world views all seem to be the same.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My post was regarding Argentina/CFK not Chile.
I love Chile and think they should invade Argentina or at least Bolivia. Make those lazy people work and obey laws just like Pinochet did in your country.
Argentina needs a Pinochet desperately.
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#84 Death threat wow I am glad mercopress let's racist KKK english supporters to threaten to kill others races in their pages, we now know how the english should be treated all over the world, take it easy favio, Anytime any place you know where I am, but make sure you aim well because when I come to find your family they will all be sorry you didn't finish the job because I will not rest Untill I take revenge.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0RANSOM, contracts. An agreement made between the commander of a capturing vessel with the commander of a vanquished vessel, at sea, by which the former permits the latter to depart with his vessel, and gives him a safe conduct, in consideration of a sum of money, which the commander of the vanquished vessel, in his own name, and in the name of the owners of his vessel and cargo, promises to pay at a future time named, to the other.
2. This contract is usually made in writing in duplicate, one of which is kept by the vanquished vessel which is its safe conduct; and the other by the conquering vessel, which is properly called ransom bill.
3. This contract, when made in good faith, and not locally prohibited, is valid, and may be enforced. Such contracts have never been prohibited in this country. 1 Kent, Com. 105. In England they are generally forbidden. Chit. Law of Nat. 90 91; Poth. Tr. du Dr. de Propr. n. 127. Vide 2 Bro. Civ. Law, 260; Wesk. 435; 7 Com. Dig. 201; Marsh. Ins. 431; 2 Dall. 15; 15 John. 6; 3 Burr. 1734. The money paid for the redemption of such property is also called the ransom.
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CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%
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90
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Skol ka stoit ?..napishite tesnu...(Russian)
would you reply to me in latin letters written !
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( dont talk yourself by your many names here vainly )
@91: news for you: argentines aren't a race, their a mongrel breed of various imperialistic rejects from Europe. Most people in the UK are mongrels too, but at least we admit it, and are proud of it.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.noticiasargentinas.com/nuevosite/11690-cae-fuerte-bolsa-por-avance-del-gobierno.html
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0argie-stocks plummet in BA and Wall Street after CFK takes over control
the 'Bolsa'
haha, just another step towards North-Korea
92
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry mate, I just don't understand what you are trying to say...
#87. When the brits in Canada go
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back to UK rather then leach of native canadians land I will go back to Argentina, Until then suck it up butter cup. And don't forget english speaking murderers of innocent Muslim women and children don't even have the moraol grounds nor the right to tell us Argentine anything at least Until you murderers find the WMD. Lol good luck and shhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Quiet!!!!
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CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%
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#88 you can always stop killing muslim women and children, find the WMD and shut all of us up!! About you do that and stop making excuses to murder more people to theft resources.
95
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0pllleeeeeeaaaaaaaaaassssssseeeeeeeeee !
Russian is your native language. no need embarrassment.
also you are one of the dominant powers of the world.
97
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, I'm Russian now! :)
Well, if you say so mate... You better take that up with your sidekicks here, they are convinced I'm Argentine. Let me know what you agree on.
98
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thére are no any Argentines here..all líé !
99
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok... well, bye then...
@PH bin Laden
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“When the brits in Canada go
Back to UK rather then leach of native canadians land I will go back to Argentina”
Are the Europeans who settled in Argentina leaching off native Argentinan land?
100
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0merély some íngenious novélist(s)/scripwriter(s) parked here.
102
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nice... where?
#101 homo! Why would i answer your question when you didn't even mention where your government found WMD, or if at least stop murdering innocent muslim women and children all over the middle east, when you meet any of those challenges we Argentine might, just might answer you, until then! mind your own country! It needs a lot more help then Argentines do. Shhhhhhhh!!!
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Quiet am hunting for wabbits.
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CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100% www.youtube.com/watch?v=_orfcGnaseE&feature=related www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwBJltxZgY
#101....you must have really pissed the puddle hopper off. His homosexual name calling only surfaces when you hit a raw nerve.......he hates us knowing he lives in Canada
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0103
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0probáble the náme of his novél could be “” the pink pénguíns of Falklands “”
of coursé which has added You Tube exténsions.
@PH bin Laden
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just wanted to ask,
Where do you think would be a happier place for you to live? In Canada or Argentina?
It's better they stay happy in Argentina. What bad have the Canadians ever done to you?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0103
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but ,i can bet on his préparetion of sécond novel which name propable ís “” The Patagonia grouses“” !
#105 i don't mind people knowing i live in canada i am proud to be telling everyone how this British criminals theft and murder natives, the same way they are now doing to Muslims to theft their land, when you find WMD let us Argentine know we might be able to take you more seriously, until then I can only imagine your are being funny. Lol what a joker you are.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I call it as I see it, put up or STFU, all homos are the same stalking on children and men is a common trade of their kind. Prove me wrong and stop blowing hot air..
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CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%
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They can take our ships,
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But they can’t take our freedom.
What a stupid old lady.
Still,
Another victory gone west.lol.
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@ the Editor
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0after reading this article I've posted a comment (about one hour ago) about the silly logic of Argentine government's policy with an “Animal Farm” quote.
I've seen it published here but now I cannot find it any more.
It has been removed by you I suppose.
Just curious to know why, to avoid wasting again my and your time in the future.
Thank you.
109
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's good to know... Listen, why don't you write a book yourself, you seem to have loads of interesting stuff in your mind...
@PH bin Laden
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“i am proud to be telling everyone how this British criminals theft and murder natives”
Don't you earn your living working on native property that was stolen by British criminals then?
Was land ever stolen from the native people in Argentina?
112@ you mean this post #79
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@89 yanqui,
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In my post @55 I applauded the British government for taking steps to curtail “vulture funds” harassing African countries. Where is the “hatred and bizarro world views” in that?
At least we have some common ground – love of Chile.
@112 Acchiappaladri
On behalf of the editor: your post is at @79.
@110 - PH
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about the Spanish criminals who murdered, raped and committed acts of genocide against the natives of Argentina?
Double standard, isn't it, pirat-hunter.
The same Pirat-hunter who wanted all the native Amerindians in Argentina to be rounded up and forced to live on reservations because they didn't agree with the government of Argentina, run by the descendants of the people who murdered their ancestors.
You are a racist hypocrite, Pirat-hunter.
112 Acchiappaladri
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you taking about this one?
79 Acchiappaladri (#)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 04:30 pm
“As long as I'm the President, they might retain the Frigate, but the freedom, dignity and sovereignty of this country will not be retained by any vulture fund” said Cristina Fernandez
You are absolutely right about that one. The freedom of Argentina, the dignity and the sovereignty have been squandered by TMBOA / Ol' Turkey neck / KFC long, long, LONG before any vulture fund even got a sniff of it.
The botox queen is left talking tough from a position of weakness. Argentina will no doubt pay up and want to keep it quiet. LOL
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@74 Didn't realise I was helping you survive. I'll fart instead. Probably more your style.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@80 Higher ground. Let's compare Britain and argieland. Britain - summit of Everest. argieland - Challenger Deep. The deepest ocean trench in the world. 6.86 miles DOWN.
@83 “Criminals don't deserve the right to even ask or point fingers at Argentina”. Mental incompetent. The ENTIRE world deserves the RIGHT to destroy argieland - and any of its “citizens”. “Citizen” is linked to “civilisation”. Argieland hasn't even HEARD of civilisation!
@91 As soon as I find you, you cowardly dog-turd, you will be cinders. No mistakes. And I don't have a family for reasons that are none of your dog-turd business. Make your threats, dog-turd coward. Seen your picture. I can take you in about 2 minutes. That was what I was trained to do.
@96 Canadian Immigration Service. Known foreign malcontent with terrorist, anti-Canadian views. Believed to be residing in Toronto. Probably unemployable. A student. Likely argentine origin but lies a lot. Unwashed. Scruffy.
@103 Faggotland.
@104 You must be a jihadi. There are NO innocent Muslims. There are no innocent argies. Can't watch your CFK movies. I don't like to vomit. But, for you, that's lunch, isn't it? Shall I send you a bag full?
117@ the argies will never understand what a “double standards” means.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's like trying to teach a pig how to speak.
Whenever anything went wrong it became usual to attribute it to the Vultures. If a window was broken or a drain was blocked up, someone was certain to say that the Vultures had come in the night and done it, and when the key of the store-shed was lost, the whole Argentina was convinced that Snowball had thrown it down the well. Curiously enough, they went on believing this even after the mislaid key was found under a sack of meal.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Ah, that is different!” said Moreno. “If Comrade Kristina says it, it must be right.”
...
ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL
BUT SOME ARGENTINES ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.
Very nice adaptation. Frankly I feel sad about the entire affair. One if the few peace and positive image building tools has been lost due to reckless leadership.
To my Argentine friends, you need to change course, like the Americans are considering democratically right now.
121
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But not you lot, you are the masters of double standards...
But the freedom, dignity and sovereignty of this country will not be retained by any vulture fund
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0/////////////////
Is one suggesting that Argentina its self could be impounded and lifted and transferred to whoever wants it.
We think her understanding of freedom and sovereignty is slightly misguided….
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123@ master to you
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That Libertad is a beautiful ship to behold.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It will always have this history to it now. For that, this is a sad affair.
126
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See it a natural evolution;
You lot can't steal SA natural resources anymore, so you go for the final product. It's ok, something we'll have to live with, kind of like with the rats...
When you loan people money, I'll bet you want them to pay you back.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0127@ now don't start crying
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Guzz Galeano,
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who's stealing our resources?
We sell, they buy. Everyone is happy.
You lot can't steal SA natural resources anymore
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0name one, thats legally yours that we have stolen,
The gold in Minas Gerais, the cobber in Chile, the oil in Venezuela and Argentina, the silver everywhere, you name it... But that's all in the past, of course. No hard feelings, now GTFO :)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My regards to the ones I know ;)
Urubus gather around dying and dead creatures.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Vulture funds only prey on weak currencies.
When debts are excessive and payments are not made, the bailiffs are sent in to possess assets. This time, the bailiffs get a boat.
The message to CFK is .. any asset that can be reached will be appropriated, up to the value of the unpaid debt.
The only way that CFK can keep urubus at bay is to be healthy.
A healthy economy can bring her the 'freedom and dignity' she so craves. Her answers are in her own hands.
133
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You'd better check your back should you dock in Montevideo in a UK vessel. Many messages were sent by the vulture fonds ;)
123 Guzz
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So we are “the masters of double standards...” are we now?
You Argentinian's are A-moral. do you know what that means? It means that you don't even know what morals are.
You borrow money and don't pay it back, you throw your own people ( and nuns!!! ) out of planes, your armed forces break the Geneva convention at will. You steal land from your neighbours..... does that not sound amoral to you?
But then ( as I suspect ) for you, that's just another day and you see nothing wrong with what you do and it's the rest of the world that is ganging up on you.......
Maybe you will learn what Morals are, maybe you will surprise us all. I doubt it, but you might surprise us........
For now, dinnertime is OVER. Just pay the bill and, I'll leave the tip “You can fool all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time”
CFK doesn't want to pay up and retrieve the ship, not when she can use it as an excuse to make a lot of noise about ''vulture funds'' and about how bad they are for wanting their money back. Then there is Ghana, who she can complain of ''siding'' with the ''vulture funds'', therefore deflecting attention away from the fact Argentina still has uncleared sovereign debt that she clearly does not wish to pay back, not at least the true amount owed, more a 'restructured' figure.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is of course the opportunity to make as much noise in the UN as possible about all this, to little real effect with the outside world, but as some would post on here, ''we love you Christina for standing up to those pirates''. Are these people so easily distracted by the obvious situation that is their current plight? An economy that is looking shaky, with INDEC fiddling the figures, with an isolationist policy that will strangle economic growth through lack of investment. I digress...
I wonder how Tinman and CFK will spin the subject of the docking fees which has just crossed the million mark?
I'm Uruguayan :)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But my uttermost hope is that Argentina doesn't pay that loan back, she already paid you vultures enough. You got everything, dammit, what more do you need? Greedy little scums, that's what you lot are, living on interests paid by the “3rd world”. Killing them off shouyld they obey, calling them innovative names such as terrorist/communist/socialist. You have no shame in your bones!
But you are right, dinnertime is over, and this time, it's your turn to go hungry. And I hope you feel it, feel the pain you are inflicting the world, if only to bring you down here to the mudder, so we can build something more equal together.
115@ Hook
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0116@ Condorito
118@ toooldtodieyoung
122@ Chicureo
the Mercopress website Editor
I apologize ! I am a stupid newcomer and I got lost in this long list of comments.
Yes, my post is @79. Your prompt help is welcome.
Thank you.
A cup of “espresso”, or a glass of wine, is paid for you here at the nearest bar: as soon as you happen to come here, give the bartender your nickname and you have your complimentary coffe or wine :-D
Senor/Senora El Think happened to come recently just 300 km far from my place and he/she enjoyed Genoa “focaccia”: unfortunately I cannot treat you with that tasty “focaccia” (personally I recomment plain “focaccia”, without onions: El Think’s taste doesn’t match exactly mine) because it is not traditionally baked here, but I suppose you can make a good toast to the fall of the Ladroprogresista regime with our local sparkling wines.
I am one of the 450’000+ Italian retail investors who made the painful mistake of trusting the new, fast growing, democratic Argentina and bought its bonds in late ‘90s. Almost 25 per cent of us resisted Argentine blackmailing and did not accept their poor swap offers.
During the last 7-8 years I have been educated in advanced zoology by Kirchneristic governments and their supporters and now I am proud to know that actually I am not a human being but a bird … a little vulture. I did not realize it for most of my life: I badly needed Ladroprogresista wisdom to fix my stupidity.
My wings are still short and weak and unfortunately I cannot lift that Argentine vessel in Tema: so I am gladly leaving Libertad to Mr. Singer’s stronger wings.
But a large (70’000) flock of us flew to Washington DC to sue Argentina at the ICSID some years ago. Before the end of 2013 also our talons and wings will have the cumulative strength to grab and lift any Argentine asset our law firm can find around the globe, if the the Argie government doesn’t change its suicidal scofflaw policy.
Do the Muppets have their countries back?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@132 all those things stolen by Latin Europeans. And they're not doing so well, so they're you go. (except Braz & Arg have major ties to them).
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Check the Catholic church closets, you'll find your silver and gold and some of your male children stored there.
#114, #117, #118, #119, #120, #121, #122, #124, #128,#129, #130, #131, #133. When USA, UK and Canada find the WMD and stop raping, murdering and violating innocent Muslim women and children in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sirya, lebanon, Palestine, Yemen and turkey we Argentine might answer your questions, but even if you do we reserve the right to simply ignore all english retards. Did you find the WMD?.. lol
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x720694
www.nazret.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2387&sid=9377af41a42c3e1f3a6f3b7e681b8fd8
CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_orfcGnaseE&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwBJltxZgY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDITjw6ahz0&feature=related
@PH bin Laden
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now that you've been living in Canada for a while, I wanted to ask,
Are you more attracted to “english speaking” women now? Or do you still miss women from your own country?
141 , 141 , 141 , and 141 ,
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0why do you always miss this one out.
or the one says , is the who hides.
and you are hiding in canada.
I guess the Muppets still don't got their countries back.
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0146 says: “All anglos are pedos” did you hear that lads?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0by the way, i'm still not from UK, neither am i Anglo, you stupid pedo.
Oh but you are, you are. PIMP.
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0See I told you you are.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Plebs, yuck (right David C.?)
Anyone remember that I said Chaco paying their U$ interest payment A$ was the canary in the coal mine. Formosa is next so watch the Pesefication of Rgs wealth continue.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How these people can be robbed of their wealth over and over and still fall for the same shenanigans year after year is dumbfounding.
Not a smart people...
@151
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Muppet, how many times did you get your face ripped off?
Not a smart people.
#142, #143 when Your lot stops murdering innocent Muslim women and children in AFGHANISTAN, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon , Libya, Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and India we Argentine might listen, until then why don't you english people show us the WMD! If that was ever truth. As all your others lies and bogus charges against people Everywhere.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#147 you know #146 is right.
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x720694
www.nazret.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2387&sid=9377af41a42c3e1f3a6f3b7e681b8fd8
CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_orfcGnaseE&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwBJltxZgY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDITjw6ahz0&feature=related
152
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Add the times he ripped himself :)))))
@154
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the bankers still got his country... but he's happy that they got a wooden ship.
Neighbors, do me a favour, should it come to the point that they intend to take it, let them dive to get it... Please... :)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505245_162-57537631/prices-of-facebook-stock-since-long-awaited-ipo/
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know the truth hurts Brits and yanks: your once proud countries, the cynosures and demiurges of capitalism, free enterprise, private stock market probity, and dynamic entrepeneurship... have been reduced to criminal bankers, cheating companies, corrupt interest rate indeces, and of course... a ponzy scheme stock market casino.
I know, how the mighty have fallen...
And now you are not much more than Muppets, who get their faces ripped off, and the bankers hold your countries like they hold the ARA Libertad.
Of course, the difference is “slight” between having a wooden sailship, and holding entire countries as property. Because that's what Europe and the USA are, property of Banking Inc.
And you Muppets, must know your place...
After all, you are Plebs.
(And all I said above is actually true, based on real news)
Sad, once such vigorous societies full of verve and spunk, reduced to this, to be called Muppets and plebs.
I don't think the captain of the ship would like to stay in a Ghana prison over an unpaid debt for his country. Seems a bit extreme to me.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yankee as Ross Perot use to say about NAFTA....“hear that sucking sound?” That's the sound of argentina flushing themselves down the toilet.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone hear or read of one south american country making a statement of support, other than chubby chavo? Even Brazil is starting the toe step backwards. Nice deal on BMW opening a plant in Brazil.
1158
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trust me, one could always blame mal-functioning equipment and ooops, lack of personnel...
ARA Libertad : Paul Singer , Head of vulture fund NML said : We will never give in to banana republics that refuse to pay their debts , no matter what threats Guzz , Marcos Alejandro , Think and other trolls make .
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Once a cardboard collector , always a cardboard collector ” said Mr Singer from his plush hideout in the BRITISH Cayman Isles . “ Argies have got a 3rd world mindset , and want to be like Zimbabwe ” . “Incidentally , does anyone want to buy a large yacht ?” quipped the successful multimilionaire , sipping cold champagne , whilst pissing himself laughing at the thought of having embarrassed a G20 nation into national humiliation .
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hook
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whom are you talking to? If with me it's a double fail. I'm not Argentinian, and I wont shut up.
What I will do though, is expose your lies, atrocities and murdering of humanity and freedom. Most of all will I expose your truths though, you bloody need to hear them.
@157
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A troll post on here would be more successful if you had not included this
''corrupt interest rate indeces''
I suppose INDEC are the holders of truth regarding interest rates and inflation then?
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Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh but no! I agree I might have an issue with some porteños, but the Argentines are a great people... I think you should... no wait, that would be too much to ask of you, never mind...
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Go buy another TV or something :)
@165 Hook
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Please don't enter discussion that relies on trolling, hate and profanity.
This really does lower the whole argument against the South American born trolls who post here.
We have a rich and wonderful language which can be used for dialogue, when discourse descends to insult, it merely obfusticates the issue and makes readers somnifacient as they pass over the same old same old...
166@ prove that you are NOT Argentinian, again where were you from?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LEP
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you reading [167]?
Pay extra attention to “...makes readers somnifacient as they pass over the same old same old...”
obfusticates
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0somnifacient
??
169@ I'm waiting for your answer cinderella
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Except for the ol' drunk commie terrorist currently running Uruguay Guzz is the last Uruguayan still supporting CFK. I doubt he has been back to SA since his family fled to Europe in the 70s.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0168
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“prove that you are NOT Argentinian”
What is this, a court and you are the judge? You think I care where you believe I come from? Try this, I'm Swedish....
Briton
I assumed it meant sleepy :)
thanks
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@170
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://lmgtfy.com/?q=obfusticate
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=obfusticate
Sure yanqui, and my vote counted for 51% of the total ;)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#158, #159, #161,#164, #165,#167 and #168.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0when UK, USA and Canada stops murdering innocent Muslim women and children in AFGHANISTAN, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon , Libya, Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and India we Argentine might listen, until then why don't you english people show us the WMD! If that was ever truth. As all your others lies and bogus charges against people Everywhere.
#147 you know #146 is right.
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x720694
www.nazret.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2387&sid=9377af41a42c3e1f3a6f3b7e681b8fd8
CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_orfcGnaseE&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwBJltxZgY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDITjw6ahz0&feature=related
173@ i was right, you are an argie.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. obfusticate
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0°To deliberately make more confusing in order to conceal the truth. synonyms: darken, eclipse, overshadow, confuse more» , muddle, obscure ...
somnifacient adj. Tending to produce sleep; hypnotic
………………
Eye got headache does that help.
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p/h
is this a numbers game, and can anyone join in,
eye think,
34, 67, 45 , 2 , 5 , 48 , and the bonus ball, [17]
do you think we will win the lottery with these munbers..lol.
Well Hook, I think we can sum it up as you being obfusticated about my origin...
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#179 when Your lot stops murdering innocent Muslim women and children in AFGHANISTAN, Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon , Libya, Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and India we Argentine might listen, until then why don't you english people show us the WMD! If that was ever truth. As all your others lies and bogus charges against people Everywhere.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#147 you know #146 is right.
www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x720694
www.nazret.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2387&sid=9377af41a42c3e1f3a6f3b7e681b8fd8
CFK keep up the good work we support youn 100%
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_orfcGnaseE&feature=related
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUwBJltxZgY
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDITjw6ahz0&feature=related
180@ by the way, i didn't tell my origin either, i'm actually from Uruguay too.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the High Court of Justice Court of Appeal (Civil Division) On Appeal from the High Court Queen'S Bench Division (Commercial)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Between: Republic of Argentina, Appellant - and - NML Capital Limited, Respondent
APPENDIX 3
The terms of the bonds
... The republic has in the fiscal agency agreement waived any objection to related proceedings in such courts whether on grounds of venue, residence or domicile or on the ground that the related proceedings have been brought in an inconvenient forum. The republic agrees that a final non-appealable judgment in any such related proceeding ('the related judgment') shall be conclusive and binding upon it and may be enforced in any specified court or in any other courts to the jurisdiction of which the republic is or may be subject (the 'other courts') by a suit upon such judgment.
... the republic has hereby irrevocably agreed not to claim and has irrevocably waived such immunity to the fullest extent permitted by the laws of such jurisdiction ...
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2010/41.html
181
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0////////////try this,,,,,,,,,,,
…. / . / .-.. / .--./
Better that words.lol.
Are you another tax evader? Defusticate me!!!
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0185@ from where in Uruguay are you from?
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tres puentes tiene mi rio...
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0187@ doesn't prove anything
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, it proves you are not Uruguayan, or you would have known where I am from :)
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK has no intention of paying the docking fees, the flight home on air France and intends to sue the NML for all costs including wages, fuel, k-y jelly for the crew
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0189@ Yep, I'm from Colonia, beautiful place.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but actually you seem like a nice person, so it just might be you are actually from Uruguay, you are just deluded, you just have some small problems in your head, you're bit of a hippy and you defend everything even blindly. That's it.
187
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Three bridges have my river
That’s a viaduct, is it not….
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190,
one needs money to sue in the first place,
if one involves lawyers, then only the lawyers will win,
pay up, get boat back, have a party,
another victory for common sense,
mmm
@183
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So she HAS yielded Sovereignty effectively.
I don't think it will stop her and her cohorts making lots of noise about the situation.
However, it does speed up her isolationist policies. Would any Argentine state owned ship/aircraft/plane dare venture beyond the Argentine frontier, now that it is shown that with a bit of work, the finance companies that are still owed can make it possible to lawfully possess them?
Mind you CFK, look on the bright side. You do want to demilitarize the South Atlantic, start by sending your Navy and Air Force over to Africa. The ''vulture funds'' get some money back and you can be the pacifist Queen of South America...
191
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In here I would defend an Argentinian should the Brits blame them for being too Argentinian.
If we have issues with Argentina, we take it with Argentina, these vultures don't give a damn about you and me. What do you get out of having a go at Argentina on this site? These Brits are as the tango says, te reparten cartas marcadas y te condenan cuando trampeas.
I'm Olimareño, by the way.
marked cards you are dealt and you condemn when trampeas.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We believe the phrase is,
[ you’ve been tangoed ]
Or,
[Put all your cards on the table]
Just a thought,
See you lot tomorrow.
.
“You are dealt marked cards and condemned when you cheat”
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sleep well Briton
thanks.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz, you're just an ideologist. You live so near to Argentina that i'm sure you have other motives of defending them, you have family/relation/friends in Argentina..but you're just an ideologist without any concrete ideas, you just blindly defend them.
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have this hippy ideology but you don't give any concrete answers, just ideas. They are worth nothing.
Well Hook
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe in sustainable production, thus I promote local production instead of a globalized market. This assures shorter transportations as it avoids countries going bankrupt. I believe in socialism the way of Palme's Sweden, were the state collects taxes and uses the money to fund everything that is of common interest. I believe in a private market that boosts effition, competiveness and profit based on the environment and its needs.
Most of all I believe that if we in SA don't keep together, we will never achieve the before mentioned...
@183 Don Alberto
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thank you for the link to that London High Court of Justice, Court of Appeal Judgment
I am not a lawyer and that long (25 pages) document is complicated for me: it seems to me that on 4th February 2010 Argentina could eventually escape enforcement in England and Wales of the New York judgment obtained on 18th December 2006 by NML because NML made a sort of procedural mistake in its claim in the English courts.
Flooding in Argentina's Pampas grains belt has allowed fungus-based diseases to attack wheat crops already hobbled by scant planting while more wet weather puts off soy and corn seeding
Oct 23rd, 2012 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mmm Barley bread looks on to be on the horizon for Rgs.
I hope the harvest is as bad as last year.
I will laugh and laugh
200 Acchiappaladri
Oct 24th, 2012 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0If you do not comprehend the extremely lucid judgement of Law Lord Justice Richard Adjei-Frimpong, and consider that somehow NML have made a mistake may I suggest you have been given incomplete information.
@183 APPENDIX3 The terms of the bonds show an irrevocable waiver of immunity on the grounds of sovereignty by AG.
This was subsequently placed before the Supreme Court in the UK and Law Lord Collins (Supreme Court of Justice) there concluded that AG had made the fullest possible waiver of immunity. Law Lord Phillips had made the point that “if a state waives immunity it does no more than place itself on the same footing as any other person”.
In the CONCLUSION Law Lord Justice Richard Adjei-Frimpong made the only conclusion he could reasonably come to: there was insufficient evidence provided by the Defendant (AG) that would allow him to set aside his original judgement and remove the Order.
End off as TMBOA has already said she will not bow down to vultures bah de blah, etc.
In making her statement she appears to have disowned the Captain and 44 sailors: the very people who were carrying out their orders (which come from her government and hence she herself).
Hope this helps.
@201
Oct 24th, 2012 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0So now we add Spas to the places you can be blown in the USA?
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/spa-shooting-scene-described-as-chaotic-terrifying-v87b190-175515991.html
Oh and btw, the bankers still got your country.
@203 -
Oct 24th, 2012 - 01:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Places you can be blown? I see your superior english skills are on full display. Actually the best places to get blown are in Buenos Aires, around the Congreso and Tribunales neighborhoods, there are “massage parlors” everywhere and of course the police don't do anything because they are all owned by Argie judges and politicians and they collect lots of money for each “blow”. That's Argie business practices for you a nice “Blow, Nacional y Popular”!
@204
Oct 24th, 2012 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Muppet, the bankers still got your country. You need to protest some more. London, Paris, Madrid, Frankfurt, protests everywhere... but the bankers still got your country. What you gonna do, muppet?
@205 - Unfortunately soy Argentino, and with Kretina, avergonzado de haber nacido Argentino. I wish I could I could leave this horrible country, I am a professional, and I have a job that pays $5000 pesos per month. I am applying to jobs everywhere outside of this hell hole of a country I will even be a dishwasher or clean bathrooms just to get out of here. I never thought I would hate this country so much but now I do. I hope to leave soon this hell on earth!
Oct 24th, 2012 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0199@Guzz
Oct 24th, 2012 - 01:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry to let you down, but none of those things, nor that Swedish/Nordic-model will fit in SA-countries any time soon, especially in corrupt Argentina. I've been in both places, like in many other countries in the world. I just find it even funnier that you are supporting Argentina after what you wrote. The government of Argentina isn't interested/seeking any of those things, least it's interested of green-values. Argentina will never be Sweden, LOL, believe me, i have lived in both countries. Uruguay on the other hand might have chances, first because it's a smaller country and that Nordic-system is easier to install into a small country with less population. But first you'd need a non-corrupt way of doing things, and that's how things are traditionally done in SA. Besides Uruguay isn't even doing things locally, it wants to be bullied by Argentina and do things on Argentina's terms.
@206
Oct 24th, 2012 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good luck?
@205 GO-T
Oct 24th, 2012 - 02:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0...and we've got your boat, still.
And the world does not care.
Ooooo, that smarts, doesn't it?
CFK had better pay Air France. She can't go anywhere in an Argentine plane, anymore. At least until she packs her bags with YOUR money and leaves for good.
@209
Oct 24th, 2012 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know the world doesn't care. As I've said many times before, this story is only a story here. No one else in the world or Argentina is into it.
Pleb, know your place. You are not in government, nor are you a banker. Thus, you are Muppet, they only talk to you to rip your face off. That's your place if you are not in the EU, UK, US elite 2%. So keep low and submissive pleb, just like your gov and bankers want.
And yes, they still have YOUR country (not mine, we kicked them out years ago).
Are you and your children ready for Austerity 3, 4, 5, and 6??
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news/international/Mexico_seeks_WTO_panel_in_trade_dispute_with_Argentina.html?cid=33786878
Oct 24th, 2012 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news/international/Mexico_seeks_WTO_panel_in_trade_dispute_with_Argentina.html?cid=33786878
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news/international/Mexico_seeks_WTO_panel_in_trade_dispute_with_Argentina.html?cid=33786878
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/news/international/Mexico_seeks_WTO_panel_in_trade_dispute_with_Argentina.html?cid=33786878
What an effing disaster this country is!
#201 I kind of like your dark sense of humor!
Oct 24th, 2012 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was wondering if you think this is funny?
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=NJ6VzwubxxA
You should be more positive to people, I on the other hand wish your harvest is plenty. Libya is already paying off. And if I am not mistaken the vultures are going to pay 20.000.000.00U$ dollars for :-) :-) 20.000 pesos worth of lumber. You people are geniuses! Do you want to buy the obelisco too ?
@206, it's GOODto travel. People who act when they hear the whispers before they become rumbles encounter good lives & good people. Buenisima suerte!
Oct 24th, 2012 - 03:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0@210 GOT
Oct 24th, 2012 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0“keep low and submissive pleb, just like your gov and bankers want.”
It's the other way around TTT, you are the one who blindly does CFK's bidding, like a mindless zombie.
She speaks in your ear and you repeat the approved 'story' ( did you see what I did there?)
I pity you that you have to defend a mad woman.
What amuses me is CFK pledging never to yield to vulture funds, then she abandons the ship, thus yielding to the vulture fund.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0No wonder the Argentine people aren't happy. CFK has made them a laughing stock, and they've lost their flag ship.
Not only that, but she has humiliated the Armed Forces, and treated the crew like pawns in her silly games.
Several heads have rolled over this incident, I wonder how long it will be before CFKs head joins them?
@215 LEP
Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Who provokes the military, just as you are teetering on the edge?? :-D
Hook
Oct 24th, 2012 - 07:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has a long way to go. Taking control of her own market is one of the most important steps to take. For this, the pesification is needed. You can't have a country run by foreign currency. Also the control of the natural resources is crucial in order to achieve welfare. But you are right, we all need to stop thinking that the good stuff will rain down on us just because we look good. We also need to understand the taxing system and respect it, and that goes both for the tax payers and the ones responsible for the use of the money.
Food in school, free education and hospitals, toll-free roads, clean streets, free sports facilities, you name it, everything is possible...
207
Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0happy dreams in US sleeping time.
@218 - Tinx
Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have you been hired as a talking clock by mercopress?
What does it matter what time someone posts?
Do you understand what Coordinated Universal Time is?
Do you understand that people work all kinds of different types of hours, including night time in their jobs?
But MOST importantly, do you actually have anything RELEVANT to say on these threads? If not, go away, then come back when you do.
Your 'fascination' with the time people post is infantile.
217@Guzzie “because we look good” ..who thinks you look good? i still think you are Argentinian, since you use typical argie-rhetoric. Only an argie would say something like that.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Besides, everybody in Argentina says Uruguay is fed buy Argentina and that Uruguayan people live from the money of Argentina, and that Uruguayan people are simple and stupid and that they need Argentina.
No wonder they say argies are arrogant.
Shame such a beautiful ship didn´t even go down without a fight, but rather was abandoned. I wonder if i can buy the ship, and sail it past argentina on my way to the falklands?You think they will except Uruguayan Pesos?
Oct 24th, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also @220 Hook
There are some Argy models that i do find quite attractive, but that is personal taste.
Also HaHa i bet you if you went around in montevideo and asked Uruguayans who would the kill, if the had the chance, most would say the argies. And the rest are just like Guzz
Woah, we have the entire Uruguayan opposition gathered in this thread. Don't you have the elections 2019 to prepare?
Oct 24th, 2012 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, but that would be a site to see i bet. Also it is still Years away, we have more important things on our minds, like getting ready for summer, and spending our pesos here rather then argyland, just like a lot of the Argies do.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz, you know quite well that you're a weirdo xD
Oct 24th, 2012 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Same as British_Kirchnerist (whereas I suspect other, more plausible reasons for his weirdness). You kind, is rather a masochistic one.
Argentines around the world demand CFK to implement a Ghana tax to all corporates investing and trading in Ghana until Argentina pays for a fleet of new modern navy ship, Back wall WTO and use the laws to exploit all terrorist corporation's, tax evator, polluters, illegal mining across borders, mineral theft, corrupt GMO used to theft from the farmers, We buy the seed we own it. Stop the theft of our resources and the destruction of the environment, we also demand CFK to amend our constitution so I am free to vote for here again next elections. We are proud of CFK, but am disappointed with the navy I am flag we didn't keep a bunch of inept on pay roll, CFK has more balls then our navy. For this reason we support a nuclear defence program for Argentina, I do not want my tax money to end up in a terrorist state like USA or UK. we love you CFK keep up the good work, ni un Paso atras, y vamos poor mas.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0225@ i would vote for CFK too, she is the prez Argentina deserves.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@225 - PH
Oct 24th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're Canadian, why do you care?
Hey you Canadian puddle pirate. If cuntina had balls she's be a man, she may look like one, but she is not. The military acts under the oders of the Commander in Chief of the military, cuntina. Her balls is their balls. If cuntina had such big balls, she would have sent a naval task force over there.....opps, navy is not big enough, or enough money to buy fuel for the trip. You should be quiet before sume Mounted Police put you out in the tundra.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@225 Alex Bargas
Oct 24th, 2012 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Argentines around the world demand CFK to implement a Ghana tax to all corporates investing and trading in Ghana until Argentina pays for a fleet of new modern navy ship, ”
How do you make this stuff up??!!
LOL LOL LOL LOL
It seems as if things are getting a bit unconfortable in Tema harbor. The harbor master is complaining that the Libertad is taking up valuable space and it is taking longer to unload cargo, especially with the increase in deliveries for the holiday season, ships are piling up anchored out of harbor and clogging traffic. They wrote a letter to the captain asking for the ship to be moved. Obviously even the harbor master is expecting to collect a brive. Stay where you are Captain! Ghana is responsible for you not being allowed exit, its their problem. It will continue to get uneasy and dangerous to enter in the coming weeks. Ship insurance gets costlier, insurance gets cut off, no ships, no cargo, no exports, no foreign curency. Time is on your side.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I've got lot's of pretzels and beer to wait this out.
@230 GOT TTTT
Oct 24th, 2012 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OMG - the Libertad is paralysing the port of Tema and destroying Ghana's shipping industry!!
It is economic disaster!
Methinks you are being a bit melodramatic TTT
LOL
231 Troy Tempest (#)
Oct 24th, 2012 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It is economic disaster!”
Call it what you want, the heat is starting to rise in the kitchen.
159 Captain Poppy (#)
“Nice deal on BMW opening a plant in Brazil.”
It think that this is just lovely. This is good for Brazil, Mercosur, and Unasur. Lot's of auto parts work will be contracted out to Argentina, Uruguay and others in the region. Luxury car demand in Argentina alone has increased by 40%. This led to the government to negotiate a participation in the parts manufacturing for these luxury models. The agreement is in place. With all of the slowdown in the world and the region, this comes along just nicely.
If it's build in Argentina, it will fell in parts..
Oct 24th, 2012 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i would never buy a beemer build in Argentina, buahahahaha,,,the whole idea is just crazy absurd, a beemer made in Argentina, wholy fuck.
Hook
Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Something tells me you are another tax evading brit that loves to bash Argentina... You know quite a bunch of nothing of the country you live in, don't you?
@232 PRoBedRG
Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Call it what you want, the heat is starting to rise in the kitchen. ”
Weak try.
It is a minor irritant, like you.
PROrg-AMERICAN.....BMW has standards that argentina cannot meet. And RG's will need U$ dollars to by a BMW. Brazil is offering tax reaks for auto plants so more will be coming and thatswhen Brazil will forget they are members of mercosur and una whatever. Brazil does not subcontract out to other countries for parts......BMW does and a lot will be imported as is the case for ALL BWMW plats.....from China. argentina is the caged animal inside the zoo looking out. Get use to seeing others walk by.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@236 Captain Poppy
Oct 24th, 2012 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0SOUNDS DIFFERENT TODAY...HIS WIFE ISOLDE YENSERE-ly SKARE RAPED HIM!
@234 says you who lives in Sweden and gobs off about rgenweener, go home the economy needs you
Oct 24th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@237 - SussieUS
Oct 24th, 2012 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your post is offensive and I've asked the moderators to remove it.
Why don't you actually comment on the article? Or are you going to hide behind using different usernames forever?
What do you think about the fact that the Argentine President has said she won't yield to vulture funds, then immediately yields the ARA Libertad to a so called vulture fund?
Who pays attention on this comments? Is just a wate of time!
Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@240 - SussieUS
Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If your going to pretend to be someone else you really need to change your syntax.
You're not very clever are you? And you still haven't answered the question. What do you, a loyal Argentinan who loves Agentina so much that you don't live there, think about your president yielding to vulture funds?
#226 that's why I support CFK 101% I also demand she build a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina and to implement a new tax for imports called Ghana tax to replace the Argentina navy fleet stolen.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#227 I live in Canada but we have the right to go to Afghanistan and arm terrorists we also can kill libyans and innocent Muslim women and children, why couldn't an Argentina support CFK she is our elected president isn't she? I have a DNI and you probably don't even know what that is. So go find us WMD and and quit praying Argentine.
#228 CFK had more balls then the navy they all bailed while CFK was delegating plan b at the UN, you loose try again. Any WMD yet or is that still a bogus charge like all the BS coming out of english talking heads.
#229 you still fantasize about Argentine guys? Did you find the bogus WMD or killed all the ,Muslims yet?.
#239 Los hermanos Sean unidos porque..............Los devoran Los de Afuera....CFK couldn't pilot the ship her self I think the navy does that but the navy abandoned libertad. And no group of Argentine occupyed the us embassy in protest, giving CFK no option but to go to UN to be told screw you, so now I hope you have enough balls to support a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina and also we need your help to push for a new import tax called Ghana to be charged to every none south American country to replace the stolen navy ship and pay for our borders and sea patrols. I wonder if you believed that there was WMD in Iraq because I don't know where you get those chilly CFK bogus theories.
This is how people who lie end up and we all laugh at the clowns.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=NJ6VzwubxxA
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=NJ6VzwubxxA
@242 the navy never gave to order to give up the ship it was CFK who gave the instruction, this whole episode has cost her more than $20m and has been very poorly handled.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@234 Something tells me you are another tax evading brit that loves to bash Argentina... You know quite a bunch of nothing of the country you live in, don't you?
Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow says Guzz who lives in Sweden. pays no taxes in rgenweener and boasts about the education he is given tax free in Sweden two faced or what?
244
Oct 24th, 2012 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In Denmark, thank you very much.
And so what? I'm not evading taxes, the Danish SU is taxed, what's your point???
I just heard on an LA Spanish media that the shipping companies awaiting to unload in Tema are complaining. The Libertad affair is having an impact on their books. It seems that the harbor is small, this is a peak shipping season, and there are no alternative ports nearby. There is too much delay in unloading, perishables on dock and on waiting ships are at risk, there are costs impacts, deliveries are being impacted, clients are complaining, insurance agencies and brokers are nervous. Mmmmmm.
Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Popcorn anyone.
@242 Pirat-Hunter
Oct 24th, 2012 - 10:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If i may ask, what is with you and Nuclear Defence Programs and WMD?Where will the Government get the money needed to manufacture the materials to build the Plant. Where will they get the Uranium?from iran?That seems both possible and impossible. But why would they need such a thing? they have no enemies bent on destroying Argentina. They have no Cause to build the facility, or maintain it. If the Argy naval vessals are soo poorly maintained, do you think they will maintain such a facility that they will never use highly maintained?Doubt it. Uruguay has more of a chance to get a Nuclear facility than Argentina, and it doesn´t even allow any. Also is your proposed Ghana tax was to get passed, which i also doubt, it will hurt imports because they will now have to pay even more money to get their goods into argentina, where they can just go to chile or brazil or even paraguay and sells the same amount of goods without having to pay such high taxes. Also to end this there are no WMDs in Iran, no one thinks that, so please stop.
247 Uruguayan_And_Proud (#)
Oct 24th, 2012 - 11:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To answer you question in general terms, most of the infrastructure for a nuclear weapons program is in place. The Uranium is in argentine mines. It is being mined, processed and enriched in In Argentina. US Companies have been buying Uranium from Argentina for their nuclear program for decades and paying good money for it. Argentina has had the technology to build a nuclear bomb since 1976. There are indications to believe that it was tested at a Laboratory level.
Funding of the military and a nuclear program is a matter of priorities and needs. The underfunding and persecution of the military has its consequences, and the results are clear on the horizon.
You disappoint me when it comes to knowledge of your region. Please inform yourself before making a comment.
See the nice photos
http://www.cnea.gov.ar/proyectos/pilcaniyeu_imagenes.php
http://www.cnea.gov.ar/proyectos/pilcaniyeu_imagenes.php
http://www.cnea.gov.ar/proyectos/pilcaniyeu_imagenes.php
http://www.cnea.gov.ar/proyectos/pilcaniyeu_imagenes.php
http://www.cnea.gov.ar/proyectos/pilcaniyeu_imagenes.php
See the nice video
http://www.cnea.gov.ar/proyectos/pilcaniyeu_imagenes.php
US Uranium
http://www.cnea.gov.ar/proyectos/pilcaniyeu_imagenes.php
http://www.cnea.gov.ar/proyectos/pilcaniyeu_imagenes.php
I am a human, and i am prone to make mistakes. But the question still stands, WHY? there is no reason to build a nuclear facility, or any bombs. Argentina is not involved in any major conflicts that would prompt the use of nuclear weapons. If argentina was to use one the whole world would take action against them. There is no reason to build them and didnt they sign a treaty which stated that they wouldnt build any nuclear weapons.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I hope you start (lololololololo)a nuclear program as well, it will hasten cuntina kirchners life, unfortunately innocent argentines also
Oct 25th, 2012 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@250 Captain Poppy
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0If that thing Explodes(which it will) it will affect all us uruguayans, who didnt want any part of it in the first place
250@none of the Argentine's are innocent; they should be demolished.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Libertad cadets arriving in BA 'after midnight' as plane delayed...
Oct 25th, 2012 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Malvinas veterans' anyone?
wotawank..
@253 frank
Oct 25th, 2012 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Libertad cadets arriving in BA 'after midnight' as plane delayed...
'Malvinas veterans' anyone?”
Frank, do you think it is deliberate? Could CFK be that embarrassed??
The crew aren't happy:
Oct 25th, 2012 - 06:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.canadianbusiness.com/article/103854--crew-of-argentina-s-seized-ship-libertad-arrive-home-from-ghana-on-air-france-charter
252
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are just a common racist.
You put Uruguay in bad light with your childish comments.
All of the sudden a lot of “Uruguayos” popped up, you are nothing but a bunch of Euro/US tax evaders who's major wish is that Uruguay becomes your next cheap tourist destination.
Say what you want, you will NEVER achieve to divide SA, we are above borders.
Kirchner, Chavez, Morales, Correa, Rousseff and Mujica for now, Peru and Chile will join us in a near future. Heck, I don't think you'll even get Paraguay...
#251.....it will never happen anyway. Programs that start are always known about, they glow like stars in the night from satellite imagery.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0*Brazil will never allow it to happen because they are too close.
*They do not have the funds needed to weaponize uranium, despite what they believe
*There would be chatter about it no matter how secretive anyone is, there is always chatter and the NSA would hone in on that like white on rice.
*if there were any development going on, the big 5 would know, I really doubt that there is. This is close enough to NA that I do not think we would allow it, Brazil would not allow it. I do believe that argentina leaders would like one, but they would like their debt to go away too.
@248 - PRoRG
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Er, there's more to developing a nuclear weapon than having some uranium.
You need expertise (that Argentina doesn't have), money (that Argentina doesn't have), technology (that Argentina doesn't have) and an ability to accept and ride out the consequences of breeching the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, and the fact that both Brazil and Chile would immediately cede from the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and develop weapons of their own to point at BA using the argument that it would be an act self defence against Argentine aggression.
So I really don't think the rest of the world needs to worry, just yet.
167@ Raven; “This really does lower the whole argument against the South American born trolls who post here”
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0who? where? i can assure you, all these 'trolls' barking here are all Argentinian, leave the others out of it. There's no way an Uruguayan for example would be writing here everyday defending Argentina, no way..
think about it this way; would you be writing into a foreign language newspaper every day blindly defending France for some obscure reason? i didn't think so either, it doesn't make sense.
you're doing a bad generalization here, i know lot of people from SA, they don't give a rats-ass about Argentina and their claims, why would they? it's not their country.
@254 Troy
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes I think it was deliberate to avoid media attention.
256@
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0- rasist? Argentinians aren't a race, so i can't be racist.
- jaja, you are the ones who want a nuclear weapon.
- divide South America? no one wants to become like Argentina and adopt their shitty economic model and become a pariah state..maybe just Venezuela and Bolivia, poor bastards. They are already aware of Argentina's situation everywhere in SA and waiting and watching when you'll collapse...
As all of SA are watching and waiting for another collapse of argentina, it is an ideal time for Chile to expand her borders. What can argentina do, send in the border guards?
Oct 25th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0bahahahahahahahaha, I mean jajajajajajajaja
@262 - Captain Poppy
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well they certainly couldn't send their Navy, it's busy being impounded for non payment of debts!
Hook
Oct 25th, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right, not racist, you little fascist...
actually not so little. I weight about 120kg with bf around 15%
Oct 25th, 2012 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do muay thai, boxing and i own 9 firearms. So make your best shot commie.
just know your place, turd. You are in Uruguay to spend as much pounds sterlings as possible. You aren't allowed to vote, so do what you signed for and all is fine.
Oct 25th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0266@ and i'll show a place to an argie-commie by smashing his head against a pavement
Oct 25th, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hook
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then, all of the sudden, you wake up with an erection that once again reminds you of why you are so upset with life...
268@ woman, you should just kill yourself, i can lend my pistol
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0;)
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cheeheeheers for the name-change by the way, Hook is a lot easier to type...
Guzz sure you are not pirate hunter? He always seem to interject a penis in his topics too, this case you desire for Hook's erection. You wanting him to interject it?
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wont give you the pleisure Captain Poppy, I'm not the man for the job. Try googling, and I quote you, “You wanting him to interject it?”
Oct 25th, 2012 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I hope you find what you seek.
You brought the errection up guzz whats on your mind? All you south american indians always say somethings about penises....why?
Oct 25th, 2012 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0268 Guzz (#)
Oct 25th, 2012 - 05:01 pm
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Hook
Then, all of the sudden, you wake up with an erection that once again reminds you of why you are so upset with life...
Becuse it's true?
Oct 25th, 2012 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey Guzz, I wake up with an erection everyday, well, almost every day, and I thank God! Why is waking up with an erection synonymous with a failed life? It sounds like a stupid question and I'm not baiting you, I just don't get the metaphor.
Oct 26th, 2012 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0275
Oct 26th, 2012 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0It depends on what you are looking on those particular mornings ;)
276
Oct 26th, 2012 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, I see it as a reaffirmation of life and it would be worse to wake up everyday without one.
@277 it's a sign that you are healthy person and that you have good testosterone levels.
Oct 26th, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I bet Guzzi's boyfriend is a total limp dick.
Hahahaha you two!!!
Oct 26th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are priceless :)))))
279@ you enjoy this don't you?`why not get a hobby? go defend the delfines instead. Or maybe not, you would probably poison them accidentally,..here at least you can't do any harm..
Oct 26th, 2012 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0280
Oct 26th, 2012 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can't do dolphins, doctor told me not to interact with anything smarter than a jellyfish... Therapy, you know.. ;)))
please never respond to Guzz he is just a troll, and a silly one at that. he cannot even decide which country he wants to pretend he is from. :)
Oct 27th, 2012 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine people around the world support CFK 100%.
Oct 27th, 2012 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And we demand CFK to create a vulture tax for imports coming from all nations in support of vulture funds. There is no need to travel around the world to deliver a message when you can do it from your home. We kindly thank all outsider for their cheerful support and self serving contributions, but ultimately is the Argentine people who will bear the consequence of our actions. When every friend is out to back stab you it is better to stay home with your family!..this tax will do exactly that make those vulture funds supporting nation keep their busyness at home, a hefty 25% vulture tax can be a good starting base. Just an idea, One of the many because apparently a nuclear defence program is costly and we need as much revenues as we can gather. A few years ago in Ontario Canada I witness how the government overcrowded jail with panhandlers and homeless to use the excuse to build a new super jail. All in a days work for the “gringo”, I wonder what the squeegee kids are doing this days? last time I seen them they where steering up trouble with the occupy movement.
Argentine people around the world support CFK 100%.
Oct 27th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You moron all those protest where not support. Just wait until November worldwide protests. Apparently you are not smart enough to understand what 100% means. You are one angry displaced chicocito alexis
MONDAY: “As long as I'm the President, they might retain the Frigate, but the freedom, dignity and sovereignty of this country will not be retained by any vulture fund” said Cristina Fernandez on Monday
Oct 27th, 2012 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TUESDAY:“Abandon ship”
248 ProRG_Argie
Oct 27th, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you actually READ that drivel you posted in the links?
You don’t even have to understand nuclear physics (which I do) to realise that terms like “we will” and “we are prospecting” and “in America Bluesky is one of the largest companies in processing ore” and ALL the other dipshit “information” does NOT COVER processing weapons grade materials. No where near it.
And I for one don’t need two links the same with a picture of TMBOA. Tip: you lot would have more chance of frightening people if you put her picture on the worlds PC systems than ever you have the hope of developing the crap from 1976!
In case you had missed it with your head up TMBOA skirts, it’s nearly 2013, NOT 1976. THIRTYSEVEN YEARS is way, way out of current technology.
And don’t crow about the medical reactor in Australia. You lot fcuked up big-time on that one, didn’t you?
If it were not for the fact 3.5 million people I actual admire were just over the plate I would encourage your so-called scientists to work on the technology, safe in the thought there would either be a BIG radiation leak or a precursor explosion.
The scientists who were available in 1976 have either retired or died. You new clutch of trainees are leaving the mad-house for elsewhere. And with idiots like you and the cnut in Canada on ‘their side’ who can blame them?
What a bunch of scientific morons.
Uruguayan_And_Proud
Take no notice of this idiot or of his stupid, stupid claims. Believe me there is NO chance this bunch could get anywhere near making a nuclear bomb and NOWHERE near a working missile delivery system.
@283 PH ALEX VARGAS
Oct 27th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“A few years ago in Ontario Canada I witness how the government overcrowded jail with panhandlers and homeless to use the excuse to build a new super jail. All in a days work for the “gringo”, I wonder what the squeegee kids are doing this days? last time I seen them they where steering up trouble with the occupy movement.”
Alex, what tripe are you peddling now?
- first, it's way off-topic, another Toronto-centric rant because you cannot travel, and have experienced nothing else.
- secondly, this is just one more unsubstantiated wild conspiracy theory
-also, what is the significance of “gringo”?
Do think perhaps the chip on your shoulder and your racism may be a barrier to integrating in what is a very egalitarian and inclusive society ??
With it's large percentage of immigrants, Toronto likely has less than 60% of it households speaking English or French as a first language.
You are the odd (supposedly reluctant) immigrant that does not fit in.
- Occupy Toronto, how long ago was that? A year? More?
And what happened in Canada - they were given lots of press and were unmolested, though many health, property damage, and drug laws were broken.
In Argentina, I don't think they would put up with protests - split a few heads, maybe? But then, who cares - those people deserve it and are not productive for CFK and Argentina, right???
Is your father still in prison?
283 Pirat-Hunter (#)
Oct 27th, 2012 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine people around the world support CFK 100%.
So why are you, and them not in Ghana fighting for your ship back, fully supporting CFK .
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@288 briton
Oct 27th, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he won't answer - too busy telling La Campora and the other, less-privileged Argentinians how to fight battles in court and in the streets, while he drinks latte's in Canada
The only reason he is drinking latte is because he tried mate' when he was an argentine and hated it it......made him move to Canada. Latte almost sounded like mate'!!!
Oct 27th, 2012 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@290 CP
Oct 27th, 2012 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0what is “maté”, a children's drink, or is it an opium laced drink sometimes used to quiet kids when they are teething??
Mate is a plant, we hack it and mix with hyacinth, ginger-root, lemon and sugar. Hot water on it makes it sweat, stir for 10 minutes and then drink in one go. Try it, very refreshing.
Oct 27th, 2012 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's like their national drink, they even have these special cups with a straw to drink it from....the Irish have their Guiness....the Argentine's have their mate'
Oct 27th, 2012 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@292, 293
Oct 27th, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for the explanations.
Is it an intoxicant then, like Fijian “Cava”, from Cavaroot?
294
Oct 27th, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A bit maybe... You get a bit dizzy after a few of them, but in the sun its hard to tell...
LOL
Oct 27th, 2012 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trouble with some Argies,
Oct 28th, 2012 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that they engage their mouth, before they engage their brain,
Which is great, if you had a brain to engage .lol.
briton do you hate all argentines or just the ones you do not know, or just the government?
Oct 28th, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0nope,
Oct 29th, 2012 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0just the CFK goverment,
and those argie bloggers who spend all their time insulting us,
most are ok.
but some are so indocrinated,
they would comit hari kari if told to..
Good glad to hear that. That's the way I feel also. The indoctrinated ones are like robots! They cannot think for themselves.
Oct 29th, 2012 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0cheers.
Oct 29th, 2012 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos alejandro
Oct 29th, 2012 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am beggining to see your view point with regards to having Argentine Nukes. What would you say if the first one should be tested just a few miles off the coast of Ghana?
Brilliant message of Churchillian defiance from the great Cristina. This is becoming a global cause celebre against the despicable vulture funds. Btw its just a distortion to say she's “giving up”, quite the opposite; she's refusing to give any ground, as is absolutely right, but will also I imagine get the ship back =) She's such an inspirational leader and fighter
Oct 29th, 2012 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Libertad is going to look great on the Hudson River next to the USS Intrepid
Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@302
Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I am beggining to see your view point with regards to having Argentine Nukes. What would you say if the first one should be tested just a few miles off the coast of Ghana?”
When, 2250?
303 BK
Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina would not have been good enough to even lick the sweat off Winston's dog's balls, how dare you even mention the two in the same sentence.
@306 Zhivago
Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0That is what really makes me doubt BK's identity - nobody with a British or Allied perspective would compare that grasping clawing selfish harpy to one of the greatest leaders of the Free World.
307 Troy
Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was so upset I had to have a scotch and I usually don't imbibe on weeknights!
I really suspect BK being a Scot as well. I am not from the UK, but I can't image ANYONE from the UK comparing a man that steered the UK through WWII to a politically corrupt populist like kirchner. He is probably a sargent in the la campora corps.
Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0309 Poppy
Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No point in being nice about it, he's a ball-licker, pure and simple!
But she's doing the same thing here, she's refusing to surrender her coutry's dignity and taking the more difficult but honourable path of defiance
Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WHAT FUCKING DIGNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE REFUSES TO PAY BACK MONEY THEY BORROWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 30th, 2012 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0she's refusing to surrender her coutry's dignity
Oct 30th, 2012 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BUT she has already sold her countries soveriengnty.
has she not.
311 British Idiot
Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you want to compare her to a figure in history I think Nero would be more apt. They were both very ugly, they both got to power by sleeping with someone powerful, neither accomplished much while in office, both suffered from retardation and syphilis and most importantly both did or are doing nothing while their country burns. (apologies to any descendants of Nero for making the comparison)
Zhivago.....brilliant, just brilliant comparison! I think I will mail her a picture of a fiddle.
Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0#314 Who did Nero sleep with to inherit the title of emperor? And its not such a dirty thing to sleep with one's own husband you know!
Oct 31st, 2012 - 01:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Bride of Frankenstein, perhaps.
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Oct 31st, 2012 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0His mother and his aunt for starters. Who said anything about being dirty, I was referring to opportunism, maybe you should just slip back into your scum pond if you can't come up with anything better than that!
I can. She's not ugly like Nero, and not fiddling while her country burns...
Oct 31st, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, ok , you win..........prat! Have you been to Argentina lately? I was there two weeks ago and they are in pain, and that's in Argentina not expatriate Malvinistas spouting on about how they are sucking on the big socialist cock in northern europe while their countrymen are scrounging to pay the bills.
Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Zhivago.....bk has never left the comfortable confines of the UK, he speaks of kirchner vicariously. He listens to the controlled and moderated news from the government controlled media reports and the rest from the la campora trolls. Either he himself is a la campora troll and he knows how bad it is (we all know the paid trolls of la campora vomit the triumphs of kirchner) or he is just another etreme liberal idiot, blinded by his perpetual errection for cuntina, which is obvious as he always states how beautiful she is with 10kg of makeup painted on her brickyard face.
Oct 31st, 2012 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No one but him talks of her “beauty”, whats wrong with him? I bet bk is actually a female paid to blog about her beauty. asslip kirchner's ego of her looks is well known throughout SA.
”A vulture fund is a private equity or hedge fund that invests in debt issued by an entity that is considered to be very weak or dying, or whose debt is in imminent default. (vultures patiently circling, waiting to pick over the remains of a rapidly weakening company or, in the case of sovereign debt, debtor country).
Oct 31st, 2012 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Market practitioners prefer to refer to them as 'distressed debt' or 'special situations' funds.
Vulture funds focused on debt target not only corporate obligers, but also sovereign debtor states.
In the recent case of Argentina,
vulture funds bought up a significant portion of the country's external public debt at very low prices (sometimes only 20% of their nominal value), and then attempted to cash them when the Argentine economic crisis resulted in the bonds' default in January 2002.
(A single vulture fund run by Kenneth Dart, claimed $700 million in a lawsuit against the government of Argentina.)
**Argentine investors were behind many of the secondary market purchases, however. Some estimate that in the debt exchange of 2005, Argentine bondholders controlled over half of the debt tendered. **” (Wiki.)
It would seem that ... what ever CFK says ...
many of her vultures are Argentinian vultures.
#319....I knew you were an old fuck in thinking BNK is remotely attractive, but never realized just how old. SO tell me, how ugly was Nero?
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