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Cristina Fernandez ‘dollar-clamp’ is one year old and still going strong

Tuesday, October 30th 2012 - 07:34 UTC
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A year ago the administration of President Cristina Fernandez imposed the first of a long chain of foreign money exchange restrictions that have caused a serious impact on the economy, the private sector and other provincial and city governments. Read full article

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  • toooldtodieyoung

    HappyBirthday!!!! I'm sure everyone in Argentina will want to be out on the streets celebrating this most historic of days!!!

    TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / KFC / The Harpy should declare a national holiday so everyone can have a day of and think about the money that they would like to have spent in a country that no longer cares for them.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    “There is no dollar clamp” - are there a pre-defined number of times CFK has to say this for Argentines to believe it to be true?

    I suggest you all do your own research - go and buy some dollars to prove it isn't true.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Do Brits trade in dollars within the UK? No? Then zip it and watch the pesification happen. Vultures!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Ahh boo hoo, poor Argies and their silly ship. Lol

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    “Do Brits trade in dollars within the UK” - if we want to yes - though there's no particular need to.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    5
    So your housing market uses the dollar as currency of exchange? That's bullshit, and you know it. Always these Vrits with their “do as I say, not as I do”.

    Watch the pesification happen. Cry if need be.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    @6 If our currency was as crap as yours then yes we would use dollars. Since it is stable and inflation is low and we have a AAA rating compared to a B for Argentina, then no need. Do you have any other deflections from the mess you are in or are you going to address the issue instead?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    7
    You better start introducing Yen then, because you are rated A+ with a negative outlook...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    There is no need or desire of people in the UK to use dollars in the housing market.

    It's not the rest of the world that is pushing the Argentinian people to use dollars in the housing market, it has been the wish of the Argentinian people to use dollars.

    It makes no difference to any one outside of Argentina as to what currency the Argentinian people use for internal transactions.

    External trade is a different matter though and for Argentina it will depend on what what the peso is actually worth on the exchange market.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    “There is no need or desire of people in the UK to use dollars in the housing market.”

    Respect the Argentines that obviously thinks the same about dollars in the Arg housing market...

    I'm quite sure the peso will gain in value as soon as it takes over the areas dominated by the dollar :)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    The people in the UK are free to use dollars if they wish, there is no control on their purchasing of dollars, and there is no need for them to purchase dollars on the black market.

    Unfortunately for the Argentinians that wish to use dollars it is no longer an option for them, for those who wish to use dollars they would have to purchase most of these dollars on the black market.

    There is little chance of the Argentinian peso taking over any areas “dominated by the dollar”.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    @8 S&P and Fitch rate UK AAA while Moody rate it Aaa. If you can find a credible agency with a lower rating please post a source, otherwise we'll be forced to add lying to your cv.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_credit_rating

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    11
    “There is little chance of the Argentinian peso taking over any areas “dominated by the dollar”.”

    In Argentina? I would've believed you if it wasn't for all that crying...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @13
    what crying ?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    12
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13518747

    14
    Look, when SA is doing bad, the world doesn-t care, nobody pays attention. Just look at the military dictatorships.
    Now, when we are doing good, all you lot cry about how bad we are.
    You are transparent.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @15
    We are talking about current Argentinian dollar clamp.

    You bring up a stupid comment like crying, and explain it with an equally poor explanation.

    Many of SA countries may be doing well, but I don't think that that could be equally said of Argentina, this dollar clamp and the current administration is doing them no favours.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    16
    So tell me then, what is this new-found interest of Argentine well-being of yours all about?
    Why do you care all of the sudden?
    Why didn't you care during the dictatorships?
    Why didn't you lot speak up against the sell-out of our countries?

    I'll tell you why, it's because you lot gained from it.
    Now you do care, and I know why as well, it's because it's hurting your pockets.
    Financial crisis, my arse. Get used to it instead.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    @15 I said credible. Dagong is not credible compared to the rating agencies I listed. Before you argue, read this from the link you provided:

    Obviously this is not one of the main rating agencies that markets pay close attention to,” noted Sarah Hewin, European head of economic research at Standard Chartered.

    Sir, you have exposed yourself as an @rse again

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    18
    Well, having in mind that the market moved to China, and the Chinese are buying up your debts, I'd say Dagong is the only rating agency that should concern you ;)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    If I wanted to sell my home in $US i'd be perfectly entitled to. Whether anyone would pay dollars is another matter - it would just seem a bit odd.

    Can't think of a single reason the pantomime in Argentina is hitting Brits or anyone else in their pockets - other than the creditors you refuse to repay.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    20
    The problem isn't being able to buy/sell in dollars, the problem is not being able to do so in pesos...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    @19 You're an idiot. That is all.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @17
    A typical answer to distract.
    @21
    The problem for Argentinians is the lack of choice as to what the do with their pesos/money.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @23 That is what is causing the most unrest amongst Argentines - they are having their choices taken away step by step. Anyone who has spent any length of time there knows Argentines pride themselves on their rebellious, do-as-they-please attitude.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Guzz,

    You really love to show yourself as an arse! Why? Do u enjoy humiliating yourself? Weird!!!!!!

    I do love your repetative and more often than not, misguided beliefs! I especially like the fact that u seem to have the self belief that by using the internet as a source of information, that u understand everything and are right! For 1, you know absolutley nothing about china or her economy, and that, my little monkey, is fact!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    ;)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Your CommentOh! Wow! No response?? I will take that as an affirmative regarding you liking to illustrate ureself as an arse! What u doing? Searching google for another one dimensional angle on something irrelevant? Whacking one off to a picture of KFC?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Arse, monkey.... There's nothing substancial in your replies. What you want me to do? Start calling you names? :))))

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    In Guzzy's bizarro world when something of high demand is restricted it decreases in value and people eventually forget about it. when it is replaced with an inferior product nobody wants.

    Where do they teach this econ course UBA?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Hehe cat got your tongue? Grow up! How sad you cant take some very simple name calling (albeit the truth)!

    Anyway, re you new post on the article that follows this: the ship in question was a victim of weather, not of idiotic policy and inflated egos! Quite a fucking huge difference!

    Back to this thread, please tell us, oh wise monkey, more about china and her place on the economic stage! Try doing it without the power of google!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    Guzz, are you really a prostitute?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Come now! Thats way to flattering! Guzz a prostitute? Please!!!!!! You do him proud!

    I envisage him as a very small impish like creature that plays with worms! He has hairy palms, teeth that grow backwards and a foot growing out of his spotty forehead! Basically he doesnt need a halloween costume!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Ahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
    AAAAAAaaaaaahhahahahahahaaha

    *pause*

    AAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaahahahahahahahahhaa!!!!!!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    32@haha, good one,,, anyways, that's what she basically told me in Swedish in the other forum

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Guzz i am disappointed ! Call giorgio and ask to borrow his thesaurus, but not sure there is an alternative word to “ aaaaaaaahahahaha”!

    Guzz you have beautifull proved my point about you being an imbecile! Many thanks and wish you a speedy recovery after your surgery!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    It's daft to compare the Argentine and British economies.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    35
    Mate, everything is relative, and in your deluded world, being a imbecile is like the famous phrase says;

    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed is king

    :)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Agree..... Its the same basket with different contents! However, lets compare Navy prowess! heheheheh

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I hope you made your ships edible :)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • surfer

    Yo, a little survey.

    What do people reckon is the current ACTUAL yearly inflation rate (CPI) in Argentina?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Oh guzzz! Erasmus!!! That was easy but guess u needed google! Very deep, however the world is not blind ( proven by you getting a ship impounded by a bailiff .... Hehe) and your one eye is probably impared by the foot dangling from your forhead ( but the bailiff seems to have two eyes and no foot disturbing his vision)

    Still waiting for your insight on the chinese economic model and its global impact! Only because you seem to know so much

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    41
    Let me quote Spencer Dale (BoE chief economist) on the UK recession:

    “If the handbrake on your car is stuck, putting your foot further and further down on the accelerator won’t get you very far before the car starts to overheat,”

    On the global impact of the Chinese economy, just sit down and watch :)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    @42

    I'm watching, and it's almost as funny as watching Argentina squander it's minutes on the Earth. It's economy is slowing, and debt is growning much like most of the rest of the world; as much as they believe they are all mighty and powerful, they are heavily dependent on everyone else buying their cheap and nasty tat. Not to mention all the controversys that are coming out of the wood work suggesting that China could well be in the stum more than they let on. Their rail network is a prime example of that. Not that you would know what that is; I guess that you don't even know what a train looks like these days since they are always on strike!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    43
    That is your main problem, you guess...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    @44 You DO know what a train looks like?! Woaw, golden star on the forehead for you. Be careful not to drowl all over it otherwise it will loose it's stick.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    But youre still just quoting and illustrating no argumentor real understanding! Which luxury brands make the most money in china? Which part of the fashion industry has buckled in china? Which industrial area is most likley to expand in the next 10 years? How much retail space will be ready by 2015, and what what is the forcast for retail leasing in the same period? Which 5 main chinese cities are actually bankrupt yet still supported by the government? How many airlines in china are privatley owned? How is the media contolled? How many business related ripts are there in guangzhou yearly (average)?

    For the record i have been living in china for 10 years and you no nothing about china!“the art of war”..... a little hint for you!

    Now, my little monkey stop quoting, do some research amd give some answers

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    ;)

    (only so you can post more stupidities for me to laugh, Huntsman...)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    @47 it's called sarcasm and whit Guzz, the lowest forms of humour; nothing less than what you and your RG friends deserve.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    China China China, you talk like it is a paradise and the saviour of South America.

    It's banks are bankrupt, huge industries are overstocked but refuse to layoff and 100s of millions are still destitute! The population is old and too many boys so they can't reproduce. It is a mess and they don't know how to fix it.

    it just like everyone talking about Japan in the 80s and Russia in the 90 sand then India/Brazil in 00. All media hype with nothing backing them up. Basically they were all overheated economies that have now faltered.

    China's meager reserves won't feed the population for very long once civil unrest sets it. You can't keep paying people to make goods no one is buying for very long and they've been doing it for 2-3 yrs now!

    I think the new Chinese leadership is going to have a hard time figuring out how to keep this all afloat.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    @49 good post, you just brought back some nasty images of baby girls thrown in the gutter that I saw back in the days of A Level Geography. Cringe at the thought; thats what happens in a male dominated culture though that has restrictions put in place (I'm male by the way, not some woman's rights nutter about to preach the gospel to you all).

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    48
    That is sarcasm??? Whit?
    No, friend, sarcasm is what your parents professed when having you, and whit is what they lacked doing it...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    @51 elaborate please. I don't get it... your IQ is too low to conseive a properly put together sentence, I'm operating here with an IQ of 142... How does sarcasm get involved when they conceived me if only to spite themselves... What does whit have to do with my parents doing the rumpy pumpy?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    52
    IQ of 142 what? Roadkills?
    “I don't get it...”
    I bet that happens a lot... :)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    Speaking of Mensa......The lovely Cristina has been made an honoury member of that other institution that measures IQ called ' Densa '

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    GuZz you are the best today! You have managed to prove yourself as an ignorant idiot seven fold! Wheres you wisdom on china please or are you still fumbling through google? Quickly please! Or ignore me and illustrate ure one bifocal vision again

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    @53 You really are incapable of explaining what you mean aren't you. You just thought of it spur of the moment and just punched it into the keyboard (as a monkey would) hoping it would be a funny quip without really thinking about what it actually means... which is of course nothing except your in-ability to master the English language (and before you start, I speak French and German).

    Dummkopf

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Oooooh ooooohh ooh! I wanna be like you ooo ooo oooh!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    @57 LOL! You see it's troooo ooo oooh! Lol.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    56
    Then you should try in one of those languages, because in english, you make no sense...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    An ape like me hehe, can learn to be hehe just like you hoo hoo!
    Sogimme me a clue brit cub!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    You idiots, she's an Argentinian whore selling ass to Somalis in Denmark

    then again, that's the only thing an argentinian woman is worth of...

    shitty people, shitty country

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    @59 Guzz, I'm sure that to the English speaking world I make sense, it's just you, who have not yet made it to dizzying heights of being a member of that world who does not understand and for whom it does not make sense. Google Translate just won't meet the requirements you need to have an intellegent conversation with someone. Even that app on the iPhone where you can get someone to say something and it translates won't do it. Of course though, you won't have any iPhones in Argentia. Luxury items won't do in your economic climate (and don't let that come across as ignorance to all the impoverished people of the world; I was brought up under the poverty line - I worked for all I have and worked bloody hard, and I do what I can to help those who need it - I'm just being ignorant towards you).

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Bit harsh...... But Guzz, if true how much do you charge? Piece of eight or would that be in peso now?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    63@ she can make hundreds of euros in a day easily in Denmark. More than she could earn as a rocket scientist in Argentina..

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    62
    now it's my fault you are an ignorant...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    I know many many danes! Theyre alright and surley not tjat deaperate... Anyway she must have her down now so leave her to eat

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    “Ignorant” is an adjective not a noun.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    66@ i was referring to the vast Somali-population in Denmark,,sure they'll want a piece of white christian ass..

    and older not-so-happily married men,,i know that shit happens.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Guzz please stop making yourself look stupid! Or do u like it? I will give you u one compliment and that is that u are as stubborn as a mule in repeatedly looking stupid! Congratulations! By the way are u saving in euros or peso? Or just spending all your hard (pun) earned cash on surgery?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    @65 I don't think I'm an ignorant person Guzz, and it's certainly not your fault if I am too blind to see that I am an ignorant person. However I am ignorant towards you, simply because of your attempts to offend my parents and your inability to explain yourself. Ergo I don't like you, and I will treat you with contempt.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    67
    you are right, missed out on “brit”, wanted to avoid redundancy...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brit abroad

    Ditto

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    I know Argentinian women are lazy and incompetent, since they don't study and they act like daddy's little girls till their 60's

    cause they are lazy, they don't work in McDonalds, that's for the Bolivians yousee, taking some private clients every now and then to their neat student flat, they can easily gain hundreds of euros a day..

    ..which would take months in Argentina

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    A lot of RG models (hookers) are getting busted while traveling as mules for the drug lords.

    Seems like more and more every month...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    @61

    “then again, that's the only thing an argentinian woman is worth of”

    we'll have less of that. If there is one area where the Argentineans beat us hands down then it's their ladies. Delightful things, and a good laugh too...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    75@you're opinion is kinda biased, you said you're mother is Argentinian

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    49# yankeeboy-China-
    Advice is stop reading so much and spend time digesting information.Then sort it and select suitable info for your preconceived opinion and you will find that you are always correct.That is until you look at the whole story.
    China producing what can't be sold.Is that wholly true or not.
    China's population imbalance is detrimental to it ability to function efficiently,true or not
    China's population is too old,true or not.
    USA can't produce because it can't sell its product
    USA population imbalance too many illegals and native Americans.
    USA population too old pension payment and healthcare costs are too high and are a drain on efficient labour costs.
    What do think.
    Not all good in the USA.Listen to the presidential election rhetoric.
    Don't put your head down,look up and listen more.Stats tell a story only.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    Errr, no, my mother-in-law. If anything it is the blokes in Argentina who are a bunch of useless layabouts. All the women I know are bright, ambitious and hard working. The blokes I know are the ones who only want to work in the 'right' job because they feel that other ones are below themyet, at the same time as being unemployed, want to spend their wives/girlfriends cash as if it was their own...they are a little like English women in that respect...want something for nothing...

    Yes there are obviously girls who will be with a guy just for cash but I haven't seen it amongst the middle class Argentinean women, they just usually complain about how useless their men folk are...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    78@“women I know are bright, ambitious and hard working” ...you don't know what you're talking about, LOL..besides it's still biased: ' mother-in-law'

    in Argentina women act like little girls and start crying in working environment if something goes wrong, and if they are friends to the male-boss, they dont' have work at all, they're everything but professional

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @3 Vultures only go for carrion. The state of argieland!
    @6 Don't need to cry. Britain on its way out of recession. The UK now has the strongest economy in Europe. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223343/UK-economy-best-Europe-following-results-lead-way-2015.html And low inflation as well - 2.2% http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223343/UK-economy-best-Europe-following-results-lead-way-2015.html Isn't that good?
    @10 Are you going to rush “home” to enjoy it?
    @15 Did you notice the dateline? 24 May 2011. It's all in the detail, isn't it? Doing good? In your dreams! Or is that nightmares?
    @17 Why do you care about argieland? Not your country is it? And have you not fled to Denmark? Is your story coming apart?
    Let's pick up on an article from the Miami Herald. It's a bit old (June 2012), but not as old as the one your desperation found (May 2011). http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223343/UK-economy-best-Europe-following-results-lead-way-2015.html And for all those that like a laugh, the comments feature our own, our very own, alex vargas annoying yet more people by posting his drivel. Notice he says how argieland is full of resources. He just doesn't mention that argies don't have a clue. I wonder how he's eating meat in argieland when he's in Canada? Strangely, he doesn't appear to be any more popular in Miami than he is on here. Could it be that he flits from site to site, and country to country, until he gets banned or realises that he is totally hated by the “local” population?
    @65 Poor Guzzle. Are you feeling “victimised”?
    @77 Goody. A new “victim”. Never mind China or the USA, they are not your problem. What about your “home” country? And how far away from it do you reside? Curiously, this article is about argieland's economy. Is this a case of “Don't look at me. Look over there.” Diversion. And INDEC stats don't tell a story, they tell lies!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • We got your Fragata

    The entire world knows that Argentina is the sewer (cloaca) of the Americas.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    from what i've seen, all argentinian people are criminals and thieves, its in their nature and culture, its their way of doing things and they are
    even proud of it..just look ate their prez, she represents them perfectly. This is why their country has so many problems, they all have the
    mentality of a criminal..

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Happy birthday to a great policy. Great to see a leader taking tough decisions that annoy the rich rather than further shafting the poor. And what a lovely picture =)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    Wondered why Guzz went all quiet. Must have been a change of shift down at KFC HQ.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I'm amazed you still are part of this discussion, having an IQ of 178 and all...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    There it is.....spoken like a true communist...you hate rich people.....and according to kristina if you do not get goivernment handouts you are rich. So you hate people that are self sufficient also BK.
    Do you know that Warren Buffet...Bill Gates a other billionaires have given away to charity most everything they made? Such aweful men they are.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    142 fella, you see, thats how dumb you are, you can't even use the scroll on a mouse to go up and look at a previous comment to get your facts right.

    The rabbits that I shoot have more common sense and intellegence than you (could actually go for a bunny burger right now, yum yum!). Worse still so do the feral pigeons.

    Sorry BK had to go get you from your lunch break (trying to put the square peg in the round hole again? Dang that things a pain to get in ain't it; try putting the sandwiche down while you do it!) so that you could reply to me and thus make my assumption look like a falasy.

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  • Guzz

    So that's what they are for all the 195 on IQ? To come out with silly personal attacks? If you are going for insults, do it properly...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    @82

    Ok, you're welcome to your point of view. We have obviously been hanging around people of a different educational and class level

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    I'm just taking the perverbial and enjoying the process. As I previously stated in comment number 70 Guzz, I don't like you and I will continue to treat you with contempt. Sorry, you can't read if can you, you need to know how to use the scroll tab on the mouse.

    You have nothing to come back at me with other than my level of intellegence and each time you do you make yourself seem less intellegent. Shovel and a spade help you in your endevour to personally insult me?

    If you're not happy you can always report me to a mod end of the day and I will maybe get an email asking me to let you abuse me or maybe I will get ban from commenting. But then, I suppose you would have to report nearly every single person who has commented on this page, possibly the Falklands/RG sections of the website.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    I don't think “dumb” is enough reason to get your posts deleted...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    82@ It's not a point of view, i'm talking about the whole Argentinian society, all classes. What do you, are you a trash collector or something?

    They're all criminals, cheaters and thieves. It's a Fact, look what's happening to 'em, do i need more proof?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Hook
    I'm sorry if your wife cheated on you with an Argentine, but to be fair, it's not Argentinas fault...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #75 “that. If there is one area where the Argentineans beat us hands down then it's their ladies. Delightful things, and a good laugh too”

    Quite right, and the lovely and charismatic Cristina is the greatest example of that =)

    #86 They actually want to pay more in tax, so no I wouldn't say they were awful men, unlike Mitt Romney...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    93@ shut up Puta...you have already have confirmed you are a prostitute.

    argentinian men are 75% gays, they're no threat, what molested me most in Argentina, were the Argentinian men trying to touch me all the time

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    You cheated on your wife with an Argentine male? That's a whole other matter... Malcojido?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    96@You talk exactly like a whore...not in every culture men want to experiment like the argies...thay are 75% either gay or bisexuals

    ..now go and take some more Somali cock in ya ass, Puta

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Hook I really am not thrilled about being in the position of supporting Argentines, but the statement:

    “They're all criminals, cheaters and thieves. It's a Fact, look what's happening to 'em, do i need more proof?”

    Is either based on absolute ignorance by never having been to Argentina, or just prejudical hatred or a sad old man. My aim is not insolence, but when you cast such a large net, you snare even to least sought after species.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    98@unfortunetly it's based on numerous repetitive reiterative experiences...all over again, the same stuff

    lot of statistical proof from a large sample

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    That is a shame and I must be fortunate that my experiences are predominately the opposite.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    100@ you're opinion is biased too, you said you have Argentinian wife..

    i'd be saying the same thing as you and defending my gf's country in your position, it's understandable

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    99
    This is getting worse and worse... multiple Argentine males? No wonder you hate them...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I'm not an Argentine Guzz....I am sure you know that by now.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Seriously, i'm sure there is a hotline for victims like you....

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Hmm - a thread of comments to be proud of........or maybe not.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    105@ Puta, your clients are waiting

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Hook
    I never meant to reopen old wounds, but you really need to get those issues sorted...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    106@ the reason nro.1 i'm pissed with argies, if because of business deals etc. You can't trust them.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    Dollar clamp ? What dollar clamp? By mercopress definition there is also a US dollar clam in Canada because I can't buy my groceries in US dollars, I wonder why mercopress never reports on Canadian dollar clamp in all this years of this horrible practice. Lol and I won't even mention the fact I can't use pesos in neither Canada nor USA, Ho is the old do as I say not as I do practice from mr KKK again, Move along people, move along there is nothing to see here, just the same old English bullying of Argentina's right to self determination. We are used to live under threats and illegal occupation by Brits but we hope soon to have a nuclear defence program 100% made in Argentina.
    We love you CFK! keep up the good work! Don't take any outsider seriously as you can read here none of them mean well. We support CFK from all around the world.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    80# Conker
    When you are a moderator you can control posts.Until then you are just another poster like me.Its your colonial brain that is influencing you.Your just one of the crowd Mr Mitty
    What kind of an imbecile would say that the UK is coming out of recession based on one set of figures.The same kind of idiot who suggests that a country's economy is collapsing because one years figures predict a dip in GDP.
    Hopefully the UK and Europe are coming out of recession as they and the USA are dragging down the world economy but Argentina is paying off its debts and re- orientating its economy.
    The UK and others have still to solve their economic problems or are they expecting to rob in SA and Africa and Asia indefinitely.Is their more confidence in the ability to fund pensions in the UK now,Conker?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Spics? Pedazo de gringo atorrante...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    @92 Hook

    Yup, and every British person is a priate. In fact, i have a small sailing boat which I have moored off the coast of Corwall just so that I can head out, harass the shipping channels, return triumphant to my treasure cove with my booty, speak to my parrot and drink my grog.

    Twat

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  • Idlehands

    114 Welsh Wizard - I didn't realise you were one of those annoying peasants that always get right of way because you couldn't afford an engine. Begone and get outta my way!!!!!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    No, just deeply old school dear boy...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Poppy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aibLrBu2hoA

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    V8s are what you want - not sails.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Sorry buds.,.....not really a Utube guy....more into books.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    Oh dear - the trolls have taken over the madhouse.

    We now have SA trolls pretending to be British - one of them even sounds like sussie

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Argentina could lose 20 percent of its projected corn crop and 10 percent of its soy this season because of violent storms that have lashed the
    Pampas farm belt over the last three months, a local expert said
    on Tuesday.

    Hmm, moldy wheat and poor crops 2 years in a row. No wonder they announced CFk's blood pressure was elevated...
    hahahhaa

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  • Pirat-Hunter

    #107 is puta your moms name?
    #112 shhhh be werry , werry ' quiet am hunting for wabbits.
    #114 we know.
    #120 we feel the same about English people commenting on Argentina's news headlines, then again we care as much for your opinion as the English people care for ours “NOT”...
    We love You CFK! Keep up the good work. We are With you 100%.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Poppy

    They dress as tourists
    And travel the world
    the Americans
    In organized trip
    With romance included
    All pre-paid
    By Americans

    If there is something you admire
    Wherever you go
    It is the elegance
    of the Americans
    With typical attire
    Mingling with people
    And no one notices
    They are Americans

    They always buy
    Valuable old things
    recently aged
    for Americans
    And then at home
    They receive friendships
    Praising the good taste
    of the Americans

    And in nightclubs
    They feel inspired
    the Americans
    It is very common to find them
    Dancing tirelessly
    Wasting the grace
    of the Americans

    Well my friends
    Enough for now
    I told you What I could
    of the Americans
    And if you see them...
    If you see them give them my respectful greetings
    ...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    #120 The la campora troll pretend to be British, Americans....even Africans.....suzzie and TTT (truth telling troll) are forever changing there identities. I think it has to do with Fatsimo the Fat Fucking Kirchner anally raping the prepuberty boys at camp. It really takes it's toll on them.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @83 She looks as though she's just an explosive fart.
    @85 That's rich, coming from someone with an IQ of 30. Not even enough brain to look back at Huntsman's comment.
    @93 Still down at “brainless” level, Guzzle?
    @94 “the lovely and charismatic Cristina”. I've figured it out. You're blind!
    @95 How can 75% of argie males be queer? It would mean that 25% go without!
    @98 I have to take issue with your comment. Remember this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xqwNsmzCbM And yet NONE of those people were at fault. Not one of them supported the illegal invasion and occupation of the Falklands. And that is not the only video! As for visiting argieland, who would want to? If I really HAD to go, I'd want to take 22 SAS with me!
    @102 It's the way argie males do it. Remember?
    @110 A clam is a crustacean. Or seafood. Argieland has no “right” to self-determination. An implanted population has no right to self-determination. Remember? A colony has no right to self-determination. Remember? And what is argieland? Apart from a cesspit. It's a rebel Spanish colony. By definition, an implanted population. Go for the nuclear defence program. But go “home” first. Go by sea. Drown. Whoops, did I say that out loud? Well, get a haircut, a shave and a wash anyway!
    @111 You missed a point. Being British, “I” can do whatever “I” like. You, being argie, can only do what you're allowed. As you are beginning to find out. Already you can't borrow money. Soon, you won't be able to go to sea. Can you take a train, successfully? If you go into the streets, do you have to swim? No interest in SA. Home of thieves, murderers, paedos and queers. My pension is fine, thanks!
    @114 “every British person is a priate”. Really? Is that your version of “primate”? Go back and look at the video link I posted. Are those people supporting a criminal act? Is that criminal act thieving? Were they not cheating by ignoring a UNSC resolution? Do they not cheat now by saying it wasn't them? Think about it!

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  • Pirat-Hunter

    Jajjajaj #123 Pierto is a good musician. Look for a cubam band “Los aldeanos” in YouTube. I think music is a good tool to bring social and cultural change. I found a later version of the song “Los Americanos” I am sure you'll like it, it plays right into the kind you find trolling this message threads.
    http://m.youtube.com/?reload=3&rdm=mcetap40r#/watch?v=aibLrBu2hoA
    http://m.youtube.com/?reload=3&rdm=mcetap40r#/watch?v=aibLrBu2hoA

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    125# Conker.
    I suspect you were trying to upset someone,by repeating how it used to be.But it's not anymore.I think you failed and now you will have to try another way.Cannot wait to see how. Tch tch poor boy.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 07:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Guzz
    you do well to defend your corner, when most of your fellows keep quiet,

    still,
    may we ask simply,

    1, has it worked,
    2, has it failed,
    your country,
    your answer please.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Guzz- I am in the UK and I am Brit and I do trade in dollars. I also trade in Pounds Sterling, Euros and Hong Kong dollars. I occasionally trade in Yuan and Singapore Dollars.

    I have a GBP account, a USD account and a Euro account.

    I can do all of this with no restrictions and my economic liberty is very much appreciated.

    Surely in a democracy Argentines should be able to buy, sell and trade in any currency they wish? That is unless Argentina is not a full democracy?

    Economic liberty is the foundation of personal freedom.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    129
    What would you say if the day came when you couldn't use pounds sterlings to buy a house in your own country?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    never happen.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    130 Guzz

    What's the matter Guzz?

    Are you not going to answer briton's question at 128?

    He asked a simple question, should be no problem for you. After all “You know everything” don't you Guzz?

    So why don't you just answer the question?

    I know you know all the answers......... Is it the questions that are giving you the trouble?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    132
    I'm not sure what he is talking about, pardon me...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    #129 in Argentina you can do the same. Except that in Argentina the exchange fee is payed to the state not the bank, if you like it the way is done in UK great stay in UK and keep your comments of Argentina to yourself.
    #130 the English people only wishes others to do that which the English won't do. Don't dear talk to them about justice, they wouldn't know what that is.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    simple enough question,

    did her policy work.
    yes or no.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    If you are asking me if the pesification works, I'd say no doubt. If the world accepts it, well, lets wait and see...

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Guzz, You can use pesos to buy property it is not illegal BUT sellers won't accept them because there is a wide exchange rate from $4.60-7 buyers want to use 4.6 an dhe seller want $7.
    EVERYONE knows there is a MASSIVE devaluation happening shortly. So why take peso now at 7 when it could be 10-14 by December?
    Until and unless the Peso is stabilized it will never work.
    You will be dead before that ever happens.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    137
    All I hear is you predicting misery over Arg, and I can't help myself from thinking... How on earth did you miss Sandy, and why the heck don't you use your abilities for the good of your own people???

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton shut up

    @135
    Shut up stupid child! mind your UK!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Even I can't predict the weather! I wish I could be as accurate with weather as I am with Argentina's fate.
    But I do see the weather isn't too good in the Pampas though, wet wet wet
    Lower Soy crops
    Lower Corn crops
    Moldy Wheat

    I think the Barley is doing well though
    Barley para todos

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Guzz - I wouldn't give two hoots about using another currency to purchase UK property.Why should I? These things are dictated by the market.

    It also appears most Argentines don't care either (in fact they prefer the dollar to the Argie peso). It is only their authoritarian leader that cares as it makes her look bad (heaven forbid).

    I suppose you approve of her policy of limiting the freedom of Argentines? I guess you therefore disapprove of democracy?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    141
    “I wouldn't give two hoots about using another currency to purchase UK property.Why should I?”

    Why would the Arg have to ask you lot for permission to do the same as you? Why do you even care?? Don't you have your own economy to worry about, or are you too busy fillimg Singer's pockets? First things first, right?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    I talked to my Arg-American roomie of yore's partner last night. I told him I now know where Argentina is on a map! :)

    First thing he said.. with compassion, “Isn't it horrible?”

    Me: “Huh???”
    Most So Californians have visited TJ; Arg is cleaner, refined, more beautiful, TONS nicer working standards...

    He was surprised I didn't seem to know what he was talking about. He clarified, “Horrible DOWN THERE. It's.. just..I feel for the people, you know? They can't leave the country, it's something about money.”

    I reassured him Argentines were --O--K---! hahaha :)

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Guzz - If you cannot deal with my comment then admit it rather than post inaccuracies.

    I mentioned the fact that Argies themselves prefer to trade in dollars rather than pesos. When did I suggest they needed our permission? Please point this out.

    It is up to them, but unfortunately it isn't is it? Their economic freedom is being repressed by a specific policy of their own president's doing.

    I suppose you agree with governments interfering with the economic freedom of it's own citizens and the clear assault on democratic freedoms this presents?

    Economic cycles are economic cycles. We cannot largely influence then but can adapt to them. Recessions are good as any Muppet can make money in a growth period. Recession kills off the weak business and in the long term strengthens business governance.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yuleno

    Yankeeboy you have been producing Argentina's failure incessantly all year.Dont you know that the USA and Europe are showing signs of recovery and that the time for Argentina to manifest what you predict is evaporating.Have you no other scenario for the world economy.Why are you such a pessimist,are your financial dealings not telling you anything.You are telling me you don't know much.I hope your mother is on hand.
    Beef.
    Does the euro circulate in the UK.Why should the dollar circulate outside the USA.Not as a right of the dollar but as a decision of the gvt to support its use.
    As you know beef,in the undemocratic USA you need to change your pounds to dollars,they won't take your precious pound,they'd take euros first.Britain was and is no more.Just a banana monarchy.Bad Isnt it.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton the arse

    @125 Conqueror
    tonight you can fuck me!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Yul, Unfortunately for the Argentinians I am more right than wrong. Not even the best diviner in the world is 100%accurate. If I was I would be a Billionaire unfortunately I am not.

    You are assured:

    Devaluation/Hyperinflation/Depression

    coming shortly

    Barely para todos

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Yuleno - The Euro does circulate in the UK and a number of shops accept (especially in London) it for payment. Your point is?

    The dollar has been circulation in Argentina by the consent of the market and Argentine citizens. Yet the Argie government feel necessary to stop it's own citizens buying dollars and therefore doing what they wish with their own wealth; a policy consistent with a repressive regime.

    I think you meant Constitutional Monarchy and Full Democracy.

    Can any Argie please explain why it is a good idea to have your own economic freedom restricted by your government? Do you like being kept poor?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    144
    And who are you to tell what the Argentines wants? Open up for the comments in spanish MP and see for yourself what SA wants, starting with British troops out of SA.
    Do you think the Argentines voted for CFK because they wanted you to tell them what they want?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    guzz your slipping you haven't mention killing children yet :o).
    PS. There's no British troops in SA, there's some in a British overseas territory though.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    150
    Te vas a la reputisima madre que te recontramil pario, hijo de siete mil putas.
    Told you I was done with you, scum. I don't have any interest in having a dialogue with a defender of murderers of children. Now begone!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @151 oh dear are you upset?, if yes good, if no I'll try harder next time. Now begone my little Muslim ships cat

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    You don't upset me, scum. You merely reaffirm my thoughts about you lot, child abusing murderers... Go show your kids some love, pathetic scum. Make them like you!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    my son loves me and his Mum in fact he's on HMS Edinburgh at the moment cruising down to the South Atlantic, funny old thing eh?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Guzz, Is your boyfriend Muslim? I have never seen so much hate and jealousy coming from a non-muslim.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @156 again guzz posts total crap bless him. Guzz leave your cushy life in Northern Europe (I can't decide where yet as you keep moving) and do something about it.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    I must have been roofied cause I don't remember a thing!

    Of course you didn't answer my question and it was serious.

    You are jealous and hateful of UK and USA just like The Muslims. There must be a reason. Have you converted? Is your boyfriend a Muslim?
    I have never met any SA that hates the UK and USA so much! Most everyone I met begged me to get them a job so they can move to the USA. So i really don't get where this is coming from and why.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    158
    Lets say USA didn't make many friends when they sent Dan Mitrione to torture our people. Schools of America didn't help either. In fact, the whole Plan Condor was not intended to befriend us, now was it?

    Did you ever apologize even?

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Guzz - The market tells us what Argies want. If Argies didn't want to trade in USD and make real estate purchases in USD then why do the government feel the need to force it?

    The market for the use of the USD in Argentina has been created by Argentines and with the consent of the Argentine consumer.

    Now, as you cannot even comprehend the very basics of market economics I think that you will simply resort to further insults. After all that is all your mental capacity is capable of.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conorworld

    @ Guzz
    You have a very skewed way of seeing things. Your snarky comments do not create a confidence in your opinion in us here.

    Argentines don't denominate or buy major transactions in pesos because of a severe lack of confidence in the peso as a holder of value. The government of Cristina just exacerbates this opinion. *IF* Cristina's policies were working, there would be a stabilization of inflation and the Peso currency exchange and people would learn to love and trust their currency. Pesification would happen organically. Cristina would be confident in her policies doing that organically.

    But Cristina's policies are not working. It has caused inflation and currency depreciation. Now she is putting a clamp on dollars to force pesification. It is first and foremost a clear indication of the failure of her own policies that she herself puts this clamp in.

    But preventing her people to choose the way they wish to purchase things is also wrong and undemocratic.

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    160
    I've only insulted those who glorifies the murderimg of children, as long as you aren't one of them, I will treat you with due respect. even when I disagree

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @158 don't forget a UK/US hating Muslim that lives in Sweden/Denmark or wherever's popular today. What has an Italian born FBI agent who might have done something in Montevideo got to do with it, unless of course he was killing Muslim women and children with a helicopter, talk about changing the subject, but that's Guzz's only tactic when losing (usually) an arguement. I take it this Dan Mitrione did all this by himself with no help from the Urayguian security forces or anyone else.............yeah right

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • We got your Fragata

    I can't wait until Argentina explodes into civil war. It's coming, broke government, violent groups, La Cámpora gathering arms, violence in the streets and in the football stadiums, hopefully when the roving mobs of killers go around the country, they will go after the people who hold all the money now -- the government!

    Oct 30th, 2012 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    Guzz - if Argies were happy to buy and sell property in pesos then the Argentine housing market would have been unaffected by the forced pesification policy.

    Clearly Argentines want to use USD to buy and sell their bricks and mortar as the collapse in liquidity has been directly caused by this policy.

    Please utilise your best deductive reasoning to counter my argument.

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    165
    It would be because the peso is too weak and unstable, hence the need for the pesification. Noone wants his/her country dominated by foreign currency. The Argentines are no exception.

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    So Argentines want to trade in USD because they see the market weakness in their own currency. That was my point all along. This is done with the consent of the market therefore it is want Argentine consumers want.

    Forcing a population to use an unstable currency does not strengthen it. It meerly redeces monetary liquidity and economic stagnation. The best course of action is to take pesos out of the economy so the perceived and real value of the currency becomes aligned and stable.

    The problem is that the government policy of creating money from nothing has made this impossible and Argentina is on a one way road to another economic disaster.

    Hence Argentines want to use the USD.

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Beef
    No common Argentine even has dollars, transactions are made without people ever seeing the money, you are not making any sense...

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Nearly ALL the Spanish language , native Arg comments on Taringa! and Reddit are pro-dollars and also..they're way not fans of the executive office anymore.
    That's why I like Mercopress, comments, I wanted to get an ide of the culture supporting a pro CFK mindset

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Look, salaries are paid in pesos, food is charged in pesos, national currency is peso... What good does a strong dollar do to the vast majority of the Argentines?
    And why should they ask you for permission to do what the heck they want with their country? They elected CFK for a reason, and they didn't ask you what you thought about their election, did they?

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    British military, in British territory,

    And you have USA military in argentina,

    So why again anti brit,

    Would it not be better to remove the American military from argentine soil.

    Ah
    But you friends with the Americans aint you.

    Wonder why, no argentine military in the USA.

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guzz

    Who is friends with the yanquis? Argentina? Right...

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 12:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    We presume so,
    Its just odd, to have American military on their soil,

    But that’s politics for you..

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ptolemy

    The housing market in Argentina is not “virtually paralyzed ,”... it is paralyzed period. People here are actually de-listing their properties because they do not want to be paid in pesos... and if they were paid in pesos it would be a loosing propasition. Pesofication will not take place until the rampant inflation here is brought under control.... I wait for N8. It should be interesting.

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 02:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    El Gales says: “If there is one area where the Argentineans beat us hands down then it's their ladies.” speak for yourself, i never been in Wales, but i prefer our women over argies 10 - 0

    they're just useless fokking waste of space just like their “men” are,

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conorworld

    Guzz, the problem is that for the vast majority of countries, major transactions - boats, planes etc are all done in hard currencies. This does not have to be Dollars but historically that is the traditional hard currency in Argentina. There are multitudes of hard currencies these days, from the Dollar, to the Euro, Yen, Sterling (the hard currency of choice for my country, Ireland for decades prior to joining the Euro), even Canadian and Australian dollars.

    There are emerging ones too, such as the South Korean won, the Brazil Real is on a slow path that way too and most certainly the Chinese yuan. The interesting aspect is with these new emerging hard currencies. They have created and instilled confidence in the world by the sound economic policies of their countries. They have in the minds of the world and business people (from big, major companies to smaller family ones) developed confidence in using these currencies.

    Argentina has not. Argentina has consistently created a lack of confidence globally in doing business and that is dangerous in this globalized world. CFK's overtly confrontational management of micro and marco economic policies makes people less trusting in the Argentine economy and thus the peso.

    No matter how much CFK thinks she can get away with it in the medium term, she will soon start to need more large international transactions from planes to heavy-machinery etc, especially if she thinks YPF is going to be successful.

    Now would you trust someone coming in to your shop saying they need a piece of machinery saying they will pay with a loan, then take it, fuck it up and then refuse to pay the full price? No. But that is what will happen with CFK's policies and has been historically so with Argentina. That is why pesification will fail because CFK does not keep to her word, lies and manipulates, the manipulation this time being a clamp on dollars

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 06:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @176 - Conorworld

    Agreed. It's the ordinary citizen of Argentina that will suffer from the effects of these insane economic policies.

    Last time it was the Internatinal community that Argentina defaulted on, this time it will be their own people.

    All pesticfication will do is ensure that, when the economy collapses, everyone will be equally poor. With the exception of CFK and her cronies of course.

    In previous uncertain economic times at least the average person could buy dollars for that rainy day on the horizon. Now all they'll have is Peso's, and if the economy collapses, they won't be worth the paper they're printed on, no matter whose picture is on them.

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 07:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hook

    177@ they chose CFK, they support CFK(even now, enough to get re-elected) and even when the support goes down, it's because they finally see it was CFK who destroyed their economy, it's not because of the aggressive talks about invading Falklands or stealing from the Gringos. They all accept that part.

    i laugh to the people who write here like the Argies were some innocent sacred beings and that it's only their evil prez who's to blame, haha...dorks.. you have no clue

    So, i say, let 'em suffer, they deserve it.

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton the arse

    @173
    Argentina is anti-british and anti-american,,,,,accept the facts,,,,,now go to sleep stupid child!

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    What the hell is below Frontier staus......Cave Dwellers?

    http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2012-10/downgrade-could-hasten-argentinas-frontier-departure.aspx?storyid=185817

    http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2012-10/downgrade-could-hasten-argentinas-frontier-departure.aspx?storyid=185817

    Mushrooms para todos !!

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bonita

    @18o Conqueror Captain Poppy
    The Taliban will blow your head off with a home made bomb!

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/115648/bond-prices-sink-risk-spread-grows-after-sp-downgrade

    And only low blood pressure. Care to guess what the physcian prescribed? A rusty razor with an order for “elbow to wrist” incision.

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton the arse

    @conqueror/captain poppy
    the taliban will blow your head off!

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    sussie the uneducated child , she never learns,

    threats insults childish behavour,
    sticks and stones sussie,, sticks and stones,..

    Oct 31st, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    It's not very cool that a woman endorses an organization which wishes it could prohibit education to a gender and wants to challenge their safety.

    Nov 04th, 2012 - 06:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #185 Explain? And why have you dug this old thread up =)

    Nov 04th, 2012 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @186 Bitter Kirchnerist;

    ”#185 Explain? And why have you dug this old thread up =)“

    Yes, BK, that's really your specialty, dropping ”post-bombs” on defunct threads...

    AYAYAY - don't listen to him, BK, gets paid by the post - however meaningless or sycophantic it is.

    Nov 05th, 2012 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Hi Troy, thx
    Hi BK, referring to @181

    -Happy evening-

    Nov 06th, 2012 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    I really hope the peso continues the slide. I want as much bang from my buck when I send my money in argentina at the year end......lol. Hoping for 5.50

    Nov 06th, 2012 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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