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International unions’ group calls for a speedy resolution of the Argentina/Ghana impasse
The Vice President of International Transport Workers’ Federation (ITF), has called for a timely resolution of the stalemate leading to the seizure of the Argentina Naval frigate ARA Libertad in Ghana. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThey just want it released, Period!
Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Singer should go and claim “his” ship (according to him) himself. I'm sure they would let him on board :)
Nov 12th, 2012 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 02 Guzz (#) I agree. Unfortunately, I think that there will by be fireworks as a result of this illegal act by Ghana. If any harm comes to this ship and it's crew, the Argentine people will want justice done and Ghana to be made to pay dearly. I Would think that sending a sub to sink a few of their fishing boats and mining their harbor would be a good starting point. Then, send Paul Singer the film from the periscope.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0A night raid against their powerplant would also be nice and get the Ghanan judge the world press coverage they were seeking.
Don't take it out on Ghana mate, as don't know this for a fact, but I could bet my right arm that Ghana is a former UK colony and the perfect idiot for this farce...
Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lol @ ProRG, only Argentina can turn this into a armed conflict and I'm sure that the allied forces i.e. Britain and America will be only too happy to fend off any attempts at such actions from Argentina's ancient, rusty fleet of sub although most likely they would break down/give up before even getting to African waters.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has zero ability to threaten anyone else anyway and its pure fantasy to say Ghana will pay dearly.
@ 3 ProRG_American
Nov 12th, 2012 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I Would think that sending a sub”
Boyo, you totally made my day! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
The sub would break down, just like the Argentine corvettes ARA Spiro and ARA Espora broke down, then it would have to enter Ghanaian port for repairs, telling Ghana that they need repairs so they can attack, and ask for more repairs to return after the attack.
Give me a break, those sailors pulled small arms on unarmed people. when It comes times to actually take the ship, the ship will be taken.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for sending a sub, only the village idiot would make such a suggestion. For starters, competent navies would NEVER allow at vessels seized. If it did happen, a task force would be steaming at flank speed and within no time be off the coast of the hot spot. That task force would have sizable AIRPOWER. That is how competent navies would handle it. Not send one corvette that breaks down enroute, only to find itself SEIZED!
There is no illegal act by Ghana. The only country that persistently violates the rule-of-law is Argentina.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Again Argentina tries to blame the UK for it's own problems caused by itself, just grow up.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0On a side note, I find it interesting the the BA Herald says the the UK's Unite Union supports the Libertad and it's crew but the only statement by Unite that I can find has been made by the ginger nut Castro. Please provide links to the original statement, if it isn't a complete fabrication, that is.
A speedy end to this dispute is really easy.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina PAY your debts! Then all the problems surrounding this issue will disappear.
@3 - ProAG
You would send a sub (what subs do Argentina have that could actually traverse the Atlantic?) and sink fishing vessels!
Well that'll go down well, won't it? Attacking and murdering unarmed civilians - which appears to be all your armed forces could take on.
On the positive side, the UK can send anti-submarine warfare vessels to Ghana's defense (what with it being a commonwealth country and all), as could South Africa and Nigeria - that equals end of sub, and any survivors would be put on trial for crimes against humanity.
Do you really believe that the people of Africa are just going to stand by and be bullied by an impotent nothing country like Argentina?
Get real.
The Ghanaian navy is a much more powerful force, Argentina would be out of its depth.... literally.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 12:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ghana is often seen as a model for political and economic reform in Africa. Their legal system works effectively without interference from government.
Argentina’s solution: - start negotiating with your debtors.... simples :)
to all the argie ones here (who meanwhile feel ashamed to be argies and pretend to be something different, Guzz = Uruguay, Pro_RG = USA, KN = even British!).
Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just admit it... this cannot be topped anymore, an african 3rd world nation ridicules your beloved mafiosi nation. I can fully understand you guys pretend to be from the States, Uruguay or even UK!
Actually I feel sorry for the sailors. Their government keeps screwing their military with insipid orders.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 012
Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor
As for this mess, the Ghanese brought everything in order to re-dock the ship, with no legal documents in order. True they had a piece of paper, but the decision had been appealed and they knew this. Still they show up with cranes. Well, Argentina has every right to protect her sovereignity (something you wondered why she didn't do when they seizured the ship in the 1st place), and until they can't come up with some paperwork that is in order, they just have to stay the hell away from the ship.
Which would mean another week of lost incomes for the port. If Argentina doesn't appeal again...
As for the arms, well, firearms is a language you lot and your allies talk fluently, and a perfect method to avoid misunderstandings...
#13 Argentina always screws their military. assface will screw them one to many times and they just might start siding with the protestors.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@14
Nov 12th, 2012 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“... with no legal documents in order,..”
I believe it is only port authority problem at this time, as they only want to move the ship, not seize it. And, yes, they (the ship,) should have done something right away instead of waiting for insipid orders.
”On the positive side, the UK can send anti-submarine warfare vessels to Ghana's defense (what with it being a commonwealth country and all)”
Nov 12th, 2012 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are joking aren't you? Why even bother.
Let them send there entire navy, watch it all break down on route and dock for repairs in Ghana. Will be hilarious.
Those of us who can actually read the article, as opposed to those who only see what they want it to say will have noticed that the unions' group has called for a speedy resolution (i.e. it's an embarrasing problem and please could it (the problem, not necessarily the ship) go away sooner rather than later).
Nov 12th, 2012 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those of us who see what they want to will no doubt see this as an overwhelming vote of support for Argentina, despite it being nothing of the sort.
I think Argentina should demand 20.000.000.00 U$ service charge from Ghana courts representing the vultures arguing that moving a massive ship it a lot more dangerous and labour intensive then willingly purchasing troubled bonds, It all comes with the territory. Let's never forget that there is more then one way to skin a cat and where there is will there will be a way. Poor CFK having to face what Argentine corrupt men created decades ago, I don't care what anyone says this woman has ovaries the size of a bulls balls.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Videla, galtiery, menem, duhalde, macri and every other Argentine man can't be trusted , Argentina's history can show us a lot regarding this matter.
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-globalizer-who-came-in-from-the-cold/
If he does have ovaries that big, perhaps they're cancerous, she should get them checked.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 I'm sure Argentina already owes $20M that in dock fees by now mr Pirat-Hunter. forgot about that, didn't you?
Nov 12th, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And there is nothing poor about CFK with $80+ million US dollars that she accumulated by stealing public funds and land.
I hope the people of Argentina catch up with het in future and get justice soon.
#21 pirate hunter is a Candain, ignore his extremist/irrational views. He actually thinks argrentina can build a nuclear missle.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unfortunately until the military acts, she, cuntina kirchner will remain a criminal at large.
@22 guessing by the millions who demonstrated the other day that won't be long. This of course will have the benefit of putting the Falklands nonsense off the agenda for 50+ years...
Nov 12th, 2012 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@1,2,3,4 Well, you know how much. US$20 million for NML and whatever the bill is for the Tema port authority. Surely CFK has that much in her handbag (ready for the quick getaway). But I see that someone is recommending the standard argie unprovoked, undeclared cowardly action. Has argieland actually got any submarines that could make the trip? And another thought. The REAL Americans would probably take a dim view. And the United States Air Force has a base on Ascension Island. Supposedly argie subs can manage 22-25 knots. Aircraft go a little quicker. And the USA has SOSUS, IUSS and SURTASS. All for the purpose of tracking subs. Data shared with the UK.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 No, alex. The one thing you don't do is think. I'm sure that the Tema port authority is quite capable of moving any size vessel. What would they do if a cruise liner had complete engine failure? They'd MOVE it. That little boat will be no problem.
But I do wonder what this has to do with the ITF. It's not as though this hulk is a cargo vessel. It's an OBSTRUCTION! I suppose the Ghanaians could just blow it up!
#24 you are overthinging the scenario.....first off, if RG were to deploy a submarine, they don;t have enough diesel to make the passage........lol
Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the new soldiers make $130 a month?
Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0jejeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ayayay, where does a new soilder make $130 a month? RG?
Nov 12th, 2012 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guzz,
Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When this boat was seized weren’t you saying it was just a luxury toy for the children of the rich and you didn’t care if it was recovered? Or was that Think?
Anyway, I hope the RG Navy gets their boat back, it represents too nice a tradition to be lost in this way. I do however hope that the incident hastens the end of CFK. That would be the win-win situation.
The right-wing unions are asking Argentina to work it out? ;)
Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#29 Many militaries are steep in tradition. Our navy has commsissioned as an active duty vessel the USS Constitution that defeated the British in every sea battle in the war of 1812. If the Argentine Navy wantes wants it back.....I suggest they discuss matters with the Army and Border Guards and rid Argentina of the kirchner plague.
Nov 12th, 2012 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28 (& 3, interesting history) I was wrong, thinking of Greece. O.o
Nov 12th, 2012 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 03,400 pesos in Argentina I think?
Confusing because they had a pay cut and then were promised a raise. $618, at light blue.
I just went through the Mercopress archives for the information using keyword “strike”, looking for the Coast Guard incident. Hahaha, the word strike is VERY POPULAR!
Mr Mensah
Nov 13th, 2012 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Said both Ghana and Argentina are affiliated to the ITF,
she is a member of the UN but it doesn’t stop her breaking and ignoring the rules, when it suits them..
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This will go a long way to deepen and strengthen the relations among our two countries at various levels.
In other words, please don’t make us humiliate ourselves Again..please.
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@31 Pity about the USS Chesapeake and President!
Nov 14th, 2012 - 07:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 032 Their wage is in there somewhere. Was not very high, not that our military makes that much better unless you are an officer.
Nov 14th, 2012 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mensah sounds like a Ghanaian name, and he seems to be backing Argentina because of his working class perspective =)
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