Two main opposition umbrella trade unions and other organizations protesting Argentina's economic policies paralyzed the country on Tuesday in the first general strike since President Cristina Fernandez took office five years ago. Read full article
My god the Sun criticised something.But it wasn't the role of the police in the miners strike,Wapping,hillsborough or the Millie dowler incident.Some creditability the Sun has.
And the don't apologise do they.
Are they connected to Clarin,um?
Yuleno, now, with the rich, middleclass and union workers against Anusmouth Kirchner, who exactly is lefty to support her? I have been told over and over that the poor in Argentina is very small?
From the live news reports from Argentina that I was able to see yesterday it seems as if this strike was widely unpopular. If people had a chance to go to work, they did. The strike was just a huge inconvenience to them and made their feelings agains the strike be known. Others did not go to work because of the stoppage by transport services due to concerns for the safety of their workers that were threatened by gun slinging thugs. Some businesses opened and then were forced to close by further armed thugery by the Moyano storm troopers.
Cristina was right, this was not a strike but an affront to working people.
All a show by Moyano who can't live without getting his ass kissed by the government.
Cristina will survive this and many more attempts by to destabilize her position. Aquaintences tell me, that if there were an election today, she still will win.
being an American that has never been to Argentina, the news on TV is government run. Don't believe what you think is the truth.
AND
Suzzie go back in your hole.
Just wait until the new protests and demonstration that are in the works!!!!!!!!!!
They will never forget these and cannot deny the news ones in the works to remove asslips kirchner.
@10 Sorry? Can we see the pictures of the workers fighting to get through to their places of work? How about pictures of the workers remonstrating with the pickets? Unfortunately, we got to read the party line before you posted. CFK even had the gall to claim that SHE was a worker. Flying around the world, pointlessly, so that she can look for her future palace whilst spending tens of thousands of dollars (dollars that her people aren't allowed to buy) of clothes, shoes, handbags is hardly likely to make the people see her as a worker. But then, she isn't, is she? She's a corrupt, criminal, mendacious thief, isn't she? I hear she's on track for a personal fortune of at least US$200 million. Nice work if you can get it!
12 Captain Poppy (#)
being an American that has never been to Argentina, the news on TV is government run. Don't believe what you think is the truth.
WRONG!! I have lived in Argentina and travelled it from Misiones in the North, to Tierra del Fuego in the South. I spent the best time of my life while I was there. I had a chance to experience the culture and learn the history. I made many Friends there with whom I communicate with on a periodic basis. So, how many times have you been to Argentina? Care to discuss a little geography?
WRONG AGAIN!!!The news on TV in Argentina is not Government runned you ......! Only Canal 7 is an official station and I have no access to it. I have TN, which is Clarin group, TeleFe , and C5N. I make a judgement from what I see and hear, The strike was widely unpolular and seen as more of an inconvenience. It was tolerated because Argentines have become accustomed to these events. Those interviewed expressed that people have a right to strike but have no right to threaten businesses that remain open, against those that break the strike, and blocking public passages. I sense a growing resentment against these type of actions by picketers.
From random interviews in neighborhodds, most people expressed that if they had an option, they would have gone to work rather than stay at home, but there was no guarantee that public transport would be available.
Those bus lines that worked decided to shut down their services early fearing for the safety of their employees after Moyano Waffen SS shot at their vehicles and issued threats. Businesses, mainly in the downtown food services, were forced to close down after Moyano storm troopers entered their property and threatened management, workers, clients, and then proceeded to vandalize their property.
The busines district closed down due to concern for their employees safety.
A big black eye for Moyano and a plus for Cristina I would say. http://www.telam.com.ar/nota/44634/
Poppy the support is just over 50% just like the support for O'Bhama in the USA and much more than the gvt in the UK.
How opposition is manifest varies from country to country and how much interference there is from metropolitan countries also varies.But you know that but you are,like an eagle,focused on your prey rather than on maintaining a balanced approach.
That is your normal failure just like yankeeboy the man in on holiday somewhere around Jamaica or such place
its about the argie strike not the USA or UK .
but 14 seems to think argentina has a FREE press,
if that is the case,
then you have nothing to worry about have you.
Yuleno I fine it unlikely that her support reaches 50% Can I prove it.....of course not as you cannot prove otherwise. The fact of matter remains that the individuals that are unhappy with kirchner and hit the streets to strike, protest and demonstrate are affecting the country more than the supporters seeking hand out. I do think that ne next protest is going to send ups her spineless back and send Cannibal Lecter Fernendaz into atrial fibrillation.
Yuleno, is verbosity a learned trait for expected outcomes?
A famous man once said that brevity is the soul of wit
If the countries leadership had any pride versus ego, they would pull the plug on kirchner rather than allowing her to pull the plug on the country. But it's quite obvious the her party is all about lining the pockets.
Yuleno......facts are not only irrefutable, but also replicable by independent sources.
Why do you believe this is a fact?
Because it fits your fantasy the kirchner is competent?
Who provides these factual stats, Indec?
Do you not believe Argentina has not deteriorated under her myopic rein?
Do you not believe those march and protests?
Will all you trolls only believe it with violence?
Poppy, most likely, there is NO reasoning with Trolls on here like Yuleno.
Other audience or posters on MP need to understand that. Regardless of what Yuleno type Trolls actually think, themselves, they are paid to deny and obscure facts and promote the messages of their employers. They are paid, professional, propagandists.
Their message is consistent though, so it suggests they follow a master directive.
On the other hand, CFK-boosters like Pirat-Hunter ALEX VARGAS, are merely brainwashed street soldiers of CFK's personality cult and La Campora.
Those Dumf¥ks probably do believe the La Campora Juvenil. drivel and their faith is unshakable.
I think it gives stability and hope to the bitter and the mentally-ill.
My 2cents - waiting now for a nutjob to deny what I've said,
I love the scenes where the redcoats are getting battered especially in 2:01 where the redcoats are surrendering. Fits them well, just as in Buenos Aires in 1806 and 1807. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo
“Today wasn't a strike. It wasn't even a picket. This was about strong-arm tactics and threats,” she told supporters at a rally. “We cannot bow to extortion.”
Does this woman put her foot in her mouth EVERY time she opens it?
Poppy you admit you cannot prove what level of support the gvt has,yet you somehow 'know',or perhaps think its not over 50%.On what basis can you make that claim.You have no evidence from the strike to help you back up your claim.
What I find disturbing is that you are making a claim and do not know how you arrive at that claim.
Others dismiss what they can't substantiate by claiming that some people are trolls of the gvt.They are hinting that it is gvt propaganda that is being posted.However propaganda,information,and support for the gvt is dismissed in this way,and claims are made to contest what they don't like by using guesswork.
Poppy can you return to making considered post as some will be claim that O'Bhama has no support and that he should resign when the tax changes take place.And after all the bankers who caused the problem with the economy,and got themselves rich are not as yet having to pay the money,are they?
You finding it disturbing, my poor dearless Yuleno. Did I ever say I had no means to my end?
Did I every say I could not support my statement......I said proof and unlike you trolls, proof to my is something I can verify via an independent means/source.......not wikipedia or utube like you trolls alwasy quote. Nor even all the news articles in Mercos, BA Herald, La Nacion, Yahoo News, WSJ., CNN Latin America.....All those sources and more report over 50% dissatisfaction with the asshole you elected to destroy argentina.
Stick to the subject Yuleno......your diversion skills are usless, bankers lend money to those who need it, even those who cannot manage credit like argentina. Oh.....did you read about Judge Griesa this morning? It sucks in please were the law cannot be ruled with a suitcase of greenbacks, doesn't it?
Happy Thanksgiving Yuleno.....I need to shower and head to ......it's football and feast all day
On this day of Thanks, I give thanks I am not an Argentine
@45 Poppy
You already addressed all of Yuleno's criticisms thoroughly, in your post @24.
It was very well put too.
Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
It is now Black Friday, today. Many people in Canada are streaming across the border to the US, for huge savings at the stores bursting with goods.
(Cocks nose at Yuleno and Nozzy Troll in Mendoza, land of photo-shopped malls)
Yes....today is the offical start to Christmas shopping. Even in the sluggish economy, there is hardly any place to park, malls are shoulder to shoulder and a fight to get anywhere.....it's brutal. I try to do things onlins.....lol
Seems this was a thuggish strike, attacking, rather than coming from, the working people. No wonder really, as it was definately a scab strike, a political move to drive out a pro-labour President and presumably replace her with a more pro-capital one. A big up to all the workers who didn't cross the real picket line in this situation - and went to work =)
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Disclaimer & comment rulesCFK has finally made the main world news in The Telegraph:
Nov 21st, 2012 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/argentina/9692214/Kirchners-popularity-in-freefall-amid-new-mass-protest.html
If this doesn't constitute a strike, what does?
Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0She won't listen and inflation is the 4th highest in the world. Sad woman for sure.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 - Even better than that idlehands, even the SUN was mocking them yesterday lol
Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Silence is Golden golden,
Nov 21st, 2012 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0oh yes it is.
I wonder if she is starting to get jealous of where her husband ran off to?
Nov 21st, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6
Nov 21st, 2012 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If she isn't careful she will be with him in that monstrosity before she knows what has hit her.
My god the Sun criticised something.But it wasn't the role of the police in the miners strike,Wapping,hillsborough or the Millie dowler incident.Some creditability the Sun has.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the don't apologise do they.
Are they connected to Clarin,um?
Yuleno, now, with the rich, middleclass and union workers against Anusmouth Kirchner, who exactly is lefty to support her? I have been told over and over that the poor in Argentina is very small?
Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0From the live news reports from Argentina that I was able to see yesterday it seems as if this strike was widely unpopular. If people had a chance to go to work, they did. The strike was just a huge inconvenience to them and made their feelings agains the strike be known. Others did not go to work because of the stoppage by transport services due to concerns for the safety of their workers that were threatened by gun slinging thugs. Some businesses opened and then were forced to close by further armed thugery by the Moyano storm troopers.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina was right, this was not a strike but an affront to working people.
All a show by Moyano who can't live without getting his ass kissed by the government.
Cristina will survive this and many more attempts by to destabilize her position. Aquaintences tell me, that if there were an election today, she still will win.
10. Hmm that is strange I had 2 Rg friends ask me to help them get a travel vista to the USA yesterday so they can get out of that horrible place.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well ProRG_American
Nov 21st, 2012 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0being an American that has never been to Argentina, the news on TV is government run. Don't believe what you think is the truth.
AND
Suzzie go back in your hole.
Just wait until the new protests and demonstration that are in the works!!!!!!!!!!
They will never forget these and cannot deny the news ones in the works to remove asslips kirchner.
@10 Sorry? Can we see the pictures of the workers fighting to get through to their places of work? How about pictures of the workers remonstrating with the pickets? Unfortunately, we got to read the party line before you posted. CFK even had the gall to claim that SHE was a worker. Flying around the world, pointlessly, so that she can look for her future palace whilst spending tens of thousands of dollars (dollars that her people aren't allowed to buy) of clothes, shoes, handbags is hardly likely to make the people see her as a worker. But then, she isn't, is she? She's a corrupt, criminal, mendacious thief, isn't she? I hear she's on track for a personal fortune of at least US$200 million. Nice work if you can get it!
Nov 21st, 2012 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 012 Captain Poppy (#)
Nov 21st, 2012 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0 being an American that has never been to Argentina, the news on TV is government run. Don't believe what you think is the truth.
WRONG!! I have lived in Argentina and travelled it from Misiones in the North, to Tierra del Fuego in the South. I spent the best time of my life while I was there. I had a chance to experience the culture and learn the history. I made many Friends there with whom I communicate with on a periodic basis. So, how many times have you been to Argentina? Care to discuss a little geography?
WRONG AGAIN!!!The news on TV in Argentina is not Government runned you ......! Only Canal 7 is an official station and I have no access to it. I have TN, which is Clarin group, TeleFe , and C5N. I make a judgement from what I see and hear, The strike was widely unpolular and seen as more of an inconvenience. It was tolerated because Argentines have become accustomed to these events. Those interviewed expressed that people have a right to strike but have no right to threaten businesses that remain open, against those that break the strike, and blocking public passages. I sense a growing resentment against these type of actions by picketers.
From random interviews in neighborhodds, most people expressed that if they had an option, they would have gone to work rather than stay at home, but there was no guarantee that public transport would be available.
Those bus lines that worked decided to shut down their services early fearing for the safety of their employees after Moyano Waffen SS shot at their vehicles and issued threats. Businesses, mainly in the downtown food services, were forced to close down after Moyano storm troopers entered their property and threatened management, workers, clients, and then proceeded to vandalize their property.
The busines district closed down due to concern for their employees safety.
A big black eye for Moyano and a plus for Cristina I would say.
http://www.telam.com.ar/nota/44634/
@14 ProRGtroll
Nov 21st, 2012 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really, a hearsay analysis by a known La Campora troll, who saw it on television, in another country??
I'm convinced !!
:- )
Goofball Telam is GOVERNMENT OWNED AND OPERATED.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gosh what a moron.
You're an American like I am superman. Where do you live in the USA?
Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Captain Yankeeconqueror
Nov 21st, 2012 - 06:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What can you do if your ship come upon a crew riot ?
14
Nov 21st, 2012 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At the present time, the company is a government-owned entity under the control of the Secretaría de Comunicación Pública (Communications Ministry)
thats pretty fucking embarrising dont you think Prog???
mouth meet foot lol
Poppy the support is just over 50% just like the support for O'Bhama in the USA and much more than the gvt in the UK.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How opposition is manifest varies from country to country and how much interference there is from metropolitan countries also varies.But you know that but you are,like an eagle,focused on your prey rather than on maintaining a balanced approach.
That is your normal failure just like yankeeboy the man in on holiday somewhere around Jamaica or such place
Captain Yankeeconqueror
Nov 21st, 2012 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you filming in Caribbean ?
probably its name is The pirates & The plastic queens
Laugh.............
they keep changing the subject,
Nov 21st, 2012 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0its about the argie strike not the USA or UK .
but 14 seems to think argentina has a FREE press,
if that is the case,
then you have nothing to worry about have you.
@10 I have never in my life heard of a place where ppl were concerned for their safety in a commute because of a strike.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Other Arg prezs have had way more national strikes anyway, so she's enjoyed relative peace.
Yuleno I fine it unlikely that her support reaches 50% Can I prove it.....of course not as you cannot prove otherwise. The fact of matter remains that the individuals that are unhappy with kirchner and hit the streets to strike, protest and demonstrate are affecting the country more than the supporters seeking hand out. I do think that ne next protest is going to send ups her spineless back and send Cannibal Lecter Fernendaz into atrial fibrillation.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yuleno, is verbosity a learned trait for expected outcomes?
A famous man once said that brevity is the soul of wit
looks like dead day afternoon.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If only at la casa rosado
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe its name is the pink plastic boats !
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the countries leadership had any pride versus ego, they would pull the plug on kirchner rather than allowing her to pull the plug on the country. But it's quite obvious the her party is all about lining the pockets.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 027 u on somthing,
Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0we see no boats..
24 Captain Poppy (#)
Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nov 21st, 2012 - 07:55 pm
brevity is the soul of wit
William Shakespeare.
In other words. If you are going to tell a long joke you best make it a good one.
Bit like KFC and her 'government' really.
Poppy
Nov 21st, 2012 - 09:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why is a fact unlikely?Because it doesn't fit your scenario?If there is discontent it can be addressed or ignored.Dont you think that is true?
@20 Yule log
Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poppy the support is just over 50% just like the support for O'Bhama in the USA and much more than the gvt in the UK.
Was the 'poll' taken yesterday or today?
:-D
Yuleno......facts are not only irrefutable, but also replicable by independent sources.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why do you believe this is a fact?
Because it fits your fantasy the kirchner is competent?
Who provides these factual stats, Indec?
Do you not believe Argentina has not deteriorated under her myopic rein?
Do you not believe those march and protests?
Will all you trolls only believe it with violence?
@33 poppy
Nov 21st, 2012 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poppy, most likely, there is NO reasoning with Trolls on here like Yuleno.
Other audience or posters on MP need to understand that. Regardless of what Yuleno type Trolls actually think, themselves, they are paid to deny and obscure facts and promote the messages of their employers. They are paid, professional, propagandists.
Their message is consistent though, so it suggests they follow a master directive.
On the other hand, CFK-boosters like Pirat-Hunter ALEX VARGAS, are merely brainwashed street soldiers of CFK's personality cult and La Campora.
Those Dumf¥ks probably do believe the La Campora Juvenil. drivel and their faith is unshakable.
I think it gives stability and hope to the bitter and the mentally-ill.
My 2cents - waiting now for a nutjob to deny what I've said,
LOL
More positive news on upcoming year. www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/21/argentina-economy-industry-idUSL1E8ML5OX20121121
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no ones pay attention on me.....where is Isolde? oh,,,still touching her toes?
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lol
I love the scenes where the redcoats are getting battered especially in 2:01 where the redcoats are surrendering. Fits them well, just as in Buenos Aires in 1806 and 1807.
Nov 21st, 2012 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzRhFH5OyHo
Why is ProRG suddenly spamming the same nonsense in multiple threads?
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Off topic, irrelevant and fictional.
The new la campora troll tactic is to post a bunch of nonsense and garbage thinking it will annoy people and stop the critiques against TMBOBA
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0#8 yes, my fool KK, anything that does not support Kretina is manipulated by Clarin. lol
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0@36
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nutjob, right on cue.
:- )
“Today wasn't a strike. It wasn't even a picket. This was about strong-arm tactics and threats,” she told supporters at a rally. “We cannot bow to extortion.”
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Does this woman put her foot in her mouth EVERY time she opens it?
@37 - ProRG pretend Yank
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The people of Argentina are getting fed up with your pathetic, incompetent, neurotic President.
I believe there is a length of rope with her name on it...
What will you say when the 'Dear Leader' is swinging from a lamp post in the Plaza de Mayo?
Poppy you admit you cannot prove what level of support the gvt has,yet you somehow 'know',or perhaps think its not over 50%.On what basis can you make that claim.You have no evidence from the strike to help you back up your claim.
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What I find disturbing is that you are making a claim and do not know how you arrive at that claim.
Others dismiss what they can't substantiate by claiming that some people are trolls of the gvt.They are hinting that it is gvt propaganda that is being posted.However propaganda,information,and support for the gvt is dismissed in this way,and claims are made to contest what they don't like by using guesswork.
Poppy can you return to making considered post as some will be claim that O'Bhama has no support and that he should resign when the tax changes take place.And after all the bankers who caused the problem with the economy,and got themselves rich are not as yet having to pay the money,are they?
You finding it disturbing, my poor dearless Yuleno. Did I ever say I had no means to my end?
Nov 22nd, 2012 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did I every say I could not support my statement......I said proof and unlike you trolls, proof to my is something I can verify via an independent means/source.......not wikipedia or utube like you trolls alwasy quote. Nor even all the news articles in Mercos, BA Herald, La Nacion, Yahoo News, WSJ., CNN Latin America.....All those sources and more report over 50% dissatisfaction with the asshole you elected to destroy argentina.
Stick to the subject Yuleno......your diversion skills are usless, bankers lend money to those who need it, even those who cannot manage credit like argentina. Oh.....did you read about Judge Griesa this morning? It sucks in please were the law cannot be ruled with a suitcase of greenbacks, doesn't it?
Happy Thanksgiving Yuleno.....I need to shower and head to ......it's football and feast all day
On this day of Thanks, I give thanks I am not an Argentine
does it really matter,
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0after all it is the argies on strike, is it not.
@45 Poppy
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You already addressed all of Yuleno's criticisms thoroughly, in your post @24.
It was very well put too.
Hope you had a good Thanksgiving.
It is now Black Friday, today. Many people in Canada are streaming across the border to the US, for huge savings at the stores bursting with goods.
(Cocks nose at Yuleno and Nozzy Troll in Mendoza, land of photo-shopped malls)
Yes....today is the offical start to Christmas shopping. Even in the sluggish economy, there is hardly any place to park, malls are shoulder to shoulder and a fight to get anywhere.....it's brutal. I try to do things onlins.....lol
Nov 23rd, 2012 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems this was a thuggish strike, attacking, rather than coming from, the working people. No wonder really, as it was definately a scab strike, a political move to drive out a pro-labour President and presumably replace her with a more pro-capital one. A big up to all the workers who didn't cross the real picket line in this situation - and went to work =)
Nov 24th, 2012 - 01:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@49 BSK
Nov 24th, 2012 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ha, ha, ha.
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