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Cristina Fernandez calls for regional litigation mechanisms and blasts international bodies as ‘predators’
Argentine President Cristina Fernandez criticized international organizations which she described as ‘predators’ and called for the region to create its own mechanisms to settle litigations among South American countries. Read full article
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Dec 05th, 2012 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0I agree 1000% with CFK here. Bye-bye UN, IMF, World Bank, IHO, WTO, WHO, and i would dare to say the Antarctic Treaty too.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 05:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Horrible organizations which are rotten to the core thanks to the corrupt northern countries and their abuse of those bodies to further their clutching at retaining international power.
Let's withdraw from all of them, NOW!
Rodolfo Walsh will be turning in his grave.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 05:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0@3
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0About the only thing I will ever agree with you.
Argentina out of all international organizations, NOW!
I suppose they would have had 'great integrity' according to CFK, if they were to find in Argentina's favour.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:21 am - Link - Report abuse 02 Tito The Clown Troll
Dec 05th, 2012 - 07:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Please!!! then the rest of us wouldn't have to put up with that pathetic whinning from KFC / TMBOA / Ol' Turkey Neck / The Harpy every time something doesn't go their way.
It's bad enough they are a member of these organizations and don't adhere to the rules, all Argentina does is lower the tone anyway. It would be for best if they just f**ked off back under their rock and didn't come out again. Then the rest of the world could move on.
I'll never understand how they managed to get into these organizations in the first place, surely there must be an entry code or something....
How to make friends and influence people?
Dec 05th, 2012 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or in CFK's case, lie, steal and cheat.....
Here's a novel idea how about honoring the deals you signed up too? How about showing some integrity, respect, decency and being an international country that others can respect? Take a look at Brazil or Chile for guidance on being a country other countries of the world and international bodies can respect.
You are the makers of your own downfall, this has zero to do with UN, WCB, IMF and all of the other bodies and all to do with your own despicable actions.
Playing the victim card no longer works and you're all out of excuses.
To be fair, in countries where the presidential executive is used to pressurising the judiciary into making decisions that follow partisan lines it doesn't make sense for them to use the same independent courts that the rest of the sane world uses.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0My only question is, are they expecting to get people investing under these rules, because surely every major investor is going to avoid their bonds for the paperless nonsense that they are?
South America = North Korea? It will if they carry this caper out.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm sure Nostroll, PH, MA and the rest will be delighted.
Dear Presidente.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent idea, start by resigning from the G20 and save yourself the humiliation of being expelled.
@4 ... Please accept my resignation. I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is he wearing?!!??!??!?!!?!?!???!!!!
Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0The 2012 Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index is just out. Argentina is at position 102.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/results
Surely it's long overdue something was done about these Transparency International predators, and Argentina got its own Corruption Perceptions Index. Maybe INDEC could make one?
Cristina Fernandez insisted that “the paradigms we were told we should follow have collapsed” and they have shown to be “unfair and inefficient with developing countries”.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0What she is saying is that she doesn't like the implications for collapsing countries;
but what she means is she doesn't like the implications for her own collapsing economy.
toooldtodieyoung (#6) says ... 'I'll never understand how (Argentina) managed to get into these organizations (UN, IMF, World Bank, IHO, WTO, WHO, etc) in the first place, surely there must be an entry code or something....'
Unfortunately, poor nations always seek to join richer nations/groups so that they can improve their positions by grants, loans and preferential arrangements. And the supra-national bodies altruistically let them join.
This often ends in tears when they over-extend themselves when it comes to pay-back.
They then turn to politicising the (economic) entities and warp them into unusability .... 'unfit for purpose', like the UN.
Sometimes they default and 're-schedule' to avoid repayment;
they claim that the people to whom they owe money are 'vultures'.
STOP PRESS!!!!!!!!
Dec 05th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0South American solidarity, Correa resigns from CO OP!
“”“I suppose they would have had 'great integrity' according to CFK, if they were to find in Argentina's favour.”“””
Dec 05th, 2012 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0oh most certainly...ever noticed how little the UN is trumpeted since the fat-lady sang on self-determination?
What she means by “regional litigation mechanisms” is that she wants to create legally binding bodies for south america that Argentina is able to dominate and manipulate in it's own interests.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina can't abide being a small fish in a big pond so they want to find one small enough for them to rule over.
@17
Dec 05th, 2012 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought she meant, creating a system that takes precedence over international law, ie South American Law.
CFK is doing a wonderful job at destroying all Argentine credibility. Argentina has now fallen two places to 102nd place in the World's Corruption Perception Index and now lies in 102nd place sandwiched in between Senegal and Gabon. LOL.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 017. Spot on! Argentina is finding bullying Int'l orgs isn't working for them any longer.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm I wonder if that is because they have lost all USA support?
Soon you will see pressure to pay The Paris Club in full...which may wipe out all of their reserves.
Rut Ro
@13 HansNiesund (#)
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:56 am
Don't you mean 'maybe INDEC can make one up'?
she described as ‘predators’
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[ good on ya ]
As long as they let you get away with it, they will surely pay the price of peace and stupidity.
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@17
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And what's wrong with that?
Why would you stay in a pond where you know you have no say in the going's on? duh, what a moron you are.
Has Argentina any credibility left?
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes. We are just not interested in having any credibility with YOU. What does Argentina have to do to prove we don't give a sh!t about relations with your insignificant nations?
I don't see how you can borrow money from the world bank and IMF and then announce you don't agree with their rules. It's such childish behaviour, this woman sounds like an idiot every time she opens her mouth. If you don't like the rules, don't join the club!
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 023/ What is wrong? Let's see, the only countries that may join that kind of abortion are Ecuador, Venezuela, Bolivia (maybe) and Argentina.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The most corrupt and mismanaged countries in South America.
The organization would have no standing in the world community and would further prevent FDI from reaching any of these countries.
How's The Bank of the South working out for you?
hahaha
@25 Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#)
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:34 pm
Fine. Pay your debts and then you can be on your way.
Where about in Argentina dd you say you lived?
@27
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You didn't answer the question as posed. You never can huh.
23 Nostrolldamus The 2nd
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who in their right mind would join a regional litigation mechanism that is dominated by Argentina?
@2 Let's missile argieland into oblivion and see whether things improve. After all, since when was the removal of a cesspit a bad thing?
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9 Back in the late 1930s, the world had a chance to avoid a catastrophe. Only one man saw the future. Winston Spencer Churchill. Britain failed. France failed. The United States failed. The Soviet Union was only interested in what it could steal. As a result of which, we had 6 years of total war. Although the USA only managed 4 years, the Soviet Union only fought when it had no choice for 4 years and, for the most part, France didn't bother. Only Britain, with the limited resources of its Empire, saw it through from the beginning to the end. And now it may fall to Britain, once again, to save the world from totalitarian dictatorship. There are obvious places to be destroyed. Argieland, Bolivia, Ecuador, Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, Palestine, Venezuela. Reasons for such places to exist? Then shouldn't we do what we failed to do in the 30s?
Nostrol, you did'nt include removing from this: Would you like that too?
Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/11/argentina-no-longer-deserves-to-be-a-major-non-nato-ally-of-the-us
Hot off the press Argentina ranks 102nd in the corruption perceptions index (out of 174). not good.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/results
What a truly fantastic new concept, International Relations by Litigation.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Scrap Foreign and Diplomatic Services and install lawyers, all S American Emabassies surrender Diplomatic Status and turn their buildings into law offices.
Remove The Republic of Argentina Consulate sign from outside the building and replace it with one that says, “Messrs Peron, Peron and sons, Attorneys at Law.”
I wonder if it will catch on!
CFK has now accused the old age pensioners who have brought their cases against the government for incorrect payment and have won their cases in the Supreme Court of being “vultures” similar to MNL et al. Her mother was one of the pensioners to make a claim, which she won and unlike the vast majority of cases has been paid!!!!
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Transparency International scores:
Argentina placed 102 score 35
Bolivia placed 105 score 34
Ecuador placed 118 score 32
Venezuela placed 165 score 19
We Argentines should be proud that we are the best of the worst in South America!!!!!!!!!
This stupid interchange of nukes on this site is ridiculous. Its not going to happen. So please Vargas and Conks leave it alone. It contributes bu**er all to intelligent debate
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Britain can defeat malnourished freedom fighters in Afghan caves you are gonna take North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Argentina.
Well, the post-Empire “Britain is fuck-all” now is in full swing! Every time I read Conqueror I inevitably think of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0ZJPCWtyGo
Same person.
@32
Sorry, I didn't even know that existed. I guess that's how important that is for Argentina!!!
@30
No, doltish friend, Argentina won't be asking anyone to “join”. I was just answering your rhetorical question... if we have no say in those organizations, wtf stay??? What's so ridiculous about leaving organizations that have no interest in your well-being?
'There are obvious places to be destroyed:
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argieland, Bolivia, Ecuador, Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, Palestine, Venezuela.'
(Conq #31)
'There are obvious places to be destroyed.
Argieland, Bolivia, Ecuador, Iran, North Korea, Pakistan, Palestine, Venezuela.'
(Conq #31)
God, Conq #31, I'm glad that you're not wanting to destroy Brasil. I've had enough house moves.
@32
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This quote from that article:
“In 2005, Argentina helped scuttle hemispheric-wide free trade talks with the U.S., ”
That is the proudest legacy I can imagine for Argentina. Brazil was about to sign-off on it too. Argentina single-handedly destroyed the Free Trade area of the Americas...
... and today 34 nations in the hemisphere should be thanking us for that.
You are welcome, Americas.
offcourse.. .Argentine Law must be universal law... and Argentine law means NO LAW.. ....but just some Decision that means an advantage to Argentina...
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 Argentina hasn't really come up with a good alternative. The prices for commodities here are the worst. It sucks having to go internet “window” shopping for things you know would cost triple and take more than a month to arrive.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you even in Argentina, or are you one of those idealistic morons like certain trolls that live in Britain or Canada that are safely far away from having their money siphoned off and given to lazy criminals and political parasites?
@ 36
Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thats it he's deffinately Guzz using different name, “malnourished freedom fighters” my arse.
Oh and I really do hate doing this, but because you have such a short memory retention span. We did take on Argentina and we comprehensively, totally and utterly defeated you on the field of battle.
You were puching above your weight then and your still trying to did it, grow up!
@41
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The alternative is you have no job and are sleeping under an Autopista overpass. Because that is exactly what the foreign nations of this world want to do to you and every single solitary argentine.
43. Funny that is not what is happening in Chile.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say the dumbest things, do you think before you type?
No, I can not speak for the rest of the nations of the world, but as a Britian. I want Argentina to mind their own business, leave the Falkland Islanders alone and then we'll leave them alone, to get on with their own lifes. Simple enough for you!
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By the way, why do you say, “want to do to you and every other single solitary Argentinian.”
Is it has we suspect? you are in fact not Argentinian?
@44
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chile didn't produce even a tooth of garlic, or have anyone employed to produce a clove of garlic, when they opened their economy in 1974, 1982, or whenever they did it.
There is no point in discussing these things with sciential exchange because none of you are interested in that. None of you have shown even one time the ability to acknowledge that every situation is its own discrete scenario.
All you are here for is insulting Argentina.
Which is why I gave up noetic interchange long ago (and I woudn't be surprised if you lied about this, but you remember well that way at the very beginning, I did attempt to engage intellectually... no point in doing so when the other side requites with opprobrium and churlish, vulgar anti-argie slogans).
@46
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why would you expect anyone British to support, console or sympathise with Argentina, we were at war with a distinct possibility it could happen again. But on a personal level I am more here to laugh at Argentina than insult them, but it's all good :-)
@47
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I was talking about the world at large, and it ain't just you I know that shocks you to no ends.
“”“” Because that is exactly what the foreign nations of this world want to do to you and every single solitary argentine.“”“”
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Really?
Every single one of them?
Gosh.
You know what? I actually believe you. Your reasoned, literate and common-sense approach has won me over completely.
Bongolesia will be a much better place with you at the helm.
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Back in reality:
What language is CFK using? Is it just really bad translation into English, or does what she says remain as utterly incomprehensible gibberish in Spanish? I'm sure she makes up phrases using some sort of “Phrase-generator”:
http://www.fisheaters.com/jpiispeech.html
“The decisive genius of peace will renew our future dignity.”
See? Pure CFK-ism.
(You can, literally, make it up!!!!)
Argentina insults herself everytime cuntina “the asslips” kirchner opens her sperm recepticle and speaks.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#41 Everytime I go to BsAs and visit, I always have another bag packed with things my in laws and wife's family asks for because they can't get it there.
@46 Can you plesae explain which English dictionary you are using as as an English speaker I do not understand them. Have you got verbal diarorhea and invent words to your erudition? I can reply in Welsh should you wish
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@43 Many of these people are subject to those conditions for various reasons. I don't want to make any generalizations here, because that kind of poverty is everywhere.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some people were born into it, and they live in an environment with nothing of marketable value. There are people that are willing to work for 12 hours a day selling vegetables, socks, handicrafts, or whatever they have to, because they want to be self reliant, because they know it's the right thing to do.
The last class of people are the paco smoking, child molesting, murdering, thieving, animal abusing scum that take advantage of social plans as much as possible, and steal or sell drugs on the side for more money on top of that. They also have no work ethic and are a burden to their employers and the public they are supposed to be serving. These are Cristina's biggest fans.
The working poor hate her, and are exploited just as much as anyone that actually cares about producing something.
@Person playing --Nostrolldamus The 2nd (#)--
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are clearly quite ill. You need help. Step away from the keyboard, leave the bunker and take a walk in the sunshine.
Drama, drama drama. Woe is me, everybody hates me.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Blah blah blah.
More and more you sound like a 13 year old girl.
Grow up.
You live in one of the most corrupt countries in the world. Ruled by a bi-polar, arrogant hag and her pig son who have been robbing you blind for a decade.
Now it is all coming home to roost
and I am glad
If you can't see it you are as stupid as she is
Moldy wheat and drowned soy....not looking too good soy far
Barley para todos
@47
Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not think there will be another war over the Islands, least I hope there will not be, because next time the result will be the same and the cost to them, in human terms, far greater.
In 82, they totally misjudged what the UK's response would be, how the hell they thought they could use force of arms against us and we would not respond in kind, is frankly, mind boggling. What planet had they been living in in the predeeding 80 years of the 20C!
There is a major difference between then and now. Now they are in no doubt, the Islands will be vigorously defended.
Quite puzzled as to why she is still a member of all these groups which she despises...
Dec 05th, 2012 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 037 Tito The Clown Troll
Dec 05th, 2012 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Well, the post-Empire “Britain is fuck-all” now is in full swing!”
As apposed to Argentina which has always been f**k all and soon to be even less................
55 reality check
I know, you'd have to be a complete idiot to try and invade again wouldn't you?
I mean you would have to made a complete mess of your country and not be thinking striaght and NEED a big show to get the people behind you before trying that one again wouldn't you???
Ha, ha, ha!!
Oh, hang on a minute...........
Well, I gave it a shot guys, but after 10 “replies” by the anti-argie anglo-saxons, as I predicted you can't expect an opera out of a donkey.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only one that evinced the semblance of ratiotinating a cogent response was Optimal princeps, and it seems he is argentine, so that makes sense lest he be yet another masquerading foreigner (albeit an utterly misguided argentine who thinks the non-argentine people that post here consider him a human being).
@ 46 Guzz
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0''All you are here for is insulting Argentina.''
I wonder why you are here? A South American who doesn't live there but lives in Europe instead. Why are YOU not living in Argentina? No that is a silly question, even you realise it's far better where you are now than in a country that is going to the wall financially.
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Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#58 once again your educational insecurites are revealing itself.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0* 54 *
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0grow up .......
none of countries are ruled by politicians.
what a chump .
mercopress comments ,,,,,
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0certainly ,,,,,,
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but it is fun to burn the hairs of the asses of the trolls.....lolololololol
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no doubt that this sentence(65) is from Oxford Dictionary.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 29 Nostroll_TTT
Dec 05th, 2012 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You didn't answer the question as posed.”
You never answer questions yourself.
What is the origin of the word “colony”?
Yes, they're totaL friends with Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay and will have a fairer system close to home.
Dec 05th, 2012 - 07:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Roflmao
#66 I am a Daniel Webster user myself, but tell me, since when did dictionaries start putting “sentences” as entires in them?
Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@67 st John
Dec 06th, 2012 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nozzy is not answering the “colony” question.
I wonder why ?? :-D
Great proposal, as usual, from the beautiful Cristina. And what a nice photo I must say, Cristina and Correa make a nice double act of handsomeness and beauty =)
Dec 14th, 2012 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back here to J/O to ckf BK? I take it your right hand healed
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