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Dealing with Argentina “one of the most painful problems” admits President Mujica

Wednesday, December 5th 2012 - 05:22 UTC
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Uruguayan president Jose Mujica confessed that dealing with neighbouring Argentina is “one of the most painful problems” faced by his administration given the weight of the Argentine economy. Read full article

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  • Lord Ton

    Poor Uruguay - the only democratic country in South America and bullied by its southern neighbour, a well known banana Republic.

    You have our sympathy Uruguay.

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 05:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    “it is considered ‘humiliating’ given the repeated circumstances in which Argentina drops out or ignores laboriously worked understandings.”

    ... and bilateral treaties, international treaties, key components of the UN constitution, repeat ad nauseum.

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    Mujica recalls that Argentina is Uruguay's 'eclectic neighbour',
    ie. creates a right rag-bag of policies.

    ... Reminds me of an 1895 Punch cartoon of social commentary

    Lord breakfasting with curate, holding his nose “I’m afraid you’ve got a bad egg, Mr Jones”
    Curate “Oh, no, my Lord, I assure you that parts of it are excellent!”

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Orbit

    Ain't that the truth !

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    “What else but conciliatory can I be? Taking the case to the International Court of The Hague is an alternative? I doubt it”.

    Argentina has him by the short and curlys and he knows it.

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    Whilst everything said by the posters here is true, Mujica has failed to do anything about the things that are within his remit and would help the people and finances of Uruguay:
    1) The dead hand of government, principally the overburdening government employees for a country of 3M. Yes, I know that would show up unemployment but creating new businesses is the answer, not hand-wringing;
    2) Getting people with intellect, experience and proven ability into the heads of the monopolies such as UTE, OSE, etc. The monopolies, with the exception of ANTEL are very poorly run indeed and a gravy train for the directors;
    3) Removing the deadweight of regulation on businesses. Why anyone would bother to run a business in Uruguay is beyond me with all the permits, licences and regular visits by the local intendencia numbnuts (which have to be paid for of course);
    4) Stopping and reversing the trend so beloved of the UK in sending snoopers to check what people are doing while overlooking the antics of big business.

    There are plenty more things that need addressing but if Pepe doesn’t like what he has to do he should resign and let somebody else have a go.

    The real problem here is that I doubt, given the complete fiasco of Pluna in which he is very deeply implicated, if he realises, never mind admits, to his personal shortcomings.

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Good news just in: Argentina has fallen two places in the World's Corruption Perception Index from 100th place down to 102 and is now sandwiched between Senegal and Gabon. But still a G20 country?

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Chris Pepe is so keen on brushing up his image of a simple Cincinatus that he will say any thing to anyone depending on thier orientation. To business, yes come on in we welcome your investment and then goes to the PITCnt and attacks business and the frigorificos. When addressing the farmers another discourso altogether quite at odds with what he says to PIT/CNT. He brings in a tax ICIR designed to break up landholdings of more than 2,500 hectares but the really big boys such as the soya barons and the foriegn forestry companies with vast estates are exempt.
    He talks and talks but does little. As for allowing Argentina to dictate not only Uruguays foriegn policy but also interfering in our internal affairs ... nuff said.

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Dealing with Argentina “one of the most painful problems

    [ going through the back door, normaly is ] lol.

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • surfer

    Does anyone else read tn.com.ar? It's a refreshing contrast to hear a more balanced opinion in the comments section than the extremist Kirchner supporters on here...

    Interesting article about corruption....

    http://tn.com.ar/internacional/corrupcion-la-argentina-entre-los-malos-alumnos_290089

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • aussie sunshine

    When the UK is out of the EU and paying tariffs on South American products the EU will laughing behind their backs.... ): ):

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • surfer

    http://www.transparency.org/cpi2012/results

    They're on the bottom left, glowing red, like a spanked baboon's arse

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Poor Uruguay. Condemned to the “leadership” of a demented, frightened, gutless, senile old man.
    Could he ask for assistance from proper countries? Of course he could. Could he be threatened or bullied if he asked for British or U.S. assistance? Of course not. Britain could beat the shit out of argieland any time. And probably Brazil as well. With U.S. assistance, NO countries in LatAm would stand a chance. And would know it. Uruguay could be safe, secure and stable. But Mujica is too terrified. Poor Uruguay. Do you prefer to be owned by argieland or brazil? Not that it matters. You don't get a say. My guess is argieland. Imperialist, colonialist argieland wants “its” territory back. Goodbye, Uruguay.

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Ozzy
    Who lost out the most when the UK joined the EEC.
    Yep! you and the Kiwis.
    If the UK did leave, about as probable as KFC paying up! it will not be SA who picks up the scraps, It would be USA and Commonwealth.

    It's immaterial anyway, cos it will never happen!

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @13 Conqueror I wouldnt write us off that easy. We may be accomodating and at this time disgustingly submissive under our bucolic president. We are as proud of our sovriegnty as anyone else. Im not Frente ,but oh for Dr Tabare Vasquez who at least defended our nation from the bullies of Buenos Aires

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • emerald

    * Think *
    but,you can not find & hunt Argentine flies here by using all these your names from @1.....up to @15
    keep on your hope..continue to write......

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    What the hell are you on about emerald? A copper Jones fly may work for Think to hook a trout on his Patagonian river but he wont get this old trout to rise for his quest for information so as I can be put on the Campora list

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-32-uk

    'Mujica admitted that tensions have increased between Uruguay and Argentina'
    http://www.americaeconomica.com/index.php?noticia=14672&name=POL%C3%8DTICA

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    There is only one way to deal with a bully and that is to stand up to them and stop being so conciliatory and accommodating with them all the time. Mujica needs to find a backbone.

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @11 aussie raincloud

    Oh, you little uneducated argie troll. Do you not realise that any country (as distinct from LatAm nutjobs) has to pay import tariffs and any country stupid enough to deal with AG has to pay really BIG tariffs plus kick-backs to all and sundry.

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (17) redpoll

    Copper Jones?
    Is that the Welsh version of the Copper John?

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    9 briton

    Dealing with Argentina “one of the most painful problems

    [ going through the back door, normaly is ] lol.

    WHAT???? You mean Ol' Turkey Neck / TMBOA takes it up the Ar*e????

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • emerald

    * 17 *

    titter....titter

    if * Think * is from Argentina ,then i'm Hugo Chávez.
    what a barmy person .

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    Somewhat OT: I note that Danmark is on top again in the World's Corruption Perception Index, instead of being an embarrasing number 2 :-D

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • emerald

    å.....æ.....ø....

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    @ 25

    more like Ææ Øø Åå

    Chile #20
    Uruguay #20
    .
    .
    Ghana #64 - which is why the ARA Libertad is staying there
    .
    .
    .
    . deep down the well one finds the brilliant quartet:
    Argentina #102
    Bolivia #105
    Ecuador #118
    Venezuela #165

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    22 toooldtodieyoung
    it was suposed to be a state secret,
    but it is suggested tinman may be one of the culprits..

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Ach Think bach it was joking I was.As an avid fly fisherman you surely read the reports of your rivers on Flydreamers written by your countrymen, so copper jones it is until you think((?) of another name for that fly

    Dec 05th, 2012 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ynsere

    President Mujica's policy of appeasement has not worked. Unfortunately Uruguay cannot leave the neighbourhood, or kick Argentina out. Other small South American nations must learn the lesson: never do business with Argentina, never believe their promises. Paraguay and the Falklands have already been the direct victims of Argentine military action: never forget.

    Dec 06th, 2012 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Appeasement never works, but what else can you do when you live next door to a country with Governments like theirs and with surrounding Governments, who for some reason also fail to stand up to them.

    Dec 06th, 2012 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    It seems he's only pointing to the importance of Argentina to Uruguay, and a natural geopolitical imbalance caused by their relative weights as old as the history of both countries, NOT attacking Cristina the way the article seems to suggest. Also some subtle analysis of the current stage of capitalism which is a far more useful contribution to the debate than any (real or imagined!) Argie-bashing but seems to have stimulated less discussion on here...

    Dec 14th, 2012 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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