Paraguay must continue suspended from Mercosur following the group’s presidential summit on Friday, anticipated the head of the Latin American desk from the Brazilian Foreign ministry, Antonio Jose Ferreira Simoes. Read full article
Brit #3
the Mercosur leaders want PA out of the chamber until Ecuador and Bolivia join Venezuela as the new 'Bolivarian' hub of the Continent, controlling the politics of Mercosur, and the distribution of any world-trading profits, in particular.
What I fail to grasp is why Dilma Rousseff is unable to grasp that her Brasil will become the milschcow of these derelict states.
If Dilma does grasp this implication, she is playing a very opaque game of protecting her own corner.
Perhaps she is STILL a true 'internationalist' and is thinking in terms bigger than just her sub-continental country. But she could not achieve such ends by watering down the development of the Continent's countries towards a Lowest Common Denominator.
Hers is the ONLY South American country that could act as a magnet for REAL, world-scale, cutting-edge, technological development - a focus where big benefits can ripple outwards across the Continent - without being truely screwed-over, or 'owned', by the US and China.
Mercosur could have given Dilma's Brasil the multi-national clout to play on the big-boy's pitch.
But hobbling Brasil's 'striker' by binding the chains of EC, BO and VE, to her legs is a great way of losing every game and getting relegated back to the lowest divisions.
Unfortunately, Mercosur has been changed from an economic group to a political gang, so Paraguay is not wanted because it´s braking more leftist Gvt. entrance.
And Unasur has been changed from a political group to a mob gang threatening those members that thinks different......Democracy...???
By the contrary, OAS hasn´t taken any measures against Paraguay because what they did is absolutely constitutional.......and democratic.
@7 Despite the past, why doesn't Chile hold out a hand to Paraguay? Despite the words of the Chilean government, wouldn't it be beneficial for Chile to bring another member into the Pacific Alliance? Wouldn't Paraguay's oil be attractive?
So Paraguay are being kept out of the club
... until it becomes
more 'Constitutional'? ...
more Democratic?
Is there not a smigeon of embarassment that the other countries are asking for massively more than they, themselves deliver?
This is using the ideals of 'democracy' to act so absolutely undemocratically.
I guess this is why the presidents and 'democratic' dictators of Mercosur and Unasur devolved management of this travesty of justice to their Foreign ministers.
It allows them to say Well, it wasn't me!
@9 These sorts of countries are full of uneducated folk who look to their leaders to tell them a story about what they're going to deliver them. In china, it's some vision of a socialist utopia, and they get an authoritarian autocracy and massive levels of corruption. In Argentina, Venezuela etc they sell them the vision of a socialist utopia, and they again get an authoritarian autocracy and massive levels of corruption... repeat ad nauseum.
The political beliefs of the leadership rarely have any alignment with the story they are selling, and terms like 'democracy' are inconsequential. Paraguay should have known this.
The list of things Argentina needs support on from its neighbours, grows ever longer, how long before its struggles at the WTO gets added to the list.
We shall see which S American countries are prepared to support Argentina’s blockade, and campaign of economic and environmental warfare against the Islanders.
Foreign Office take note, and choose our friends and enemies in the region accordingly.
They will not yield to Bolivarian dictator and Argentina has no shame along with Uruguay and Brazil.
When Ecuador and Bolivia joint the Mercosur how will Brazil control the votes along with Venezuela they will lose control of the Mercosur Dilma along with Patriota they are very ideologist and idiots I can believe the Brazilian foreign policy will lose control of latam ha, ha ,ha.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSeems to be a classic case of moving the goal posts!
Dec 06th, 2012 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0One has to wonder, what will happen before August 13 arrives?
Who wants to be among communist failed states and morons?
Dec 06th, 2012 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0You can't help but think they need this time to do more things they can't do when Paraguay is back in the fold, maybe vote in another despot?
Dec 06th, 2012 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@3 North Korea?
Dec 06th, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Mickey Mouse wants to become a member too.
Dec 06th, 2012 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brit #3
Dec 06th, 2012 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the Mercosur leaders want PA out of the chamber until Ecuador and Bolivia join Venezuela as the new 'Bolivarian' hub of the Continent, controlling the politics of Mercosur, and the distribution of any world-trading profits, in particular.
What I fail to grasp is why Dilma Rousseff is unable to grasp that her Brasil will become the milschcow of these derelict states.
If Dilma does grasp this implication, she is playing a very opaque game of protecting her own corner.
Perhaps she is STILL a true 'internationalist' and is thinking in terms bigger than just her sub-continental country. But she could not achieve such ends by watering down the development of the Continent's countries towards a Lowest Common Denominator.
Hers is the ONLY South American country that could act as a magnet for REAL, world-scale, cutting-edge, technological development - a focus where big benefits can ripple outwards across the Continent - without being truely screwed-over, or 'owned', by the US and China.
Mercosur could have given Dilma's Brasil the multi-national clout to play on the big-boy's pitch.
But hobbling Brasil's 'striker' by binding the chains of EC, BO and VE, to her legs is a great way of losing every game and getting relegated back to the lowest divisions.
Unfortunately, Mercosur has been changed from an economic group to a political gang, so Paraguay is not wanted because it´s braking more leftist Gvt. entrance.
Dec 06th, 2012 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Unasur has been changed from a political group to a mob gang threatening those members that thinks different......Democracy...???
By the contrary, OAS hasn´t taken any measures against Paraguay because what they did is absolutely constitutional.......and democratic.
@7 Despite the past, why doesn't Chile hold out a hand to Paraguay? Despite the words of the Chilean government, wouldn't it be beneficial for Chile to bring another member into the Pacific Alliance? Wouldn't Paraguay's oil be attractive?
Dec 06th, 2012 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So Paraguay are being kept out of the club
Dec 06th, 2012 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0... until it becomes
more 'Constitutional'? ...
more Democratic?
Is there not a smigeon of embarassment that the other countries are asking for massively more than they, themselves deliver?
This is using the ideals of 'democracy' to act so absolutely undemocratically.
I guess this is why the presidents and 'democratic' dictators of Mercosur and Unasur devolved management of this travesty of justice to their Foreign ministers.
It allows them to say Well, it wasn't me!
@9 These sorts of countries are full of uneducated folk who look to their leaders to tell them a story about what they're going to deliver them. In china, it's some vision of a socialist utopia, and they get an authoritarian autocracy and massive levels of corruption. In Argentina, Venezuela etc they sell them the vision of a socialist utopia, and they again get an authoritarian autocracy and massive levels of corruption... repeat ad nauseum.
Dec 06th, 2012 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The political beliefs of the leadership rarely have any alignment with the story they are selling, and terms like 'democracy' are inconsequential. Paraguay should have known this.
The list of things Argentina needs support on from its neighbours, grows ever longer, how long before its struggles at the WTO gets added to the list.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We shall see which S American countries are prepared to support Argentina’s blockade, and campaign of economic and environmental warfare against the Islanders.
Foreign Office take note, and choose our friends and enemies in the region accordingly.
They will not yield to Bolivarian dictator and Argentina has no shame along with Uruguay and Brazil.
Dec 07th, 2012 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When Ecuador and Bolivia joint the Mercosur how will Brazil control the votes along with Venezuela they will lose control of the Mercosur Dilma along with Patriota they are very ideologist and idiots I can believe the Brazilian foreign policy will lose control of latam ha, ha ,ha.
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