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Jewish community protests for being kept on the dark on Argentina/Iran negotiations

Monday, December 10th 2012 - 23:02 UTC
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The head of the Argentine-Jewish Community Centre (AMIA), Guillermo Borger, warned the government of President Cristina Fernandez that the organization’s members are concerned by the lack of information regarding ongoing negotiations with Iran over the 1994 terrorist attack on the AMIA headquarters, which killed 85 people. Read full article

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  • ProRG_American

    You can wait and learn about the final details like the rest of us. In the press.

    Dec 10th, 2012 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    kept in the dark..................well there's a thing

    Dec 10th, 2012 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    Why are you Jewish people so supprised just look at the botox queens surname KIRCHNER

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    Actually, the Kirchner's have always been well tied in with International Zionism.

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • travellingscotsman

    ProRG - please explain what you mean by International Zionism? If you mean what I think you mean then you are so completely wrong. In fact you are so wrong about many things but this comment has sealed for me what I think about you now.

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirat-Hunter

    So much for the argument that CFK is Jewish. What will they think of next? Trying to interject the Zionist phobias onto the Argentine public is is a sign of weakness. I am sure that there are many way to make reporting more productive for the world economy, this isn't one of them, if anything the weapon industry must be really happy the minions are doing their part.

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    Old crissy maried the son of a Nazi

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 12:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @6 PH - Alex

    “So much for the argument that CFK is Jewish. What will they think of next? Trying to interject the Zionist phobias onto the Argentine public is is a sign of weakness. I am sure that there are many way to make reporting more productive for the world economy, this isn't one of them, if anything the weapon industry must be really happy the minions are doing their part.”

    Would Argentinians be demoralised or disgusted to discover that CFK is really Jewish ???

    What does THAT say about Argentinisns???

    Do YOU feel the same way?

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • HansNiesund

    @5

    You don't have to scratch these argie extremists too deep to reveal their obsession with other people's foreskins.

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    Jews relax, its just business....i mean talks...i mean business talks...what am i saying, it just talks!
    Im sure jews have nothing to worry about, its not as if Crustina is cutting a deal for investment into Argentina in exchange for better missile technology now is it??

    Iran is only doing this for a greater relationship with the jewish community of Argentina, its just the israeli jews that they want to wipe off the face of the planet, didnt you know??
    as for the bombing im sure Iran will say its just a case of mistaken country, and to make it up to the Arg jews, Iran will invest in your country :))))))

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @3 Infamously, Friedrich Kirchner, General der Panzertruppe, Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves and Swords. Invasion of Poland. Battle of France.
    @10 Missile AND nuclear weapons technology!

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @11 It's not massively infeasible that Maximo's relative is indeed Friedrich Kirchner. Nestor's family claimed to be yugoslavian refugees, however this was normal for those (the SS) whose families were helped to flee Europe by the notoriously boy-loving Catholic Church. Clearly they're still following the same political ideology, of hitlerism, and celebrating the mass extermination of 'brown' people on their bank-notes.

    The question remains, what's with Timmerman's allegiance to hitlerism? Well, during WW2 several Israeli terrorist groups contacted hitler in order to create a division in the german military that consisted of 'israelis' (didn't they know hitler was killing them all?). So there is a historical perspective.

    All in all, what do they expect the British to do? If you deny the existence of the state of israel or talk about their apartheid , then you're suddenly nazi anti-semite scum. Whereas Israel and Argentinian Jews freely deny the rights of the Falklands to exist and deny the existence of the Falkland Islands as a proto-state. So, sifting through this thick slurry of hypocrisy, what is it that they want from us?

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @11 Wrong Kirschner I think conks. This lot I think were Croats and there are suggestions they were associated with the Ustasi but that has yet to be proved

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @13 Hmm, fascists pretending to be commies.

    Not unlike tony 'catholic' blair pretending to be CofE, just because it suited his need for power and nothing to do with personal conviction. Isn't there a commandment about living a lie?

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @14 Bit off theme shed unless you are an Ulsterman

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @15 Sorry about that, I really didn't think that one through.

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    12 Shed-time

    Guys, you are really grasping at straws. Kirchner is a very common name, there is no evidence for this and you look more than a little bit silly trying to suggest that there is...

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ProRG_American

    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/10/27/2741471/jewish-groups-mourn-kirchners-death

    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/10/27/2741471/jewish-groups-mourn-kirchners-death

    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/10/27/2741471/jewish-groups-mourn-kirchners-death

    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/10/27/2741471/jewish-groups-mourn-kirchners-death

    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/10/27/2741471/jewish-groups-mourn-kirchners-death

    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/10/27/2741471/jewish-groups-mourn-kirchners-death

    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2010/10/27/2741471/jewish-groups-mourn-kirchners-death

    Need I show more?

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @17 Yes, I look very silly suggesting that their might be links between modern Argentinian hitlerists with a german surname and SS members fleeing Europe, because none of them ended up in Argentina or South America. *cough*

    Back to the topic “The AMIA leader also criticized Iran as a 'country that goes hand in hand with international terrorism'”... Well it would be just like Argentina then that terrorizes the people of the Falklands, sponsors an international terrorist group called la campora and is a denialist state, denying the existence of the state of the falklands.

    Kind of think they need to clear up their messaging somewhat.

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @12 I'm disturbed about your last paragraph. Personally, I support the State of Israel. (No, I'm not Jewish nor do I have any Jewish links.) However, I maintain that a nation that existed 3,000 years ago, was invaded and occupied many times, but never conquered until 70AD, has a right to re-establish itself on its original territory. It matters not that many Jews fled after 70AD but, if it was flee or die, who wouldn't? I also note that, to the best of my knowledge, Israeli Arabs have the same rights as Israeli Jews. I also note that, by the same illogical tests that implanted argies use on Falkland Islanders, Israelis are also “implanted”. Then, I notice who attacks whom. Examples: The day after Israel declared its independence in 1948, no less than FOUR Arab armies, supported by elements from other Arab countries, attacked. And lost! More recently, the internationally-designated terrorist organisation, Hamas, fired thousands of unguided rockets into Israel. With its avowed intention of wiping Israel from the face of the planet. Oh, and there has never been a “country” called “palestine”. “Palestine” is a region. Just as “the Cotswolds” are a region. In my pre-retirement occupation I met quite a few Israelis. There were some that had chips on their shoulders. But I ask this question: If France, Belgium, Netherlands, Germany, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Iceland and the Irish Republic were all publicly committed to wiping Britain off the face of the planet. And used the Faroe Islands to launch constant rocket/missile attacks on Britain, how would WE feel? And what would WE do? WE need to stop concentrating on the last 60-70 years, as the Arabs would like, and use some perspective.

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • emerald

    What about Jews live in Iran ???????

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @20 Look, I don't deny the holocaust or the right of Israel to exist as a nation. but I don't deny that in order to re-establish itself it was founded upon terrorism and a unilateral declaration of statehood. Even now, expansion means essentially stealing people's land kicking them into areas that are less desirable for israelis. It's a apartheid all but in name. So the real question is, is this an excuse for terrorism?

    b) Churchill quite rightly supported the controlled creation of the state of Israel, so israeli terrorist killed one of his closest friends. 30 years ago, Israel supported Argentina in their attempts to deny the existence of the falkland islanders and ultimately 'genocide' the people. They flew weapons, equipment and training staff in civilian airplanes to Argentina, which isn't exactly okay. These attempts were thwarted by a british task force. They still claim this was the correct thing to do and have never apologized, choosing instead more recently to use British passports in their assassination of arab terrorists and then turning around and sticking their fingers up at us.

    Can anyone objectively see this country as an ally?

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 06:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    It's all about trade and being members of the UN C24 Committee. Argentina is now as good as part of the Axis of Evil.

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”ProRG - please explain what you mean by International Zionism?“”

    he's only saying what hes supposed to - he cant actually explain any of it.

    ----

    well, well, Argentine Government getting even cosier with Iran whilst their Jewish population gets shit-scarred and kept in the dark.

    Way to win votes!

    Its not like Iran has threatened eradicate the state of Israel or denied the Holocaust... I mean just bombing a few Jws in Argentina - psfssll - EASILY overlooked and forgiven.

    What? What do you mean not by the victims and their families?

    What the HECK do they have to do with this?

    They can wait in line like all the rest of us and wait until the press say something.

    (and if that attitude doesnt prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that Pro-RG is a Party Sock Puppet then nothing else will)

    Dec 11th, 2012 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RICO

    I don't think there will be any movement on the investigation into the 1994 attack while Hugo remains in power in Argentina.

    Dec 12th, 2012 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    19 Shed-time

    No, that is no what I said and you know it. Everyone knows that Argentina welcomed Nazis as a general rule but trying to link her specifically to a Nazi general with no actual proof isn't even worthy of the gutter press and, I suspect, not worthy of you either.

    Dec 12th, 2012 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    The fact that kirchnerism looks and sounds like naziism does not mean that the Kirchner/Fernández family has nazi roots, it just means that they have peronist roots!!!!!!

    Dec 12th, 2012 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @22 “Nations” do what they have to do and what they perceive as “necessary”. A nation is like a person. It fights to survive. Given the history, Britain has been WRONG. Wrong to support Arabs. Wrong to stand back and be “neutral”. Whether you “believe” in it or not, Christianity is the largest faith in the world. Brits complain about muslims taking over THEIR country. On top of everything else, Jesus was a JEW. Part of the population of the Kingdom of Israel. How difficult is it to see Arabs/muslims as greedy, grasping, hate-driven fanatics? They are happy to kill or maim anyone. And I do mean ANYONE. That means YOU.

    Try some history. There are no such things as “palestinians”. There is no such country as “palestine”. There never has been. Gaza is a terrorist enclave. Mostly dedicated to attacking Israel. With no thought for ordinary people. Either in Gaza or Israel. Israel “gave” Gaza to the Arabs. They had no need to. And the response? Gaza/Hamas tries to kill Israelis and Israel.

    I'm not prepared to see Israel as an enemy simply because they provided technical support to argieland. So did France. So did the Soviet Union. So did Peru and Brazil.

    Britain needs to forget oil and do what we did in 1948. What was RIGHT! There is NO Arab country that has ever done anything except promote fanatical hatred. Britain needs to give Israel the support that it deserves. For maintaining honesty, integrity, democracy.

    Dec 12th, 2012 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @28 You seem to have a very polarised view of the situation, and so we are going to have to agree to differ on this point.

    I stand with the evidence, which is that Israel has gone out of its way to support the opponents of the British and the British Armed Forces, causing deaths to the servicemen and people's of my nation. They gave the terrorists state funerals and ultimately deny the rights of the people of the Falkland islands to even exist as a people. That is not democracy, nor is it the actions of an ally.

    If you want to be their best chum, then I can only advise you to watch your back.

    Good luck.

    Dec 12th, 2012 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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