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Temporary relief for Clarin Group; case delayed for another two months

Wednesday, December 19th 2012 - 06:39 UTC
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Argentine media group Clarin SA was granted temporary relief on Tuesday from the government's effort to implement a media law that would force the conglomerate to sell some of its most profitable assets. Read full article

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  • toxictaxitrader2

    I cant keep up,whats next?an appeal against the appeal?still looks like the Clarin will still be going strong when the 2013 elections come around,maybe the next presidential elections ?

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    Why would Clarin divest its most profitable assets? If push comes to shove they should concentrate on ensuring the highest return on capital employed in the assets that remain. It could eventually be good for shareholders if Clarin uses it as an opportunity to focus on what they are best at.

    On the political side it is clearly a law brought in by the president to shut them up.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • willi1

    the housewife ck has to stick her colt back into the holster - and make a counter-appeal. in the meantime clarin can tell the people how ck wanted to hang them.
    in our nazi times around 1933 to 1945 we never had such a pistol girl in the government.
    but judge Alfonso must be questioned if he is quite clear in his brain. why didn´t he give his first sentence free for appeal immediately? possibly ck had cut off the microphone...

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    Simon68 made a good point about this. The president claims that Clarin and some all powerall kingmaker in Argentina with power to topple a government at a whim. During the last elections, Clarin was at the height of its power and the election was a cakewalk for CFK. As such, this is purely a move to disband an organisation which is capable of being a focal point for any organisation which may arise in the future...

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @4 agreed. She's basically doing the same as Mao when he closed all the tea-shops, because that was where he had spent all his time professing marxism, and academics met to discuss anti-government topics. He was simply removing the tools that he used to rise, and would allow others to rise against him.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    I think this is purely a personal vendetta of CFKC's. Her 'beloved' Nestor granted the licences she wants to revoke. Her paranoia is rampant.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 10:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GeoffWard2

    “..... a media law that would force the conglomerate to sell some of its most profitable assets.”

    What right does the Government have to auction off the assets of a private company?
    Even with this 'law', the company has the right to dispose of its own assets.
    And why should the law specify that *only the most profitable* must be sold off?

    This is terrible law and terrible application of political power. The judiciary should - rightly - distance itself from such blatant political manipulation.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 01:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @7 the law basically needs to allow KFC to force Clarin to sell the assets to some La Campora terroristas for next to nothing. Then La Campora can start their own TV show called 'FEAR Quebracha' which will be piped into schools 24/7.

    In return, the frump will probably get extra dollars to offshore and her vendetta will be complete.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Orbit

    Hi Think. Weren't you claiming this as a CFK victory on Saturday ? Another example of CFK and her “successful lawyer” career which made her millions... Pre-judging Griesa and not thinking there might be an appeal in this case shows razor sharp legal skills don't you think ?

    Does make you wonder where her millions came from though doesn't it? Could it be Nestor and the 30 mortgages he was allowed to take out during military rule, or could it be the *odd* penny has gone astray from public finances. Perish the thought Think, perish the thought !

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Where are our argies and malvinistas? Why aren't they here explaining how this is all part of CFK's “cunning” plan? Is she more concerned about getting kicked out of the IMF, the G20 and any other financial organisation?

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (4) Welsh Wizard

    You say:
    “..... this is purely a move to disband an organisation which is capable of being a focal point for any organisation which may arise in the future...”

    I say:
    Paraphrasing your words..........:
    This is a partly a move to disband an organization that has been the focal point for every Military Coup endured by my Country during the past sixty (60) years .....
    High time to disband such an organization......

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    Why do you think Nestor Kirchner was such a supporter of Clarin, granting the licences that are now being revoked by CFKC?

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @12 same reason why Nestor et al were massive fans of YPF being sold off to the public (making them $520mil), which was summarily revoked by the frumpmeister who claimed such an idea was against Nestor's masterplan (earning them $Nmil).

    am i close?.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • emerald

    There will be needed the minimal military operation not civilian ones to Clarin.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    You know, I wonder, Nestor was very cosy with Clarin owners with regular amiable lunches, lucrative licences being given to them etc. Do you think it might have been possible that Nestor was operating against CFKC behind the scenes? I mean, he needed her to stand in for him for one term but he certainly didn't want her to be so popular that he couldn't take up the reins again. That was always the plan until Nestor died suddenly. Maybe he was complicit in the Clarin backlash against CFKC when she made that disastrous decision to take on the farmers?
    And Fat Max was only a very minor player until Nestor died and he and his merry band of thugs were unleashed. Then CFKC sacked just about everyone Nestor trusted.
    That family was very divided. There is something slightly looney but very personal about CFKC's obsession over bringing Clarin down.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    @15

    Intriguing. Its possible.

    @11

    ---This is a partly a move to disband an organization that has been the focal point for every Military Coup endured by my Country during the past sixty (60) years .....----

    But there hasnt been a military coup in the last 30 yrs ... Seems a bit over dramatic. In a country as unstable as Argentina 30 years is a long time. Let it go. Things have moved on.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    At this rate, it doesn’t look like this is going to be enforced this side of a re-re-election.

    Shouldn’t there be another “per saltum” application sometime soon. The law that was supposed to end the endless delays!

    Or can we expect more legislation soon, possibly involving oaths of loyalty!

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • emerald

    You are all know nothing about Clarin
    or
    You are all making disinformation/distraction.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @18 La campora terrorista needs to learn some english, methinks.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    I know this would not have happened if Clarin had remained a supporter of CFK.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tobers

    @20

    Can any CFK supporter deny that? Thats the acid test to the legitimacy of this anti media law. The answer is quite simply that the gov. would NOT be pursuing this if it Clarin was supportive of them.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @11 Once again we have Stink talking about HIS country, whilst he lives in another and know fook all about whats going on

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • emerald

    *19*
    don't shriek vainly..no none hear !
    only 11 persons visited this web site today by now,

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrolldamus The 3rd

    Just another day in filthy, disease-laden UK/Europe:

    http://en.mercopress.com/2012/12/19/schmallenberg-disease-hitting-lambs-and-calves-spreads-to-all-england-and-wales

    Sure explains the brains of the European posters here... I wonder if they were born with one hemisphere, or just the brain stem.

    Between the disease and inbreeding, then you wonder why all these mass shootings happen in Norway, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, USA, etc...

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @24 Language-leech, you want to be any less obvious in your divergence from the topic?

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 08:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrolldamus The 3rd

    Your laconic circumlocution is a non-denial denial, which means my observation was acrid yet truthful.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    Her torment continues longer than she bargained for...recork that champagne...
    scrote throat.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @26 I understand you're desperate to generate discussion so you can learn some english, try out some words and all that. But you just chose the wrong thread. You ended up looking a bit of a tit talking about animal illness on a thread about government destruction of the free press.

    Try aligning your comments to the current topic and people might talk to you more.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrolldamus The 3rd

    I think it was necessary to explain the quality of the commentary by the antis.

    Now that everyone understands the causes (European/North American mutants at large), then clemency and forbearance by us Argentines becomes a jot easier.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @29 I think you need to read 'The way of the argentine: the cult of the mullet' by Juan Peron and foreword by Adolf Hitler. It will show you that Argentines are pretty much the polar opposite of what you are routinely suggesting.

    Firstly, they lack any kind of morality, diplomacy and are utterly without virtues. Talking about cattle on a thread showing authoritarianism at work isn't going to change anyone's mind on that front.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Leiard

    @29
    Hi number 1 Argentinian plonker

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrolldamus The 3rd

    @30

    But all our kids come home alive from school, uni, or a fieldtrip to an island, and our farm animals have two eyes, four legs and a tail... and not two heads, four tails, and an eye.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @32 ... no they don't. Your brown kids starve outside their homes, the white kids either end up being press-ganged into becoming la campora terroristas or they get shot by police officers at a party.

    I know you're told sunny stories in school, about Maximo delivering you to a socialist utopia, but the reality is simply that he's self obsessed and surrounded by a cult of personality.

    Get over it, we all did.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrolldamus The 3rd

    Tell me Greek Yoghurt, when you truss fowl for the holidays up there, do you tie up the left leg with the middle leg, or the right leg to the middle leg? And then do you just seek out the ones with an extra pair of wings?

    See here in Argentina we have really boring poultry, just two legs and two wings per bird.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @34 I'm glad you have a healthy interest in cooking. However, it looks more likely that you're going to be cooking up shoes and tree-bark, rather than a goose this year.

    Does Nestoranity have a festival of lights like Christmas? What do you call it?

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Nostrolldamus The 3rd

    The malls are full in Mendoza, we are the 6th largest wine producer on Earth, home of the world's largest hydro and eolic tech and industry company, have the two biggest bottled water companies in South America (villaviencio/eco de los andes), big ski resort industry, booming adventure tourism, highest summit on Earth outside Nepal/India, big oil production and a huge refinery plus huge proven future oil reserves, educated people from world-known eye institutes to nuclear sciences, large organic fruit industry, apiculture in the south, one of the top olive oil makers, garlic exporter, and the only province with a domestic airplane manufacturer.

    Well diversified economy, and we haven't even touched our hard-mineral resources.

    Nice.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    LOL! How does a boy living in his parent's basement, not earning, not producing, not working, proudly poor and with a personality disorder contribute to the success of Mendoza? Just wondering.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @37 I still want to know what the nestoranity festival of lights is called. I'm pretty sure it'll have some garbled nonsense about him being born on a mountain and 13 rainbows appearing and all that. He just doesn't seem to want to talk about it, instead choosing to dress up his crime filled home as some kind of utopia.

    I don't think he knows how tiresome it gets either.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @38 Still, sweet that he hangs on the coat tails of the success of other just because he happened to be born in the vicinity. ”We' have done this, 'we' have achieved that. He has done absolutely nothing of merit.

    Dec 19th, 2012 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    @11 Think

    Point taken and I understand Clarin's role but why them was Nestor so willing to grant these extra licences, it is not as if they are from different political ideologies. Further more, since Nestor granted these licences the Kirchnerists have grown in power and popularity. The only thing I can point to is the farmers’ dispute. Is CFK going to prosecute Clarin for its role in helping the dictatorship? If not, why not?

    Dec 20th, 2012 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    A stay of execution thats all...

    Dec 24th, 2012 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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