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HMS Edinburgh leaves the Falklands for the last time
Known as the ‘Fortress of the Sea’, HMS Edinburgh is the largest and the last Type 42 destroyer to serve in the Royal Navy. She finished her six month tour of the South Atlantic Islands this week and is due to be decommissioned in June, but before heading north again Falkland Islands residents were given the opportunity to have a peek on board. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesSave journey home, job well done. May the next ship bear your name with pride.
Feb 09th, 2013 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice to see HMS Protector in Montevideo harbour
Feb 09th, 2013 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 02 Rooter
Feb 09th, 2013 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0But I thought Uruguay supported Argentina over the Falklands so therefore would not allow a UK military ship into port.
It looks like Uruguay doesn't really support Argentina over the Falklands at all. Here's what Uruguay have sanctioned lately:
- Free trade between the two countries
- Chamber of Commerce visit to the Falklands
- Cargo flights between the countries
- Uruguayan politicians attending to observe the referendum
- British war ships - in the role of defence of the islands- visiting Montevideo port
It's the same as the Bloggs family's support for Arsenal Football Club. We wear the rip-off T-shirts but the club has received no actual support from us at all.
Is a type 23 of less capability than a type 42?
Feb 09th, 2013 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If so replacing a type 45 with a type 42 and then a type 23 means we are de-militarising the South Atlantic, right?
We are obviously trying to relieve the frosty atmosphere by bringing in an icebreaker
Feb 09th, 2013 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 different capabilities just as dangerous, probably more suited to fookin off the Rg navy (dont laugh) with her Harpoon missles.
Feb 09th, 2013 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0HMS Edinburgh fair winds and following seas old girl
The Type 42 Destroyer has been replaced by the larger Type 45, the first of its class was commissioned in July 2009. The Type 23 is a Frigate not a Destroyer and I believe that 13 of this class is serving with the Royal Navy. For the role in the South Atlantic, it appears that the British Admiralty believes that the Type 23 Frigate can perform the functions of the Type 42 Destroyer. The Argentines have no comparable surface ship.
Feb 09th, 2013 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It should be noted by objective observers - a point that has been seconded by many British officers who fought in the Falklands War - that the Argentine Air Force was courageous and flew the equivilant of suicide missions and that many of the their Exocets were hits or near misses but failed to explode. (This is an entirely different discussion.) Had these missiles achieved their desired effect, the outcome may have been different. Today the Argentine air assets are degraded and the British counter-air defense assets improved.
@4 Amazingly, the Type 23 frigate is bigger than the Type 42 destroyer. It's longer, wider, deeper and weighs more. And, as slattzzz says, it carries the Harpoon anti-ship missiles. In addition to Sea Wolf anti-air missiles and anti-submarine torpedoes. They carry the same main gun and armed helicopter. The Type 23 may also have four times as many “light” weapons.
Feb 09th, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Type 23 is a far more capable ship and is several generations newer than the 42's. I have served on both, 4 years on a 23 and 2 years on a 42.
Feb 09th, 2013 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Type 23 was always designed to function in deep water as a submarine hunter however it has a very sophisticated air defense in the form of Sea Wolf. It is also fitted with Harpoon for ship attack and the ubiquitous 4'5 gun.
The Type 23 was the first of the stealth class of RN ships effectively and is very difficult to detect due to how quite it is and its special surfaces.
Essentially in a fight between a 23 and a 42, the 23 wins every time.
The 23's are also a far nicer place to live for sailors. The 42's were extremely loud, hot confined ships and the 23's are virtually silent even in cruising stations and far, far nicer to live in.
When we did NATO training, the Type 23 proved so good at winning we were often asked to sit out of exercises involving other nations.
@9 Only had 42's xect 5 years on York 3 on Gloucester, can't really compare as the only time I went on a 23 was a call rould lol. Couldn't beat 22 batch 3's for accomodation imo
Feb 09th, 2013 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah 22's were awesome bits of kit but by all accounts ferociously expensive to run.
Feb 09th, 2013 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The 45's looks absolutely lethal. I have seen a few in pompey and they are very big for their class.
@11 in pompey july for reunion and got a call round on Diamond if she's in
Feb 09th, 2013 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds good! I live just outside of pompey. I left the mob and moved to my home city (Stoke) and then through a job offer returned to pompey...
Feb 09th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 i was bought up in Locksheath mum still lives there you going to type 42 reunion at excellent?
Feb 09th, 2013 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nah, I appreciate them and what they've done but I've left all of that behind now.
Feb 09th, 2013 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 Joe Bloggs
Feb 09th, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Joe!!! You bunch of glory chasers!!! Arsenal??? Surely you should be supporting such time honoured teams as Nottingham Forest or huh......erm, erm Notts County??? on second thoughts maybe you would be better where you are.......
1 reality check
It is sad to see another fine ship completing it's last tour and being de-commisioned. So, as you have already said, a job well done. The Royal Navy, even though it is too small, is THE BEST in the world and the crew should be proud of the service they have done. God speed.
@16 correct the crew should rightly be proud
Feb 09th, 2013 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 HMS Edinburgh. Fortress of the Sea. You have represented Britain admirably. You have protected. To the crew: Every day of your service has been exemplary. You have done your duty. And more. In the best traditions of the Royal Navy. Britain is proud of every one of you. God speed your voyage home!
Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@18 well said matey
Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 018 Brian
Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“God speed your voyage home!”
Home?
Helloooo Turkey :-)))
@20 well better getting a few mill in scrap than sinking alongside eh? Numpty
Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MA
Feb 09th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder if she saw any of the ARA whilst she was down there, suspect not, been avoiding the RN for 30 years. Those that can sail that is.
@22 Rumour has it another one had to limp home knackered
Feb 09th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Christ they are a danger to international navigation, should not be allowed to put to sea without supervision. Slatzzz, isn't there some maritime organisation that posts maritime warnings? Can see it now, signal to all vessels in the South Atlantic, “Be aware ARA Rust bucket, just put to sea, all vessels advised be prepared to offer assistance.”
Feb 09th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@24 yep there is mate navigational warnings are signalled all the time (every 24 hours) and most of them have rgenweener attached to them
Feb 09th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 016
Feb 09th, 2013 - 10:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hi too old. I have a bit of a soft spot for the Spire-rites I have to say.
I hope you're having a good weekend.
Marcos- Your submarines cannot dive- to dangerous as they are in such poor maintenance and most of your ocean going ships dare not leave the sight of land as due to the poor state of safety equipment onboard the officers fear lawsuits from the sailors families if there is an accident.
Feb 10th, 2013 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0None have test fired a missile system for several years - which means those missile systems are unrelaible and dangerous for the ARA let alone anyone else!
Yes the RN does decommission ships when they need to be replaced. It then sells them for scrap or use as a target.
Your famous navy - what does it do?
It lets them roll over and sink in the naval base!!!!!!!!!!!
http://falklandsnews.wordpress.com/2013/02/10/argentinas-claim-to-the-falklands-a-fantasy-says-hague/
Feb 10th, 2013 - 01:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
26 Days to the FALKLANDS REFERENDUM
Feb 10th, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0SELF DETERMINATION
No need for any argi bargi it IS FACT IT IS GOING AHEAD
26 Joe Bloggs
Feb 10th, 2013 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good weekend?? well it's the first one since Christmas that I am not working so Yep!!! it's a good one. Offspring No1 is in his bedroom on the X-Box as we speak... Offspring No2 is going into Nottingham with Mrs Tooold so yes it is a good weekend.
It's raining at the moment and snow is expected by this afternoon but who cares!!! The missus has made a killer Lasagne so it's all good!!
I hope you and your family are well..... Now, we are all looking forward to the result of the referendum in March
Go Falklands, go!!!!!
“Go Falklands, go!!!!!”
Feb 10th, 2013 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All behind you in Canada, too.
GO Falklands!!!!
“Go back to England Falklands, go!!!!!”
Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All behind your return to England in Argentina, too.
Malvinas doesn't have to “go” anywhere, still a few kilometers off our beautiful mainland.
too much show-off from a country that is 2 trillon in DEBT!
Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah. so the Mythical Malvinas is located in the River Plate. What is it like Brigadoon? only appears when there is a full moon, mist on the river and Mars is in conjunction with Venus?
Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 029, 30, 31
Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THANKS
32
NO THANKS. WE'RE FINE WHERE WE ARE.
can @35 upgrade the Islands internet....the Malvina House looks so poor
Feb 10th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0189 years and nothing to show off
But would even a Type 23 frigate dare to go up against the Flagship of the Argentinian fleet?
Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only to serve a summons.
Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As the sun goes down, the nasty gutter rats come out to condemn the brits,
Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To scare to face us,
To scared to fight us,
To scared to back it up,
Nope these tough little rodents just come out at dusk and spread their liar and dehisces all over the place,
And Soddy offy at day break.
Either back it up
Or
Go home insulting cowards
.
Sussie is jealous because her beloved Comodora Rivadavia has nothing as good as this. But it does have a third rate lady's hairdressers.
Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 What a pity you spoil it by being there!
Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 No, the “Malvinas” are between Oz and Neverland. Strangely, I remember Dorothy and Wendy. Even Tinker Bell. I don't remember anything called “Cristina”.
36
Feb 10th, 2013 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How do you remember all of your passwords Sussie? Especially considering how mentally retarded you are.
@42 joe bloggs aka troy tempest aka yankee boy aka kelper about argie the poet engineer abroad uk owns argentina we have your fragata
Feb 10th, 2013 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0simon68zhivago yensere-ly skare isolde condorito chicureo and on and on and on.....nice web site to drop more crap!
42 Joe Bloggs
Feb 10th, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think that sussieUS has blown a gasket..... her post at 43 has me puzzled......
43 slatz
Sussie dear, if you are going to insult someone you have to use an insult or two you know??? you see what I'm saying here?
It's no use talking if no one can understand you, although I know that in your case, no one will ever be able to understand you.
why they keep talking about SussieUS?
Feb 10th, 2013 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because the UK team don't give a shit about the islands or the UK navy
45 slatz & 46 ann_25
Feb 10th, 2013 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“It's no use talking if no one can understand you”
Case in point....... well done SussieUS!! Couldn't have put it better myself.
It's funny because the fakers makes no sense in exactly the same way which gives away the persons single identity.
Feb 10th, 2013 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's also funny because he goes to the trouble of registering many user accounts only to give himself away in one sentence.
Anyway, I hope there is another HMS Edinburgh soon!
if they have no chance now,
Feb 11th, 2013 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0they will never have , when the royal navy gets back up to strenth.
is very funny the UK Team place many comments under many screen names to make the argentinian feel “acorralados”.
Feb 11th, 2013 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Most argentinians don't give a shit about the UK!
@48 Xect
Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ funny because he goes to the trouble of registering many user accounts only to give himself away in one sentence. ”
It makes one think that the people attracted to trolling, both privately and professionally (La Campora), are of the 'attention-whore' variety.
They seem to say anything to elicit a response. I thought that because of their fee-schedule, no response=no pay.
However, unless they employ types like Sussie to throw up flak to put legitimate discussion into disarray, making refuting the Argie message too difficult and time-intensive, I would say that he is an Independent looking for attention.
PH is simply too emotionally damaged to behave in any normal manner, but he does follow the La Campora-Peronist-Nacionalista, party-line.
@ 51 troy tempest
Feb 11th, 2013 - 01:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0it seems SussieUS is the winner....
@52
Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0we all know that!
that troy tempest is an idiot!
Feb 11th, 2013 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0troy tempest is a wimp!
Feb 11th, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Troy Tempest is MINE!
Feb 11th, 2013 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0one smelly fishing boat? is that all you got little pipers ? USA has hundreds of those, by the way I'm from U-S-A hell yeah!!!
Feb 12th, 2013 - 12:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ captain poppy YOU ARE NOT FROM THE USA!
Feb 12th, 2013 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sussie if you like using other peoples name at least talk some sense you halfwit, everyone knows it's by the complete and utter crap you spout you so why bother? I've reported you by the way.
Feb 12th, 2013 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0“”Malvinas doesn't have to “go” anywhere, still a few kilometers off our beautiful mainland.“””
Feb 12th, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you mean off the stolen Patagonian coastline? within which are buried the tens of thousands of indigenous people that Argentina systematically butchered during the rabid colonial expansion of Argentina?
(I guess they dont teach you that bit in CFK land)
Still waiting for some proof from any Argentinean about these nukes in the Falklands.... still not holding my breath. ;-)
@37
Feb 12th, 2013 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that the LIBERTAD?
@57
Keep up Jonus ( you plonker ) Captain P0ppy ( note with a “ 0” ) Zero is an ARGENTINIAN TROLL
@58
Feb 12th, 2013 - 11:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so what, i keep posting anyway. you have the choice to ignore the comments you don't like. fair enough.
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