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Cameron, ‘the most robust PM in the Falklands’ issue in the last 30 years’, says Professor Dodds

Wednesday, February 27th 2013 - 20:14 UTC
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Britain went to war over the Falkland Islands over thirty years ago when the Argentine military invaded the Islands, but the issue of sovereignty disputed by Argentina has never really gone away. Germany’s Deutsche Welle looks at the current UK government's policy towards the Falklands and the coming referendum, in an interview with Klaus Dodds, Professor of Geopolitics at Royal Holloway, University of London. Read full article


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  • LEPRecon

    Simon Winchester doesn't believe defending the Falklands from a brutal murderous country is worth dying for.

    If he doesn't believe defending freedom is worth dying for, I doubt he feels anything is worth dying for.

    The cost of Freedom has always been paid in blood. Mr Winchester should remember how many men and women have died to ensure his freedom. Then he should go and hang his head in shame for making such comments.

    As for the article above, there are significant errors in it, the most blatant being that the UK cannot return the Islands to Argentina, because they have never been Argentine.

    Face it, colonialism is a thing of the past. Argentina should bury its colonial ambitions and look towards making their own country a success without looking in envy at other peoples land.

    In the 21st century only self-determination matters. That self-determination will be expressed by the Islanders in March this year.

    Feb 27th, 2013 - 08:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    There seems to be realization amongst intelligent thinking Rgs that KFC and Tinman are following the worst strategy possible. Cameron the Falkanders and Hague are following precisely the correct strategy, firm on sovereignty, measured, adult and democratic. Winchester, and his acolites are thankfully a tiny unrepresentative minority, ignored by everyone.

    At last there seem to be some sensible Rgs appearing here that you can actually have a discussion with. The noxious trolls are clearly in decline.

    Feb 27th, 2013 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    “Britain's refusal to return the territories to Argentina” ???

    may we be reminded, firstly To have something returned you once had to own it!
    secondly,it is not the for The UK or any other country to decide the fate of The Falklanders that is their choice, there is a little issue of The human rights of the Falklanders who live there, we wouldnt want another “diego garcia” on our hands would we :) as was the argentine plan in 1982 to eject The Falkland population by force, bearing in mind the falklanders have existed on their islands for a far longer than the mauritian workers had before accepting compensation to move back to their homeland mauritius and leaving the island as it was before they arrived,
    come to think about it The falklands Islands are older that Argentina......and far richer per person :)


    Feb 27th, 2013 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    and argentinas gdp??? :))) enough said.
    why would they want to leave THEIR beautiful islands?,
    unlike argentina who were dying to get into planes.....oooops, did i go there??


    Feb 27th, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    “We do not like the whisper British liar”

    The British foreign secretary, William Hague, interviewed by Clarin correspondent in London, said that “the current Argentine government about a way that is counterproductive to dialogue and understanding over the Malvinas Islands,” adding later that, “other Argentine governments have come to a more constructive dialogue ”and that“ the islanders must be present at the negotiations, if it comes to the islands. ”
    It also says that “in the modern world, we believe in self-determination in a democratic society”.How strange to understand these Brits! ... to produce almost all the best musicians of history emparentares emerged clearly an issue in our land: “We are the pirates ...” In praise previous Argentine governments, as is described by the correspondent-smile when appointing Di Tella and mistreat our current government because it allows dialogue in the presence of the islanders.
    I wonder, and I ask readers to support or not the current government: Who are the islanders? I have my answer. Neither more nor less than the descendants of the invaders. You certainly have no differences with that assessment. What about the self-determination of peoples, in this case of the Malvinas-means you have to respect the vote of the heirs of those who invaded our lands and allow them to be part of the dialogue?
    What do you think will be the answer to your vote islanders usurpers, Sir William? You do not like that the Argentine people loudly claiming their true rights. Nor do we like the eternal “whisper liar” to which we are subjected by the British Malvinas.

    Ricardo Borro

    Feb 27th, 2013 - 09:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    More toilet roll anyone?? see RAUL!

    Feb 27th, 2013 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    This is a clearly bias piece to anyone with any interest in the subject, but I must say it has been cleverly written. Or maybe I'm just cynical, and “colonial exploits” make better print than cold hard facts.


    @6 Raul: And I ask you, who are the Argentinians? I have my answer. Neither more nor less than the descendants of the invaders (3% is not statistically significant).

    Klaus Dodds: “One shouldn't underestimate the extraordinary power of war memories,” said Dodds.
    ”The Falklands veterans and the way in which we commemorate that particular campaign are now part of British public life. So for example, when we have Remembrance Sunday in November, the Falklands campaign is part of Britain's official war memories, alongside World War One and World War Two”.

    This revisionist history line, that the UK would only be willing to fight for the Falklands BECAUSE we fought for them before does not make any sense. It opens up the question, why did we fight for them in 1982 then? The truth is that the UK backs the Falklanders because it is the right thing to do. No one in the UK would say, 'How dare you? British soldiers died for that land!', if the Falklanders chose to go it alone and moved for independence, or even chose to intergrate themselves into SA state.

    Simon Winchester: “It's simply not worth people dying for, and that's what I want to avoid.”

    I wonder if he would call the police if armed squatters took his house off him? Is it really worth people dying for?

    Feb 27th, 2013 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Simon Winchester is nothing but the crap on the pavement we walk on and maybe should go live among the Argentines, maybe he would enjoy their brutal regimes ways of existence. To call the Islands the most miserable country on the planet could not be further from the truth but of course this excuse for an individual would not know the truth if it jumped up and bit his face of. Just another journalist out there to make a fast buck. He obviously refuses to accept that people died to give him his freedom. He also has a short memory of his time in 1982 when “he was one of the first journalists to arrive on the Falkland Islands after it had been invaded. He was arrested for “spying” and imprisoned by the Argentines for three months.”

    So much for his reality of hospitality of Falkland islanders

    Feb 27th, 2013 - 10:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    Territorial integrity compromised? Dodds, you clearly have not researched the falkland's history and just look at the map, for heavens sake, does britain compromise france's territorial integrity by being just 21 miles away? Argentina wants south georgina, the SSI, a slice of antartica, where does their perimeter end?
    Winchester, his opinion is not worth diddly squat, perhaps his stay in argentina exposed him to brainwashing history lessons.
    The article gets a few points right... british public opinion, cameron's robustness.
    Argentina's claims are pure fantasy and will remain so unless the islanders change their minds and I can't see that happening after the juvenial hypocritical spite from CFK and her followers

    @4 fair_easy
    Islanders have a higher GDP per capita than argentines, so more likely to have those things than argentines.

    Feb 27th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    5 Raul

    The issue is purely a legal one, the UK has the legal sovereignty, therefor the islanders have the right under the ICJ rulings to self-determination. In addition Argentina has acquiesced by her tacit acceptance of the referendum; i.e. she has taken no legal steps to prevent it.

    Feb 27th, 2013 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Who gives a flying fuck about the goodwill of Argentina you twat!

    What good will?

    Mans a prize prick. If there was an invasion and we fought back we risk losing their good will. Duh! Tell me I am reading this wrong, no one could be that fucking stupid!

    Feb 27th, 2013 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @12 Hi Sussie
    still not gone to bed yet

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    ut whilst 30 years ago, Britain did enjoy the support of its allies, notably the United States, the UK government has less international support these days for its “colonial exploits”. Most international governments are reluctant to support any hint of colonialism, and Britain's refusal to return the territories to Argentina, thus restoring its territorial integrity, has proved contentious in some quarters.
    Anyway who is a terrorist country that will be destroyed!
    uk is FINISHED!

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 12:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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  • DanyBerger

    I just wonder if would be a new war if Britons will use pyjamas as uniform this time?

    I guess that would be very difficult for them to run...

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    What like they ran last time you mean?


    Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Lol @ DunnyBurger.

    The only running the British do is in chasing Argentine soldiers running away, like last time! Do you remember the Argentine soldiers who vastly outnumbered the British running away whilst showing the white flag Danny?

    We do.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 07:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15


    No more than your muslim population

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    Two major powers excuse me?
    Since when was argentina a power outside its own ego?

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @5 Raul,
    You have no rights here, Raul.
    Do not delude yourself.
    We don't care if you like it or not.
    Thats just the way it is......................and it's going to stay that way.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    In these days of global uncertainty, it is increasingly important for someone to stand against terrorist, murderous, genocidal, neo-imperialist, neo-colonialist, failed states. And who better to do this than a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council? A country that stood against the imperialist, colonialist ambitions of the Corsican upstart, Napoleon. A country that stood against the imperialist, colonialist ambitions of the weak, corrupt and incompetent Spanish kings, A country that stood against the imperialist, colonialist ambitions of a comic book German kaiser. A country that stood against the imperialist, colonialist, tyrannical, psychotic and maniacal ambitions of Adolf Hitler. And now, in the 21st century, where does the danger lie? In a third-rate state with a failed economy that only pays lip service to democracy but can trace its origins back to France, Germany, Italy and Spain. A state that “exists” in South America through invasion, occupation, genocide, murder and theft. A state that has pursued policies of murder and theft for about two hundred years. It has, over time and in one way or another, attacked virtually every one of its neighbours. Who's public rantings most closely resemble those of Hitler! Who's public face is that of carefully-staged mass rallies. Just like Hitler. And where did the rats of nazi germany run to? Come to think of it, where does the name Kirchner come from? It may well be that it will fall to Britain, once again, to rid the world of a menace to peace! No-one should ever forget that there is only one result to appeasement. Britain will not make that mistake again!

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Huntsman Extraordinaire

    “If there was an attack against the Falkland Islands today, I think Britain would be very hard-pressed to fight against an invading force,” Winchester told DW. “And [Britain] would also lose the goodwill of not just Argentina … but the other Latin American countries that would be almost universally hostile, as would the United States.”

    Um... wha?!

    Goodwill - Argentina?

    Whos side would countries like Uruguay choose REALLY. USA will remain as neutral as always; that is until one of their oil tankers gets attacked by the RGs when the good old peeps of the Falklands start pumping oil (don't mess with the USA's oil - they don't like that, not one bit).

    Also the we would lose part of the comment... I don't get that. I mean yeah our armed forces are not huge, but then it doesn't need to be. What we lack in numbers we more than make up for in quality of training and outstanding equipment. The stuff our armed forces use these days is amazing; half of it the USA dreams to have (eg. Rapier, S10 resperators, etc *cough, cough*). Our military budget is 2nd in the world if you take it by populus; where the hell does he think all that money goes?! We could quite easily skimp the quality and hire a ton of people to bolster the numbers to make us look more formidable for fools like him if the need was there - theres plenty of young people out of work that would probably go for it!

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia I don't think you should worry about war over Las Malvinas. The UK will hand back the islands to Argentina peacefully.

    The errors you identify in the article have been made because the interviewer is German. In Germany Las Malvinas are regarded as part of Argentina.

    I think Simon Winchester's comment is prescient, don't you. I don't think the UK can afford to earn the hostility of America.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    “ and Britain's refusal to return the territories to Argentina, thus restoring its territorial integrity, has proved contentious in some quarters.”

    What territorial integrity? This could only apply to “enclaves” - the Falkland Islands have never been part of Argentina's continental limits.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    10 Terence Hill

    You have eyes and not want to see, have ears and do not want to hear.

    UK has no legal sovereignty. His occupation is illegal since 1833.
    International law clearly states that it is a conflict of sovereignty. Your fundamental problem is that you do not want to see or recognize that there are multilateral bodies like the United Nations, which go hand in hand with international law, which clearly specify that it is a sovereignty dispute. No self-determination.
    You do not want to comply with international law, do not want to comply with the resolution of the Decolonization Committee of the UN and not the United Nations Resolution 2065 of 1965, ratified by later resolutions 1973 (3160, XXVIII) 1976 (31/49) . After the war the Resolution 1982 (37/9), 1983 (38/12), 1984 (39/6), 1985 (40/21), 1986 (41/40), 1987 (42/19) and 1988 (43/25). They all declare the existence of a sovereignty dispute. No self-determination.
    Do not want to understand that international law has created the Resolution of the Assembly of the United Nations (2065) and decolonization committee to resolve a conflict of sovereignty created by colonialism and imperialism in the UK. Of the 16 cases of colonialism in the world, 16 are generated by the UK.
    I always forget about this concept. The UN resolutions, international law, to made to met and were created to solve international disputes peacefully and no violence.

    Besides ..... Argentina has paved by their tacit acceptance of the referendum, ie, it has not taken legal action to prevent it.

    Another mistake yours. You have eyes but do not want to see. Read the following link:

    Political ploy 'referendum' C24 Malvinas chair calls'; Argentine president praises.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Hand what back, the only thing we are likely to hand back is the landmines that your cowardly troops planted in our islands,.... On the tip of a missile targeted at our clock, you know, the one covered in grafitti. You will have to change your stance from deadly enemy to friend before we let you back on our islands. A couple of centuries when the oil and gas has been exhausted, that should do it.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    An Ecuadorean talking about political ploys, cue Julian Assange!

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    Raul. I do love it when the UN C24 committee, over step their mandate :p

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Resolution, Resolution! who wants to buy a Resolution! going cheap to our brothers in the Bolivarian Republics.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M's Bulldog

    The UK represent the guy at the door and Argentina are the chav (i.e. full of siht and mouth) The moral of the story is say nothing and just give them a just beating when they kick off.

    Then they can cry another river.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Raul.... That's a nice Amerindian name? Err... Only it isn't, its a Spanish name, the name of a Spanish speaking colonialist that wiped out the original inhabitants of the land it now squats in.

    11th March Raul, there is nothing you, your looney government, or a bunch of disgruntled UN nobodies can do about it. It's in the charter.


    Feb 28th, 2013 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    20 lsolde

    Do not be so sure. You arrogas the opinion of others. Many English not as you say. The world moves. Greatly underestimate those who work for peace and harmony in both the UK and Argentina. English colonialism and imperialism will disappear. It is only a matter of time.

    31 CaptainSilver

    March 11, Raul, there is nothing that you, your government looney, or a group of disgruntled UN nobody can do about it. It's in the letter.

    You are mocking the other passes. No problem. They can do many referendum is not a tautology Argentina prevents them. But international law and world opinion is against English colonialism and imperialism.

    Always keep in mind the Constitution Argentina:

    “La Nacion Argentina ratifies its legitimate and sovereignty over the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and the corresponding maritime and insular areas, being part of the national territory. Recovery of said territories and the full exercise of sovereignty , respecting the way of life of their inhabitants and according to the principles of international law are a permanent and unwavering goal of the Argentine people. ”

    CONSTITUTION ARGENTINA, Prime transitional provision


    Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • cornishair

    Why do Argentineans keep saying “English” ?

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    You have no sovereignty over any of these territories and you are not going to gain it either. What you write in your constitution is a matter for you, you can write what you like, looks like you do that already.
    Keep shouting and complaining, we'll just keep ignoring you, because we know there in nothing you can do about it. It's amusing watching you wind yourselves up, year in year out.
    Talks cheap and the way things are going with you, it looks like it is going to be the cheapest thing you posses.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    “ Your fundamental problem is that you do not want to see or recognize”

    Your fundamental pro0blem is exactly that, Raul. You keep stating resolutions that are non binding. They are non binding, Raul. And they do not even back your case.

    What rules are binging? The UN charter and it's mandates.

    What is the C-24's mandate:
    “in the process of decolonization there is no alternative to the colonizer's allowance of self-determination”

    What does the UN charter state in TWO of it's THREE chapters? That all people have the right to self-determination

    UN Chater > all. This is something you fail to understand at all points, Raul.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Sooner or later another conflict will break out,

    But the result will have far more reaching effects, than Britain and Argentina,

    It may very well be the beginning of the end of democracy,

    And whilst this is fantastic news for Argentina, china, Iran, north Korea, Africa, And the likes,

    Its very bad news for the Falklands, channel islands , Balearic islands ,Iceland , Ireland , Madagascar ,
    Corsica , Crete , Cyprus , Sardinia , Tenerife , Taiwan, all the islands in the west Indies,

    Caribbean, new Zealand , new foundland , and every other islands nation on the planet,
    And when these future dictators and tyrants get their fill,
    Then the countries on the mainland will be open to any body that wants to claim them,
    And the UN will be worthless as a new group or tyrants rule what was once DEMOCRACY,

    Ad does the likes of CFK and others give a fxck.
    Like fxck they do,
    They will get whatever they want,
    And the UN and other stupid do-gooders and bleeding hearts will be entirely responsible,

    And they will be among the fist to say, it was him not me,
    Be warned, you open the doors to the likes of CFK, and you open the doors to tyrants,
    And fxck democracy,
    Just my opinion..

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @36 briton,
    l agree with you, countryman.
    “Just my opinion”-- l value your opinion.
    @32 Raul,
    lt is only you(& Think!)who say that l'm arrogant.
    You only say that because l don't agree with you.
    So anyone who doesn't want OUR land to be colonised by Argentina is arrogant by your standards?
    l think that you are arrogant.
    l think that Argentina is arrogant.
    My brother is a mining engineer in Peru.
    He tells me that a lot of Peruvians say that Argentines are more arrogant than the Spanish.
    Peru is/was your ally, yet they consider your countrymen to be arrogant. lol lol!
    There is no English colonialism but you would like to have Argentine colonialism.
    Argentina has no moral, legitimate or legal rights to OUR lslands & the sooner that you realise this the better.
    Hopefully Argentina will implode & break up into smaller more manageable countries.
    lt is only a matter of time.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    37 lsolde

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hepatia No doubt after Las Malvinas are returned to Argentina you will be able to influence the national psyche so that it is more acceptable to the Peruvians.

    Feb 28th, 2013 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    I love the Peruvian stuff...

    I have a brother... ha ha

    Oops there is mine there... Hey do you know how arrogant argies are?

    yes says the Peruvian...

    They claim to be the 2nd military power in the world after US.
    They claim to be the bigger contributor to EU
    They claim to have invented the car, computer and that they have 2000 years of history and to be decedent of German stock...

    Mar 01st, 2013 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Clyde15

    They claim to be the 2nd military power in the world after US.
    really?. No we don't
    They claim to be the bigger contributor to EU
    really???? No we don't, Germany is !
    They claim to have invented the car, computer and that they have 2000 years of history and to be decedent of German stock...
    The car, No
    The electronic computer Yes
    2000 years of history No. About 10,000 but so has the rest of Europe.
    Descendants of Germanic stock, partly correct.
    Any more pearls of half-baked wisdom to share ?

    Mar 01st, 2013 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @40 Silly, silly Dany.
    l fail to see what you find funny about having a brother?
    As a matter of fact, l have 2 brothers & 1 sister.
    l suppose you are an only child.
    Your mum & dad would have said “mein gott” if thats what our children turn out like, we're not having anymore!
    True or false, Dany?
    We invented a lot of things, Dany & we are of part German stock.
    Frisian is the closest language to English.
    Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it not so.
    You are a raving ratbag, Dany. All malvinistas are.
    Look at OUR lsles & weep, Dany, for you'll NEVER get them(or the OIL!).

    Mar 01st, 2013 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DanyBerger

    Ha ha ha

    I was considering to buy a ticket to see funny comedians in BA but after reading your post I guess that I will save that money because they certainly will not be more funny than you guys.

    ha ha

    Mar 01st, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    25 Raul
    Here's an endorsement of UK sovereignty from the former president of the ICJ “But what the protests do not do is to defeat the British title, which was built up in other ways through Argentinas acquiescence.80”
    80. Rosalyn Higgins, ”Falklands and the Law,” Observer, 2 May 1982.
    'there is little reasonable doubt that Great Britain acquired definitive title to the Islands by prescription before 1982.'
    The Falklands (Malvinas) Islands: An International Law Analysis of the Dispute Between Argentina and Great Britain by James Francis Gravelle
    'In order to avoid extinguishing its claim, Argentina should have resorted to the ICJ rather than continuing to protest. The fact of the matter was that Argentina never submitted its claim to the Court for judgment, Its failure to do so, to take advantage of the requirements prescribed by international law, has quietly ceded sovereignty to Britain by extinctive prescription. Thus by 1982, Argentina's claim was extinguished.'
    The Falkland War : Britain versus the past in the South Atlantic /by Daniel K. Gibran.
    The UK is in compliance with international law, the resolutions of committees of the UN do not have the force of law, they are only advisements. The President of C24 is a biased political hack without any legal authority.

    Mar 01st, 2013 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @43 DanyBerger,
    ls that the best you can do, Danyboy?
    You don't like the truth, do you dear Dany?
    l'm glad that you find us funny.
    That might salve the pain that you will feel when OUR oil starts to flow.
    Suck it up Baby.

    Mar 01st, 2013 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Philippe

    Once and for all, Argentinian communazis ought to read Article 1, # 2 of the UN Charter, which states the following:
    “To develop friendly relations among nations based on respect for the principle of equal rights AND SELF-DETERMINATION OF PEOPLES, and to take other appropriate measures to strengthen universal peace;”

    Is there any doubt that Argentina's asinine policies violate the letter and the spirit of the UN Charter?


    PS. GA resolutions, like old res. 2065, are meant to entertain the third world gallery, and no more!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expat

    I dont understand whyRaul mentions the argentine constitution if nobody in thje argentine governement respects it.Nowadays argentina is a paria in the western world,nobody wants to do bussiness with it ,
    it is a sad country.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    “They claim to have invented the car, computer and that they have 2000 years of history and to be decedent of German stock...”

    The UK also claimed to have kicked your Nazi asses off the Falklands in 1982.
    But then again you claimed to have sunk HMS Invincible 5 times-did you like how our salvage team-repaired it every time :-)

    Mar 06th, 2013 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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