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“We want sovereignty over the Malvinas, but in peace”, Cristina Fernandez tells Congress

Saturday, March 2nd 2013 - 07:46 UTC
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Argentine president Cristina Fernandez again called on the UK to hold talks over the sovereignty of the Falklands/Malvinas Islands during her address to Congress on Friday when she delivered the ‘State of the Nation’ speech and formally opened the 131st legislative sessions. Read full article

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  • Escoses Doido

    LMFAO!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 07:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    For real? Celebrating a bunch of idiots who hijacked a plane and were sent packing straight home? Someone should send Mr Moon a link to this news story, so he understands the 'mentality' of CFK and her ilk. Somehow though I suspect he's already aware.

    The rest of what CFK says here is her usual garbage.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Agreed, - I think Mr Ban is well aware.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    3 hours and 40 minutes, god poor sods, must have felt like a life time. So that's the famous rag that flew for 36 hours at Stanley race course. What happened to the one that flew outside Government house for 72 days? Proably ripped into rags and used to clean up the shit from the floor is Stanley post office.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Idlehands

    It's Saturday - Yay. It's Groundhog Day - Yawn.

    Nice to see the government of Argentina now celebrates “kidnapping, having war weapons, compromising peace and dignity of the Nation, criminal association, public intimidation, piracy and qualified robbery”.

    Fantastic policies for a better Argentina.....

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Yes, “we had nothing to do with the Junta” but “we're able to overthrow them on a whim after the defeat, and then blame them for everything conveniently” but we did support the 1966 “invasion” by a bunch of Peronist crackpots??

    Crikey!!

    “we want sovereignty but we want it peacefully”

    How about “No”, peacefully or otherwise.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Possibly, but I think they actually had to use fire hoses to blast out all the argentinian human excrement not just from the post office either.

    In stanley, after they surrendered, basically, you couldnt tread anywhere off the road, without treading in argentinian excrement.

    It was awful.

    Oh well, - Eight days to go!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Seems the do not change their filthy habits!

    They have been shitting on the Islands for years. All they are good for really.

    Days to do are getting few.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @8:
    Havent heard that line for years, - 'chuff-charts' thats another memory i have. (although I never agreed with having one)

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Me niether! some of the guys use to have calendars on the wall, like a snakes and ladders board and cross off each day, usually had a representation of a plane taking off at the end of the ladder. The fabled, “Great White Gozomee Bird.”

    First thing I use to do was volunteer for another overseas tour, never understand those guys who were happy to spend their entire service in the UK, met hundreds of them over the years. Spent about 20% of my service at home.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    JLR at Sixteen years old, - Did ten years, loved it, went all over....

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    They support peace, meaning they can block shipping and trade, harrass businesses, but they don't use guns for that so that's peaceful? They didn't support the war, but issue coins celebrating it and drag out veterans of it at every opportunity. They celebrate human rights but only if you're not a native south american in which case their land is fair game. This woman doesn't make me laugh anymore, it's actual hatred.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @12:

    Yeah, I hear you.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    And we all know that the only reason she talks about peace is that she actually hasn't got the means to wage war. If she did, it would be another story all together.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    We only want peace- yet her Defence Minister says - Argentina would re-occupy the Islands if the British defence was not here! - Sorry marcos and Think and Alex- but you really do need to march on the Casa Rosada and wrap her up in a straight jacket for her own good and saftey! She needs a nice padded cell, and some peace and quitet- poor deluded lady!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Diddles

    How thick and brainless is this woman, CFK, and for that matter, how thick and brainless are her supporters! Yes, you want peaceful dialogue while in the same breath you support the terrorist achievements of a group of miltitant Peronistas who thought it was a fabulous idea to hijack a commercial plane and force it to land in illegally in another country. And if that tremendous idea was not enough, these absolute lunatics had intentions of using their smuggled weopons against the Falklands Governor's residence. Yes, let's peaceful gestures....this alone is absolute golden evidence of the stupidity of the Argentine nation at present when its leadership can't see what fools they make of themselves and their nation.

    The Falkland Islands community may only be small population, but by God they look like absolute Einsteins when compared with the fools running the show in Argentina.

    Interestingly, even some Argentines, as evidenced by a young Argentine writer in a foreign publication, and articles written in the Buenos Aires Herald and Clarin in the last year, are starting to see the senselessness of CFK's campaign against the islanders. As for the rest of world, in the nations that really count, where the governments are competent and the people generally reasonably well educated, the Falklands referendum won't go unnoticed and it will be seen generally as a clear statement of the islanders rightfully expressing their democratic will as to what desire for their future in terms of governance. It's their choice, and their choice alone.

    As for UN groups like the Decolonisation Committee, led by a biased Ecuadorian, and including many freeloaders from basket case - like countries with axes to envious axes to grind against a first world nation in Britain, your credibility has been shot to pieces by your biased conduct in the last year, including not even visiting the Falklands to meet the islanders, despite the open invitation from their elected government.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Check this out, it's enough to make you old.......

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9903828/Argentinas-President-Kirchner-pleads-for-talks-on-Falklands.html

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    Another day, another claim. You really wouldn't want to underwrite her! “We don't say we are right”, but we've written into our constitution just to be on the safe side. A trained chimp could run that country better than her.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Robert English

    3 hours and forty mins, !, from an old dear, who soon will be gone

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CJvR

    You can't have it, peacefully. Your move KFC.

    3h 40m ? Good time to catch up on jet lag.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    All I recall of that CDK story was “old”, “dirty”, “battered”, “full of wind” and “soggy wet turf”. Let me know if I missed anything else important.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Dear Ms Fernandez:

    Talks are on - but the Islanders, who are the people most affected by your satanic wishes, must be included. I believe the Constitution of Argentina says that the Islander's welfare must be respected.

    Just show sense sometimes!

    Gordo1

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    If CFK wants the Islands in peace then by god she is going the right way about it. Shipping blockades, Trade, Trying to stop our tourist business, Embargos on the development of oil. Lan Chile flights restrictions the list goes on and on. She and her government may try to tell us that they are not like the regime of 82 but tell me what is different because the attitude of the government is one of non recognition of a people who live on the islands because we have British Blood in most of us.

    Well let me tell you CFK we will never accept your government rule , your people or your false promises. Your Country has systematically tried to hold us hostages for the past 180 plus years and if you think that as a last ditch attempt to woe us you are making the biggest political mistake of your life.

    You know that the referendum is not going to go your way and you are now trying to portray your government as the nice guys.
    Your not nice cant be trusted and we do not believe you.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Mrs K wants peace. She's got peace, the presence of the British Garrison has guaranteed it for the past 30 years. Its presence will guarantee the peace for the next 30 years and long after that if it is necessary. There can be fewere tax £'s more well spent, than those spent on the defence of the islands.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    Exactly.
    Theres nothing to talk about untilthe islanders change there mind the invasion of 1982 changed everything.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Pretty sure this is the start of a very elaborate of bout of Kentucky Fried Chicken mouthing off in public, it will last throughout the referendum to try and distract world (and domestic) media from the fact history will be made on the Falkland Islands. (again)

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    True, with their recent behaviour, refusal to recognise the human rights and dignity of the Islanders, they have achieved only one thing. That is to drive us, by us I mean the UK and the Islanders, farther away from ever getting any form of solution acceptable to both sides.

    They have created a giant political chasm and until they change their inherent behaviour, it is only going to get bigger. This of course suits us, because the farther you can stay away from them, the better and they are making it so, so easy!

    They need to realise, the islanders will never give away sovereignty, they need to settle for the next best thing, whatever that is? and they only way they will achieve that is with dialogue with the islanders.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    She is lovely isn't she: plastic face, botox lips, plastic surgery on her neck (under cover of the cancer scare). Just the woman for Frankenstein's Monster.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Although I think even the monster wouldn't go near it.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    What? you never played grab a Grot? Fiver in the pool, winner take all.

    She is what we use to call, “A right Crockadilapig.” A cert to win.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”““How can it possible that [Britain] sat down with genocidists but won’t negotiate with officials voted by popular will at the ballot box?” ”“””

    How is it that CFK sits down with Iranian dictatorial holocaust-deniers but wont negotiate with officials voted by popular will at the ballot box (Falkland Islands government)

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Opened ED's link to the Telegraph and watched the footage of the chamber Man, you should see the people applauding like she was some sort of a celebrity. What is it with Argentines and women politicians? no wonder she thinks she is Evita reincarnate. If they applaud shit like this, it just shows what we are up against, it is not just her that's barking, it's all of them!!!!!!!!
    PMSL.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • screenname

    Talking about the dignity of a flag that belonged to terrorist plane hijackers. You really could not ask her to do much more for the people of the Falklands in the run upto the vote.

    She is either totally bonkers, or is actually trying to present such a ridiculous parody of Argentine Imperialism that any normal Argentinian could not help but reflect on the reality of the situation.

    This is international propaganda gold.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    *** MORE SMOKE ***

    well well argentina immortalizing criminals/terrorists truly outstanding !

    “ the military adventure in the Islands” , adventure?
    this isnt a f*cking enid blyton story they were sent on a terrorist mission with intent to kill innocent people of another country, adventure lol,
    i guess the sinking of the belgrano was just another successful adventure by the royal navy. :)

    SELF-DETERMINATION.....Its in the air!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    Kirchner says

    “we’re not asking them to say we are right, but to sit and dialogue”.

    And peace is important “because we had nothing to do with that dictatorship we Argentines suffered and endured and we all repudiate” and was involved in the military adventure in the Islands.

    This woman gets worse by the day,there is no doubt if the military junta had been successful ther would be a special day set asise in Argentina to celebrate-ALL ARGENTINIANS must take full responsibility of who evere leads them,lets not forget the hundred of thousands of Argentines celebrating and waving there flags,unfortunately you lost end of story.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @15 only want peace- yet her Defence Minister says - Argentina would re-occupy the Islands if the British defence was not here! - Sorry marcos and Think and Alex- but you really do need to march on the Casa Rosada and wrap her up in a straight jacket for her own good and saftey! She needs a nice padded cell, and some peace and quitet- poor deluded lady!
    Sorry Islander1 impossible NONE of the above mentioned buffoons live in rgenweener

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Dear Mrs Kirchner,
    Sorry for you, sweety, but we don't want to talk to you & we're not going to either.
    You can “demand” as much as you like, that just makes us laugh.
    Whats to talk about anyway?”
    The weather?
    The price of wool?
    The fishing?
    maybe Mr Jones's roses(thanks for that one, briton!) lol.
    No dahling, we don't lower ourselves to talk to people who want to steal OUR lslands.
    So get lost, Crissy-baby.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • andy65

    @slattzzz ,If only but marcos,Think and Alex are all living a different life outside of Argentina there familys fled for want of a better life elsewhere,Marcos is on record as saying he lives in The UK and would return to Argentina when it is more stable ,might be waiting a long time then.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Sickens me it does. These Carasitic Punts living in the UK, feeding off our benefit system, - And bad mouthing the UK the wholr time they are here.

    Pucking Farasites.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    38 andy65
    Is that true about Marcos? He admitted living in the UK? The same guy who said he visited the UK once for 3 days and the weather was crap? What a deadbeat.

    Mike, that car accident obviously did more damage to your head than just the ugly facial scars you have.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MrFlagpole

    what a bizarre definition of hero.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • expbrit

    “However the aircraft got stuck in the soggy wet turf of the racecourse and was rapidly surrounded by members of the Falklands’ defence force and a small group of UK marines stationed in the Islands.”

    LMFAO

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @42:

    That's one of the funniest bits, - I'm on the floor here!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    “We want sovereignty over the Malvinas, but in peace”, Cristina Fernandez tells Congress

    They can't even be arsed to fight for it. 'Just give it to us because we want it....'

    Talking to a friend in BsAs last night and she confirmed that things are getting crazy there. She said she had just come back from a vacation in Uruguay and it really brought home how bad things are in Argentina by comparison.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    Where are all our argie malvinista trolls today?
    “Argentina claims again to the UK, in the presence of all provinces, government and opposition lawmakers, dialogue over the sovereignty of the Malvinas Islands as the resolutions of the United Nations indicate,” NO!
    “She added that the Malvinas Argentine sovereignty and dialogue request is supported by Mercosur, Unasur and the 54 African countries, “the world is the one clamouring for dialogue” and continued “we’re not asking them to say we are right, but to sit and dialogue”. Which part of the word ”NO“ did you not understand?
    ”Insisting with dialogue the Argentine president said “we believe diplomacy is the only thing we have to defend peace” and highlighted that “yes, we want sovereignty over the Islands but we want it in peace”, a value no one talks about.“ Is there a war going on?
    ”And peace is important “because we had nothing to do with that dictatorship we Argentines suffered and endured and we all repudiate” and was involved in the military adventure in the Islands.“ That's alright then. WE British had nothing to do with anything that happened before World War 1.
    ”The Argentine president then went to add how was it possible that UK authorities could sit down and have a dialogue with those guilty of genocide, “but refuse to talk to democratic governments elected by the people and that have made the defence of human rights their banner?” WE weren't busy that day so WE thought we'd have a laugh. And WE don't recognise you as democratic.
    There will be NO “dialogue” about the sovereignty of the Falkland Islands. The UK is holding the Islands in trust for the Islanders. After the referendum, the Islanders may wish to talk about their future. WE will listen. As it happens, Britain cannot discuss sovereignty because the Falkland Islands ARE sovereign. The Falkland Islands Government exercises de facto administrative control. That's IT!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Lets see what 'peace' means. At the moment it means a tide of hostile rhetoric from Argentinean politicians and people. A blockade of the Falklands by sea and air. Harrassment of defenceless pensioner cruise ship passengers by aggressive Argentinean thugs when they set foot in Argentina. Going around the world trying to stir up trouble with other pariah nations and failed states by telling bare faced lies about well documented British sovereignty. A foreign Minister making a false propaganda visit to England where he refused to meet our Foreign Minister and Islanders representatives, and then lying about it.
    I am left wondering what sort of stunt the TVs will try to pull on referendum weekend. Something like planting an Argentinean flag on the islands perhaps. Better have a hunter killer on hand to sink their sub I think... Better to capture it and scuttle it and send the crew back to Arg I think. Astute class... Heads up!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    With refrence to Marcos. Thats's me, he once guided me to a Daily Telegraph link, there I read the same a poster, writing the same pro Argentine rhetoric, in the same style of English language and posted with the same name. That led me to believe and I still believe, that the Marcos Alejandro on this site and the Marcos Alejandro on that site, are one and the same. A Hypocrite. weather nice today Marcos, isn't it?

    Just watched a news piece about the UK defence cuts. Colonel Bob Stewart MP was commenting on it. Now there's a man. Remember him. he was the CO of the 1st Chesires in Bosnia. I remember seeing him on the news, walking up to the Serbian Militia and telling them in no uncertain term, if they killed any more muslim civilians he would order his soldiers to kill them. At a time when the UN, useless shits! stood by and watched them murder innocent men, women and children, afraid to stop a genocide! A real British officer stepped forward and marked their cards for them.

    Fast forward, Sierra Leone, mass mutilations by gangs of thugs running wild, children with hands cut off, women raped and murdered. An officer with balls enough to set the Paras loose against them, doing what was right against political orders, now look at the place. People living in freedom, no more gangs of thugs, no more mutilations. Defy these RG dickheads, to find a single law abiding Sierra Leonean who supports them. That officer, later became the head of the army. Someone has common sense!

    And these fuckers, have the bare faced cheek to call us Imperialists!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    This is really ratchets things up to levels of SAD not seen since the last Jerry Lewis Telethon. As with JL, CFK has learned that when it comes to broadcast excellence, you just can't beat that perfect cocktail of sleep deprivation, dodgy prescription medication and mental instability.

    Awesome.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gustbury

    45@ shut up parasite,okupa,thief!!!!!!!!Malvinas Argentinas for ever

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    conquerito .......still eating horse meat its making you very badddddddddd and worst talking too much nonsense......take care with the frozen artificial food

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Oh god here we go, here come the 'limp-dick' trolls............

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinero1

    Who cares about the brits..uk is FINISHED!!
    Ahahahahahahaha poor pirates..all alone and footing the bill,jobless,indebted..isolated...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbLfje8_jgI

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Jesus, you malvanista boys need to grow some pubic hair and go and loose your virginity somewhere.

    I've got two words for what you lot post.................Shite.

    And.......Shite.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Of course we are finished, why don'y you come and take the islands, they are yours, nothing to stop you. That zip! crack! is the sound of the round going past your head. The bang is the sound of it being fired. Don't worry about the the next one, you won't hear it, if your very, very lucky, you won't feel it either.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Plus, if I was a bellend malvanista, i'd be a lot more concerned with this below, that the UK.
    http://www.fogl.com/fogl/en/home

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    You also of course realize, she's just given an engraved invitation for her toadies to pull a redux of the 66 stunt.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    Which of course, somebody is bound to attempt, come next Sunday.....

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Speaking of falgs, where's the big yellow smiley face from the middle of the their flag? Sneaky b.....d, it's still on the Islands!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    i think it looks like the sun from the TeleTubbies.

    http://www.google.fr/imgres?imgurl=http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ks369mVfVt1qanwn3o1_400.jpg&imgrefurl=http://fuckyeahbabysun.tumblr.com/&h=280&w=400&sz=17&tbnid=B5BiFJlMH5ziVM:&tbnh=75&tbnw=107&prev=/search%3Fq%3DTeletubbies%2Bsun%26tbm%3Disch%26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=Teletubbies+sun&usg=__eCXyBXRRGTiMoEca0b6zZbh_HhI=&sa=X&ei=TCAyUcaLDpOThgfIxoHwBg&ved=0CCcQ9QEwAg

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I think we should try to envisage what stunts the cunts are going to pull in the days left to the referendum.

    We could list them as we go and the winners get due kudos?

    I will start with some Malvanista idiot managing to get on the Islands and cause a minor 'photo opportunity' in an attempt to claim the vote null and void on the first day.

    We know it won't be any of the cowardly bastards who post on MP, they are just gob-shites, so I cannot offer a name other than 'On behalf of our glorious President' or some such rubbish.

    What does everyone think?

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    I think somebody will smash the glass on at the RG war cemetary again.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    It is about time they tell the Red Cross to demand that the British allow forensic teams into the Falklands to identify the remains in the Darwin cemetery.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    ah conquercito, tomato sauce maybe rojizo caoba cobrizo tone (tintura para pelo)
    Uk is sending all lasagna to their 10 OT, Ive heard

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Isnt it funny, there aren't any about at all.... And then, they all turn up at once. Sort of makes you think they are all one and the same pussy.

    Argie food and wine - ugh! Tough chemical fed beef and donkey piss. I think they are putting the Botox in as fertiliser , explains the walnut brains and tiny pps.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    In Arg we use delivery delivery
    Ice cream delivery the bestttttt

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I actually and I am being serious, for sorry some of those men, not all, just those who had no choice in being there. The war I mean, not the cemetary.

    It is an awful thing to be killed in a war, It is even more awful to be killed in a war, that never needed to take place. When I say this, I talk about the Argentine dead, not ours. Our men were killed in a fight to liberate people, theirs were killed in a war to subjugate them, though I doubt that their young men saw it this way.

    There is absolutely no reason at all why these men should not be given back their name, “ their name,” that's what we are talking about here. It might not mean much to to TMBOA Argentina, but I am willing bet, if these young men knew they were going to be denied that right, for a political reason, they would have thought twice about fighting. Christ, if you have no name? What are you? your less than nothing.

    I worked in the law enforcement for nearly 40 years, I remember, when saliva and body secretions would only give you a blood group, nothing more. I have seen first hand how DNA has developed. to be a tool for good.

    We should sample these these men, ensure continuity of the deceaed and send the samples to the RG's. Keep copies, now isn't that f....ing sad. If they want to ignore them, they are even bigger cnuts than I took for and that's saying something!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Foxtrot Indigo

    Don't cry for us Argentina
    The truth is we never loved you
    All through your dark days
    Your mad existence
    You broke your promises
    Now keep your distance

    :-)

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    Dialogue is not monologue.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @62 agent999
    There are a number of organisations representing the relatives of the war dead and not all of them think as you do as they say they've already suffered and they do not want to relive painful memories. This business was reported by MP some months ago.See their archives for 2012.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @66 reality check

    I agree with your sentiments on the topic.

    The approach to the Red Cross has only been used by Argentina as a propaganda tool.!

    No one has refused allow DNA samples to be taken.
    Some of the Argentinian families, however, do not want the graves to be disturbed.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    67 :)
    Dont cry for us UK
    the truth is we never loved you
    all through your dark days...etc etc

    Watch free for you. we are giving you of your own music. about 19hs of Argentina
    http://vivo.clarin.com/

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @70 agent999

    I suppose what I was trying to say is. Take the bloody samples anyway, under the control of Swiss, to avoid the almost certain allegations against the UK. Hand them into the Swiss. There they are Argentina. do you want them or not, we have behaved with humanity. There are the names of your dead.

    Imaigine it. The identity of these young men, sitting on a shelf in a Lab in Switzerland and all that stands between them, their, parents, wife, children and siblings, is their own damn nationalistic politics.

    You know what? I would absolutely expect that to happen and that is sad, very, very, very sad.

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  • LEPRecon

    @72 - RC

    If you're going to exhume the dead to take DNA samples, then you might as well go the whole hog and sent the bodies back to Argentina. Flags over the coffins, full military escort, the whole hog.

    If Argentina refuses to accept them, then they should be buried at sea, with full military honours.

    Then the Argies will have no excuse for ever visiting the Islands again.

    Or, we just sail into the Argentine port, and place the coffins on the dock. I mean, just how could they stop us from doing it?

    In the meantime we can plant a British flag in Patagonia, and declare that the Argentines stole it from us in an act of blatant colonialism.

    We have no proof of this, of course, but we could just follow their example and make something up.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    lets go with her peace tactic.....
    will we see a large argentine protest/thug group invading the F.I shores??
    or maybe invited argentines protesting with offensive t-shirts and Uk flag burning in port stanley maybe in the election hall itself??
    whatever they do will be right under the world presses nose.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    I'd say your bang on the money PL.

    Something like that is being planned right now.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I have heard that a SAS CT team has been deployed to the Falkland Islands to cover such a scenario. Bit of a training mission really, couple of explosions, the sound of double taps, centre mass and bugger me, more Argentine heroes for internment at Darwin.

    Joking aside, I think. or would hope the bosses have made contingency plans for such a think. if some of their deluded nationalists want to commit suicide, let them. If they want live through such a stunt, better leave their the previously mentioned weapons at home, not like the last lot. Like smoking, it's extremely bad for their health.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • KFC de Pollo

    Did Hague not offer talks whilst Timmerman was there? Only for Timmerman to say he wouldn't talk with the democratically elected officials of the Falkland Islands?

    Quite happy to talk to the “democratically” elected officials of Iran a week or two later though!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    disruption is the name of her game, and its up to the F.I to limit this on the day as much as humanly possible as not to taint what will be The Falklands finest hour. :)

    maybe a passenger aircraft full of argentine political students, pulling the argentine flag while dropping flyers over stanley, would it be shot down i highly doubt that, but that would make big news.
    i would certainly keep an eye on any argentine friendly south american observers at the Democratic referendum.

    whatever happens i can see The UK pulling in “Castro” to explain argentinas actions during the referendum, as this admitting is her aim.

    SELF-DETERMINATION.....whats your vote ;)

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    Time for Keith Padgett and Nigel Haywood to, on live television, unfurl an Argentina flag, and take a crap on it, as a message to Cristina.

    Then all the Jews in Argentina should claim refugee/political asylum status and move to USA, we'd glady accept them, because its quite clear the current Arg administration is anti-Semitic. And we all know that the Jews in Argentina are the only Argies with any money anyway, lol, so Arg will REALLY be broke after that, even more than now!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    'Argentina’s About-Face on Terror'
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/02/opinion/why-is-argentinas-president-cozying-up-to-iran.html?_r=0

    'Order by Falklands dialog without mentioning the referendum'
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/02/opinion/why-is-argentinas-president-cozying-up-to-iran.html?_r=0

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Foxtrot Indigo

    I think we should burn the RG flag after we get the resounding 'Yes' vote we know we'll get. Only thing is, I don't think there are any RG flags in the FI, for good reason :)

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @76 No aircraft would get anywhere near the Islands, it would have a typhoon up it's backside before the pilot could say TMBOA

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    @77
    Timmerman talked, no bugger listened. Still he had a freeby to London.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @83 shouldn't that read Tinman talked, buggered, and no one listened

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Slatzz
    If it was a hijacked civilian airliner, authorisation to take it down would have to come from the UK.

    Is it me or is Christina getting twitchy?

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Foxtrot Indigo

    @85

    I doubt the MOD would shoot down a hijacked civilian plane,there would be innocent people on board. Most likely they would force the plane to land then it would be surrounded by our armed forces. But we could always sneak a tub of earwigs on board for them to take back to RGland with them as a parting gift...^_~

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • saphira

    Much as I detest earwigs even I would find sending the poor things to Argentina extremely cruel :)

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Wonder if there's room for a Findus Donkey Meat Lasagna addressed to Danny Burger? silly me, he lives in the fatherland, can not trust them to forward it on to Germany, after all, he would have to pay for the postage!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @85
    the “twitchy-ness” is a well known reaction caused by botox misuse on the genitalia.....so now she is burdened with two fat c*nts. :)

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Well I know she is a cnut face, pray tell. where is the other one?

    Oh dear me! they are getting worse!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    3 guesses,
    the first letter of his name is in “expansionism” but not in “hardship”
    his family have gradually destroyed argentina while filling their own bank accounts, he also holds the record for cocaine eating in one night, his father played Igor in horror films. His mother thinks she is Evita reincarnated but insists she is not a peronist,Oh and his sister is a right minger!!
    kinda narrows it down...

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    We want sovereignty over the Malvinas, but in peace”,

    Congratulations CFK you have been voted to join the rest of histories stupidity club.
    We want we want,
    We don’t own them, we never administered them, we never ruled them ,
    But what the hell their ours,
    And just because we want it, the world will sanction it, and the brits will give it to us,

    For this is Argentine destiny
    As will the Argentine empire grow, to one day include the whole of South America
    [so CFK has written it, ,,,so it will be done ]
    Argentina, =what would the world do without you.
    We would have to hire another comedy act would we not.lolol.
    .

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Oh she's got another flag. Whoopie!

    Meanwhile the country is approaching default, the peso will have to be devalued and inflation is going through the roof. But she's got another flag...

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Mummy. what's a pesso?

    Be quiet and wipe your bum like I showed you.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    Argentina doesn't appear to have 'real' heroes, so they invent them.

    First the murderer Riverio and now this.

    It really is funny.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Where’s the telly tubby gone from the flag,

    or dont the sun shine no more on Argentina,

    bad omen, bad omen.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Dr. Jeorbbels

    The way to solve the Falklands/Malvinas dispute is for CFK to acknowledge that the Falklands are British and that Argentina's claim is false and based solely on a few spurious months 1832/33

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    @97

    The way to resolve the Falklands dispute is for the following to occur:

    The United Nations removes the 10 British Overseas Territories from the “Decolonization” list after each votes to maintain the status quo.

    The British maintain a significant military presence on the islands

    The Mercosur states (especially Chile and Uruguay) recognise the potential profitability from the oil boom and see this trade as more important than pandering to Argentine rhetoric

    Argentina continues to bitch, moan, whinge, default, steal, lie, embezzle, squander, murder, cheat and brainwash....because that is who they are.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    Following the demise of the Falklands fantasy, Argentina has launched a legal claim for Atlantis, Avalon and the lost city of Zinge!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Lep

    Funny how they make heroes out of these hijackers, when they have real heroes who were killed holding their positions against our guys. No doubt about it, some of those RG's knew they were going to be killed but kept fighting. Our veterans say as much. They would not surrender and had to be killed, so be it, their choice.

    If they unveiled a painting of an RG gunner being over run by Scots Guards, with the bayonet. I could respect that, because it would have some truth.

    What I could not respect would be, why the were unvieling it, because their hero had no business being there in the first place.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Argentina is the most backward thinking Country in the world. Acts like a naughty school kid and throws tantrums over just about everything.

    Meanwhile the Falkland island people who are forward thinking people has sat back and watched their biggest neighbour rise then fall and they have had to do no more than stand firm in their belief that the right of humanity is on their side.

    Keep up the good work CFK you are in self destruct and The Islanders have had to do no more than congratulate you on your self inflicted crusade.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    I have no doubt that there will be much more ignorant people, who will continue comparing the actual argentine govt. with the dictatorship.
    But the most pathetic of this situation, is that many of those people who accuse arg. of pretending just one outcome, are the same people who support the govt. from the islands, every time it's members manifest that they are disposed to discuss about different issues with arg., but not about the sovereignty, which is the main problem.
    Perhaps for all those hipocrites, that posture expressed by the govt. from the islands, doesn't mean that it's members pretend just one outcome. This situation makes me think that i wasn't wrong when i thought that the strong defence that these people make, respecting the right to self determination, is not more than the tipical hipocrite colonial caprice of the u. k.
    It's obvious that we have always wanted sovereignty over the islands, bu the only one way to achieve it, is by mean a dialogue and in peace.
    Anway, it's obvious also the fact that the u. k. will continue with i't s hipocrite argument, respecting the applicaton of the right to self determination for this cause, which has never been applied for this case by the u. n.
    If this cause had been a question of self determination, the u. n. would have invoked that principle many years ago, like it did for others colonial situations. However, although many people in this forum prefer invaliding it, this cause has always been considered like a special colonial situation by the decolonization committe.
    As i said in different oportunities, everybody have right to think whatever, but there is nothing more imporant than the facts.
    On the other hand, it's important to signalize that if none of the two nations proposed to take this question to the i. c. j., is because perhaps neather arg., nor the u. k., are sure of getting a positive outcome for this dispute.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @98 Add to directives for the C24 that it is not in their mandate to adjudicate territorial claims, especially specious ones such as Spain's and Argentina's.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    As long as the UK keeps cutting its defense budget I don't think CFK is very much worried.

    Be prepared to see the argentine flag in Malvinas very soon.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    @102 Wise words at the end of your post; special indeed. This is, after all, a struggle over which State has the responsibility to decolonise the Falkland Islands in the absence of a pre-colonial native population. Both sides are equally damned as colonial powers. Unless the Islanders declare unilateral independence only integration into a UN member state will solve the decolonisation problem. Argentina currently offers this option, UK does not. The lesson is obvious; the Islanders must vote No on 10/11 March and then challenge the UK to integrate the Islands into the UK duly followed by agreement to negotiated devolution.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @102... “I have no doubt that there will be much more ignorant people, who will continue comparing the actual argentine govt. with the dictatorship.”

    For heavens' sake, Axel.. it's a crime to Speak Math to Power in Argentina (e.g,. your inflation rates). I think that that's not even something the Junta tried (at least explicitly). Your government has dictatorial (and at best, quasi-dictorial) ambitions across the board. Face it, deal with it. and stop making your country's problems the Falklanders' problems.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Axel
    It's obvious to me now that English is not your first language and you are using some sort of translation software. That explains the lay out of your posts and your English grammar. no software will ever get that right. A shame, because I get the feeling you could contribute something constructive to this debate.

    I will say this, the English, do wish you would call us by our proper name, British, you do realise we are not all English, already have a positive outcome of this dispute. Are you forgetting that the Islands are British and whilst they continue to be British, which they will, there will always be a positive outcome for the British.

    There is no dispute for us, there is however for you, sadly that means you will not achieve the positive outcome you desire.

    Seem to have used the phrase, “poitive outcome” rather a lot.

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  • Monkeymagic

    Axel

    Firstly, why do you think it is that Britain does not compare Angel Merkels government with the Nazis, or even Berlusconi with Mussolini, or Putins with Stalin??

    Why is it that Britain doesn't consider Hollande to be Napoleon or perhaps compare Japan's leadership with Hirohito?

    Why is this comparison spared only for Argentina and the Junta? Why is this “ignorant stance” taken?

    Let me explain,

    At no point has Frau Merkel suggested that perhaps the Sudetenland should be “peacefully” annexed to Germany, at no point has she claimed that Poland and Holland would look nice with a Swastika map.

    I don't recall Monsieur Hollande suggesting that perhaps Belgium should really be French or Northern Spain would look nice with a tricolour.

    Japan has not requested that Singapore be “returned to it” or maybe large chunks of China be annexed.

    Mr Putin isn't (as far as we know) suggesting Hungary and the Czech Republic are really part of a “Soviet Union”.

    You see, none of Merkel, Hollande, Putin et al were members of the various regimes in their countries past, but none are so ready to suggest that their countries don't have responsibility...only YOU!!

    Only Argentina has the gobsmacking retardation to start a war, causing the loss of nearly 1000 lives, and then say, “it wasn't me, it was the other lot, can we have what we fighting over anyway!!!”

    If you are too “ignorant” to see that...then there is no help for you.

    As far as self-determination is concerned, why have 8 of the 10 remaining UK territories on the list with no sovereignty disputes not been removed then??

    It has nothing to do with the sovereignty, it has to with the population size. How the heck could Pitcairn with 70 odd inhabitants be an independent state?

    you say that your wish for sovereignty can only be achieved through dialogue and peace...utter crap Axel.

    Try this...go into your local bank on Monday and ask for $1bn USD. When they say No, ask for dialogue. See how long it takes to get the cash.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @104
    Not as long as I have a hole in my arse

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • g_long88

    stupid britons
    keeping attacking from a web site is simple nonsense.
    _ BRITAN ALWAYS THE ACCUSSER_____
    WHERE IS uk PM___ DAVID ka-MORON de Pollito

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    109, that's up to you. Lol.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    Doddery over dover says “Both sides are equally damned as colonial powers. Unless the Islanders declare unilateral independence only integration into a UN member state will solve the decolonisation problem. Argentina currently offers this option, UK does not.”
    Great Britain is in the UN and the Falkland Islands will vote to stay a BRITISH overseas territory (for now), so I would say they are integrated into a UN member state by choice, and hopefully will be removed from the decolonization list swiftly and without question. Rgenweener offers the Falkland Islands absolutely nothing, diddly squat, sweet fuck all.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • puerto argentino

    “We want sovereignty over the Malvinas, but in peace”

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @113 I want Leicester City to win the champions league but it ain't going to happen.
    @104 keep up Britains defence budget will increase from next year.
    @110 Sussie fook off oxygen thief this is a debate for adults with more than one braincell which counts you out!!!!
    By the way trolls did you see HMS Ambush handed over to the Royal Navy yesterday, might be visiting the coastal waters of rgenweener in the not so distant future.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 10:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Well you see that is where your arguement falls down, because it is not a matter of what you want, it is rather a matter of what the Falkland Islanders want. Peace would be nice, you could make a fine start by showing some of it towards the islanders. Remember them, they are the people you say do not exist. You see, if you think we are going to let you ethnically cleanse the current inhabitants of the Ralkland Islands, well. sorry to say, no peace, we will defend them and if that means fighting, so be it. We will not start it, but I think we have demonstrated, we will finish it!

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @105 Dame dover

    “ Unless the Islanders declare unilateral independence only integration into a UN member state will solve the decolonisation problem. Argentina currently offers this option, UK does not. The lesson is obvious; the Islanders must vote No on 10/11 March and then challenge the UK to integrate the Islands into the UK duly followed by agreement to negotiated devolution.”

    Argentina offers 'integration into Argentina', except that,
    Falkland Islanders exercising their right of Self Determination, “reject” that - as you Argentinians say.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @104 oliebera.
    Dream on.

    Mar 02nd, 2013 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    117

    It's you that are dreaming.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Load of big posh words again and totally misses the point, the point being that people, people! have the right to decide their own destiny. Why else include it in the charter for christ sake. What? so that 66 years later, we could all sit around technology they could not even have imagined in their wildest dreams, debating what self determination means. Rubbish, we all know what it means, why it is there. It means people, all people should have a say in their own future. If you disagree with it, then get the hell out of the organisation!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • SirianJedi

    Argentinean Dictators always play the Malvinas Card when they have ruined their country's economy! This Mad Woman should fix Argentina (fat chance!) before she takes over the Falklands!...“Peace with the island inhabitants”....yea riiiight! She will make her son Govenor and transfer all Oil, Fishing and Trading rights to his name....and the Islanders can take a hike!

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  • olibeira

    The UK doesn't care about Malvinas.

    They will gadly give it up.

    CFK knows that.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

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  • olibeira

    122, I understand why you are upset.

    My advice, don't bother because sooner or later Malvinas will belong to Argentina.

    Do you think Cameron cares about that.

    He is slashing the defence budget so don't think he is going to save your ass.

    CFK has been very patient so I really don't understand all the criticism.

    She is not liable for the errors made by the junta.

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  • Cameron de P0llito

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  • slattzzz

    @123 I reiterate you are a dickhead,
    Our defence budget is about to be increased.
    CFK is rapidly running out of time.
    The Junta, ah diddums always the victim never take responsibility for your former leaders fuck ups, tell that to the millions celebrating in BA the day you invaded. Then crying like fuck the day you did your usual surrender monkey trick and raised the white flag.
    The Falklands will never belong to rgenweener.
    I say again try it and see how much David Cameron cares, don't think you will like the outcome panyo.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    125, you can say wathever you want.

    The Malvinas will be seized either by force or peace.

    Trust me, the UK and its armed forces are no threat for any invading force.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    102 axel arg

    “this cause has always been considered like a special colonial situation by the decolonization committe.”
    Doesn't matter what they want, they are only invested with the power of issuing advisements.
    What ever other legal rights of sovereignty the UK could rely on , probably the most significant was Argentines loss of claim through extinct prescription , by 1982. Argentines failure to place her claim before a competent court has ceded her claim to the UK. As a result there is no legal impediment to the islanders right to self-determination. This is further borne out by Argentine failure to legally challenge the referendum, which gives rise to tacit acceptance by her acquiescence.

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  • screenname

    @126 olibeira: '...invading force'

    Nice of you too admit that.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    128, its a military term.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

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  • olibeira

    130, I know you're screwed but trust me.

    The UK can kiss goodbye the Malvinas.

    Cheers budy.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    We will see won't we BUDDY, don't hold your breath though will you?

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    133, don't dream son.

    You have to face the facts.

    The rest doesn't matter.

    UK wil give up either way.

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  • slattzzz

    @133 why are you talking to yourself numbnuts

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Royal Siamese Twins

    #120
    what “argentine dictators”
    wake up
    move on
    modern times
    lo pasado es pisado

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    134, son, you're crazy. Just don't bother me with your nonsense.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    well you answered your own statement @133 and if i'm your son (thank fook I'm not) YOU MUST BE AT LEAST 70. Now trot on and stop bothering real people with your nonsense theres a good troll

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    You're the troll.

    Now go see some cartoons and don't bother daddy. Lol.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    fraid not troll

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    yeah right. You're doing greaty buddy. Lol.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    well first you can't spell buddy, then you answer your own posts, pretend to know something about the military and what the fuck is greaty, if didn't know any better I'd say you were either Sussie or aged about 12

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    Lol. Trust me, I don't need to know how to spell to understand that the UK will give up on the Malvinas.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Foxtrot Indigo

    If RGland ever invades us again I'll be one of the first to sign up to the FIDF (Falkland Islands Defence Force) ready to defend my home. I might be killed but you can be damn sure I'll take loads of the RG so-called soldiers with me! Sorry RGland but you never owned us and you never will. Even if the UK did lose interest in us, we will never lose interest in our own self preservation. The fact that it would be political suicide for any government of the UK to turn their backs on the Falklands only helps our cause. Defence of the Falklands costs less than 2% of the MOD budget, I think we're safe from any cuts. Add that to the fact that the RG Navy keeps sinking in its own harbours or breaking down and being impounded, I think we are safe :)

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  • commonsparrow

    If that libertard was one of their frigates, you have no worries......

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @142
    Lets wait and see what the FALKLANDERS say in their REFERENDUM, they may want to be colonised by Argentina but I doubt it. Why would we want to give up the FALKLANDS, just give one reason why.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Diddles

    To Obileira, and the rest of our Argentine trolls, keep trolling and keep embarrassing both yourselves and your nation in the eyes of the world. Your country has become an economic joke....a story in how not to run an economy and a nation...to think once back in the early 1900's you ranked alongside our nation, Australia as one of the world's leading economies. What happened....oh that's right, you became more hostile to British interests in your nation and decended into absolute chaos from the 1930's, leading to military coups and general instability, ultimately resulting in the rise of a fascist inspired leader in Juan Domingo Peron...a man who when stationed in Italy in 1939 as a military observer, was impressed by the nationalism of the fascists. Returning to Argentina, Peron involved himself deeply in a secret military organisation, the the Grupo Obra de Unification, who were composed of young military staff bent on remodeling Argentina's political system along the lines of those in Germany and Italy. And so the story continues with another populist-style Peronist leader in CFK, and little wonder the chaos continues as well.

    Keep beating your nationalist drum, but even many thinking Argentines are dismayed by the state of affairs in Argentina these days, although they are made feel a lot of intimidation when they do go out to protest against your hopeless government. Your more independent media like Clarin are under attack, as are the more rational and independent members of your judiciary....Argentina is becoming not exactly a good example of a democratic state at all.

    And you seriously expect the Falkland Islanders or their protectors, the Britsih, to sit down with your government to negotiate the islanders future. Argentine Trolls, one and all, hang your heads in shame, you not only offend the Falklanders, you offend anyone who believes in natural justice for one and all.

    To the Falklanders, Viva las Islas Falkland para siempre.

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  • Foxtrot Indigo

    @146

    Well said!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Diddles

    Foxtrot Indigo, thanks mate.

    I hope the Falklanders really celebrate their coming of age with this referendum which will spell it out for any anyone with an open mind as to what the Falklanders rightfully desire with respect to their governance. It's their choice, and theirs alone, so in simple words, Argentine Trolls bugger off, as no thinking person with a real respect for human rights and self determination cares about your thoughts....because those thoughts are just the same old silly nationalist trash that Peronism drowns in.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    well said diddles

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 04:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • knarfw

    1947 - Britain offers to take sovereignty dispute to the ICJ. Argentina does not accept.
    1948: Britain again offers to take the sovereignty dispute to the ICJ. Argentina declines.
    1955: Britain unilaterally refers the sovereignty dispute the ICJ. Argentina declines and states that it will not accept any judgement.

    Wonder why.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JimLad

    Once again, Kirchner proudly declares “We have nothing to do with the evil Junta, and thus have no responsibility for their evil actions. Coincidentally, we just want EXACTLY what they wanted in 1982”.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 05:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    @142
    Why in earth would we give up the Falklands, just before the oil is starting to flow? Don't confuse Argentine economics with the UK, one of the UK's problems for the future will be energy. That oil will fuel the UK economy and ensure that the Falklands will always have brand new advanced destroyers parked in their harbours to protect them from you.

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  • Escoses Doido

    In this 'post 911' age we now live in, the '66 scenario of a plane hijack to land on the Falklands with the tellitubbies flag?

    I think as far as world opinion is concerned, the correct course of action really would be to shoot the *ucker down I'm afraid.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    @152 THAT oil has no UK involvement! It is Falkland Islands oil to do with as they choose. They issue the exploration licenses and will collect any taxes accruing to actual oil production. With those taxes the Falkland Islanders will pay the cost of their independence which includes any cost of British protection.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @ doverandndover & axel arg:

    What? - Are you two a double act ore something?

    You wankers always come on in pairs don't you.

    One backing the other up.

    Fuds, the pair 'o' ye's.

    Fuds.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @142 olibeira,
    You are living in fantasy land if you think we will hand OUR country over to a failed rogue state like Argentina.
    As Diddles rightly pointed out, in 1900 Argentina had one of the highest living standards in the world.
    Look at yourselves now:- one of the lowest outside of Africa.
    And you did it all by your little selves.
    You also have a reputation for violence, 1976-1982 where you murdered up to 30,000 of your OWN people?
    Plus you have had wars with ALL of your neighbours.
    btw- when are you going to give back the land that you stole from Paraguay in 1871?
    And you also stole Patagonia from the Amerindians, after killing most of them of course.
    lf you think for one minute that we would want to join you(& let you steal OUR oil), then you have rocks in your head.
    As you have no rights here, have never owned this land,(so you would lose the case if it went to court), the only way that you could gain OUR land would be by invasion.
    l don't like your chances, but please try anyway.
    So NO, olibeira, you will NEVER be able to “seize” OUR land.

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  • Gordo1

    Olibeira - will you kindly let us know in which special needs establishment you are confined? I would like to advise the Supervisor that you have got hold of a laptop and you are posting nonsense on Mercopress.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @121 olibeira:
    Your statement is correct.

    The U.K. really does not care about the malvinas.

    The U.K. only cares about the Falkland Islands.

    What a cretin you are.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Diddles

    Slatzz and Isolde, thanks. Keep up the good work backing the Falkland Islanders. It's a very worthy cause, stopping a bully imposing their will upon a smaller neighbour.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @ Olibeira

    As a Brit who has never been to the islands or served in the armed forces I assume I must be the sort of Brit you think would happily give up on the islands if it was in my own interest? You would be greatly mistaken however. Even though the average Briton will never benefit directly from the FIs or its oil, indeed, even if it continues to cost everyone here a couple of pints a year in taxation in defence costs, Britain will not walk away. If you want to stir a deep emotion in the average Brit play them a tape of the radio coverage of the Falklands invasion in 82 where a massive military force invaded a tiny country and forced a young man at gunpoint to play the Argentine anthem over the radio. When Rex Hunt said that “Britain will be back” he spoke not only for the country but for all time. There would only be one thing that would cause Britain to leave and that would be if/when the islanders declare full independence. In fact, even if the islanders one day chose to join Argentina (don't hold your breath) we would at least be proud that we had defended their right to choose freely.

    It is this fundamental misunderstanding of the British psyche that has bedevilled the Argentines for so long.

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  • Gordo1

    For all the trolls - here are the words of a TRUE Argentino!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2287236/Argentine-Falklands-veteran-My-country-respect-wishes-Islanders.html

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @Gordo 7 Redrow:

    Good posts you two.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @161 Gordo

    Just when you think that nothing can shock you - that story about Turano and his mother is truly dreadful.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    I wonder how the trolls are going to deal with it! I bet “cipayo” features a lot in their ripostes!

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  • Escoses Doido

    Antonio Riveiro - Murdering vagabond. Today in argentina - a 'folk hero'
    (largely due to a book writen in the 1960's)

    Now these 'mongs' in '66 in the process of being 'made' folk heros.

    What is wrong with the population of argentina? Don't they have internet?

    Are they truly living inside a 'bubble'?

    Can't they (including the posters on here) see the reality?

    Christ on a bike, Argenina - Please Un-F**k yourselves!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    102 axel arg (#)
    When will you ever begin to get the message Argentina has no legitimate claim over the Islands just a lot of shouting because that is what Your government has always been good at.

    The Falkland Islanders are not telling you how it is because of Britain say so but because it is their home you are trying to take away. Your Country is a very greedy one and even prepared to stand on their own to achieve what they want.

    You and the vast majority of Argentine trouble makers have one thing in common that is you are all uneducated, brainwashed by the Nazism of your leaders. You have never learned how to love thy neighbour and until you start doing that you will always be at war with yourselves.

    The Falkland Islanders are not scared of you they have been very careful not to be seen as the aggressors and have only asked Great Britain to defend our rights to live as we choose. You know only to well that without military protection your government would invade us again and that is not something I am making up because unfortunately that is how your Country works.

    You should be very careful what you say when you make statements like the Islands will soon belong to Argentina because the only thing you are doing is driving a bigger wedge .

    I think you will find if push comes to real shove the free world will come out on our side to support our determination to live as we choose.
    Now answer me this question 102 axel arg (#)
    Would we not still be a colony wether Britain or Argentina had sovereignty over us. In the eyes of the world that is what you are saying decolonise so are you going to leave the Islands void of life.
    Bet you have no answer for that my friend.

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  • CaptainSilver

    Argentina is finished. It falls and falls and falls again. It's washed up knackered, broke, chaotic, its railways, roads, armed forces, police are falling apart. It's currency is falling, its international influence is confined to paraiah nations. Everyone is laughing at it. It will be taken over by Uraguay soon.

    Argentina washed up.

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  • Escoses Doido

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11997921

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    ........ The cartoneras are revolting, the villa miserias stink and now

    GOTCHA !

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4821864/Falklands-governor-launches-outspoken-attack-on-Argentina-as-Islanders-prepare-to-decide-their-fate.html

    Love the KFC pic - all that botox, lip gloss and turkey neck....ugh!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    LMAO - She (it?) looks like something out of the muppet show!

    Love it.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Baxter

    This discusión is , to put it politely , stupid . If the Argentine Government want the Falklands all they have to do is behave nicely to the people who live there . Allow them to visit Argentina , make it easy for the young to attend British schools in Buenos Aires and the sick the British Hospital . Establish a regular air service between the two . Impossible with this Government I know but in time perhaps ?

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @118 obliera

    “It is you that *are* dreaming” - looks like dodgy grammar to me - suspect you are an RG rather than a Brit. In which case, why do you care about our “falling” defence budget?

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    At least we 'have' a defence budget to speak about!!!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve-33-uk

    ''On yer bike, Argy liars - Governor's fury over jibes'
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4821864/Falklands-governor-launches-outspoken-attack-on-Argentina-as-Islanders-prepare-to-decide-their-fate.html

    'The government defies kelper Argentina: “They keep lying” - The governor of the islands, Nigel Haywood , denied that Britain has sent more nuclear submarines, and stressed the importance of the referendum . ” It is an opportunity to recognize 200 years of history''
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4821864/Falklands-governor-launches-outspoken-attack-on-Argentina-as-Islanders-prepare-to-decide-their-fate.html

    'The New York Times and a harsh article pact with Iran
    The prestigious American newspaper published a critical text of the agreement that the government promotes the AMIA bombing, compared to the Falklands War and it contrasts with the lawsuits against the repressive military dictatorship'
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4821864/Falklands-governor-launches-outspoken-attack-on-Argentina-as-Islanders-prepare-to-decide-their-fate.html

    Corrupt RG Govt...
    'Ciccone scandal: a web of power, money and ambition - Give him what he asks, he ordered the then Economy Minister Amado Boudou, close friend and one lifetime partner, José María Núñez Carmona.'
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4821864/Falklands-governor-launches-outspoken-attack-on-Argentina-as-Islanders-prepare-to-decide-their-fate.html

    German article below...
    'Falklands decide on fate in the UK'
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4821864/Falklands-governor-launches-outspoken-attack-on-Argentina-as-Islanders-prepare-to-decide-their-fate.html

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  • Steveu

    @169 You're right - that photo could scare a lot of grown men

    I think Nigel Heywood is right - it is time to stop pandering to the RG nonsense. Namely:

    1) The Argentinians have failed to prove their version of events in 1833. The British account holds up. Either our events are correct or they are British by virtue of conquest - as, of course, this is how Argentina got its territory so what'sthe difference? In any case, despite any clever semantics and sophistry, the Treaty of 1850 confirms the status quo

    2) The Islands are also British by prescription with no serious challenge for over ninety years

    3) The UN cannot rule on sovereignty as the dispute pre-dates 1945 - all it can do is suggest that the UK and Argentina sit down over a “nice cup of tea” and try and work together. The UK has made it clear that this will only happen with the consent of the islanders and with them present at the negotiations.

    4) For its part, Argentina has confused the word “dialogue” and actually demands (their favourite word) “monologue” - actually it should be a “trialogue”. Argentina has made it illegal to negotiate sovereignty as part of its constitution so any such negotiations would just be a one-way haranguing session.

    5) Argentina still has to explain how the hell it can claim sovereignty over S Georgia and the S Sandwich islands

    In short, we have to treat the RG claim as a joke and give it the contempt it deserves - our biggest mistake has been to take it seriously. Once the referendum has been held we should have a policy of no discussion with Argentina - pointing out that they missed their chance when Timerman was recently in London for the “empty chair” meeting. Stonewalling them would make them go away - even if it put SA against us. We should reward those countries that give practical help and make clear that our beef is with Argentina and its irrational behaviour only.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    @161 Of course he has a feel for what should be done. He was a conscript with a conscience at Fox Bay, the site of the AR's illegal gulag for citizens of Stanley who the fascist war criminals in charge, miles and miles away from their families. It's unfortunate that his letter may never see the full light of day in the AR media. I will be pleasantly surprised if it does.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @49 Not in the next ten thousand years!
    @50 But then all argie meat is contaminated with banned “veterinary” drugs and all argie fruit and veg is contaminated with chemicals. Some of which make people ill or dead if they come into contact with the sprays.
    @52 Dreamin'.
    @65 Seen your “ice cream delivery”. Used it in '82, didn't you? Watched your “soldiers” melt!
    @73 I agree. Not least because I've said it many times before!
    @85 Doubt it. The on-station flight will have their ROE. Probably to force it down if possible. Otherwise shoot it down.
    @102 Tell you what, dumdum, why don't we get together, sit down and have a discussion about the sovereignty of argieland? We'd like to acquire it. By my reckoning the occupations by British forces in 1806/7 give the UK as much right to argieland as the argie trespassing on the Falklands gives argieland to the Falklands. We acted first so we have to settle the sovereignty of argieland first. There will be NO negotiations on Falklands sovereignty until that is done. You can forget the ICJ now. You had your chances. You blew them all!
    @104 Why, is it a new style for a tarpaulin? But it could be cut up for toilet wipes!
    @105 Forget it!
    @113 You could have the Falklands. Or you could have peace. Choose!
    @121 Nope!
    @123 Argies are responsible for their history. All of it. You don't get to pick and choose. Argieland is “home” to 40 million war criminals.
    @126 Are you going to be in the “invasion force”? Looking foward to dying?
    @129 No, it's a terminal military.
    @133 Try some REAL facts. Go compare the sizes of the British armed forces to the argie equivalents. And, at the end, there's always the Trident missiles!
    @142 Try again. Please. I will be telling my government to aim for 60,000 argie dead.
    @160 Well said! I can shoot. How about you? I'd be willing to travel down there and fight! How about we work on the principle that the only good argie is a dead argie?

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  • Bipolar Obama

    Comment removed by the editor.

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  • ChrisR

    I loved the 'pre-cancer' picture of TMBOA: what a bleeding ugly cow she is.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @178 Bam:

    What, slums like this?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_miseria

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 04:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    #178

    Argentina finished!

    You talk slum? What bout villas all over Arg - stinking mess. Falkland Islands nice place, very British, no sign Botox old boot. All Args run away scared.

    Up yours, go see Proctologist you talking through wrong hole!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    171 Baxter
    “This discusión is , to put it politely , stupid ”.

    That depends on whether you mean the slanging match on Mercopress or the slanging match between the UK, Argentina and the Falklands governments. The slanging press on Mercopress is stupid and pointless because most threads deteriorate into gutter trash and none of it will make a difference to the eventual outcome of the dispute. The slanging match between our governments is all reactionary to Argentina's attempts to change the status quo and is far from stupid (unless you count CFK's initiation of it).

    “If the Argentine Government want the Falklands all they have to do is behave nicely to the people who live there.”

    You make it sound simple but you forget the islands aren't theirs. Of course they should behave nicely towards us but that won't make us give them our home.

    “Allow them to visit Argentina , make it easy for the young to attend British schools in Buenos Aires and the sick the British Hospital”

    There is nothing stopping us from visiting Argentina and nothing stopping Argentines from visiting the Falklands. I'm sure there wold also be nothing from stopping us from using their schools and hospitals if we wanted to but we don't want or need to. I visit Argentina most years and so do many of my friends. I have friends in Argentina who visit me in the Falklands most years.

    “Establish a regular air service between the two . Impossible with this Government I know but in time perhaps?”

    The CFK government wrote to the UK government offering a twice weekly air service last year. We told her we didn't want it. We would like the trusted and reliable LAN service to operate more often but Argentina refuses to give permission.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @183 Joe

    I am always baffled by Argentina “giving permission” for the LAN flight. For sure they would need to give permission to overfly their territory (although usually only pariah states like Iran and N Korea usually deny access to their airspace) but using a larger plane like an Airbus A319, it could fly around the southern tip - even if it made the flight more expensive and, therefore, needed to be subsidised by FIG (or even evertually run by FIG with all that luvverly oil revenue - if it happens)

    I guess the RG's need the service so that relatives of their '82 conflict fallen can visit the war memorial - hence the stop at Rio Gallegos once a month

    Just curious?

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  • olibeira

    Argentina is growing. That's your problem.

    You don't get the facts.

    You can keep dreaming.

    Argentina owns Malvinas so the UK will leave either way.

    That'a the ugly truth.

    You armed forces would be wiped out in a matter of hours.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    183 Steveu

    Like you say, there are ways around it from a flight permission point of view. About 3 different ways in fact but if we did that Argentina would simply put commercial pressure on LAN. They do a lot more business in Argentina than they do with us.

    The stop once a month in Argentina is just a political stunt that Argentina pays for. Sure that's where next of kin visitors get on but only a few times per year. The rest of the time the flight picks up and drops off nobody bar the odd Argie or visitor who actually wants to go that way. Many flights throughout the year do no business with that stop (apart from Argentina paying for it to happen each month). It currently costs Argentina about 10 times the amount it would cost them if they simply flew the NOK pax to the Falklands via Chile twice per year. An essential service for their people or a political stunt?

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    Good luck to the brits.

    They will lose Malvinas either way.

    Yeah, that's right.

    You can insult me but you can't fight the truth.

    So keep on insulting.

    I like to see all the trolls getting all worked up.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    I've thought about this before too, and I don't even think diverting the flight path down over cape horn would add much to the fuel bill.

    How does the airspace work there at the entrance to the Magellan straight even?

    It looks like that area has to be 'shared' airspace. Look how close the Chilean border actually is to the Atlantic.

    I'm not sure argentina even have the authority to stop Chilean aircraft using that particular piece of airspace.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 06:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    187 Escoses Doido

    There is no doubt that there are ways to do it keeping compliant with international air law but finding a carrier who'll want to go that route (I don't mean air route) is another matter. We don't want the LAN service to end but we have alternatives if needs must and those alternative options are expanding as other developments in the region make them possible.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 06:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @184 oliebera
    Growing because...every sperm is precious? Or do you plan more invasions? Then again, being an argentine malvinista you've most probably not reached first base yet ;-)

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    189, sorry but the truth is harsh.

    Pack your bags before its too late.

    The brits are going away either way.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @190
    Prove it. Prove everything you have just said. You don't provide any evidence for your statements so we can't take your idle threats very seriously.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    I have just realised who this fucking idiot olibeira is:

    ”You(r) armed forces would be wiped out in a matter of hours.”

    Ha, ha, it's Dunny-Burgers sister!

    It's just got to be with that level of idiocy and lack of understanding what the UK can / has got in the waters of their coast: death on the push of a button for all Malvanistas.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @192
    Oh yeah! I thought I recognised that poor use of Spelling and belief that Argentine some how...snigger snigger..has a better armed forces than the UK.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @192 ChrisR

    I must complain at the recent quality of RG trolls

    Can we have fresh ones please (like when you leave your towel in the bath when you stay in a hotel when you want new ones)

    My towel is in the bath, so to speak....

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    we see the argie comedy show is well and truly on,

    still,
    as long as they get laught at,
    they know not .lol.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    174 to the woman dreesed with the flag............jajaajaj
    nice that the flag covers her....

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @190 oliebera
    You will face the truth very shortly and it will be painful for you. Britain will Keep Calm and Carry On.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Escoses Doido

    @197:
    Women not your thing then?

    Don't worry were not prejudiced regarding peoples sexual orientation on here.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Has anyone ever notices that the anagram of “argentino” is “ignorante”?

    It certainly applies in the case of Olibeiro!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    A woman of lies ,
    she even belives her own dreams.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    184 olibeira

    Keep dreaming, thats all losers can do because they're impotent to effect any change.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    194 Steveu

    Is there someone we can complain to????

    Is there a box we can tick? you know how on x-box games where they say “Please select the level of difficulty” and you can tick Easy / Normal or Hardcore????

    So far I think we have passed through “Normal” and are into the “Easy” option.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Baxter

    182 Joe Bloggs . Obviously you did not understand my comments . What I was trying to say , not very clearly it would seem , is that if the Argentine Government changed táctics and behaved more decently the Falklanders could be more willing to discusión the future in a decent and civilized way . The UK will always defend the islands but a honest discusión would be useful .

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  • LXN_89

    the british are the idiots they knew that resuming diplomatic relations with the argies will cause the continous dispute for the falk-slum-lands.
    UK PM Cameron crying about the “argentine goverment harassment” demostrates his small mind.
    the same “circus-circus” deplomatic relations will continue until argentina decides to attack the islanders again in order to break the relations and
    expel all the brits within 48 hours!
    Viva Argentina!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    204 LXN_89

    “UK PM Cameron crying about the “argentine goverment harassment” demostrates his small mind”

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    “until argentina decides to attack the islanders again in order to break the relations and expel all the brits within 48 hours!”

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll say it again because what you have written is so funny!!!

    Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @204
    Attack in 48 hours? Well for that you will need an armed force made up os ships that cant actually float, planes that will fly and troops that are trained....oh wait you don't have any of that and Britain does.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @174

    Where can I get one of those “Sun flags”?

    That young woman wrapped in the flag - great photo!!!!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @203 Baxter,
    lt is far, far too late for that now.
    The moment has passed long ago.
    Argentina had its chance, but blew it.
    Even if Argentina started being sugary-sweet, we remember the poison.
    So, you couldn't intimidate us, you are going be all lovey-dovey.
    Don't you think that you should have tried that first?
    The answer is NO.
    @204 LXN_89,
    Go back to sleep, ldiota.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Joe Bloggs

    208 Isolde

    The way you're addressing Baxter you seem to think he's an Argie. I hardly come on here any more so I've only noticed him today. Has he been posting for a while?

    Hardly anyone I know comes on here any more and to be honest, they are far better for it than I sometimes feel. It's easy to start to think that all of this crap on here is important and that the Mercopress news is actually making the news elsewhere. Well, as you know, most times it's not.

    I'm down to about an hour a week on here now and after the blow flies settle down after the referendum I think I'll give it up all together.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    207 Troy Tempest

    Yeah, yeah..... I have so got to get me one of those!!!!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    I always find it amusing that these Argentine trolls make such stupid and extremely impotent boasts, such as the mythical Malvinas will be theirs in 48hrs.

    Well they can have the mythical Malvinas, the Falkland Islands however are British, and will remain British until the Falkland Islanders choose otherwise.

    Not long now...Self-determination rocks!

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Now answer me this question 102 axel arg (#)
    Would we not still be a colony wether Britain or Argentina had sovereignty over us. In the eyes of the world that is what you are saying decolonise so are you going to leave the Islands void of life.
    Bet you have no answer for that my friend.

    102 axel arg (#) Still waiting for your answer or are you stuck for one.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    Hey, one those Sun flags, wrap it round this please http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01683/SNN0308CUT--_1683733a.jpg

    Better idea put these pictures all round coast frighten off penguins or Arg invader

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    I see brazil is now nuclearising South America

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/125385/brazil-launches-programme-to-build-nuke-submarine

    I wonder what rg land says about that.

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steveu

    @209 Joe Bloggs

    I have to say I agree. There are a few worthwhile discussions but some of the threads are fairly pointless mud slinging.

    Still...roll on the referendum. Should be good for the Islanders and very bad for CFK

    Mar 03rd, 2013 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

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  • British_servant

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  • slattzzz

    @216 You couldn't kill time you prick

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @217

    ...and I predict 12/13/13 Teletubbies will mass for an attack against Mendoza.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 04:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Martin Woodhead

    So exactly ho are you goingbto get this mythical force to the Falklands take on 4 of the best fast jets on the planet a modern warship?
    A dug in infantry company with fire and forget anti tank weapons .
    On the islands you go by air, stick to a road or have something lie a bv202 anything else just gets bogged in.
    Most of the tom clancy stye pans for argentina to seize mpa depend on the entire garrison being asleep and argentina being super ninjas.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 06:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Martin

    @217 is “Sussie” the pederast dummy troll - only a little smarter than PH ALEX

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @220 Martin

    Sussie also conveniently forgets that the UKs rapid reaction force could be on the Islands within 24 hours.

    Certainly if we got intel that the Argies (or anyone else for that matter) were planning on invading, the reaction force would be mobilised immediately, and they would be followed within days by those units on High Readiness.

    Besides, they won't dare invade (assuming the had the capability to get to the Islands, which they don't) because of all the nuclear submarines that the UK apparently has tooling around the South Atlantic. It must be true, the Argies said they were there. ;D

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 06:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    102 axel arg (#) Still waiting for your answer or are you stuck for one.
    seems when a real question is put in front of you , you dissapear just like every other Argie fanatic that writes in these columns. Just a simple question to you and your trolls was.
    “Would we not still be a colony wether Britain or Argentina had sovereignty over us. In the eyes of the world that is what you are saying decolonise so are you going to leave the Islands void of life. ”

    Your failure to answer in truth leaves no doubt the the Islanders are 110% right and you know it.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @209 Joe Bloggs,
    l thought Baxter was an RG. He/she/it sounds like one.
    No matter.
    Like you, l am beginning to taper off on this site.
    There is never any thoughtfull debating from the RGs, just the usual,
    “lts mine, so why won't you give it to me”? attitude.
    And bringing up completely irrelevant facts or lying.
    They are good at lying.
    The trouble is that after a while they believe their own lies.
    Anyway, soon it won't matter.
    “The whole world”(another of their favourite phrases!)will realise that after the Referendum, this land is OURS & we want very little to do with Argentina.
    Hopefully they will soon implode. That, l would like to see!
    Have you noticed that squirmy señor Think has gone quiet?
    Even he must have finally realised that he's been flogging a dead horse. lol!

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 08:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Raul

    ! Excellent speech by the president of all Argentines

    “Insist dialogue with the Argentine president said,” We believe that diplomacy is the only thing we have to defend peace “and stressed that” yes, we want sovereignty over the islands, but we in peace “, a value that no speech ”.

    This is what international law and world public opnion required. Dialogue to resolve the conflicts generated by English colonialism and imperialism.

    And peace is important “because we had nothing to do with the Argentine dictatorship and suffered and endured all repudiate” and was involved in military adventure in the Islands.

    Nestor and Cristina Kirchner sent to jail for genocidal military. It was an act of great courage and justice.

    Argentine President then went to add how it was that the UK authorities could sit and have a dialogue with those responsible for genocide ”, but refuse to talk with the democratic governments elected by the people and have made ​​the defense of human rights its flag?

    As we continue with the declassification of documents war is increasingly evident that before the 1982 war the U.S. and UK military helped in the implementation of state terrorism.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    225 Raul

    “This is what international law ... ... required”

    Wrong again, international law is absolutely in the UK's side. T hat possibility a legal hearing is lost to Argentina for ever, through her own failure to bring suit in a timely fashion. So she had ceded the Islands to the UK as a result prior to 1982.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    225 Raul (#)
    Mar 04th, 2013 - 02:07 pm

    “Nestor and Cristina Kirchner sent to jail for genocidal military.”

    Raúl, you are a downright liar, Nestor Kirchner was imprisoned by the Junta for a toal of 5 days! Cristina was never imprisoned, she and Nestor COLABORATED with the milícos and made the basis of their ill-gotten fortune through executing 1050 debtors and taking over their property!!!!!

    If you are going to try to justify the injustifiable, at least do so using the truth and not government sponsered lies!!!!!!

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    225
    you do rubbish it sometimes,
    only the other day your CFK is honering a flag, used by briminals to land on the islands,

    pot kettle black.
    they are british and will remain british,
    and will never be handed over to a dictatership.

    simple as that.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    KELPER ABOUT. TERENCE HILL.
    Kelper: As i tod you in another comment, if you think that just our politicians omit information before the u. n., or before any other international forum, then it means that you have been perfectly indoctrinated by your so loved british empire.
    Our claim is not a colonial ambition, like many of you love repeating all the time. I already told you in another comment what are the bases of our claim, and why i think that perhaps the u. k. had right to occupy the islands in virtue of some relevant facts. However, if the u. k. deprived arg. of exercising it's rights over the islands, instead of negotiating a solution with our country, then you can't compare our claim with a colonial ambition.
    Accept it or not, this case is much more complicated than the tipical ignorant and mediocre comments that many of you usually express.
    C. f. k. read last year at the u. n., a secret proposal treated between both nations in 1974, which took into account the wishes of the islanders of remaining under british govt., and argentina's rights. Maybe it's time to reconsider a proposal like that one of 1974, which respects the wishes and the rights of both nations, not just your's.
    Terence: It's hightly arguabe to say that prescription should be applied for this cause. I already told you this in another comment. Despite the intervalls in our claim, the u. k. tried to find a solution with arg. in 1968, 1974 and in 1980. So, if the u. k. tried to negotiated with arg., it's very arguable to express that prescription should be applied for this case.
    On the other hand, it would be honest to take into account the huge economic dependence that arg. had with the u. k. during XIX century, and for more than 100 years, so, it was obvious that it wasn't in conditions for claiming the empire for it's rights over the islands, don't you think?. Beside, don't forget about the proposals of arbitration that both countries manifested in different moments.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    Peaceful Argentines: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/02/article-2287236-11912325000005DC-466_634x425.jpg

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    All countries that use violence to get what they want,

    Cannot then use the peaceful option when they lose,

    Argentina lost,
    You lost all rights if any to claim anything.
    .

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    @ 184 olibeira

    “Argentina is growing. ... You[r] armed forces would be wiped out in a matter of hours.”

    It seems that Groucho Marx has been resurrected as Tobias :-D
    . . .

    Argentina can have the Malvinas any time they want them.

    The Falkland Islands stay as a British BIOT as long as the Falkland Islanders want it to be so.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @229 Axel,
    Unfortunately for you Axel, Argentina has NO RIGHTS in the Falklands.
    Do you get that, Axel? You have NO RIGHTS here. ldiota.
    @184 olibeira,
    You feel strong? Try your luck! Another ldiota.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    Malvinas belong to Argentina

    You can say what you want but you have to face the facts.

    The UK simply can't defend Malvinas. They will lose it forever.

    Better to save face and hand it to Argentina now.

    At least the islands are going to belong to a country that's growing instead of the recession struck UK.

    Mar 04th, 2013 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    229 axel arg.

    It doesn't matter about the UN resolutions as there is no legal power of enforcement, they are merely advisements. Nor does it matter about prior negotiations they would be inadmissible in a court hearing as privileged information. What is of critical importance is who holds the legal sovereignty, because that is legal mountain that no power on earth can change. Argentina has ceded the Islands to UK under the doctrine of extinct prescription, many years ago through her own neglect. You can tell me your opinion all you want, it's meaningless as you are not an expert. I have shown two international law experts, plus a former president of the ICJ whom I rely on as definitive opinions of support.

    234 olibeira

    Dream on, that's all losers can do.

    Mar 05th, 2013 - 01:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    I absolutely agree that Malvinas belong to Argentina.

    Go get them - if you can find them.

    The Falkland Islands, on the other hand, are -as everybody knows - a self-governing British BIOT.

    Mar 05th, 2013 - 03:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @234 - oliberia

    If Argentina is so sure that the Falklands (there is no such place as Malvinas) are yours, why don't you PROVE it by taking it to the ICJ.

    The UK has offered on THREE seperate occasions to refer this dispute to the ICJ but Argentina REFUSED each time. Then you decided not to bother talking anymore by INVADING the Falklands in 1982 and threatening to murder all the inhabitants.

    That act alone means that no SANE person on the planet would trust Argentina.

    You lost, you blew it, and now all you can do is issue impotent threats, that make you appear even more pathetic in the eyes of the world.

    Mar 05th, 2013 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    TERENCE HILL.
    This is evident that you dont' want to analyse this question seriouslly.
    If you think that because you have the opinions of two experts, you have the definitive answer for this dispute, let me tell you are very wrong.
    If we make a serious and deep analysis of this question, we can't ignore that the application of prescription is very arguable.
    I already told you in anoher comment what are the the conditions, according to the international right in order to invoke the principle of prescription.
    On the other hand, if arg. lost it's rights over the isands, like you say in your comments, because of it's intervalls in it's claims, then why did'nt the u. k. include the malvinas-falklands in the proposal of arbitration in 1947?, why did it try to negotiate with arg. with the purpose of finding a solution for this conflict in 1968, 1974 and 1980?, why none of the two nations proposed again to take the dispute to the i. c. j after 1947?.
    I respect your opinion, but i really dont agree on your analysis. Everybody have right to think whatever they want, but the facts are much more important than our opinions, and they show that beyond everybody's expressions, this is evident that the case has strong and weak aspects for both nations.
    The only one positive aspects of your comments, is that unless you aren't reactionary, like so many people in this forum who just insult deliberatly, or make such decadent analysis, that's why i never answer their comments, i have already wasted a lot of time with those mediocre people, and i could never get any interesting interchange of opinions.

    Mar 05th, 2013 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • GFace

    And the speech went on for 3 2/3 hours. That room needed a little Miss Sweetie Poo

    http://youtu.be/xAnVNXaa5oA

    Mar 05th, 2013 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    238 axel arg
    I post the opinion of two experts , plus a former president of the ICJ. You dismiss their findings out of hand, but you don't offer a counter view from a recognized authority. Your previous post was about the application of acquisitive prescription, not extinctive prescription, apples and oranges.

    Extinctive prescription applies to Argentine failure to make a claim to an appropriate legal tribunal post 1920, not before that date. Here is an expert legal opinion as to why UK filed only the Dependancies and not the Islands with the ICJ.

    'It is reasonable to assume that Great Britain acquired definitive title (1947) to the Islands at this time.176
    176 As Great Britain rightly could consider that it had acquired title to the Islands by the mode of extinctive prescription, it had no need to file a brief concerning the Islands. It was concerned about Argentina and Chile acquiring title by prescription to the Islands Dependencies; therefore, Great Britain took the necessary action to stop the maturing of title by filing the application with the International Court of Justice.
    The Falklands (Malvinas) Islands: An International Law Analysis of the Dispute Between Argentina and Great Britain by James Francis Gravelle.

    The UK attempted to negotiate a settlement with Argentina not because they didn't hold sovereignty, but the prevailing view of one of the main political parties was to divest the UK of it's empire. I think the UK knows it absolutely holds sovereignty, so it doesn't have to do anything, because nothing can be legally changed.

    Mar 05th, 2013 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • olibeira

    The UK is in recession.

    Argentina is growing.

    Argentina will take those islands by force if needed.

    The UK will be defeated anyway.

    So just don't dream and face the facts.

    Go Argentina.

    Mar 05th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Fantastic

    It is to be expected that CFK would naively want to appropriate the Falkland Islands “peacefully”. She knows full well that any other way would lead to another wholesale bollocking and the replay of the embarrassment of a public thrashing of argentina. Anyway, they'd have to get past the hordes of debt collectors first. Then there's the problem of the clapped out argentine navy.........................

    Mar 05th, 2013 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @241
    “Argentina will take those islands by force if needed”

    Try it

    Will you travel in the lead ship-the Liberturd?

    Mar 06th, 2013 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @241 - olibeira

    “Argentina will take those islands by force if needed”

    That's the funniest thing I've heard all day. LMFAO

    Saying something and having the capacity to do something are too completely different things.

    Argentina is militarily impotent, and the whole world knows it. That's why your President 1st tried to get the British to remove our military protection (like anyone with half a brain would've done that) because it's far easier to invade somewhere that isn't defended.

    When that 'cunning' plan didn't work, she tried economic terrorism against the Islands, which...quite frankly didn't work. Now she's going for the 'All I want is peace, and to talk,' strategy, which even a blind man can see through, since she has been given the chance to talk over and over and over, with the only people who can decide the future of the Falkland Islands: the Islanders themselves. The moment she refused, the world look on and thought: 'so she doesn't really want to talk at all.'

    Like so many times, the moment your President opens her mouth, she just embarrasses Argentina further on the international stage. The world thinks Argentina is a joke, and don't take anything your government say seriously.

    And the final nail in her coffin, was when she sold out her own people to get into bed with the Iranians, the people responsible for the deaths of 85 Argentine citizens, and the wounding of many more.

    Like your impotent statements, your government, is a joke.

    Mar 06th, 2013 - 06:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    TERENCE HILL.
    I already answer you about extinctive prescription in another comment. On the other hand, in my investigation i have opinions of different professors of international right, that's why i think that what you say is very arguable. After i finish cheking my survey, i will send it to you by i mail. I have to chek it again.

    Mar 06th, 2013 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pete Bog

    @234
    “Malvinas belong to Argentina”

    Fine, and the Falkland Islands belong to the Falkland Islanders.

    Just out of interest matey boy, what plants grow in the Malvinas and what animals, live there.

    Do you have unicorns in the Malvinas?

    Yours, geekingly

    Peter 'Bumper Jack' Bog

    Mar 06th, 2013 - 05:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • AzaUK

    the only territorial dispute there is over the Falklands was the one in 1829, however they were removed by 1833

    Mar 06th, 2013 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Ha ha ha, Axel & his stupid survey!
    How many years has it been now, Axel?
    You should preface your survey with:-
    “This document is a work of Fiction”!
    lt won't wash Axel, because Argentina has NO RIGHTS here.

    Mar 06th, 2013 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    he needs a new set of wheels.lol.

    Mar 06th, 2013 - 10:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @245 Axel

    You say, “in my investigation i have opinions of different professors of international right.”

    Yet Terrance has provided links to his evidence as proof. You just make statements and say you have opinions of different professors, yet you fail to provide any information regarding these people, not even their names, and no links to a website where their 'opinion' can be read independently.

    Now academically failure to back up a statement with evidence would be seen as a big 'fail'. Legally failure to back up a statement with evidence would be seen as inadmissible.

    So come on Axel, where is your proof that these 'professors' said this. No evidence means that your 'argument' is just your opinion, and while you have the right to your own opinion, it would never stand up in a court of law, or at the UN or anywhere except your mind.

    So answer Terrance by providing links to your professors who 'back up' your spurious claims to the Falkland Islands.

    Failure to do so, means that you are telling porkie pies.

    Mar 07th, 2013 - 06:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    Axel always tells lies about the Falklands,
    Hell ALL these malvinistas tell lies.
    Can anyone guess who the biggest malvinista liar is?
    lts not Raul, but he does come close.

    Mar 07th, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    LEPRECOM.
    If you read my comment again, you'll see that i said that after i finish cheking my survey, i'll send it by i mail to terence, or to anybody else, in fact, some people in this forum have already my investigation since 2011, but i am cheking it again, because i do it twice a year, beside, i realized i didn't date complitly some of the sources, thats' why i need to chek my whole work, and send it again to all the people who have already my survey. I think i'll finish it for april. When all the work is done, i'll type my i mail adress in some of my comments, and everybody will write me, so i send them my work, including you.

    Mar 07th, 2013 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisR

    @ 252 Isolde

    I have determined the biggest liar on MP and have named him for some while:

    'I Don't Think' aka The Turnip In Chief aka The Biggest Liar on MP

    Takes a while to type but well worth the effort to get things right. :o)

    Mar 07th, 2013 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @253 ChrisR,
    Ah do believe yo' could be right, Chris.

    Mar 07th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    all the other argies are meer children.

    Mar 07th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @252 Axel When all the work is done, i'll type my i mail adress in some of my comments, and everybody will write me, so i send them my work, including you. yeah you really THINK we will fall for that pish so you can get peoples E-mail addresses try harder you knob, are you Sussie in disguise

    Mar 07th, 2013 - 08:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @256 slattzzz,
    You can open a separate temporary email address then cancel it after receiving Axel's useless “survey” if you're really interested.
    My kids have opened such an address for me in the past.
    l don't know how to do it!
    Also there is another way of having your IP address “piggybacked” onto another address, so that your location cannot be traced.
    l admit that the method is beyond me, but any good IT person could do it for you.
    Personally l couldn't give a rat's arse about Axel's “survey”!
    lf its anything like his ridiculous ravings then it won't be worth reading anyway!

    Mar 07th, 2013 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    “We want sovereignty over the Malvinas, but in peace”, Cristina Fernandez tells Congress

    So she says today........ and then tomorrow she will change her mind and say something different. There is absolutely no trust in that woman at all.

    And unless the Falkland Islanders themselves have VERY short memories ( and I bet that they don't ) they can all remember what Argentina's idea of “peaceful sovereignty” amounts too. So I just bet that they are not buying it either.....

    241 olibeira

    Arn't you sick of being wrong EVERY time you post a comment on this forum. I mean, unless you enjoy having each and every one of your posts laughed at then I really don't see why you are no here...

    Tell you what, tomorrow is a new day right? amaze us all and post an intelligent comment, go on...knock yourself out, the floor is yours......

    Mar 07th, 2013 - 11:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • LEPRecon

    @252 - axel

    A survey is based on peoples opinions, it is not evidence of anything BUT their opinions. So sending your opinion...er survey is meaningless.

    You said that you had Professors who had opinions. Well opinions are nice, but they are not evidence. So unless those Professors have evidence (some research) to back up their opinions you survey is meaningless.

    So in order for the opinions of your Professors to hold any weight, you should provide their names, their occupations, and link any research that they have done that would support their opinion.

    Otherwise your 'survey' is a chocolate teapot. Nice to look at, but no use for the purpose for which it was designed.

    Axel. Go back to drawing board. Must try harder next time.

    Mar 08th, 2013 - 06:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/falklands-rights-and-referendum-on-sovereignty-88584.html

    Mar 08th, 2013 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    LEPRECOM.
    My survey is a compilation of extracts of different works made by professors of international right, but in the end of my investigation, i made my own analysis, and conclusions which are based on the whole work.
    Some of the books that i used are, Las islas Malvinas y el derecho internacional. by Enrrique Ferrer vieyra.
    Segunda cronología anotada sobre la cuestión Malvinas (Falkland islands). By Enrrique Ferrer Vieyra.

    Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Well siad Cristina, hopefully the isalnders will recognise her democratic credentials and realise, as this article put so well I thought, that they have nothing to fear and everything to gain... http://socialistunity.com/falkland-islanders-should-vote-no-in-referendum-on-british-sovreignty/

    Mar 10th, 2013 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @262BK
    “Well siad Cristina... ”

    LOL, BK, do ALL your posts start that way??

    Otherwise, another completely empty post from you, to round off the thread.

    Are you so lazy, or so disdainful of the Islanders, that you cannot be bothered to even attempt to argue the points in the thread?
    Not that I blame you, as the Argentine position is usually very obviously, indefensible.

    However, your pattern, regardless of the subject, is to:
    1) PRAISE CFK (optional to call her “beautiful, lovely, radiant, gifted, wise” etc.)
    2) praise her actions/position or those of her government/particular minister as correct or morally correct, for the same of the people/economy/ islanders/ British, whatever.

    BTW, - what “democratic credentials”????

    LOL!!!!

    Mar 10th, 2013 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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