MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Demand for US to recognize the Falklands and support the referendum
By Harold Briley, London
A demand that President Obama should stop siding with Argentina in the Falkland Islands dispute and instead fully back Britain and the Islanders has been made by a team of eminent US academics. In a sustained attack, they condemn United States policies as hypocritical and dangerous by claiming a posture of neutrality while supporting Argentina, which is conducting a campaign of “bullying intimidation, aggression, coercion and confrontation”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesi do agree with this statement.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 10:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0back later.
“I demand your support”
Mar 08th, 2013 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's a way too...
well i'm in the wrong job I just said that on another thread
Mar 08th, 2013 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 too imperialistic?
Mar 08th, 2013 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@4 and your to stupid
Mar 08th, 2013 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the eyes of history,
Mar 08th, 2013 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would not the USA benefit from future generations seeing and learning the
Words [USA ,UK ]
Rather than the words [USA Argentina]
Mr Obama the future of democracy as far as friendship and allies ,and military co-operation is in your hands,
We would welcome you, but we will never beg you,
You put Argentina, as a close ally and military power of the USA,
And yet CFK does nothing but humiliate you, she hates America, she snuggles up to your enemies,
And tries to turn other South America countries against you,
May we suggest you support your closest allies before you lose them?
For CFK will never ever send her military to aid or help America troops,
She will use you, as she has used everybody who would listen to her.
At the end of the day it will boil down to either
Great Britain, or Argentina,
Your choice,
We know you don’t speak for decent Americans,
Just an honest opinion….
.
Oh dear. what a bad week for CFK, the death of Chav, referendum looming, and now this,
Mar 08th, 2013 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The USA will probably come off the fence after the referendum, but its just a matter of time. the UK and USA have too many common interests for them not to eventually
In his last statement Kerry left things open. When the referendum result is announced I do expect a more positive stance from the US. This helps clarify things. Let's just wait and see. I think the US will support SELF DETERMINATION. That is what the US has been built on.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Roll on Monday! All the best to the Islanders from a fellow 'pirate' !
The Falklanders should be driving this through lobbying Congress and Senate. The need to have a permanent mission here dedicated to promote travel, trade and any other political ideas they want to get across.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 11:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Arg embassy folks have been shut out of basically every meeting at State and Prez, they are not liked and it shows.
It wouldn't take much to get a few influential people on their side to push the recognition through.
Obama needs to grow a pair and put his foot down on something. If he had even the slightest clue what was going on here, he would understand that the Falklanders made up their mind and that needs to be respected.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 11:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9 I agree however Obama needs to come out and actually state the facts, there should be no need for the islanders to cosy up to him, we have been and remain your stauncist and loyal allies, as you are ours, we fight side by side all over the world and I personally think obamas stance on the falklands is a bit of a slap in the face both to Britain and the Falklands, I know Obama is not Britains biggest fan due to his African links but someone should be advising him. As they say “better together” because very few others in the world likes us, by us I mean UK/US/CANADA/OZ and NZ, but heyho thats what makes us great. We should have a UK/US/CANADA/OZ and NZ alliance and fook the rest of them, they never support us anyway
Mar 08th, 2013 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9, Totally agree,
Mar 08th, 2013 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 good Idea, but this includes only the english speaking developed world in your alliance think we have to be a bit more flexible.
At the end of the day if this garners open support in the USA, then ARG has only itself to blame they have waisted 30 years of co-operation opportunities but on the world diplomatic stage they act like immature children, just to play to the popular vote back home and not act and deal with the situation in an adult manner.
@12 i hope your right and they are exposed as the immature idiots that they are being at the moment
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0By next week the Referendum will be over with the expected result giving the world clear details of what the Falkland Islanders wish. Any Nation that ignores those wishes or fail to recognise the islanders rights to self determination are playing a very dangerous game in politics and are leaving theirselves open to accusations of going against the most cherished of human rights, to live in peace and freedom under the Government of their choice and to determine their own future. If the USA under Obama continue to sit on the fence and show pure ignorance as to the truth of the islands history and the truth as to Argentina's spurious claims then they will loose the trust of long lasting friends and allies. This is Obama's opportunity to do the right thing and put his real friends and thus his own citizens first. Britain and the Falkland Islands will continue to defend its interests with or without the support of the USA, thus, it is simply academic and only the proper and rightful recognition of the sovereign rights of the people of the Falkland Islands that are being sought.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Excellent item but will OBarma even consider the contents?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was inconcievable to me that OBarma and Hilary Clinton took this stance and it showed their lack of understnding of Argentina and TMBOA in particular.
If they do not get off the fence in the UKs favour we should rethink our actions in support of them as they would clearly be against us.
It is a very simple choice; an old friend or a mad woman who does her best to embarass the USA.
My own feelings of this despicable American President is well known and I believe his views of the UK are badly distorted by the memory of his Muslimist father and do not represent the feelins of the American people towards the British.
It will not be much longer before he will HAVE to make his mind up.
Yes folks its the Heritage Foundation again These are the very same neocons that brought us the Iraq war - a war which leaving aside any moral considerations, is recognized as one of the US's greatest foreign policy blunders of all time. Fortunately, these idiots have no influence in Washington any more.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0The policy that the US is following has been the policy for a long time. Why the US should abandon America in order to support a European power these “academics” do no adequately explain - especially in the light of the “Pivot to Asia”.
I see it now.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Democrat president voted into office by south americans makes about turn following demands from neocons and moves media focus from domestic economic problems to agitation of south america shortly after Chavez' death.
Actually I hope the republican press do make something of this in the US, some Alex Jones types trying to use it as ammunition will merely cause a stubborn antagonistic response in greater numbers.
Yip, If theres one thing the US doesn't need its good relations with south america, mercosur and its emerging markets.
Chris
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0So, basically, it's the muslims fault USA doesn't support the UK.
“”“” I think the US will support SELF DETERMINATION. That is what the US has been built on.“”“”
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0the US will support whatever is convenient to itself at the time.
trust the US as far as you can throw it.
Who cares what the US thinks. We should close down our embassy there. And then kick them out of their embassy here.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina doesn't need the world telling us how to live. We have all the answers and no one can tell me any different. Argentina is the richest most successful country on the planet because we aren't owned by the banks.
@20
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0And then you want Argentina to trust the USA, Europe, and the UK?
I've said this ever since I got here, there is no reason to trust any of your nations. By nature, culture, and hundreds of years of history you will do only what is convenient for you, makes you a profit, and throw anyone under the bus at any time.
Falklands: British
Argentina a partner/friend of the USA/EU/UK: NEVER (again)
Ahh! paranoid and desperate poor pirates! When not, the cowards, trying to manage their interests to the United States. If even in 1982, he went to mourn EE. UU. Buahhh! “We need your material and logistical support”, but actually demanded such support. In U.S. sunk cost them a supertanker: the “Hercules”. Paranoids who want to “buy” U.S. with oil that is not theirs! the very morons: Argentine Oil. They offer what is not theirs! These proud, hard to believe they are living in the XXI century. Arréglenselas alone. Learn from Argentina who fought alone against superior forces and the latter with material and logistical support of U.S., cowardly and desperate pirates.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0So the British claim is legally “strong” and Argentina “weak”, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!
“The traditional U.S. approach is that territorial disputes should be ”resolved peacefully and without threats of coercion, intimidation, or the use of force“ Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! hypocrites!!!!!
”The U.S. military uses and benefits of the bases in the overseas territories of Britain, including Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean“ Thanks for the favor they do to U.S. with that statement!, rubbish! They use the worst terrorism to drive the Chagossians from their land to give to the island of Diego Garcia-sucking balls to the Yankees- ”clean and sanitized” as required by the latter. And that persists to this day.
It is an incredible article commenting could go but does not reach the number of characters.
My God!What despicable and desperate pirates!
Nil Gardiner is so insecure and cries for US support, not even their master support their so called“ referendum”
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting comment
”The reason the U.S. does not support the U.K. on this issue, notwithstanding their otherwise incestuous relationship, is simply because under international law there are territorial limitations to the right of self-determination for transplanted populations living in colonial enclaves where a pre-colonial claim of sovereignty exists. This is the case with the Falklands. As a coloniser, the U.K. cannot legally disrupt the territorial integrity of another State by implanting its own population unto the territory it is colonising.
In cases such as these, the inhabitants of the colonised territory have a right to have their ‘interests’ considered but they have no right to unilaterally determine the nationality of the land they live in.
By the way, conducting a referendum of the colonising population the U.K. has implanted in the Falklands, is simply an attempt to obfuscate the issue by the U.K. The U.K. tried the same ploy in Gibraltar in the late 1960s. However, the referendum it sanctioned then was declared invalid by the UN when it adopted Resolution 2353, which observed that the referendum was contrary to the various resolutions which had been adopted previously by the UN General Assembly requiring the UK to decolonise Gibraltar
#14 and 15
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0First off don't think all American's are impressed with Obama's foreign policies. They do not reflect Americans opinions in support of long, trusted allies. Granted he is the President, but he won with a small margin. His popularity is low and he is in office only because the Republicans could not field a realistic contender. I am hoping he will do the right thing in making a definitive statement after this weekends vote. But who knows, I think he's a closet Bolivarian Socialist. There are no more Independent Moderates left here. All left or all right.
23 Marcos Alejandro
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where and what international law exists that has this criteria of territorial limitations to the right of self-determination? The 'territorial integrity' is a post 1944 law, therefore it cannot be applied. As it would be in breach of international law against the application of retroactive laws. This is because the only international laws that can be used are the ones that existed in 1833.
“...The rule of the intertemporal law still insists that an act must be characterized in accordance with the law in force at the time it was done, or closely on the next occasion. ...”
Former ICJ judge The Acquisition of Territory in International Law By Robert Yewdall Jennings
and
“It is therefore not surprising that the General Assembly declared
in 1970 that the modem prohibition against the acquisition of territory by conquest should not be construed as affecting titles to territory created 'prior to the Charter regime and valid under international law'
Akehurst's Modern Introduction to International Law By Peter Malanczuk
and
ICJ judge, Rosalyn Higgins, wrote: ”it still has to be said that the territorial issue does come first. Until it is determined where territorial sovereignty lies, it is impossible to see if the inhabitants have a right to self- determination” (Dame Rosalyn Higgins, Problems and Process - International Law and How We Use It, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1994)
Former President of the ICJ pointed out: “No tribunal could tell her [Argentina] that she has to accept British title because she has acquiesced to it But what the protests do not do is to defeat the British title, which was built up in other ways through Argentinas acquiescence.80”
80. Rosalyn Higgins, Falklands and the Law, Observer, 2 May 1982.
So here you have the definitive legal view.
@23 Marcos
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0What did the UN have to say about the 2002 Gibraltar referendum?
@23 - Marcos
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0The majority of the people in the Americas are implanted according to your definition, including the whole of the Argentine government.
So if being 'implanted' means that you don't have the right to self-determination, then it means that no one who lives in the Americas, unless they are native people's descent has the right to have their voices heard.
The people of the Falklands arrived there through a natural process over many years.
Quite a few of them can trace their ancestry on the islands back to before your silly 1833 argument.
Face it, in 1833, the United Provinces tried to 'implant' their own population on the islands, and it failed miserably before HMS Clio turned up to turf them out.
No civilians were expelled, as you well know.
So Argentina's whole claim for sovereignty lies on a military penal colony that failed within 3 months of arriving on the Islands.
I want Argentina to take this to the ICJ, where they would laugh you out of court.
Territorial integrity doesn't apply to the Falklands, as they have never been a part of Argentina (Argentina not existing in 1833) or before that, and therefore even if the law could be applied retrospectively (which it can't) it still wouldn't find in Argentina's favour.
Face it, Marcos, you whole claim to the Falklands is due to colonial ambitions. The wish to build an Argentine empire.
Well the time of empires is dead and buried, just like Argentina's colonial ambitions.
It doesn't matter if the US sit on the fence forever, they are still not going to be able to affect the sovereignty of the Islands.
People like you seem to expect the UN or the USA or someone to say to the UK that we have to hand the Falklands over to Argentina. Yet not ONE of them has ever said that.
In fact the only international body that could force the UK to cede sovereignty is the International Court of Justice, who as I said, would laugh Argentina out of court.
Game over, Argentina. You lost, AGAIN.
The US supported the Good Friday Agreement in N.Ireland - indeed one of their senators chaired the negotiations. From the perspective of the Irish and Irish-supporting countries, the pro-British residents of N.Ireland are also an implanted population (from the 1600s) disturbing the territorial integrity of another country. Yet today, the current wishes of those in NI to stay British is completely respected and recognised by the US. I'm sure Kohen et al could even make an argument for saying that the N.Irish are not even a people, and yet today they have self-determination recognised internationally.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ignore Marcus as ever he's trying to pass off either blatant lies or someone trying to be clever and clearly not understanding the first thing about international law, most likely the post was written by an Argentine.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0I find it really interesting how wound up our Argentine friends are getting over the referendum they keep stating isn't recognised. If this is true then why are they foaming at the mouth over it?
Look at Jose, he nearly had a mental breakdown posting on this thread!
Lol!
It's the Las Malvinas cause, a national frustration that will never go away, because there will never be such a place. Apart from some Argentine neighbourhoods, football teams, industrial sites and the like!
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@23 Marcos,
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina wants an Antarctic Empire.
They want OUR lslands & South Georgia because they could be used as bases against that empire.
We are your stumbling block.
You will never get OUR lslands so you will never get the empire that you want.
You also want to dominate the sealanes between South America & Antarctica.
Well you will not do that either.
ln fact l think that Argentina will implode soon.
l hope so.
There would be some rich pickings amongst the pieces!
And you're doing it all your wittle selves with no help from us at all.
Argentina Has the Power to Avoid Catastrophe
Mar 09th, 2013 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.forbes.com/sites/halsinger/2013/03/07/argentina-has-the-power-to-avoid-catastrophe/
Says it all. Time to become a responsible state Argentina and renounce your errant ways.
Argentina is easier to defeat, so USA why not back them if you want the oil!
Mar 09th, 2013 - 11:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0@27 Well said, very clear and leaves the reader in no doubt unless you are a Mavanist troll making continued hypocritical comments that are at best laughable and at worst, the remarks of an idiot. What do Argentina care about International Law, they have no respect for anyone, least of all their own people who have suffered decades of abuse from corrupt dictators. The current 'President' is a good example of that. Up the revolution...next!
Mar 09th, 2013 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0with the exception of Simon68 (who is the only one that talks any sense) remember people none of the rg trolls on here actually live in rgenweener, pay rgeweenian taxes or serve thier country. I await an intelligent response from the academic that is Sussie or an Jajaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Mar 09th, 2013 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 014/15. Obama is lazy, really really lazy, he stands for nothing and no one but himself.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The pressure to recognize must come from Congress or Senate to get him to act. Probably from the Foreign Relations Committees.
My guess is if the FRC passed a resolution on the Falklands Prez and State would have no choice but to recognize it.
@20,21,22,23 Well thank you for all those “pearls of wisdom”. Nosey first. Of course you are the richest and most successful. Is that why you don't pay your debts? Aren't your lawyers in New York claiming that paying a small part of your debts would drive you to default and economic collapse? As for “successful”, I suppose you could be classed as moderately successful crooks, cheats and liars. Outside of that, you don't have a lot going for you. And now Troll. I'm upset. Perhaps that's clouding my memory. Could you list the last 10 philanthropic actions argieland has undertaken. Slow Joe, I read your meanderings with interest. Do you think that interspersing stuff you've copied and pasted with maniacal cackling is a good idea? Incidentally, your continued references to a people that have never existed is laughable. The people you are referring to are called Ilois. The facts have been stated on here so often that I'm not going to repeat them. Why don't you try for something intelligent? And finally, the last and least. Why should Nile Gardiner, with a doctorate in History and two master's degrees from Yale University, as well as a bachelor's and master's degrees in Modern History from Oxford University, feel “insecure”. Your “interesting” comment was just that. Interesting. It sounds argie and is therefore meaningless. I see that you don't attribute it to anyone. Why is that? Could they be the words of Herr Tinman? And are you still missing the point that UNGA resolutions are non-binding? Therefore irrelevant. Your contribution can only be marked “Must do better.”
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But it is nice to see that articles such as this, and the forthcoming referendum, have you all in such a panic. I rather wonder what starting, and losing, a war, together with years of threats, bullying and attempted intimidation is supposed to achieve. What it has achieved is the certainty that argieland will NEVER get the Islands. Try making a claim to the moon.
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Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/08/demand-for-us-to-recognize-the-falklands-and-support-the-referendum#comment225023: President Obama is in office because he won an election against the best that the GOP could run. And, to the extent that foreign policy determines the outcome of a presidential election, the voters elected President Obama knowing what the future policy if the US would be. And the present policy of the US regarding Las Malvinas has been the policy the policy for a long time. It will not be changing any time soon. If the GOP are foolish enough to try and make an issue of this they are in for a bigger fall than the one that they are in for now.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no, Obama won because of white guilt
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/08/demand-for-us-to-recognize-the-falklands-and-support-the-referendum#comment225181: You may have voted for Obama because of white guilt. But beyond your own personal feelings you have no idea of the motives of the millions of other voters.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In a real democracy all different opinions have a place. In the Fakllands there´s no minimal debate. No one defends the “no” choice. In such a small society where everyone knows everything about the other and where any disagreement is treason, that´s not surprising.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say you`re not a colony. However, in M 10-11 British subjects will decide they want the UK to keep appointing their Governor, traditionaly a diplomat of the Foreign Office. The Governor has the power to introduce laws and take decisions even when contradicting the Legislative Assembly and the Excecutive Council. Both the Commander of the British Forces and the General Attorney appointed by London are members of the Legislative Assembly. The “Supreme Court” is made up by only one judge, that comes from London.
For the first time in history, the 2012 census does not tell how many people were born in the islands. Instead of enquiring about the nationality of the inhabitants, it asked them what nationality they were “identified” with. 59% said “Falkland Islander”. Many of these “Fakland Islanders” are British born, this includes many government officials. Half of the Legislative Assembly are British.
Anyone, despite of having British citizenship, cannot vote or be elected if he/she has delared to be loyal to a “foreign State”. The practice - non written law - prevent Argentines from acquiring residence permits or purchasing land or property on the islands. Argentine heirs were even forced to sell their inherited properties. For 17 years, Argentines were not allowed to visit the islands. Since the British occupation in 1833, the UK has controlled immigration, preventing Argentines from “threatening” the britishness of the population.
Democracy? Self-determination?
Bummers.
39. The depth and breadth of your stupidity amazes me with every post you make. Time and again you post like you know the USA and it is clear that you don't know anything about my country.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The vast majority of people form the USA couldn't find Argentina on a map, nobody cares anything about it here. All they know is from the musical, a fascist country run by thugs.
They know the Falklands through Thatcher/Reagan in the 80s. They have no idea where it is and what is going on there.
Do you seriously think there would be negative political repercussions from supporting a democratic election in an English speaking population?
If so you are delusional.
You are very close to taking the stupidity crown from Axel, very very close.
lol hepatia, don't pretend to know something. I know my country. And I didn't vote for Obama, I didn't vote for anyone, I've been traveling the world for years now. I only go home to visit family and friends and then I head back out and continue the world tour.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BTW, if you're from Argentina, I know your own country better than you do, since I traveled it tip to tip, something you'll never be able to afford.
@44 none of the trolls on here are from rgenweener mate
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The will of inhabitants does not always decide the future of the territory in wich they live. British propaganda states that what matters is the people and not the territories.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After 1st WW, France did not recognize the will of inhabitants of Alsacia-Lorena.
The sweedih population in Aland islands expressed they wanted to be part of Sweden, but only gained autonomy under Finnish sovereignty.
The ICJ has decided in recent cases that certain territories were part of a State, although populated by people from another: 100.000 Nigerians, some with many generations in the Bakassi península, are under Cameroon´s sovereignty.
The ICJ decided the rights of these peoples should be respected by the sovereign States. Argentina has already moved into this direction when recognizing inslanders rights on its Consitution.
In Canada, the Supreme Court decided that the result of a referendum would not be enough for Quebec to be independent. Quebec would have to negotiate with other provinces and the Federal Government to decide with them wether indipendence is an option or not.
For the Scotish to decide on their independence, the UK requires the British Government consent. Unilateraly sessecion is not an option.
The UK is using a disortion of the principle of Self-determination to perpetuate its colonial posessions in the South Atlantic. This manouver wouldn´t have had a place last century. The UK is the colonial power that took longer to recognize the self-detemination principle as international law and only did it when most of its colonial posessions were already independent. Still, the UK kept violating it: Chagos Islands. Of course there was no referendum when retunging Hong Kong back to China.
#39,40 and 41 do you believe the nonsense you post? There is no “white guilt” and foreign policy to Americans is how the President will deal with terrorist. Yankee is correct that most Americans know little of South America, even the Falklands war unless they are over 45. Typically three things come to mind to Americans when South American is brought up #1....drug cartels and #2 the Amazon and #3 Carnival and Rio and in that order.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With the little that many Americans know of South America, one thing is certain; more than anything they love their freedoms. If they knew just how most South American countries repress the media, fuck with elections, steal ....oh, I mean expropriate and not reimburse private assets, they hate South America to the level they hated the USSR in it's day.
lol, I'm sorry, did you say there's no white guilt? /me rubs eyes to read the screen more clearly, I must have read that wrong.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And I wish ppl would stop refering to “South America” like people refer to “USA” as though its all one shitheap. Chile is a shining example of a country. And Uruguay's not too shabby either.
The southern states of USA are a shitheap, but the northwest is some of the greatest on the planet.
UKs refusal to negotiate sovereignty with Argentina is preventing the dispute from being peacefuly and permanently settled.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Referendum will not change the current situation. The UN will keep considering the islands a colonial case. It´s not up to the administring power to decide what´s the best way to put an end to the colonial situation or wether the territory should or not be under the UN list of Non-self governing territories.
The UN has organized and supervised referendums when it decided that was the best way to put an end to colonialism in certain cases, East Timor the most recent.
In the Falklands the UN will not organize, supervise or participate in any way in the referendum. The UK has not even tried to involve the UN in this because the UK knows it will fail in gaining support from the UN, as it has failed with Gibraltar. The UK could not even include a reference to self-determination in any of the multiple UN Resolutions regarding the Falklands Question. Why? Simply because the UN understands that the best way to put an end to the colonial situation in Malvinas is by solving the sovereignty dispute between the UK and Argentina, and not by letting inhabitants decide on the matter.
@46 you are thick aren't you I suggest you read up on Hong Kong you might actually learn something, and read it carefully especially the bit about the LEASE
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0God they are utterly brainwashed, manipulating everything to their own point of view. The only way you are going to get us off those islands is another war and in that regard you are impotent, you don't have a pot to piss in and your armed forces are hopelessly out of date.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@49 - Maldive Islands
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The UK and Argentina solved this dispute on 12 June 1982 when Argentina SURRENDERED.
You lost. Get over it. Sort out your own country and stop trying to steal someone else's.
Regarding the UN, I've already answered that on another thread (since you seem to be copying and pasting the same thing on all Falklands related threads - does that mean La Campora pay you more money?).
Argentina INVALIDATED all UN resolutions regarding the Falklands. YOU DID IT. You decided that you didn't want a peaceful solution, so a non-peaceful solution it was, with Argentina LOSING, LOSING, LOSING. Do you understand that you LOST, makind you the LOSERS!
The UN resolutions regarding decolonistation state that the administrating power should assist the colonised territory to full independence, taking into account the wishes of the people of those territories.
There is NOTHING in there about handing them over to a 3rd power against the wishes of the inhabitants, as that would be considered COLONIALISM!!!!!
So Argentine troll, crawl back under your rock, because the administrating power in the Falklands is assisting the people of the Falklands to achieve independence. They may vote for the status quo right now, but one day in the future, no doubt after Argentina has ceased to exist and has broken up into warring provinces, the Falklanders will choose full independence.
Argentina has no credibility regarding the Falklands. In 1982 you threatened to murder all the inhabitants of the Islands, and no doubt would've done if not for the British Task Force. Since then Argentina has done NOTHING to promote friendship with the Islanders. You threaten, intimidate and would like nothing more that to steal their land and their lives from them.
It is NEVER going to happen.
It will be amusing, however, to watch Argentina descend into anarchy whilst the Falklands move forwards to becoming a successful country.
Bye bye Argentina. Your President is destroying you from within.
The only thing the USA needs to promote in Latin America Mr Gardner is their vanishing act.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haven't you noticed how since the USA has become irrelevant in the region, more and more countries are in fact falling under your general line of thinking? Who would have thunk it? What they have been telling you for ages, the less you interfere in others business, the more they may actually partner with you.
You are making the same mistake in the middle east and it has already cost you dearly in your own capital city and largest city.
Those nations that choose to be friendly to you will then do so with no baggage of past wrong-doings. Of course not all will be friendly, but who knows even Venezuela soon may again.
Argentina? Never. Since we have no interest in any relations with the USA, much less friendship. Check our history, we have never been.
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(FYI: the referendum is not the end of the story, only the start of a long road towards independence or free association with the UK or another country of our choice. By voting 'yes' we don't damn ourselves to a life-time of being a BOT we simply take another step towards our future. Once we choose independence or free association there will be nothing Argentina or any other country can do to stop us. These are the rules if the UN)
Since we have no interest in any relations with the USA, much less friendship. Check our history, we have never been.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA companies control a HUGE part of Argentina's GDP, Farming, Auto, Medicine, Tourism just to name a few and without us you'd barely have any mfg in your country nor would you be able to be competitive in Agriculture.
Gosh you are a boob.
lol, oh I checked your history, Introllregnvm.......and guess what? The last time your country was successful was 1950's. Since then it's been a disaster. I guess that whole anti-west, anti-usa/uk, anti-world thing isn't workin out too well for you, lol.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But then take a look at Chile, a shining example of the opportunity that can come from having an open economy and being friendly towards the West.
Renault? Fiat? Volkswagen? American?????
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wow you are a retard.
Fiat controls Chrysler, IMBEV controls Budweiser, in fact last 6 years the USA has been bought by foreigners (both companies and real estate/land) piece-meal.
95% of tourism to Argentina is non-american.
LOL, go back to your cave.
@56
It shows how much we dislike you, doesn't it? No to the USA, no to Europe. Period.
@57, you mean no to real growth and low inflation, etc
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And its INBEV, you retard, not IMBEV.
And Walmart's revenue alone is equal to ALL of Argentina's GDP.
And if you don't use “official” statistics, then Walmart's revenue is BIGGER than Argentina's GDP
BAM! eat that bitch troll!
GM/FORD/Monsanto/Hilton/Marriott/Hyatt...retard
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA investment makes a large contribution to Argentina’s economy. Over 500 U.S.-based companies currently operate in Argentina, employing over 155,000 people. The stock of U.S. investment in Argentina in 2010 (most recent data available was $12.1 billion and is concentrated in the energy/mining and manufacturing sectors.
In 2011, many U.S. firms were featured in the list of the “best places to work” in Argentina: taking 14 out of the top 50 on the list according to Great Places to Work organization. In addition, U.S. companies have consistently comprised a large portion of the list of Most Respected Companies in Argentina as ranked by El Clarin, Argentina’s largest newspaper.
And if you don't use “official” statistics, then Walmart's revenue is BIGGER than Argentina's GDP
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And if you don't use “official” statistics, then Walmart's revenue is BIGGER than Argentina's GDP
And if you don't use “official” statistics, then Walmart's revenue is BIGGER than Argentina's GDP
And if you don't use “official” statistics, then Walmart's revenue is BIGGER than Argentina's GDP
And if you don't use “official” statistics, then Walmart's revenue is BIGGER than Argentina's GDP
And if you don't use “official” statistics, then Walmart's revenue is BIGGER than Argentina's GDP
BAM! eat that bitch troll!
BAM! eat that bitch troll!
BAM! eat that bitch troll!
BAM! eat that bitch troll!
As the plop plop nears an end on Argentina, there is nothing left but a wipe and flush. And they still do not see the vortex they are in. I think these trolls will NEVER go home to Argentina now. All safe and comfortable tucked away in North America and Europe. They would be idiots to go back.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 046 Islas Malvinas
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the referendum was contrary to international law as Argentina claims. You have to ask why she hasn't gone to the ICJ to have it stayed?, because in fact the referendum is legal. By not legally challenging it Argentina is acquiescing, and confirming further legitimacy by her tacit acceptance.
Well duh, 320 million people that have been empoverished and must now survive by shopping Walmart (and btw that is worldwide, I bet at least 1/5 if not 1/4 of that revenue comes from overseas), vs a country of 38 million. No shit...
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I bet Super Vea makes more sales than the entire economy of Armenia... big deal. Nothing to be proud of and I never speak like that because only self-conscious inadequates fall back on such petty stats.
I never speak like that because only self-conscious inadequates fall back on such petty stats.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bahahaha
Um maybe you don't like economic stats because they are outlawed in Argentina so that the economy doesn't look like it is failing.
but everyone knows it is
fast and hard
just how I like it
BTW care to comment on my post #59 or will you just ignore it?
Yankee and then there is Starbucks, Apache Oil, Chevron, Mobil, the fast food junk that they can have, John Deere-farming which is all they have now,
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/382894/Argentina-s-leader-snubs-Hugo-Chavez-funeral-after-gushing-he-was-our-only-friend
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“because her doctor had advised her that she was in no condition to survive tropical heat.”
LOL is she dying too?! YES PLEASE!
@56 Do you think Chile will take the opportunity to reclaim its rightful territories in the South of the continent when Argentina folds. I am sure there are countries in the West who would support them.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and McDonalds which is considered to be a luxury since many people can't afford it now...
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A teacher has to work 3hrs to pay for a Combo meal!
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/08/demand-for-us-to-recognize-the-falklands-and-support-the-referendum#comment225245: If the issue of the UK occupation of Las Malvinas was settled in 1982 why has it been necessary for the UK Premier and other administration officers to defend the occupation?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 067 UncleTed
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sadly no, Chile's not as petty and thieving as Argentina :(
But they certainly are capable of doing so, in terms of military might and professionalism, and they should.
INTROLLREGNVM
time to shit ALL over your parade:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue
20 of the largest 58 companies in the world are American......none Argentine
@68
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uhmm... Average wage in the USA is 11.50 per hour.
After taxes that's 9.00. After local taxes 8.50.
Checking, a Mcdonalds in the USA cost on average 6.50.
Then you must add tax, 7.20.
That means in the mighty USA, people must work one hour to buy it.
And then you wonder why a new car smell in the USA is now a nostalgic reminescence of the glory days past...
INTROLLREGNVM
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0time to shit ALL over your parade:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue
20 of the largest 58 companies in the world are American......none Argentine
www.express.co.uk/news/world/382894/Argentina-s-leader-snubs-Hugo-Chavez-funeral-after-gushing-he-was-our-only-friend
“because her doctor had advised her that she was in no condition to survive tropical heat.”
LOL is she dying too?! YES PLEASE!
INTROLLREGNVM
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0time to shit ALL over your parade:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue
20 of the largest 58 companies in the world are American......none Argentine
www.express.co.uk/news/world/382894/Argentina-s-leader-snubs-Hugo-Chavez-funeral-after-gushing-he-was-our-only-friend
“because her doctor had advised her that she was in no condition to survive tropical heat.”
LOL is she dying too?! YES PLEASE!
You know the argument is lost when the right click menu is brought to “do battle”. hahaha
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.express.co.uk/news/world/382894/Argentina-s-leader-snubs-Hugo-Chavez-funeral-after-gushing-he-was-our-only-friend
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“because her doctor had advised her that she was in no condition to survive tropical heat.”
LOL is she dying too?! YES PLEASE!
INTROLLREGNVM
time to shit ALL over your parade:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue
20 of the largest 58 companies in the world are American......none Argentine
INTROLLREGNVM
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0time to shit ALL over your parade:
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue
20 of the largest 58 companies in the world are American......none Argentine
Right, click. Right, click.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Repeat.
Right, click. Right, click.
Repeat.
We winning! mwhaaaahahaha
seems you're losing, not a single company in the largest 500 companies of the world....damn, what are you, last place in the world game of capitalism? Africa beat you too?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0INTROLLREGNVM
time to shit ALL over your parade:
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue
20 of the largest 58 companies in the world are American......none Argentine
www.express.co.uk/news/world/382894/Argentina-s-leader-snubs-Hugo-Chavez-funeral-after-gushing-he-was-our-only-friend
“because her doctor had advised her that she was in no condition to survive tropical heat.”
LOL is she dying too?! YES PLEASE!
@73 look at the state of her coupon in that photo.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77 you couldn't win a one horse race loser
@79
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe not, but I would score a tie.
The English OTOH? Would find a way to lose, like they always do in any sport.
” in fact last 6 years the USA has been bought by foreigners (both companies and real estate/land) piece-meal.“ said INTROLLREGNVM
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue
”20 of the largest 58 companies in the world are American” said facts
18 Stevie
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have never read the Koran and an 'interpretive' document have you.
You have no idea what being born to a Muslim father means do you?
We are all Chavez: apart from the Muslims, et al.
#80
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course the Olympic games gave proof of that. Argentina came where ?
#69
ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID ?
Has it escaped your notice that the Argentinian government has been mounting an aggressive lying propaganda campaign against the UK and Falkland islands for about the last 18 months.
The only illegal occupations were in 1833 and 1982 by a colonialist power in the South American continent who are trying it all over again. Here is a clue, the country's name begins and ends with the letter A.
Troll, The national average wage index for 2011 is 42,979.61 which is $22/hr
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So your stats are a little out of date
And that's Arg$ 347,000 at Friday's leak rate.
and teachers are fighting for what?
U$450/mo
and that's the “educated middle class” AND that is 30% ABOVE what they are making now.
Good gracious if I let my cat work she'd probably make more than that
@84 I get more than that from my armed forces pension FFS
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and on new car sales..I think again you are a little out of date or just plain lying which is a common Rg trait
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lie cheat steal
taught in the womb in that filthy county
For 2012 as a whole, automakers sold approximately 14.5 million vehicles in the U.S. market, a 13 percent increase from 2011 and the highest annual sales total since 2007.
In addition, 2012 also marked the third consecutive year of annual sales increases of at least 10 percent, the first time the industry has achieved such a success streak since the early 1970s. The seasonally adjusted annual rate (SAAR) hit 15.3 million units in December
Rgenweener always the victim, always moaning, always the loser. A country going nowhere till they wake up and smell the Starbucks.........................oh wait that's an American company
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0INTROLLREGNVM_ derr how can you tie a one horse race idiot you need two for a tie are you sussie in disguise?
In USA we believe in the end of COLONIALISM and got good Geography TEACHERS from 21 CENTURY
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#88
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well you certainly did not get good English teachers.
In the UK we also believe in the end of colonialism. That is why we are resisting Argentina's attempt to colonise the Falklands.
@88 Its SUUUUUUUUUUUSI
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'@88 hello sussie u loser
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39 Wonderful. Such certainty. Is your home address 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue Northwest?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@42 What would you know about a democracy? “any disagreement is treason”? Possibly in argieland. ”The Legislative Assembly consists of eight elected members, two ex officio members (the Chief Executive and the Director of Finance) and the Speaker. Although they take part in proceedings, the ex officio members do not have the right to vote in the Legislative Assembly. The Commander British Forces and the Attorney General also have the right to take part in the proceedings of the Legislative Assembly, though again they may not vote.” Pity you didn't read up on it. How good that anyone who has declared loyalty to a foreign state cannot vote or be elected. Keeps the argie trash out! Anything else?
@46 Have to admit that you're trying hard. Trouble is that many of your examples are irrelevant. What IS relevant are agreements between the Falkland Islanders (over whom the UN and ICJ have no jurisdiction) and the UK. In the past the Falkland Islanders have effectively told the UN to get stuffed. Don't see that changing.
@49 Good. The subject is not up for “negotiation”. How many times do you have to be told? Are you thick? You do understand that the UN isn't a “government”, don't you? It's a talking shop. Nothing more. There is only one body that “supposedly” has the authority to demand that its members comply with what it says. And you ignored it! Get the picture?
@69 Somebody doesn't understand that they can be beaten anytime?
@71 Then again, in argieland, no-one can afford one.
@80 Check your history. You've ALWAYS lost. Unless using “modern” reifles against spears.
@85 And I get nearly four times that from my government pension!
@88 Are hookers allowed a say? Aren't their mouths always full? Slurp, slurp, Sussie! Still taking it in the ass?
I am so looking forward to the pictures of argies starving. No pigeons for the poor kids. Perhaps argies could eat the poor kids!
One has to wonder, with Cristina getting so sick often nowadays, and her doctors saying she can't survive heat......is it just a ploy....or was the “cancer” found in her last year ACTUALLY cancer?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe I'm just getting doing too much WISHFUL thinking after we just got rid of Chavez....but hey, I can hope can't I?
@93
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well maybe the US infected her in the same way they 'infected' Chavez.
I mean infecting someone with Cancer has got to be a first, and to think the Russians were using that old method of of rat poison and radiation poisoning, boy are the Russians gonna feel foolish when they realise that they could've just given all their enemies cancer!
A nice blogg [what]
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0With the exception of a few argie children.
Really, the only person who can change the status quo,
Is Mr Obama,
What we don’t want, it mr Obama being forced to accept, recognise , or come of the fence,
It must be done voluntary,
As to be forced to do anything, would not give you an ally but a very unhelpful barrenly bad partner,
And this may cause resentment, remember that it is the leader more than the people,
And the British parties have been pro American, but that is not to say that it could not change,
Then where would we be,
Basically we are in this together for freedom and democracy,
Or only when it suits ones bank account, greed,
The point im making is this,
Despite the hate and rhetoric, it is Argentina that needs America and the dollar, not the other way around,
Mr Obama does not need or depend on Argentina or CFK for anything other than friendship,
So if one chooses CFK over the UK,
Then one must have very very good reason to do so.
He may well be gone in five years time,
But sadly north Korea , Syria , Iran , and any other tyrant, may not wish to wait 5 years..
Just a thought.
.
US terms are 4 years, thankfully, so at worst he's got 3.75 years left.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 096
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0thanks for that.
@ 6 briton
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your damned right Obuma doesn't speak for decent Americans!
I, and millions of Americans can't wait for the day in 3.75 years to say: “Good riddance to bad rubbish!”
Argentina to hand over parts of Patagonia to Chile.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In accordance to the Argentine arguments, the referendum in Patagonia in 1902 was invalid.
The Valle 16 de Octubre (where today are situated the towns of Esquel and Trevelin) and other cross-fertile valleys of Patagonia, were well within Chilean territory.
“When the villagers decided to be Argentine”
“Currently, every April 30, communities of Trevelin and Esquel, along with their respective authorities and those of the province, meet at the old building of the School N° 18 on Corintios River to celebrate another anniversary of the 1902 Referendum called.”
http://www.patagonia.com.ar/Esquel/41E_More+than+100+years+since+the+referendum.html
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The article: “The United States Should Recognize British Sovereignty Over the Falkland Islands”
http://www.patagonia.com.ar/Esquel/41E_More+than+100+years+since+the+referendum.html
Obama knows what their ancestors suffered at the hands of the English landowners slave sellers!! English destroyed peoples, ecosystems, robbed and killed! MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!!
Mar 10th, 2013 - 12:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/08/demand-for-us-to-recognize-the-falklands-and-support-the-referendum#comment225460: But millions of US voters had the opportunity to say, ”Good riddance to bad rubbish!”, last November (have you forgotten already?) but failed to do so. You can protest all you want but Obama is the president of the US.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 12:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I know I don't come here that much, or at all really, but I saw this brilliant article and thought it might be good to share with the Islanders on here as they prepare to vote... http://socialistunity.com/falkland-islanders-should-vote-no-in-referendum-on-british-sovreignty/
Mar 10th, 2013 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 092@-idiot no political parties, no democracy!
Mar 10th, 2013 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 098 Uncle Sam
Mar 10th, 2013 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thank you for that,
When he goes, thing will get back to normal .
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100 Gustbury
Try looking in the mirror.
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101 Hepatia
You know not,
Millions did not vote for him,
But either way, next time, he goes.
Just like CFK next time.
.
I really think after the vote, things will be clearer so let the people vote. This is a very good article on the “torture” the US feels over over the Falkland Islands. its a difficult issue.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=173902670.
#101 no shit Hepititis.....did you just discover that? You also know what he can and can't do with a Republican house and a possibility of losing the Senate with retiring Democrats and Dem Senators like Menendez that are too found of prostitutes.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 01:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0#98 Republicans have no answers either, don't get too excited.
You will always be a second class citizen living in a colony on usurped land! REMEMBER .. MALVINAS ARGENTINAS YOU CAN BE WHAT YOU WANT!
Mar 10th, 2013 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0107 Gustbury
Mar 10th, 2013 - 01:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0how childish coming from a 4th class person living a lie,
and still lives in the past.
I prefer to be childish than to be a usurer, murderer, liar and usurper!! :)
Mar 10th, 2013 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0their you go talking about argentina again,
Mar 10th, 2013 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0you should be ashamed to insult your own country.
110@shup up muppet,you bore me.!I wish good look tomorrow to all Brit slaves!!! ahahaha MALVINAS ARGENTINAS!
Mar 10th, 2013 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0104 briton: You are welcome Sir. I hope, after Obuma is gone, our next government will once again recognize who our TRUE friends.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0101 Hepatia: 51% of the voters is hardly a ringing endorsement.
106 Captain: True, but anything will be better than what we now have.
@109 - Gustbury
Mar 10th, 2013 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0You appear to have stopped taking your medication, you have become completely unstable.
OR is it because you realise that Argentina has LOST any credibility it ever had in the world?
Tell me Gustbury. When the Spanish invaders, usurpers and murderers landed in South America, did the natives who lived there open their arms and welcome them? Or did they in fact fight the invaders, usurpers and murderers, who were better armed than they were, and who started committing atrocity after atrocity on the native peoples?
When you talk like that you conveniently forget that your country was build on the bodies and blood on the native peoples your ancestors stole it from.
Britain has never denied its past. Argentina constantly denies its past, which is why the rest of the world looks on at you in contempt.
@100 Gustbury.
Obama's family NEVER suffered at the hands of the British. That is a lie made up by his sicophants.
His grandfather didn't fight the British along side the Mau Mau. That would've been impossible, as his grandfather was from a tribe that was enemies of the Mau Mau, and the Mau Mau were busy slaughtering anyone from those tribes that they considered enemies. In fact they certainly preferred killing their tribal enemies than they did the British.
His grandfather was actually a soldier IN the British Army (no the Kenya Army). He was a steward who was caught stealing the mess silver, arrested, spent some time in the glasshouse, and then was dishonourably dismissed the service.
But I suppose of you are running for President, you don't really want to admit that your grandfather was a thief.
Also regarding slavery. Argentines owned African Slaves too. What happened to them all? Were they freed? Or were they murdered as they didn't have the right colour skin.
Jesus said: Let he who is without sin cast the 1st stone.
That certainly isn't Argentina.
@ 113 LEPRecon,
Mar 10th, 2013 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentines don't do the truth.
You're wasting your time talking to the plonkers.
(like l've wasted my time with them).
After the ref results, think l'll ignore them too.
But thank everyone for their support.
♥
#112 you have not lived through Nixon, Ford or Carter to think anything is better.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0@115 P0p-off
Mar 10th, 2013 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The hell I haven't, sonny.
The youy can hardly say “anyone” is better. Ever live under Gov. Romney? I have. Hardly the word anyone gramps.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 102 British_Kirchnerist
Mar 10th, 2013 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I saw this brilliant article and thought it might be good to share with the Islanders on here as they prepare to vote”
http://socialistunity.com/falkland-islanders-should-vote-no-in-referendum-on-british-sovreignty/
(I assume the socialist spelling “sovreignty” is meant to be “sovereignty” :) )
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