The Falkland Islands are arranging for three ‘grass roots’ events to celebrate the March10/11 referendum, when Islanders will decide on their political status and future of the Islands. Read full article
”The ‘spelling’ will hold for about 90 minutes giving sufficient time for the arriving journalists to take their pictures……”
”On Sunday, there will be a vehicle rally through Puerto Estanley with a display of flags. It is scheduled for 2:30 pm with a minimum of 400 vehicles…. ”
Marshals will direct drivers where to go…….”
”Organizers recommend that when passing journalists “open your window, smile and wave or give the thumbs-up….”
”Face-painting, especially with children, is encouraged”.
”Police would prefer that, when possible, ‘vehicles be left at home…….”
You got to luuuuv British spontaneity and impulsiveness :-)))
I dare say that as castles were military fortifications, albeit these ones being of the bouncy childrens entertainment variety, they'd be viewed as further militarising the Falkland Islands and there will be protests to the UN aplenty...
They're bloody dangerous things for adults though, speaking from personal experience.
Oooooooooo
We think the jealousy and envy is showing already,
And in protest at the referendum, we here all argie blogger will boycott these pages for two weeks,
Ahhh how the fallen have fallen even further,
Still,
The referendum will go ahead,
They will vote to remain British,
The whole world will see this event unfold on the worlds screens,
[except argentina] apparently she has banned it on the grounds that her own people may get very good ideas.
Long live the British Falklands,
And one in the eye for CFK.
.
I'm sure they could incorporate a 'whack the Kirchner piñata' and watch the Botox and pesos fall out. I expect that would probably frighten the children though!
Be nice to have a Dunk the Timerman a ”Pin the Flag on the Donkeys (MR T''s) Ass. or even a Gypsy Alicia Castro Fortune Telling Tent.” Scrap the last one, her predictions have been useless so far, sure to be wrong!
So while the Aregentinean people take to the streets with pots and pans to protest against their government, the Falklands people will take to the streets to show their support for FIG and HMG.
A civilised rally to show the world that we are here, we exist and we will not be silenced. Hats off to Falkland/British logistical organisational powers. I will certainly be taking part with both FI and UK flags attached to my car.
When I was the RAF i got told I was going to the FI on deployment. Some said its bad some said it was great. I came down to the islands 3 times in total. Guess what I thought. Bloody brilliant. I love the Islands. The FI flag and the Union Flag should fly proudly together. We are as much a part of you as you are a part of us. We love you like brothers and no one here would want it any other way.
@José Malvinero, And while civilised Falkland Islanders behave in a grown up manner dirty Argentines protest at ports burning tyers eating Patagonian lamb and getting pissed on cheap red Argentine wine while the sounds of GOD SAVE THE QUEEN hollows out in the background from luxury cruise liners ,luxury something Argentines can only dream of.
There is some interest in the No campaign, however it mainly concerns how many no votes there will be.
It's interesting to see where different online betting companies put their even point (i.e. the point where the odds of the number of No votes exceeding the number specified is the same as the odds of there being less No votes). As it stands, Ladbrokes are offering the same odds on there being 15 or less No votes and 16 or more. This has come down from the threshold being 20 or less and 21 or more.
If it were up to me I'd be betting on the number of spoilt ballots beating the no vote...
The Falklands show the way: Winds of freedom blowing from the Atlantic
on Friday, March 08, 2013
A strong wind is blowing from the South Atlantic, a wind of democracy. It comes from from the Falkland Islands, which on 10-11 March will hold a self-determination referendum. The issue at stake is whether to retain their status as a largely self-governing entity (a UK overseas territory, with London just responsible for defence and foreign affairs). Across the sea, Argentina is threatening the islands and refusing to recognize that it is the people living there who have a right to decide their own future. Instead of campaigning in favour of integration into Argentina, explaining the advantages (if any) of such course of action, Buenos Aires is mixing threats with claims that the referendum is “irrelevant”, treating the Islands’ population as minors unable to choose their own future.
Unfortunately, this comes as no surprise. In a recent visit to London, Argentine Foreign Minister Hector Timerman refused to speak to Dick Sawle, a member of the Falklands Islands Legislative Assembly. The head of the Argentine Diplomacy went so far as claiming that “There is no such thing as Falkland islanders”.
Needless to say, this stands in stark contrast with London’s impeccable democratic credentials. The British Government is supporting the referendum and has made it repeatedly clear that the Falklands will remain a British Overseas Territory for as long as their inhabitants wish. This is British democracy at its best, from bottom up, with government based on the consent of the governed, and institutions the servants and not the masters of the people.
Argentinians once assaulted the Islands by force and were soundly defeated, but they do not seem to have learnt the lesson. It is very simple: if they ever want the Falklands to join their country, they have to convince a majority of their population. Not threaten, or intimidate, or insult them, but to convince
@15 Pity they can't get the Red Arrows to put on a show over the Casa Rosada-that would be more offensive for the Argentines as they only feel threatened by missiles with a 4 mile range, unarmed yellow helicopters and subs that are not within 7000 miles of RG. But the nicely coloured smoke might be a 'weapon' militarising the SA prompting an immediate protest from the cry-babies at the UN.
For some reason armed weapons don't seem to scare them?
@18 You had the chance to send Argentine politicians over to argue for the NO vote, but declined because your claim is COLONIAL (ie for land whilst ignoring the people)-your 19th century colonialist imperialist fascist views are out of date and your country is going to get a democratic kick up your Princes Street, chey . The beginning of the end for your planned imperialism.
@24“There is no such thing as Falkland islanders”.
Ostriches sticking their heads up their butts and their fingers(not their Israeli jet fighters) in their ears like 3 year olds.
FI REFERENDIM 2013-NO TURNING BACK-SELF DETERMINATION AND DEMOCRACY
10th March DAY 1 Voting day ( Mothers Day )
11th March DAY 2 Voting day ( Commonwealth Day )
Is this coincidence?
FALKLANDS part of the Commonweath, could be soon I wager.
@clyde osborn, Sussie do you realise The Islasnders are far more prosperous than most Argentines could ever immagine through hard work unlike your dear leader The Botox Queen Crissy Kirchner who as bled your country dry-have you ever asked Kirchner where she got her many millions from since being in power??? oh I forgot Kirchner does not do interviews-I WONDER WHY NOT
People in the Uk are obviously looking in from afar and people hope that it all goes as we expect it to. Best of luck to all the Islanders. Internationally observed the world will soon know what the inhabitants want. That should be respected - not least by the USA, never mind Argentina.
@34 Obama should come out and support us on this issue now after all who's he going to ask to help him when Korea kicks off, not rgenweener thats for sure, he has done more for anti britishness in the states than any other president, time to reverse that trend barrack, grow some balls after all what does rgenweener offer you? FOOK ALL
The referendum does not matter if you do not belong to the islands. This is going to end in war sooner or later. Children and grandchildren will pay the consequences because the war will fall in the islands again. It is naive to think that the referendum will fix everything. This will end in war whether we like it or not. I'm sorry but is the truth.
”Be nice to have a “Dunk the Timerman” a ”Pin the Flag on the Donkeys (MR T''s) Ass.“ or even a ”Gypsy Alicia Castro Fortune Telling Tent.” Scrap the last one, her predictions have been useless so far, sure to be wrong!
#37
What's up sussie? Only 10 vowels this time, I am still trying to guess what your peculiar word means. Is it the written equivalent of a stutter ? As a point of interestcupcakes is an American terminology, in Britain the correct word is fairy cakes so called because of their size and delicacy. Fashionably eaten with afternoon tea in mannered, polite society But again, what would you know of polite, mannered society.
You give the impression of being as rough as a badger's arse.
In a real democracy all different opinions have a place. In the Fakllands there´s no minimal debate. No one defends the “no” choice. In such a small society where everyone knows everything about the other and where any disagreement is treason, that´s not surprising.
You say you`re not a colony. However, in M 10-11 British subjects will decide they want the UK to keep appointing their Governor, traditionaly a diplomat of the Foreign Office. The Governor has the power to introduce laws and take decisions even when contradicting the Legislative Assembly and the Excecutive Council. Both the Commander of the British Forces and the General Attorney appointed by London are members of the Legislative Assembly. The “Supreme Court” is made up by only one judge, that comes from London.
For the first time in history, the 2012 census does not tell how many people were born in the islands. Instead of enquiring about the nationality of the inhabitants, it asked them what nationality they were “identified” with. 59% said “Falkland Islander”. Many of these “Fakland Islanders” are British born, this includes many government officials. Half of the Legislative Assembly are British.
Anyone, despite of having British citizenship, cannot vote or be elected if he/she has delared to be loyal to a “foreign State”. The practice - non written law - prevent Argentines from acquiring residence permits or purchasing land or property on the islands. Argentine heirs were even forced to sell their inherited properties. For 17 years, Argentines were not allowed to visit the islands. Since the British occupation in 1833, the UK has controlled immigration, preventing Argentines from “threatening” the britishness of the population.
The will of inhabitants does not always decide the future of the territory in wich they live. British propaganda states that what matters is the people and not the territories.
After 1st WW, France did not recognize the will of inhabitants of Alsacia-Lorena.
The sweedih population in Aland islands expressed they wanted to be part of Sweden, but only gained autonomy under Finnish sovereignty.
The ICJ has decided in recent cases that certain territories were part of a State, although populated by people from another: 100.000 Nigerians, some with many generations in the Bakassi península, are under Cameroon´s sovereignty.
The ICJ decided the rights of these peoples should be respected by the sovereign States. Argentina has already moved into this direction when recognizing inslanders rights on its Consitution.
In Canada, the Supreme Court decided that the result of a referendum would not be enough for Quebec to be independent. Quebec would have to negotiate with other provinces and the Federal Government to decide with them wether indipendence is an option or not.
For the Scotish to decide on their independence, the UK requires the British Government consent. Unilateraly sessecion is not an option.
The UK is using a disortion of the principle of Self-determination to perpetuate its colonial posessions in the South Atlantic. This manouver wouldn´t have had a place last century. The UK is the colonial power that took longer to recognize the self-detemination principle as international law and only did it when most of its colonial posessions were already independent. Still, the UK kept violating it: Chagos Islands. Of course there was no referendum when retunging Hong Kong back to China.
#46
Hong Kong was LEASED from China and was always going to be returned when the lease ran out !
Correct, the Falklands cannot unilaterally sucede from the UK, however, if they wished to do so, the UK would swiftly grant them the right
The situation of the Chagos has been explained to you time and time again.
Apart from spamming the threads with this same cut&paste argument, and bringing up nothing new that hasn't been refuted already, a hundred times,
You seem to be distorting history yourself.
Your silly examples of the UK not granting Self Determination to administered territories are false and ridiculous. Lame attempts by you to deceive.
For instance:
Hong Kong
-Was leased from China, to be handed back in 1997.
-was never British and the British publicly stated as such
-British were only permitted to administer HK for 99 years
-all inhabitants were aware of the situation and the deadline
-HK was owned by China, and is owned by China
Quebec
- a Province of Canada, a former colony of Britain which achieved Independence peacefully
-Francophone inhabitants of Quebec, full voting citizens of Canada
-Francophones recognised in Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, as a distinct society - a people!
- All citizens of Quebec, mostly 'Francphone', were eligible to participate in the Referendum to seperate.
- The majority of the inhabitants voted to stay in Canada
Best Wishes to the Falkland Island distinct society - a people, not recognised by Argentina as even existing.
A grassroots event with a majority of 50 participants, organised in advance by the official state to celebrate one of two technically poissible outcomes? How could anyone not take this seriously...
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Mar 08th, 2013 - 08:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC…..
Mar 08th, 2013 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Marshals will position the drivers.”
”The ‘spelling’ will hold for about 90 minutes giving sufficient time for the arriving journalists to take their pictures……”
”On Sunday, there will be a vehicle rally through Puerto Estanley with a display of flags. It is scheduled for 2:30 pm with a minimum of 400 vehicles…. ”
Marshals will direct drivers where to go…….”
”Organizers recommend that when passing journalists “open your window, smile and wave or give the thumbs-up….”
”Face-painting, especially with children, is encouraged”.
”Police would prefer that, when possible, ‘vehicles be left at home…….”
You got to luuuuv British spontaneity and impulsiveness :-)))
I know, party animals aren't we!
Mar 08th, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0'Falkland Islanders' spontaneity and impulsiveness.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wait till Think hears about the Bouncy Castles?
Mar 08th, 2013 - 09:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Think
Mar 08th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Will they get a Cristina Kirchner's chirizo sandwich payout like the rent a mob got for turning out to the liberated home coming?
It is all going to run on rails and the Islanders can enjoy a well deserved celebration afterwards.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Reality
Mar 08th, 2013 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0I dare say that as castles were military fortifications, albeit these ones being of the bouncy childrens entertainment variety, they'd be viewed as further militarising the Falkland Islands and there will be protests to the UN aplenty...
They're bloody dangerous things for adults though, speaking from personal experience.
Especially if you have had a brew or two.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oooooooooo
Mar 08th, 2013 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0We think the jealousy and envy is showing already,
And in protest at the referendum, we here all argie blogger will boycott these pages for two weeks,
Ahhh how the fallen have fallen even further,
Still,
The referendum will go ahead,
They will vote to remain British,
The whole world will see this event unfold on the worlds screens,
[except argentina] apparently she has banned it on the grounds that her own people may get very good ideas.
Long live the British Falklands,
And one in the eye for CFK.
.
@9
Mar 08th, 2013 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Or more to the point when everyone else has had a few. I'm reasonably certain that it wasn't me who bounced feet-first onto my head...
I'm sure they could incorporate a 'whack the Kirchner piñata' and watch the Botox and pesos fall out. I expect that would probably frighten the children though!
Mar 08th, 2013 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Be nice to have a Dunk the Timerman a ”Pin the Flag on the Donkeys (MR T''s) Ass. or even a Gypsy Alicia Castro Fortune Telling Tent.” Scrap the last one, her predictions have been useless so far, sure to be wrong!
Mar 08th, 2013 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Crissy will be spitting blood LOL None stop live coverage on Argentin TV
Mar 08th, 2013 - 02:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Afraid?
Mar 08th, 2013 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 How about a flypast? Fully-armed Typhoons over the Casa Rosada? Can Tomahawks do a flypast? RN submarines surfacing in the River Plate?
So while the Aregentinean people take to the streets with pots and pans to protest against their government, the Falklands people will take to the streets to show their support for FIG and HMG.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A civilised rally to show the world that we are here, we exist and we will not be silenced. Hats off to Falkland/British logistical organisational powers. I will certainly be taking part with both FI and UK flags attached to my car.
When I was the RAF i got told I was going to the FI on deployment. Some said its bad some said it was great. I came down to the islands 3 times in total. Guess what I thought. Bloody brilliant. I love the Islands. The FI flag and the Union Flag should fly proudly together. We are as much a part of you as you are a part of us. We love you like brothers and no one here would want it any other way.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ha ha ha! Okupas ridiculous!. And where will the campaign for NO? HA HA HA!!!!
Mar 08th, 2013 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@José Malvinero, And while civilised Falkland Islanders behave in a grown up manner dirty Argentines protest at ports burning tyers eating Patagonian lamb and getting pissed on cheap red Argentine wine while the sounds of GOD SAVE THE QUEEN hollows out in the background from luxury cruise liners ,luxury something Argentines can only dream of.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0JAJAJA
@ Jose
Mar 08th, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is some interest in the No campaign, however it mainly concerns how many no votes there will be.
It's interesting to see where different online betting companies put their even point (i.e. the point where the odds of the number of No votes exceeding the number specified is the same as the odds of there being less No votes). As it stands, Ladbrokes are offering the same odds on there being 15 or less No votes and 16 or more. This has come down from the threshold being 20 or less and 21 or more.
If it were up to me I'd be betting on the number of spoilt ballots beating the no vote...
@18 Jose
Mar 08th, 2013 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good question, where is the NO campaign?
Oh that's right!
The ARGENTINE GOVERNMENT refused to state their side for the vote, even after being invited to do so.
So glad you gave me this opportunity to highlight ANOTHER failure by your government.
#18
Mar 08th, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The NO campaign is being continuously waged by trolls such as you and all your chums, on ALL the Mercopress forums.
@22 - agreed, but their strategy and execution is so poor, its actually benefiting the YES campaign. A lot.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 05:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands show the way: Winds of freedom blowing from the Atlantic
Mar 08th, 2013 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0on Friday, March 08, 2013
A strong wind is blowing from the South Atlantic, a wind of democracy. It comes from from the Falkland Islands, which on 10-11 March will hold a self-determination referendum. The issue at stake is whether to retain their status as a largely self-governing entity (a UK overseas territory, with London just responsible for defence and foreign affairs). Across the sea, Argentina is threatening the islands and refusing to recognize that it is the people living there who have a right to decide their own future. Instead of campaigning in favour of integration into Argentina, explaining the advantages (if any) of such course of action, Buenos Aires is mixing threats with claims that the referendum is “irrelevant”, treating the Islands’ population as minors unable to choose their own future.
Unfortunately, this comes as no surprise. In a recent visit to London, Argentine Foreign Minister Hector Timerman refused to speak to Dick Sawle, a member of the Falklands Islands Legislative Assembly. The head of the Argentine Diplomacy went so far as claiming that “There is no such thing as Falkland islanders”.
Needless to say, this stands in stark contrast with London’s impeccable democratic credentials. The British Government is supporting the referendum and has made it repeatedly clear that the Falklands will remain a British Overseas Territory for as long as their inhabitants wish. This is British democracy at its best, from bottom up, with government based on the consent of the governed, and institutions the servants and not the masters of the people.
Argentinians once assaulted the Islands by force and were soundly defeated, but they do not seem to have learnt the lesson. It is very simple: if they ever want the Falklands to join their country, they have to convince a majority of their population. Not threaten, or intimidate, or insult them, but to convince
@8 Lol
Mar 08th, 2013 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@12 Even more amusing-please televise it.
@13 gets even funnier
@15 Pity they can't get the Red Arrows to put on a show over the Casa Rosada-that would be more offensive for the Argentines as they only feel threatened by missiles with a 4 mile range, unarmed yellow helicopters and subs that are not within 7000 miles of RG. But the nicely coloured smoke might be a 'weapon' militarising the SA prompting an immediate protest from the cry-babies at the UN.
For some reason armed weapons don't seem to scare them?
@18 You had the chance to send Argentine politicians over to argue for the NO vote, but declined because your claim is COLONIAL (ie for land whilst ignoring the people)-your 19th century colonialist imperialist fascist views are out of date and your country is going to get a democratic kick up your Princes Street, chey . The beginning of the end for your planned imperialism.
@24“There is no such thing as Falkland islanders”.
Ostriches sticking their heads up their butts and their fingers(not their Israeli jet fighters) in their ears like 3 year olds.
FI REFERENDIM 2013-NO TURNING BACK-SELF DETERMINATION AND DEMOCRACY
10th March DAY 1 Voting day ( Mothers Day )
Mar 08th, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 011th March DAY 2 Voting day ( Commonwealth Day )
Is this coincidence?
FALKLANDS part of the Commonweath, could be soon I wager.
SOS
Mar 08th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/falklands-rights-and-referendum-on-sovereignty-88584-html
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Mar 08th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@28
Mar 08th, 2013 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hi sussie
@FFS Sussie your so thick just use your own name we all know it's you, no one else could be so stupid
Mar 08th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0agreed,
Mar 08th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0poor suzy CFKS last and only supporter.
@28
Mar 08th, 2013 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0hi sussie
@clyde osborn, Sussie do you realise The Islasnders are far more prosperous than most Argentines could ever immagine through hard work unlike your dear leader The Botox Queen Crissy Kirchner who as bled your country dry-have you ever asked Kirchner where she got her many millions from since being in power??? oh I forgot Kirchner does not do interviews-I WONDER WHY NOT
Mar 08th, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People in the Uk are obviously looking in from afar and people hope that it all goes as we expect it to. Best of luck to all the Islanders. Internationally observed the world will soon know what the inhabitants want. That should be respected - not least by the USA, never mind Argentina.
Mar 08th, 2013 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34 Obama should come out and support us on this issue now after all who's he going to ask to help him when Korea kicks off, not rgenweener thats for sure, he has done more for anti britishness in the states than any other president, time to reverse that trend barrack, grow some balls after all what does rgenweener offer you? FOOK ALL
Mar 08th, 2013 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The referendum does not matter if you do not belong to the islands. This is going to end in war sooner or later. Children and grandchildren will pay the consequences because the war will fall in the islands again. It is naive to think that the referendum will fix everything. This will end in war whether we like it or not. I'm sorry but is the truth.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0UUUUUUUUUUJAJAJA
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0A CELEBRATION WITH BALLONS AND CUP CAKES
AFTER 189 YEARS THE ISLANDERS DON'T HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW!
losers!
They have the islands.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great! I like it. I like it very much. The Islands forever British or Independent. That is great.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0There's going to be cup cakes?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why didn't anyone tell me?
Why did I have to hear this from Sussie?
@13 RC
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Be nice to have a “Dunk the Timerman” a ”Pin the Flag on the Donkeys (MR T''s) Ass.“ or even a ”Gypsy Alicia Castro Fortune Telling Tent.” Scrap the last one, her predictions have been useless so far, sure to be wrong!
Don't forget Thinkedover”, the Two-headed Boy!!
#37
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0What's up sussie? Only 10 vowels this time, I am still trying to guess what your peculiar word means. Is it the written equivalent of a stutter ? As a point of interestcupcakes is an American terminology, in Britain the correct word is fairy cakes so called because of their size and delicacy. Fashionably eaten with afternoon tea in mannered, polite society But again, what would you know of polite, mannered society.
You give the impression of being as rough as a badger's arse.
I love the smell of burning Argie in the morning. Smells like victory.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0In a real democracy all different opinions have a place. In the Fakllands there´s no minimal debate. No one defends the “no” choice. In such a small society where everyone knows everything about the other and where any disagreement is treason, that´s not surprising.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say you`re not a colony. However, in M 10-11 British subjects will decide they want the UK to keep appointing their Governor, traditionaly a diplomat of the Foreign Office. The Governor has the power to introduce laws and take decisions even when contradicting the Legislative Assembly and the Excecutive Council. Both the Commander of the British Forces and the General Attorney appointed by London are members of the Legislative Assembly. The “Supreme Court” is made up by only one judge, that comes from London.
For the first time in history, the 2012 census does not tell how many people were born in the islands. Instead of enquiring about the nationality of the inhabitants, it asked them what nationality they were “identified” with. 59% said “Falkland Islander”. Many of these “Fakland Islanders” are British born, this includes many government officials. Half of the Legislative Assembly are British.
Anyone, despite of having British citizenship, cannot vote or be elected if he/she has delared to be loyal to a “foreign State”. The practice - non written law - prevent Argentines from acquiring residence permits or purchasing land or property on the islands. Argentine heirs were even forced to sell their inherited properties. For 17 years, Argentines were not allowed to visit the islands. Since the British occupation in 1833, the UK has controlled immigration, preventing Argentines from “threatening” the britishness of the population.
Democracy? Self-determination?
Bummers.
@44
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop obsessing about things that have nothing to do with you. You are tinkering while Rome burns, Rome being Argentina that is currently unravell
The will of inhabitants does not always decide the future of the territory in wich they live. British propaganda states that what matters is the people and not the territories.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After 1st WW, France did not recognize the will of inhabitants of Alsacia-Lorena.
The sweedih population in Aland islands expressed they wanted to be part of Sweden, but only gained autonomy under Finnish sovereignty.
The ICJ has decided in recent cases that certain territories were part of a State, although populated by people from another: 100.000 Nigerians, some with many generations in the Bakassi península, are under Cameroon´s sovereignty.
The ICJ decided the rights of these peoples should be respected by the sovereign States. Argentina has already moved into this direction when recognizing inslanders rights on its Consitution.
In Canada, the Supreme Court decided that the result of a referendum would not be enough for Quebec to be independent. Quebec would have to negotiate with other provinces and the Federal Government to decide with them wether indipendence is an option or not.
For the Scotish to decide on their independence, the UK requires the British Government consent. Unilateraly sessecion is not an option.
The UK is using a disortion of the principle of Self-determination to perpetuate its colonial posessions in the South Atlantic. This manouver wouldn´t have had a place last century. The UK is the colonial power that took longer to recognize the self-detemination principle as international law and only did it when most of its colonial posessions were already independent. Still, the UK kept violating it: Chagos Islands. Of course there was no referendum when retunging Hong Kong back to China.
#46
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hong Kong was LEASED from China and was always going to be returned when the lease ran out !
Correct, the Falklands cannot unilaterally sucede from the UK, however, if they wished to do so, the UK would swiftly grant them the right
The situation of the Chagos has been explained to you time and time again.
@46 Islas Malicious
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apart from spamming the threads with this same cut&paste argument, and bringing up nothing new that hasn't been refuted already, a hundred times,
You seem to be distorting history yourself.
Your silly examples of the UK not granting Self Determination to administered territories are false and ridiculous. Lame attempts by you to deceive.
For instance:
Hong Kong
-Was leased from China, to be handed back in 1997.
-was never British and the British publicly stated as such
-British were only permitted to administer HK for 99 years
-all inhabitants were aware of the situation and the deadline
-HK was owned by China, and is owned by China
Quebec
- a Province of Canada, a former colony of Britain which achieved Independence peacefully
-Francophone inhabitants of Quebec, full voting citizens of Canada
-Francophones recognised in Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, as a distinct society - a people!
- All citizens of Quebec, mostly 'Francphone', were eligible to participate in the Referendum to seperate.
- The majority of the inhabitants voted to stay in Canada
Best Wishes to the Falkland Island distinct society - a people, not recognised by Argentina as even existing.
A grassroots event with a majority of 50 participants, organised in advance by the official state to celebrate one of two technically poissible outcomes? How could anyone not take this seriously...
Mar 10th, 2013 - 03:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0@49fakeBK
Mar 10th, 2013 - 04:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, BK, your opinion does not matter.
Don't be a 'party pooper'!
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