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Falklands’ rights and sovereignty
By Sir Peter Westmacott (*) - Where in the world can you celebrate Margaret Thatcher Day with five kinds of wild penguins? Nowhere but in the Falkland Islands, a windswept archipelago in the South Atlantic that’s about the same area as Connecticut but has a population of only 3.100. This weekend, these small islands with a big personality face a momentous choice: a referendum to decide their political future. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesA well written article that highlights the ludicrous claims of Argentina when placed in context to the modern world.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0His hopes of a US U-turn on their thinking when the vote has come in, is a little naive though. President Obama is the most anti-British president they have ever had.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0James Madison declared war on us, is Obama really worse than that? Plus Kennedy didn't think a lot of us either whereas Obama accepted a State visit?
You might well be right about the first sentence though I am slightly intrigued regarding their line “not commenting on a referendum that has not taken place yet”. They will probably be assuming that the referendum will be free and fair and deliver an overwhelming Yes, in which case if they were going to reject it they would have been better rejecting it in principle, in advance - since there will be no good reason to reject it after.
“But sovereignty over the Falkland Islands is not up for discussion because it is not Britain’s to negotiate away. It is a decision for the Islanders and nobody else.”
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is the crux of the matter. Either HM the Queen has sovereignty or the Falkland Island electorate has it or the United Kingdom has it. There may even be shared sovereignty between the first two of these but Sir Peter is publicly casting his non-vote for the Republic of the Falkland Islands. How early Cromwellian. How outrageous or disingenuous or both.
@4
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought “DoD” advocated integration into the UK? Surely it's “Think” that would make the point you made. In any case, I fail to see how the Ambassador's words imply that the islanders don't really have full self-determination, he explicitly stated that they do!
5 Redrow
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor old Dover/ Think can't accept that the UK does actually leave our destiny up to us. Bitter and twisted old chap.
Now! Where did that nice man at the Spontaneous Grass Roots Events desk say I had to take my 110 this morning?
TWIMC
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think's “point” has always been the same....:
“Think” thinks that the UK should pay a fair indemnification to its ~2,000 British subjects in them Islands and get the hell out of the South Atlantic.......; pronto.
Please remember to leave the keys on the door locks...
Thanks for your visit, please don't come again...
El Think
Chubut, Argentina.
El Think
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Forelorn Hope.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/forlorn-hope.html
@5 The right to and exercise of self determination for the population of a defined geographical area is the very essence of sovereignty post 1945. The ambassador is articulating a position that suggests to me he has doubts about the sovereignty of the United Kingdom (of which the Falkland Islands entity is not a part) over the territory and population of the Falkland Islands. This is not the UK Government's official position and is not a part of the UK legislation that gives the Falkland Islands its Constitution.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0So. if you and he are right then we will hear no more official pronouncements that UK has no doubt over its sovereignty over the Falkland Islands. If, like me, the Government of the UK actually has no doubts then we should hear no more about determination from its employees. Unless, of course, they want it both ways in which case bright independently minded and fearless people will always recognise the cant and speak out against it whenever it is demonstrated.
@7 It follows from the above that I don't support you on this one, old chap. Having no doubts about UK sovereignty over both people and territory in the South Atlantic and Antarctica. Too much at stake to give it up to a bunch of foreigners and colonials.
@6 Joe
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have a great weekend. Looking forward to the photos and to the results.
PS. I'm loving that Think was making a big deal about the media advice the PN was giving you guys. Just because CDK can't get her PR act together Think resents that you can!
(9) Mr. McDod
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Fair enough.
La lucha continúa.
Think/div over dover outed they are in fact Zaphod Beeblebrox
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@11 Indeed it will, on a trilateral basis it seems.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0“A colleague, Gavin Shaw, and I were having a chat,” explains Dick Sawle, one of the assembly members behind the referendum. “It was a couple of years ago and we raised it with colleagues, and I suppose we weren’t that convinced. Then, when the Argentine pressure on the Falklands increased under Kirchner, we revisited the idea. And the more we thought about it, the more we thought it was a good idea.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9917947/The-fate-of-the-Falklands-is-in-the-islanders-hands.html
@11:
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0What fight? The fight was won in 1982 when Menendez signed the surrender document.
This is a debate mate, - Nothing else.
@9
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0A fine piece of scholastic nit-picking there, let down only by the fact that the Ambassador was not addressing the current situation, but what happens next.
Chuckle chuckle.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well written article. Again, Falkland Islanders well done in organising this referendum which will spell it out loud and clear what the islanders desire as to their governance.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0For the Malvinistas, to use an old Australian expression, your country has two chances to regain the islands, “none and buckleys”, so keep dreaming as your country descends into economic and social chaos thanks to your current government's marvellous efforts. For example, as has been mentioned many times before how can a government such as Argentina's be taken seriously when it denies its inflation rate is 30% and pretends its just 10%...this Peronist has almost zero credibility and anyone who supports them is either a beneficiary of their corrupt governance or frankly plain stupid...Malvinistas like Think, etc, take your pick.
Still some hope exists in Argentina with the existance of a newspaper like Clarin which has shown a preparedness to stand up to this government and has given the Falklander Islanders a fair hearing in their news coverage.
@17:
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another one is 'You've got two hope's, and one of them's Bob.”
@ Think / DoD
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you 2 just get a room. Oh, you already have one.
@9
How is it cant for the UK to claim sovereignty but also permit self-determination? The UK is clearly composed of 4 component countries and shares sovereignty with a number of BOTs. Any BOT that wants can go independent, as can Scotland and Northern Ireland. We are not Argentina, having to pretend that we have an indisputable absolute sovereign territory that includes anything and everything ever desired. Anyone that wants to leave the UK and its BOTs is free to do so, but in the meantime the UK will protect the sovereignty of those component countries and territories against foreign challenge. Surely that is exactly the UN way?
What's the guy in the green jacket doing with her?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0She's young enough to be his daughter!
@15 Me too. Can't wait.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/falklands-rights-and-referendum-on-sovereignty-88584.html
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why is her grid orange?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thought she was Catholic.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9917947/The-fate-of-the-Falklands-is-in-the-islanders-hands.html
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Says Mr Fowler: “Maybe we have been goaded into a referendum a little bit by people who justifiably say, 'Look, in the present situation, you have the best of both worlds. You are supported by Britain militarily, but you are not paying British taxes and you are actually better off than Britain. Come on, grow up a bit.’ ””
@24
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice quote there from Mr Fowler. I imagine that will go some way towards assuaging your concerns about political maturity.
25
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0We've always said we'll pay for our defence when we can afford it and we're still saying it. Not on our hands and knees like some would prefer but the relevant people in the relevant places understand our intentions.
@7 Think,
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine government should pay all you Argentine Squatters, then get the hell out of Patagonia.
Please remember to leave the keys IN the door locks.
Thanks for your visit, please don't come again.
Just me,
Here(somewhere that you will never own!).
27 Isolde
Mar 09th, 2013 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0What are you talking about. Argentines are all Native Americans. Don't go suggesting that they're European colonials! They simply decided one day to all learn Spanish and start speaking it.
26 Joe Bloggs
Mar 09th, 2013 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We've always said we'll pay for our defence when we can afford it”
To my mind there is nothing for you to pay.
The Falklands are part of the UK.
You are afforded the same rights as every other UK citizen
You pay your taxes like everyone else
If Argentina wants another rumble in the South Atlantic....We're ready with the welcoming committee!!!
Argentina Has the Power to Avoid Catastrophe
Mar 09th, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.forbes.com/sites/halsinger/2013/03/07/argentina-has-the-power-to-avoid-catastrophe/
Says it all. Time to become a responsible state Argentina and renounce your errant ways.
@29 The Falklands are not a part of the UK unless by that you mean in an emotional and an irrational sense as opposed to a legal sense. But you are right about the UK provided welcoming committee.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31 - DoD
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falklands are a British Overseas Territory, and its citizens also have British citizenship.
Because of that the UK will defend them. But Argentina couldn't fight its way out of a soggy paper bag right now, let alone invade someone else's turf.
The insane policies of the Argentine government has ensured that Argentina will never gain sovereignty over the Islands.
I mean, who would voluntarily choose to be ruled by a bunch of nationalist socialists, whose only goal in life appears to be lining their own pockets at the expense of the people they are supposed to represent?
@25 So just how does a Yes vote address any of those legitimate concerns? It's a reason for voting NO and showing the rest of the world that the electorate is ready to grow up.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 Not me, that's for sure.
Why put up with usual prat just ignor Good English, stupid cooment always
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 033
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A yes vote retains the status quo so that we may continue to grow and control our own future. It's as simple as that. From time to time I wonder why you have such an attitude and before I recall that you're not at all anything you claim to be and so, then, it all makes sense.
(35) Joe Bloggs
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't listen to him Joe.....
You go tomorrow and give your resounding YES!
That is, in my humble opinion the best for Argentina....
@Think,When are you going to return home?? THINK is an Argentine immigrant/squatter his family fled Argentina in search of a better life to Northern Europe yet he still supports The botox Queen Cristina Kirchner on her pointless task of living her dead husbands NAZI NESTOR'S dream.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So to you THINK I say at least we are sat in our own countries supporting our own people unlike you poncing of a far richer and more democratic nation than your homeland, you chose to ignore your status but we all know it your an immigrant just like Kircher just like Timerman and just like Kohen but you decide to ignore that part of your history
Always remind THINK what he really is a sad individual that THINKS his homeland is not fit to live in
In a real democracy all different opinions have a place. In the Fakllands there´s no minimal debate. No one defends the “no” choice. In such a small society where everyone knows everything about the other and where any disagreement is treason, that´s not surprising.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say you`re not a colony. However, in M 10-11 British subjects will decide they want the UK to keep appointing their Governor, traditionaly a diplomat of the Foreign Office. The Governor has the power to introduce laws and take decisions even when contradicting the Legislative Assembly and the Excecutive Council. Both the Commander of the British Forces and the General Attorney appointed by London are members of the Legislative Assembly. The “Supreme Court” is made up by only one judge, that comes from London.
For the first time in history, the 2012 census does not tell how many people were born in the islands. Instead of enquiring about the nationality of the inhabitants, it asked them what nationality they were “identified” with. 59% said “Falkland Islander”. Many of these “Fakland Islanders” are British born, this includes many government officials. Half of the Legislative Assembly are British.
Anyone, despite of having British citizenship, cannot vote or be elected if he/she has delared to be loyal to a “foreign State”. The practice - non written law - prevent Argentines from acquiring residence permits or purchasing land or property on the islands. Argentine heirs were even forced to sell their inherited properties. For 17 years, Argentines were not allowed to visit the islands. Since the British occupation in 1833, the UK has controlled immigration, preventing Argentines from “threatening” the britishness of the population.
Democracy? Self-determination?
Bummers.
Australia, New Zealand, Canada aslso have governors
Mar 09th, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@38:
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The British occupation of 1833 consisted of HMS Clio arriving, Capt Onslow asking the Argentine military to leave, and persuading nearly all of the 40 (Forty) or so population to stay. Stay.
HMS Clio then left the Islands, and those said Islanders started to raise the Union flag on Sundays, or when any ship arrived.
How can you confuse those facts as being 'occupied' by Britain?
They were occupied in 1833 by the civilians who already lived there.
The will of inhabitants does not always decide the future of the territory in wich they live. British propaganda states that what matters is the people and not the territories.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After 1st WW, France did not recognize the will of inhabitants of Alsacia-Lorena.
The sweedih population in Aland islands expressed they wanted to be part of Sweden, but only gained autonomy under Finnish sovereignty.
The ICJ has decided in recent cases that certain territories were part of a State, although populated by people from another: 100.000 Nigerians, some with many generations in the Bakassi península, are under Cameroon´s sovereignty.
The ICJ decided the rights of these peoples should be respected by the sovereign States. Argentina has already moved into this direction when recognizing inslanders rights on its Consitution.
In Canada, the Supreme Court decided that the result of a referendum would not be enough for Quebec to be independent. Quebec would have to negotiate with other provinces and the Federal Government to decide with them wether indipendence is an option or not.
For the Scotish to decide on their independence, the UK requires the British Government consent. Unilateraly sessecion is not an option.
The UK is using a disortion of the principle of Self-determination to perpetuate its colonial posessions in the South Atlantic. This manouver wouldn´t have had a place last century. The UK is the colonial power that took longer to recognize the self-detemination principle as international law and only did it when most of its colonial posessions were already independent. Still, the UK kept violating it: Chagos Islands. Of course there was no referendum when retunging Hong Kong back to China.
@35 I'm so glad it all makes sense to you. If it makes sense to you it shouldn't be too difficult for most people to make sense of it either.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sooner or later British Citizens without Falkland Island status will see that it's not in their interest to allow themselves to be robbed of their birthright by those who have that Status, particularly by “naturalised” Islanders like you. It won't be the Argentinians you have to worry about when they do.
“”“I thought “DoD” advocated integration into the UK? Surely it's “Think” that would make the point you made. ”“””
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thin & DoD are the same woman.
@38 - Maldive Islands
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina was invited to put their views across, and persuade the Islanders to vote no.
But your government was too busy pouting, and crying, and lying and crawling, and lying some more.
Face it, they blew it as a chance to show the Falklanders and the world that Argentina is really run by a bunch of NAZI's.
Also the UK didn't control immigration after 1833. Anyone who wanted could come and live on the Falkland Islands.
In fact, after the United Provinces troops (Argentina didn't exist in 1833) left, not once did the UP, or the newly flegling Provinces of Argentina or in fact ANYONE else try to usurp sovereignty of the islands.
Face it, in 1833 and after all the only 'British' presence on the Islands was a man who occasionally ran up the Union Flag. No military at all.
So one might say that the United Provinces or the then Provinces of Argentina, or the Republic of Argentina accepted by their inaction, that the UK had sovereignty over the islands.
There was nothing in place from 1833 to 1982 for anyone, and I mean ANYONE, to prevent any person from any country on earth from immigrating to the Falkland Islands.
Face it, Argentinians didn't want to live there, so they never moved there (with the exception of one or two who are now Falkland Islanders).
In 1982, Argentina decided to breach all those UN resolutions you so like to spout, by illegally invading the Falklands, causing the deaths of nearly 1000 people.
Then you have the audacity to ask why Argentines weren't welcome on the Islands in the immediate aftermath of the war, especially when you have refused to apologise for the harm Argentina did to the Islanders in 1982, and continue to act in an overtly aggressive manner to them.
Argentina is an aggressive would be coloniser, with dreams of building its own empire.
Well guess what, it'll never happen. The UK would wipe the floor with Argentina, and you haven't got a legal or a policital leg to stand on.
Game over.
@38 Islas Malvinas
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A nice piece of Plagiarism
Mercopress reads less like a newspaper and more like a propaganda pamphlet.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pathetic and sad. This man Peter Westmacott, refuses to recognize the most fundamental principles of international law, accepted by all nations. World public opinion is against the UK and is well aware of its international isolation over the Malvinas issue preferred dispute distort rather than trying to solve it.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina Fernandez and his government are trying to present the status of the Falklands as an example of British colonialism.
It's true. It is a case of English colonialism and imperialism in the 21st century. The committee considers UN decolonization to the islands as a colony. Of the 16 cases of colonialism, 10 are created by Britain.
But what could be more colonialist seeking control of a territory - more than it has ever exercised sovereignty and that his country accepted was British more than 160 years - against the wishes of the people living there?
Totally wrong. The specificity of the Malvinas is that the United Kingdom occupied the islands by force in 1833, expelled the original population and did not allow their return, thus violating the territorial integrity of Argentina.
Britain has no hostility toward Argentina.
Argentina suffered four British invasions (1806-1807-1833-1845). Currently threat to Argentina implicitly with nuclear bombs, suspected in the islands, Argentina peacefully reclaim what belongs to justice international law.
But sovereignty over the Falkland Islands is not at issue, because it is in Britain to negotiate away. It is a decision of the islanders and nobody else
Totally wrong. The UN Resolution 2065 clearly express a sovereignty dispute. No self-determination. This also puts the resolutions committee of United Nations decolonization.
UK can not change the terms of the dispute at will, can not have the desired result or waive its international obligations to peacefully resolve the sovereignty dispute with Argentina over the resumption of negotiations.
@44;
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct.
UKs refusal to negotiate sovereignty with Argentina is preventing the dispute from being peacefuly and permanently settled.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Referendum will not change the current situation. The UN will keep considering the islands a colonial case. It´s not up to the administring power to decide what´s the best way to put an end to the colonial situation or wether the territory should or not be under the UN list of Non-self governing territories.
The UN has organized and supervised referendums when it decided that was the best way to put an end to colonialism in certain cases, East Timor the most recent.
In the Falklands the UN will not organize, supervise or participate in any way in the referendum. The UK has not even tried to involve the UN in this because the UK knows it will fail in gaining support from the UN, as it has failed with Gibraltar. The UK could not even include a reference to self-determination in any of the multiple UN Resolutions regarding the Falklands Question. Why? Simply because the UN understands that the best way to put an end to the colonial situation in Malvinas is by solving the sovereignty dispute between the UK and Argentina, and not by letting inhabitants decide on the matter.
49 Islas Malvinas
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://paulburgin.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/keeping-falklands-british.html
“This meaningless Falklands referendum will resolve nothing”
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The referendum, to be held on Sunday and Monday, will solve nothing. It will exacerbate tired and anachronistic arguments about sovereignty”
Amen.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/09/meaningless-falklands-referendum-uk-sovereignty
@47 - Raul
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina didn't 'suffer' 4 invasion by the British. That would be impossible as Argentina didn't exist until 1853.
So stop LYING. It's bad for your soul.
@49 - Maldive Islands
Argentina decided they didn't want to negotiate peacefully on 2 April 1982.
By breaching ALL UNGA resolutions AND a UNSC resolution, Argentina walked away from peace, leaving the British under NO obligation to talk to you about anything.
The British and the Falkland Islanders have offered talks with Argentina, which YOUR government has ignored.
The world can see Argentina for the LYING spiteful, human rights violators that you are.
The sooner your beloved President destroys your country the better.
The UN doesn't need to 'organise' a referendum in the Falklands. The sovereign nation is doing that, all within the bounds of the UN resolution 1514, which states that all people of colonies should be helped towards independence.
There is nothing in UN resolution 1514 that states that the colony should be handed over to a 3rd power against the wishes of the inhabitants.
So if you are going to quote UN resolutions remember this:
All UN resolutions regarding the Falkland Islands were invadiated by ARGENTINA. DEFUNT. OBSOLETE. NO LONG IN EXISTENCE.
All UN resolutions regarding the de-colonisation of territories INSIST that the people of those territories be given the right (self-determination) to choose their own destiny.
The UK HAS sovereignty of the Falkland Islands, that FACT is recognised by the UN. The UK will continue to have sovereignty over the Falkland Islands until the people of the Falklands wish to change their status.
Argentina is the intruder here. Move along, nothing to see. Fix your own country and stop trying to steal someone elses.
For a suposedly Christian country, it's amazing how you all like to break the 10 commandments. Makes me think you're all just a bunch of hypocrites.
@Islas Malvinas, You talk about democracy so can you tell me where or through any international organisation where there are reports or speaches or concerns about democrecy in The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, after that can you please begin to explain why SEVERAL world organisations have recently shown GREAT concern over democracy in Argentina where THE PRESS .JUDICIARY and FREEDOM OF SPEACH are concerened or is this just another occasion of ARGENTINA ALWAYS THE VICTIM
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PLEASE REPLY
(42) Doveoverdover
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
Sooner or later British Citizens without Falkland Island status will see that it's not in their interest to allow themselves to be robbed of their birthright by those who have that Status......
Permit me to add...:
Sooner or later Chilean, Saints and others without Falkland Island status will see that it's not in their interest to allow themselves to be robbed of their birthright by those who have that Status......
Yes.....; their birthright!
It is a fact that some 60~70 “Ethnic” Chilean and Saints toddlers and youngsters BORN IN THEM ISLANDS are being denied their birthright over and over again....
Those 60~70 kids represent nearly 5% of the Island Born Population...
Nevertheless, they are discriminated year after year in favour of British newcomers with the right kind of money and skin colour....
The “Brownies” don't protest much though...
Their parents could miss their jobs, you know...
And we all know very well what that means, dont we?
Saturday 9 March 2013
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”So, as the countries of the region, through their Union of South American Nations (Unasur), have already made clear, the coming Falklands referendum is all but meaningless ”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/09/meaningless-falklands-referendum-uk-sovereignty
@45 - 50 - 54
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can also find it here:
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/falklands-rights-and-referendum-on-sovereignty-88584.html
@Marcos Alejandro and no doubt any other British Newspaper would have a different opinion like THE SUN which you would disagree with, Marcos Alejandro even though your family fled Argentina for want of a better life you came to London and are still here,why don't you go back to Argentina?????
Mar 09th, 2013 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@49 'UKs refusal to negotiate sovereignty with Argentina is preventing the dispute from being peacefuly and permanently settled.'
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It very shortly will be PERMANENTLY settled in the Islanders favour. The state of the art Air Force; Ships; and highly trained army of the United Kingdom make it so. There is nothing the Implanted Spanish Colony of the Argentine can do about it. So stop fretting about it, you will only make yourself ill.
PS forgot to mention those submarines !
@58 Forgot nucelar weapons
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kirchner,Timerman,Kohen All south American names???? were they inplanted?????
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@59 So I did; but it wouldn't be at all necessary to waste those on a banana republic.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have you noticed these Argentine trolls can never answer the TRUTHFUL parts of there own history do you get the impression they are ashamed or does the word IMMIGRANT make you all feel uncomfortable
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 041 Islas Malvinas
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If the referendum was contrary to international law as Argentina claims. You have to ask why she hasn't gone to the ICJ to have it stayed?, because in fact the referendum is legal. By not legally challenging it Argentina is acquiescing, and confirming further legitimacy by her tacit acceptance.
@Islas Malvinas, Why would The United Kingdom negociate with Argentina when Argentina as a pre dertimed outcome written into it's constitution are you stupid enough not to agree there is surely nothing to negociate?????.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina, as it claims, wants to “regain” the islands peacefully then they need to display more maturity in foreign and domestic and economic affairs - all of which are a disgrace by and standards of decency. Just one small example - their unbridled support of Hugo Chavez dictatorial methods. And then there's the internal conditions of Argentina itself - out of control street crime, unkempt streets and a landscape littered with half-finished buildings, rusting lumps of old equipment lying around, broken pavements, piles of garbage, poorly-maintained parks and public spaces and monuments, corrupt and brutal police, endless roadblocks and police checks like a typical 3rd world dictatorship, stifling inefficient bureacracy, strikes, graffiti everywhere . Just one minor example - in the untidy provincial capital where I am staying now, a few months ago they re-surfaced (very poorly I might say) all the major intersections but they have completely “forgotten” to repaint the zebra crossings. Having said that, they barely existed before (just one stripe on each side of the road and the rest rubbed out by years of traffic) and which arrogant and disrespectful of pedestrians Argie drivers never took any notice of them anyway, so I guess they considered it a waste of white paint.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0All you Argies, and their fellow travellers here, know exactly what I am talking about, don't you? So what I am saying is this - what on earth have you got to offer the Falkland Islanders except your shockingly poor-quality Argentine-made goods? (that nobody would buy if the import duties were not so outrageously high). If you want the islands “back” then you need to show that you deserve them first. Only lunatics and morons would choose to live under Argentine occupation..!!
They are importing RG made Toyota vehicles where i live, don't seem too bad, but I can see the quality is not quite the same as vehicles from other places.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you really Ernest Shackleton?
@65
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And assuming all you said is true (which it isn't), it is still the UK that is breaking-up, let alone anyone wants to join your dilapitated country.
No Argentine province wants to leave, and in fact parts of Paraguay (southwest ranchland), Bolivia (Tarija), and Chile (Magallanes), have flirted in the recent past on joining us.
#67
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Falkland Islanders don't want:
Corrupt goverment
Pariah nation status associated with Chavez, Castro and Iran,
IMF sanctions
Corrupt police
Cartoneros
Villa miserias
Grilles on windows to keep out thrives
Streets that look like rubbish tips
Chemical beef
International laughing stock
30% inflation destroying savings
Depreciating currency
Ships and planes likely to be impounded abroad
Weak defence forces
Lots of unemployment
Price controls
Mafia control
...and all the other disgusting things people suffer in Argentina
You will NEVER EVER get the Falklands, you can all cry weep and implore all the other dictatorships and failed nations.
All your stupid arguments are useless they are just made up rubbish, every single one of them is composed of lies and you have no understanding of international laws or human rights laws. If you invade again the Ghurkas are waiting with sharp kukries, our latest subs are out there and so are the SBS. The British are a peaceful nation until attacked. On Monday the Falklanders will speak and you can weep at leisure.
@67 Tobias
Mar 09th, 2013 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still spouting the same old crap?
Why don't you ever stick to one name? Why do you always change them?
As for Argentine provinces wanting to leave, well as your Dear Leader continues to destroy Argentina, and tries to circumvent the Constitution, and tries to tighten her grip on power by disempowering the Provincial Governors, then you will see them wanting to break away.
In fact, the more prosperous Provinces are wondering just why they are bankrolling CFKs retirement fund.
But never mind, the end is nigh, and even you, Tobias, with your head stuck in the sand, will have noticed that Argentina is up sh!t creek without a paddle.
The UK will continue on, with or without Scotland. It really is no big deal, no matter how much you try to make it a 'big deal'.
Oh, and no country in South America wants to be Argentine, that is another of your self delusions.
In fact, your beloved Dear Leader has insulted Venezuela by refusing to attend Chavez's funeral. I don't believe the Venezuelans' will forgive that insult, and I expect that they'll be calling in all their debts PDQ.
Argentina = bankrupt.
No one will help you now. But then I forgot, you don't need anyone, do you Tobias?
That's fine by us, the whole of Argentina can isolate itself from the world, and quite frankly the world wouldn't notice or care.
Bye bye Argentina, the end is nigh.
But don't worry Tobias, you can still live in your state of denial. :D
@INTROLLREGNVM_ here we go again, now lets get this right if Scotland voted today for independence there is no doubt there would be an overwelming NO vote thats why the Scottish nationalist are affraid and are waiting till the end of 2014 before the referendum they are even begging to give 16yr old the vote there is little doubt Scotland will remain in The union-sorry to dissapoint,also I find it strange that you say you are so well ,loved In South America yet Argentina is well know for being disliked by it's neighbours for arrogance, even The Chileans in The Falkland Islands despise Argentina and it's nasty ways so you say these countrys or part of have FLIRTED but I bet they soon chasnged there mind when they fully realised what they would be letting them self in for.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0MENDOZA the shit pit of Argentina watch your passports guys there big business in Mendoza for them.
Just a reminder to our expatriate Argentine friends who choose to live in Britain and other civilised parts of the world. This is where Argentinas indiginous population is condemned to live, venturing out after dark to collect cartons, plastic and cans.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing like it in the UK or The Falkland Islands
Villa miseria. http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Pn1BrOobG9w&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPn1BrOobG9w&gl=GB
What a dump? Join up with that, they must be joking. Why is Argentina still in the G20? Or do they collect up the cups, plates and rubbish after mertings?
Sounds lovely especially where INTROLLREGNVM lives
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Crime
The most common crimes are distraction theft, bag snatching and armed robberies. Take particular care in restaurants and internet cafes, on public transport and in the tourist areas of San Telmo, La Boca and Retiro. Keep a close eye on your personal possessions at all times. Avoid carrying large amounts of cash or wearing jewellery. Avoid isolated or poorly lit areas at night.
Con-men have been known to rob tourists while an accomplice pretends to help remove ketchup or mustard that has been 'accidentally' sprayed on them. Another common tactic is slitting handbags in crowded places and snatching mobile phones while they are being used.
Passport thefts are common especially in Buenos Aires and Mendoza. Leave your passport in a hotel safe or security box and keep a photocopy of the details page with you at all times.
Kidnappings and so called 'express kidnappings' occur in Argentina. Victims are normally held while criminals empty their bank accounts with cash cards. Once the ransom is paid the victim is usually quickly released. It is common for thefts to take place when withdrawing cash from ATMs.
If possible, book taxis in advance. If you hail a taxi in the street, only use a 'radio taxi'. These have a clearly visible company logo on the rear passenger doors. If you are being met at the airport and you don’t know your greeter, confirm their identity before setting off. Alternatively use a ‘remise’ service from the official stand in the centre of the arrivals concourse.
Bet old Nossy is not sat out there today eating Patagonian lamb and supping cheap red wine
@72 or planning his next raid..................don't forget to keep your eyes open for sussie.....................oh thats right Nozzer and sussie don't live there do they
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let's be honest most Argentine mouths on this forum do not live in Argentina they might be thick but not stupid what a disgrace that you have to flee your homeland but still feel the need to support the shit that rule it.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 Islas Malicious
Mar 09th, 2013 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apart from spamming the threads with this same cut&paste argument, and bringing up nothing new that hasn't been refuted already, a hundred times,
You seem to be distorting history yourself.
Your silly examples of the UK not granting Self Determination to administered territories are false and ridiculous. Lame attempts by you to deceive.
For instance:
Hong Kong
-Was leased from China, to be handed back in 1997.
-was never British and the British publicly stated as such
-British were only permitted to administer HK for 99 years
-all inhabitants were aware of the situation and the deadline
-HK was owned by China, and is owned by China
Quebec
- a Province of Canada, a former colony of Britain which achieved Independence peacefully
-Francophone inhabitants of Quebec, full voting citizens of Canada
-Francophones recognised in Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, as a “distinct society” - a people!
- All citizens of Quebec, mostly 'Francphone', were eligible to participate in the Referendum to seperate.
- The majority of the inhabitants voted to stay in Canada
Best Wishes to the Falkland Island “distinct society” - a “people”, not recognised by Argentina as even existing.
Why do the Argentine trolls dissapear as soon as they are put straight on the propoganda they have been fed from an early age???
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Brits,
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing to do in the Islands and they are going to do what!! OK at least something to celebrate but that thing they called “ Referendum” it is not considered by the International community neither by the UN.
I know YOU WILL NEVER GET IT BRITS. So many years sealing in the ocean to steal something they believe to be the owner of every island they poop on. THIS WORLD IT IS NOT YOURS
Sussie The Patagonian lesbian strikes again
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77:
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're mental darlin'.
77 it's SUUUUUUUUUUSI Patagonias No1 lesbian
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@77 like when argentina stole huge areas of paraguay http://media.economist.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/290-width/images/print-edition/20121222_PAM973.png
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This happened after the Falklands so return the land to the Paraguayans.
Feel free to return Patagonia to the natives who you stole that from too.... oh wait you killed them!
Andy 65
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why would Mendozans want passports? We know for a fact, from one of their most brilliant scholars, World Affairs critic, and all-round “Wiki- Picker” that they have no need to travel outside of Mendoza, let alone outside of Argentina. They have everything right there. They can experience everything from the Austrian Alps, the bustling modern Mediterranean city of Barcelona, to the stifling slums of Calcutta, all within Mendoza!!
Various cultures abound, Spanish, Italian, German, Amerindian ...er, strike that last one.
Mendosa, the greatest State in Argentina, the state of denial.
Soon to be integrated with (by) Chile. Isn't that what the troll was talking about?
@77
Mar 09th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We had an EMPIRE, and you had what?
@ 67, who shrilled...
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”No Argentine province wants to leave, and in fact parts of Paraguay (southwest ranchland), Bolivia (Tarija), and Chile (Magallanes), have flirted in the recent past on joining us.”
You are extremely deluded if you believe that? As for Bolivia I think the south and east would like to secede, but unlikely they would want to join Argentina. As for Chile - nonsense..! As for Paraguay - hey, guess what, Argies can't afford to go there as they have a laissez-faire economy with a freely-floating currency unlike Arg which robs its people (and tourists) by maintaining an absurdly high exchange rate of 5 pesos to the dollar when the blue (black) market rate is 7.80..!! When were you last in Argentina btw? 1945?
@Troy Tempest, Nossy stated that
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Argentine province wants to leave, and in fact parts of Paraguay (southwest ranchland), Bolivia (Tarija), and Chile (Magallanes), have flirted in the recent past on joining us.
What is this flirtatious behaviour by your neighbours who have never really liked you for decades why would they behave in such a way?? whats in it for them?? perhaps it's the Argentine vibrant economy and mega low inflation or perhaps Argentina's access to millions of dollors in loans from The IMF and World bank or maybe your sense of democrcay and justice what coukd it be?????
@84:
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'1945' - Love it..
Let it be noted that France also after the war requested to join The British Commonwealth
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are extremely deluded if you believe that? As for Bolivia I think the south and east would like to secede, but unlikely they would want to join Argentina. As for Chile - nonsense..! As for Paraguay - hey, guess what, Argies can't afford to go there as they have a laissez-faire economy with a freely-floating currency unlike Arg which robs its people (and tourists) by maintaining an absurdly high exchange rate of 5 pesos to the dollar when the blue (black) market rate is 7.80..!! When were you last in Argentina btw?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Chilean town want Argentina to adopt them..
http://www.elobservador.com.uy/noticia/219109/un-pueblo-chileno-quiere-que-argentina-lo-adopte/
Argentine vibrant economy and mega low inflation or perhaps Argentina's access to millions of dollors in loans from The IMF
AHAHHAHAHAHA much better than bankrupt uk....
http://www.elobservador.com.uy/noticia/219109/un-pueblo-chileno-quiere-que-argentina-lo-adopte/
Ahahaa poor deluded pirates
@Malvinero1 The only deluded pirats are THE SONS of SPANISH PIRATS like you
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ARGENTINA rampant inflation between 25% and 30% , censured by IMF for giving false and inacurate data,price controls on food due to rampant inflation a policy that as NEVER worked anywhere in the world which is more likely to cause food shortages and black markets ,Argentina locked out ogf money markets unable to borrow for inward investmant Argentina being chased through American courts by bondholders,Presidential plane and state assets unable to be used outside of Argentine borders in fear of being in pounded-and the list goes on The UK looks a million times more attractive than that shit hole they call Argentina
Boy what a wonderful world we live in, and a fantastic start to 2013,
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The world over the next couple of days will be celebrating in one way or another,
30 will be at the funeral,
160 will stay at home [mothers day]
One will be celebrating a referendum, and one will be watching,
And even the north Koreans will be celebrating their leaders new threat,
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And ONE very very lonely piece of plastic, worn and scratchy, old and greyish
Will be crying,
Fading into obscurity alone and unwanted, unloved
Poor CFK .
Still
The Falklands referendum will cheer her up no end,..
.
@88:
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spout and vomit and say what you wish,
It all ends up sounding like pish,
'n' will never bring you las malvinas on a dish.
Pirates are cool by the way, - Captain Billy Kidd for one. (A Scotsman too)
'Falklands: Sky Poll Reveals Nations Divided
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A quarter of Argentinians - but just 1% of Britons - said the Falklands is the top international issue facing their country.'
http://news.sky.com/story/1062349/falklands-sky-poll-reveals-nations-divided
But the poll did prove the kind of Democracy in Argentina compared to that in The UK where 88% believe The Falkland Islanders should have a say in there future compared to 15% in Argentina-does this show Argentines live under the rule of Cristina do as I say and ask no questions????
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would not read to much into the poll. The 1% say that the Falklands question is not the most important “International issue” and it is not, compared to Syria and threat of Nuclear war. However I think this is probably the figure that matters the most.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Nearly nine out of 10 (88%) British people who were surveyed thought the islanders should have a say on who ruled them, while six out of 10 (59%) Argentinians thought they should have no say on sovereignty.”
@reality check, Your right that is the most important figure and says alot of the people we are.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 077 you are not first
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Referendum it is not considered by the International community neither by the UN.”
Doesn't matter one iota, as its not a question of vox populi. But in point of fact it is recognized by both. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon indicated that he did not believe permanent members of the Security Council were violating relevant UN resolutions.
Likewise “the impression is that people living under those conditions should have certain level of capacities to decide their own future, and this is the main criteria from the main UN bodies: achieving independence or having certain degree of self government in their territories. I don’t think it is an issue of abuse or violation of relevant UN resolutions”, said the UN chief.
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/02/14/malvinas-cause-in-another-dead-alley
Just over 4 hours to go, before the start,
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And tomorrow the sun will again rise over the British Falklands,
And the extraordinary boring Argies will do nothing but complain for the thousandth time.
tell me CFK what did you think of the referendum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-vys78sGB7Y
The sun will shine for some but not for the dear lady, The Botox Queen Crissy Kirchner,do us all a favour and go join your dead husband, sooner the better.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@92
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The thing that surprised me most about that poll, when asked...
Which of these options do you think would be the fairest solution to the Falklands situation?
62% of RGs believe the Falklands should become RG territory!
I didn't think it would be that high. They must be really brainwashed, with a false history! No reasonable person would come to that decision, knowing all the facts.
news.sky.com/story/1062349/falklands-sky-poll-reveals-nations-divided
@97
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't you believe it mate. They will have something big (depending on how weak minded you are) planned for Monday probably.
And I would imagine on the Islands themselves. (vandalizing the Argentinian war memorial again will have been spoken about no doubt)
I am suprised it is not higher.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@96 You can repeat it as often as you like but it won't change the fact that the main UN bodies are not going to consider a population that volunteers to remain a colony as having the capacity to decide its own future. That has nothing to do with the claim by Argentina that has caused this Referendum to be launched on a generally disinterested world in the first place.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Then why does the UN give them a choice? That's what self determination is is'nt it? a choice.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@102:
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are right, the only people interested/concerned about this referendum are the argentinians. (or at least a lot of them)
“A choice ” something LACKING in Argentina these days.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#102 Crawl back under your stone. It's all about democracy and self determination something Nazis don't understand.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@102 DoD
Mar 09th, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually the UN says that it is “Convinced that all peoples have an inalienable right to complete freedom, the exercise of their sovereignty and the integrity of their national territory.”
UN resolution 1514 states:
1. The subjection of peoples to alien subjugation, domination and exploitation constitutes a denial of fundamental human rights, is contrary to the Charter of the United Nations and is an impediment to the promotion of world peace and co-operation.
2. All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.
That means my ersatz DoD, that if the people of a 'colony' wishes to remain a 'colony' then that is their right as enshrined in the UN charter.
But you know well enough that the Falkland Islands haven't been a colony for nearly 30 years. They are a self-governing British Overseas Territory.
Furthermore UN resolution 1514 states:
5. Immediate steps shall be taken, in Trust and Non-Self-Governing Territories or all other territories which have not yet attained independence, to transfer all powers to the peoples of those territories, without any conditions or reservations, in accordance with their freely expressed will and desire, without any distinction as to race, creed or colour, in order to enable them to enjoy complete independence and freedom.
Which is what the UK is doing, allowing the Falkland Islanders to freely express their will and desire.
So your opinion, and it is your opinion, appears to be completely at odds with what the UN actually says. You know the UN, that body that guarantees the freedom of ALL people regardless of race, creed, colour or religious persuasion.
But like all Argentine trolls, you won't let the truth get in the way of your Nazi-like fanaticism, will you?
http://www.un.org/en/decolonization/declaration.shtml
TWIMC
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back to the British Islanders and their “ways”....
It is a fact that there are some 350 Chileans, Saints and other “brownies” in them Islands that, despite having attained full “ Belonger Status” are NOT registered to vote.......
A bit like the Negroes in Southern-USA during the sixties......
Why did you say you wanted to register, boy...?
You better go home and “Think” it over, boy...
That's was better, boy...
It is also a fact that some 60~70 “Ethnic” Chilean, Saint and other “brownie” toddlers and youngsters BORN IN THEM ISLANDS are being denied their birthright over and over again....
Those 60~70 kids represent nearly 5% of the Island Born Population...
Nevertheless, they are discriminated year after year in favour of British newcomers with the right kind of money and skin colour....
They don't protest much though...
Their parents could miss their jobs, you know...
And we all know very well what that means, dont we?
Kirchner, Timerman, Kohen all good old South American names
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Man oh man, PMSL!!!!!! He does not recognise the islanders right to exist and he has the balls to brand them as racist, heard it all now.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0108 Think
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stop whining about it and do something.
THINK are you stupid ???? So If I am not an Argentine citizen but come to Argentina just to work there without Argenune citizenship does that mean I can vote in any elections there?????
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(111) Joe Bloggs
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As we speak, some people, maybe even her, with the funny microphone, are doing something..................
@Think, So THINK here's your chance to come clean DO YOU GET A VOTE IN THE COUNTRY YOU FLED TO???????
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0113 Think
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She couldn't have been any more pro-Falkland Islands if she tried. So you're right, people are doing things to help us. Her cameraman/ sound guy had changed the microphone cover though. Wasn't working as well as they thought. Back to one of those big foam ones.
In the meantime why don't you and your deadbeat cronies do something instead of whining all the time.? Grow a pair old man.
Chuckle chuckle.
115 Joe Bloggs
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Icarus flight, dear Joe...... Icarus flight.
116 Think
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gonads, dear Think........gonads.
BBC News just reporting From Port Stanley nice to see Typhoon Jets flying above.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THINK keeping quiet does not make you something you are not if truth be known your family probably pissed of from Argentina after beeing involved with the military Junta MAS MURDERERS OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
#113 So that's what its about is it? Go spout your lies somewhere else, everyone is tired of your bile. Crawl back under your stone. A grudge against the islanders? You think they are racists?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There are racists everywhere, and you are a prime example yourself - hypocrite
118
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile in Argentina live on canal 7, President Queen Botox just announced, via a press statement from onboard the ARA “Santísima Trinidad, that she is about to set sail with a new military force to take the islands.
@CaptainSilver Have you noticed THINK never answers that some of us here know all about him and his nasty inbread family ,fled Argentina to escape prosecution.
Mar 09th, 2013 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gibraltarians have also voted 98% to remain British rather than join Spain, an incomparably nicer and much better-ruled country than Argentina. And most Gibraltarians are native Spanish-speakers. What does that tell you Argies?
Mar 09th, 2013 - 11:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 055 Marcos Alejandro
Mar 10th, 2013 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Good for your link, Marcos!
The British author is 100% but it seems to use his head and therefore apply the same arguments as the Argentines.
See if bloggers learn here Richard Norton-Taylor.
It still shows how jealous and envious these Argies are.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0We bet CFK secretly wishes she was a brit
After all, she cant stop talking about us.lol.
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Think - once a Saint has residenct they can usually apply to go on the electoral Role as they are already British.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chileans- and Argentines- go on the electoral role after they have first achieved residency - and then once they then later take out Br Natioanlity as well.
Who in the world would WANT to celebrate Margaret Thatcher day. Certainly not the British who suffered under her vindictively anti-poor government!
Mar 10th, 2013 - 03:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0@126 fakeBK
Mar 10th, 2013 - 05:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not that your opinion as a troll means anything.
Despite the very UNpopular things that Mrs. Thatcher did to turn the economy around, not everything she did was bad.
The very forcefulness and confidence she had to make hard unpopular decisions at home, were what she needed to commit the UK and all the skill and bravery of her Armed Forces to fight hard against great odds to assure the freedom of her people, the Falklanders.
“Who in the World?” - the FREE people of the Falklands, who can now be assured they can choose their own future, with a Referendum!
@127 ...and the recovery of our property, the Falklands. This is a consultative Referendum by the way so the one you must be talking about is the one following the NO vote.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0(125) Islander1
Mar 10th, 2013 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say…:
”Think - once a Saint has residence they can usually apply to go on the electoral Role........
Chileans- and Argentines- go on the electoral role after they have first achieved residency........”
I say….:
I know all that…….
What I’m saying in my post (108) is:
1) There are some 2,000 adults in them Islands with a “theoretical” right to vote…..
2) Of those, only about 1,600 are registered in the Electoral Role.
3) If you care to read the ”Electoral Role” you will notice that the ~400 names missing are by and large those of the Chileans, Saints and other ”brownies”….
4) My point is that the brownies are actively and passively discouraged from registering by the British Administration and the Kelper society.
Same unwritten“Discouragement Policy” is used against ~ 60/70 “Ethnic” Chilean, Saint and other brownie toddlers and youngsters BORN IN THEM ISLANDS.
A myriad of ”Administrative Procedures” keeps them from ever obtaining their ”Falkland Status” or whatever is it you call that parody of racist immigration legislation you have conceived to keep them Islands British….
And nobody dares to protest because the first rule in Kelper society is…:
”The nail that sticks out gets hammered down”
ANYBODY in them Islands can easily find out if I’m telling porkies here…
Just ask one of those brownie youths (you know...., those kids born at the same hospital as your kids, those kids that attend the same school as your kids etc…) if they have “Belonger Status”.
Some of you are in for a surprise…..
Brainwash anybody?
@129 - Think
Mar 10th, 2013 - 08:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Getting desperate, are we? LOL
Guess what. Argentina the LOSER.
By the way you keep pulling the race card. I find that amusing considering Argentina is one of the most racist places on earth.
By the way Brownies is an organisation for girls to promote friendship and cooperation:
http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/brownies/
Only a racist, such as yourself, would use a derogatory name for someone who doesn't have the same skin colour as you. But then again, you are Argentine, and Argentina is one of the most racist places on earth.
March 10 and 11, the days the Falklands expressed their rights to self-determination, will go down in history as showing up Argentina for the fascist dictator state with colonial ambitions that it is.
Game over Think. You Argentines must be getting used to losing by now, one would 'think'.
@129 Thinkedover
Mar 10th, 2013 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think 1
you seem very bitter that you can never be a Falklander - ever!
Think 2
same think, of course - additionally, you seem to be frustrated that the Islands will not vote “NO” and possibly become 'integrated' into the UK, or allowed to become Independent of Britain (as you see it - ripe for take-over).
Either way, you are NOT going there, either.
Herr Think
Mar 10th, 2013 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is always the theory according to what Think “thinks” but never backed with any proof.
@131 Ah. You're a Canadian aren't you? The plot thickens.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 09:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those damn Canadians! plotting to install democracies around the world. We are lucky to have peole who are courageous enough to expose their fiendish scheme.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@129 Think
Mar 10th, 2013 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0If this were so, then Argentina has been remarkably ineffective in dredging up disgruntled actual or former victims. Imagine the propaganda value your bastion of human rights could wring out of a real-life, walking, talking, victim of alleged racist colonial practices. But no, we have to make do with the collaborator Betts and Bingham.
The least they could have done would be to involve some disgruntled, I quote, “Brownies!”
Mar 10th, 2013 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Strange how silent their voices are, perhaps the Falkland Islands Secret Police have them “nailed” down!
Perhaps they do, but they just couldn't find enough room at the back of Tango One the last time they flew up to the C24.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ambassador Westmacott has visited the Falkland Islands three times (like myself), so he knows what he is talking about!
Mar 10th, 2013 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0If all UK ambassadors visited the Islands, FCO would perhaps realise how stupid is fascist Argentina's claim.
Philippe
Here is a “Little Philosophical Encyclopedia of Falklands Britishness”, with plenty of argumentations from different branches of knowledge and with Thomistic and Theistic input judged suitable by the author: www.falklandophilia.com
Mar 10th, 2013 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bennies today decide to be British...........exelent....,then the next meeting there will be NOT three parts!!.You are british and self-determination does not apply! & REMEMBER we want just the islands,!! goog luck :)
Mar 10th, 2013 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Some of the Argie trolls here seem to be hopefully suggesting that if the Chileans and Saints were able to vote then they would vote for Argentine rule. I doubt that is the case as both the Chileans and the Saints would be forced/kicked out if the Falklands were in Argentine hands. However, if any one of them did, that would be convincing proof that they had never actually visited Argentina..!!
Mar 10th, 2013 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@140
Mar 10th, 2013 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to have misunderstood what the referendum was about. It wasn't about nationality, it was about political status as a BOT.
They know they are British, Self determination does apply and you can just not have them.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What next meeting? I was not aware that the last meeting took place, did we miss something? Ah, unilateral meetings! great idea, the only way you are going to get any agreement.
Bennies never will be happy,knowning Argentine exist having better arguments that the British! Someday, your trick will be ended
Mar 10th, 2013 - 04:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someday, in the near future no doubt?
Mar 10th, 2013 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Like about when? let's see? when HELL FREEZES OVER.
How about then?
Not long for that to happen!! Glück Bennies!! :)
Mar 10th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@47 Still drooling? Here's a fundamental principal of international law; uti possidetis; territory and other property remains with its possessor at the end of a conflict. Think back to 1982. Who won and who got their little twitching arses kicked? UN resolution 2065 is NON-BINDING. A FACT that you have trouble getting to traverse the empty space between your ears. So get stuffed!
Mar 10th, 2013 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@49 Prick!
@55 That thing you call “unasur” is meaningless. A bunch of colonialist, imperialist nazis.
@59 We haven't!
@67 Can't. The federal crooks have stolen so much, everyone's poor. Still pushing for a AR400 peso monthly wage? That's £80 per month. Four years ago, before I retired, I was getting over £2000 (nett) per month. Only poor people gibber in Spanish.
@78 It's a transsexual. A shemale. Services all comers! And it's queer.
@88 Mental.
@102 The UN will do as it's told. What do you think it is? Some sort of “world government”? Note some important FACTS. NO UN General Assembly resolution is binding. UN Security Council resolutions are binding on members. Argieland is, supposedly, a member. It ignored UNSC 502. Let's be straight. If the UK decided to nuke argieland and was stupid enough to tell the UN it was going to do it, what could the UN do? Diddly squat. Couple that with the information that the UN in New York has also been targeted? No. The fact is that the power is with those who hold it. And, amongst others, the UK holds it!
@108 They might be sent to argieland!
@116 Another illegal immigrant! Shoot on sight. Shoot all argies on sight. Shoot all latams on sight. Shoot all latinos on sight. Or cut their throats!
@126 Prick! Didn't she authorise the killing of 649 argies? Should have demanded 1000 times as many!
@129 Our land, our rules. Argies should be grateful they aren't forced to swim “home”.
@140 Don't be disappointed. Get your butt plug in and bounce. Doesn't that feel good?
@144 But, soon, argies and gusty may not exist. 7,500 miles. Trident. Fire!
147@ shut up idiot!(speaking in serious)For the British, Bennies are an unnecessary expense!And they're right!read the comments lol
Mar 10th, 2013 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4834135/David-Cameron-promises-to-protect-Falklanders-from-potential-Argentine-backlash.html
#147
Mar 10th, 2013 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It's worth every penny ! It pisses of Argentina which cannot be a bad thing. Anything that two-fingers your crowd of malevolent whingers is money well spent. !
Lets face it, Argies hate our guts. If we hand over the Falklands,you will still hate our guts but start crowing about how you stuffed the Gringos. Next it's S.Georgia, S.Sandwich islands, Antartica and God knows what else
So, the line in the sand has been drawn by your country.
The Falkands belong to the population who stay there, not Argentina. Get used to it !!
@134RC
Mar 10th, 2013 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinians can't seem to understand that the Falklanders can remain British and AT THE SAME TIME, they can be a distinct people, The Falkland Islanders.
Conversely, much to the frustration of the Thinkedover twins, even if all Falklanders were declared 'British', not all British will be Falklanders.
:-)
The trolls like to cite the case of the Canadian Province of Québec being denied their Self Determination by Referendum, insisting that the Canadian government would impose conditions to make it impossible.
For a start, the Referendum to seperate was defeated, with both sides respecting the vote in which the majority of Quebecers decided to stay in Canada.
Secondly, the citizens of Quebec are all Canadian Citizens as well. Not only that, but they are are also recognised as a 'distinct society', a “people”, in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
They are protected by the Canadian Government as 'Canadians'. However, Quebec has its own legislature, with representation in the national Parliament. Quebec still reserves the right to hold another Referendum.
Wow I'm loving the anti-Falkland logic gymnastics this referendum has created.
Mar 10th, 2013 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The one I especially like: [though it might be hard to find it as several comments keep getting removed by someone.... :) ]
Nation 'A' of ~40 million plus people would like to claim nation 'B' of ~3,000 people.
Nation 'A' invades nation 'B'.
Nation 'A' unilaterally makes a foreign language the official language.
Nation 'A' unilaterally changes place names to a foreign language.
Nation 'A' unilaterally changes laws to reflect those of a foreign country-namely road rules and units of measurement.
Nation 'A's military police arrest and deport critics of Nation 'A'.
Nation 'A' denies the new citizens of its country the most basic human rights regarding liberty and privacy.
Nation 'B' is liberated and after past experience with Nation 'A' increases/imposes/strengthens conditions to protect its identity and independence from Nation 'A' to avoid another loss of their independence as only 0.01% of Nation 'A's population would be needed to potentially repeat the list above. Without a proverbial shot being fired.
Citizens of Nation 'A' rail against the injustice of rules that a people take to protect their way of life without once wondering how their own nation created this need.
And will you look at that! Not once did I need to uses a racist or derogatory term under the guise of making an argument.
As always this is no more than Viveza Criolla from the RG's.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 12:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viveza_criolla
They would laugh their backs off if their lies and deceit managed to price the Islands away. They will simply say, lie, deceive and do anything to get their own way.
To any Kelper it may Concern……
Mar 11th, 2013 - 07:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Usually I have some 8-10 Kelpers in here dissecting my “unconvenient”comments for the most minute discrepancy or inconsistency with the truth….
That’s good…...............................
I can see though, than none of you have even tried to contest or contradict anything in my posts (108) & (129).
Difficult to deny the reality you meet everyday on the streets, at work, at school… huhhhh?
Human hypocrisy has some physical & mathematical boundaries after all….
Let’s try again…..:
1) There are some 2,000 adults in them Islands with a “theoretical” right to vote…..
2) Of those, only ~1,600 are registered in the Electoral Role….
3) Reading the Electoral Role one notices that the ~400 names missing on it are, by and large, those of the Chileans, Saints and other ”brownies”….
4) My point is that the brownies are actively and passively discouraged from registering by the British Administration and Kelper society.
Same unwritten “Discouragement Policy” is applied against some 60/70 “Ethnic” Chilean, Saint and other brownie toddlers and youngsters born in them Islands.
Jupppp….. I said BORN IN THEM ISLANDS.
(They represent ~5% of the Island born population)
A myriad of ”Administrative Procedures” keeps them from ever obtaining their ”Falkland Status” or whatever it is that parody of racist immigration legislation you have conceived to keep them Islands British is called….
And nobody dares to protest because the golden rule in Kelper society is…:
“*” The nail that sticks out gets hammered down ”*”
ANYBODY, in them Islands can easily find out if I’m telling porkies here…
Just ask one of those brownie youths (you know...., those kids born at the same hospital as your kids, those kids attending the same school as your kids etc…) if they have “Belonger Status”.
Birthright, democracy, fairness, human rights….... they work only one way on them Islands….
Brainwash anybody?
@153 Think
Mar 11th, 2013 - 07:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another fisherman's story- “you should have seen the one that got away”
Again where is your proof ????????
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/09/falklands-rights-and-sovereignty#comment226056
Mar 11th, 2013 - 08:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Haloooooooo......
Any Kelpers out there ???
@153 Think
Mar 11th, 2013 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Another fisherman's story- “you should have seen the one that got away”
Again where is your proof ????????
Another Fisherman's story.....
Mar 11th, 2013 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Joe Bloggs (#) Dec 11th, 2012 - 07:22 pm Report abuse
“There is not a chance of this happening but thanks all the same. It's something we keep an eye on constantly. Picture a big shower mixer tap. You can let a bit of hot in, a bit of cold in, a bit of both or just shut it off. Well our immigration control works like that and we have our hand firmly on the tap handle.”
C'mon Kelpers…
Mar 11th, 2013 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0C’mon Isolde, Monty96, Islander1, WestisBest, Falklandlad, Foxtrot Indigo, Joe Bloggs, Benson, M_of_FI or even brainwashed Kelperabout……
It’s over 06:00AM… I know you are all up feeding the chickens ;-)
Any comments on…:
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/09/falklands-rights-and-sovereignty#comment226056
@157/158
Mar 11th, 2013 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think is stating that there are people, who were born on and are still living on the Islands, that are being denied residential status.
@159 No, clearly not residential status but political status. To be “belonging to the Falkland Islands” you need to be born with or acquire British citizenship. It isn't enough to be born on the islands if your parents are not British. See the Constitution rather than the administrative procedures (not least because its easy to find the Constitution, being UK legislation).
Mar 11th, 2013 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinians have a thing about this birth business, once sending a woman to give birth in Antarctica in a sad attempt to make Argentinians the indigenous population of Antarctica.
@160 DoD,
Mar 11th, 2013 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Quite correct.
@158 Think,
Too busy to reply to you Think.
Much work to do.
Party time, doncha know?
@161 Thank you.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0(160) Mr.McDod
Mar 11th, 2013 - 09:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“The Argentinians have a thing about this birth business....”
I say...:
Correct !!!
And the British do not....
Except, of course, when whining about those “Poor British Kelper Sausages” born in them Islands....
“We are born here”... “We are born here”... they constantly whimper.
The World must respect our Birthright......., is their moaning Mantra.
Conveniently forgetting however…… that your own freaking British F***lands Immigration Legislation doesn't respect that right...
Brainwash anybody?
@163 Sr Think,
Mar 11th, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not today thank you.
Your interpretation of Birth is born of an aggressive policy, seeking to overturn the status quo. Ours is born of a defensive policy, seeking to reinforce the status quo. Entirely consistent.
161) Isolde
Mar 11th, 2013 - 10:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Enjoy your party, dahling…
Easy on the Polish Vodka though…
Watch for the hangover… You are not twenty anymore...
(164) Mr. McDod
The whole point with my post (153) is to enlighten about British hypocrisy…
About how those rights enshrined in that UK piece of legislation pompously labeled “Constitution” that's supposed to rule them Islands, are grossly and constantly bypassed by “administrative procedures” when the subject skin colour is darker than pinkish…..
Entirely consistent with British tradition, I must say.
@165 Oh, thanks. I hadn't worked that out but now I know.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0(166) Here to help.....
Mar 11th, 2013 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@165
Mar 11th, 2013 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Have you come up with any evidence for this contention since you first posted it?
Like an actual victim, for example? Or are we supposed to just take your word for it?
Take Joe's word.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0”Picture a big shower mixer tap. You can let a bit of hot in, a bit of cold in, a bit of both or just shut it off. Well our immigration control works like that and we have our hand firmly on the tap handle.”
@165 Think
Mar 11th, 2013 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Again more rubbish regarding the colour of ones skin, of those born on the islands, being a bar to citizenship.
The act basically does not give the automatic right, to a child born to some one visiting the Islands, to citizenship - however it does not bar one born and living on the islands from citizenship.
169 Doveoverdover
Joe was speculating on immigration control and not discrimination on those born on the islands based on the colour of their skin.
@169
Mar 11th, 2013 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sonds like pretty much anybody's immigration policy to me.
If it's not too much trouble, how might one go about consulting the Falkland Islands Electoral Register?
@170. Joe never speculates, he asserts with conviction. While I dissociate myself from the racist implications of Thinks posts I do agree with both Think and Joe (and now you and HansNiesund) that the immigration policy is designed (not unreasonably in my opinion) to protect the status quo and importantly the privilleges of the beneficieries of that staus quo. I'm surprised that anyone denies it, but they do.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 11:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0@172
Mar 11th, 2013 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry. but include me off your bandwagon until such time as something which might reasonably be regarded as evidence has been presented.
Perhaps in this respect, Think might care to share with us lesser turnips his method of consulting the Falklands Islands Electoral Register?
But failing that I will just regard this as a typical attempt to divert attention from the main point at issue by fabricating a smear in an unrelated or tangential area.
@172
Mar 11th, 2013 - 12:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so you are agreeing with Thinks assertion of discrimination on those born on the islands based on the colour of their skin.
@173 I'm sorry and surprised you cannot agree that the immigration policy of the Falkland Islands is designed to protect the status quo and those who benefit from it. I would have thought that was much like anybody's immigration policy.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 12:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@172 I dissociate myself from the racist implications. I do agree with Think though that those who are not born of British parents are discriminated against and coincidentally there is a very high proportion of non-anglo saxon white people among that category.
TWIMC
Mar 11th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How nice to see so many Brits dissociating themselves from any “Racist Implications”....
How nice it would be to see as many Brits dissociating themselves from any “Colonial Implications”....
Leave those ”useless” Sandwich & Georgias del Sur alone...
Leave our Chilean and Argentinean Antarctic Sectors alone...
Want some Antarctic Ice? Go and share some with your Ozzie cousins...
Maybe then, somebody would begin to believe in you, Brits...
@175/176
Mar 11th, 2013 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you have any proof for your point “that those who are not born of British parents are discriminated against”.
@175
Mar 11th, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'd be surprised if it isn't. But as you say yourself, Think's regrettably unsupported thesis goes a little beyond that.
@176
And there he goes off again on another tangent, having been rumbled on this one.
But do come back when you've got a better argument than an indistinct drawing of a flag, a Norwegian whaler on a lease, and an airlift of pregnant women in violation of a treaty you've signed.
@176 Happy to oblige. I dissociate myself entirely from any support of the colonial aspirations of Chile and Argentina in Antarctica and the South Atlantic specifically and only where they threaten the colonial achievements and aspirations of the United Kingdom.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Recapitulating.....
Mar 11th, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Kelper answers to my Post (108)………:
(111) & (115) Joe Bloggs
”Stop whining about it and do something.”
”…..why don't you and your deadbeat cronies do something instead of whining all the time”
(125) Islander1
”Think - once a Saint has residenct they can usually apply to go on the electoral Role as they are already British.
Chileans- and Argentines- go on the electoral role after they have first achieved residency - and then once they then later take out Br Natioanlity as well.”
Kelper (wannabe) answer to my Post (153)….:
(161) lsolde
”Too busy to reply to you Think. Much work to do. Party time, doncha know?”
Evidently the above two and a half well informed Kelpers didn’t have many arguments to refute any of my assertions…
Maybe some of the other ”Well Informed Kelpers” would like to try?
Maybe not...
180
Mar 11th, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Whine whine whine.
@180
Mar 11th, 2013 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Can non-Kelpers play?
I'll have a go, but first you have to explain how to access the Falkland Islands Electoral Register. From Chubut. Or indeed, anywhere else.
(182)
Mar 11th, 2013 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Non-Kelpers may play.
Turnips........ please abstain.
You, Mr Hans Nielsund are on my “Turnip Lizt” :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V3SqxUomwk
@183 But there's something of the Turnip in all of us.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 02:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(184) Mr. McDod
Mar 11th, 2013 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We agree..................... again.
But, Mr. Hans Nielsund is a complete “Turnip Surprise”.
The surprise being.......: There's nothing in it except the Turnip.
Baldrick©
@183
Mar 11th, 2013 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh dear.
Would an accredited non-Turni, if such a thing exists, please be so kind as ask the question for me, since despite three attempts I have so miserably failed at obtaining an answer?
The question is: “how does one access the Falkland Islands Electoral Register from outside the Falkland Islands?”
The reason for asking, of course, is that Think has implied familiarity with the contents of the “Electoral Role”. I am sure this is true, and am only interested in discovering how he did it so that I can sell the information to the Chinese.
@183 HansNiesund
Mar 11th, 2013 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You will never get a direct, sensible and truthful answer from Think'.
He will hide, like a spoilt child, behind comments like “I don't speak to turnips”.
He has also a mistaken belief that kindergarten name calling like kelpers, non-kelpers etc. impresses or frightens people.
TWIMC
Mar 11th, 2013 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Time for Bradford West to have a Referendum and secede from the United Kingdom!
Time for Bradford West to seal a ”Free Association Agreement” with Saudi Arabia for Economic Development.
Time for Bradford West to seal a ”Free Association Agreement” with Pakistan for Nuclear Defence.
Time for Bradford West to seal a ”Free Association Agreement” with Afghanistan for Women’s Affaires.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/126124/british-mp-calls-for-malvinas-sharedsovereignty
Chuckle chuckle©
@187
Mar 11th, 2013 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ever thus when you challenge the Chuckle Brothers ...
I see he's latched on to George Galloway now. I, for one, entirely agree with George here. We should send him ASAP to BA mediate.
“Señora Presidenta, this is George. He likes to play cats”
TWIMC
Mar 11th, 2013 - 04:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Señora Presidenta, this is George. He likes to play cats.... and slap cocky Yanks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk
@190
Mar 11th, 2013 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0.. and suck up to dictators ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzWNXEtwHUc
Galloway would do well BA, he had great respect for Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi,
Mar 11th, 2013 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He could help the in the relations with Iran with his broadcasts on Press TV, Galloway walked out of a publicized debate when he found out his opponent was an Israeli.
(191) My dear Turnip…
Mar 11th, 2013 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are politicians…
It is their job to make things work….
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1072174.ece
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1072174.ece
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1072174.ece
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/National/article1072174.ece
186 HansNiesund (#)
Mar 11th, 2013 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 11th, 2013 - 02:49 pm
The answer to your question is that the information provided by the Electoral Roll in the Falklands is NOT available on-line, but if you wish to find out if your name appears on the roll, please apply by e-mail to: registrargeneral@townhall.gov.fk
So unless Think took the trouble of listing 1.672 names and asking the Registrar for confirmation of each one, I think we can safely say that as usual he/she/it is lying!!!!!
Please send George to BA - on a one - way ticket. He and CFK deserve each other.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 06:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@194
Mar 11th, 2013 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gasp!
But this would mean that the Chubut Chuckler had resorted to untruth in an attempt to score cheap points on a subject unrelated to the thread!
And one that's so easy to check too. What a turnip. One might even conclude that the nabob of nabos got nabbed.
mmmmmmmm
Mar 11th, 2013 - 08:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The referendum is all but over,
and its still the british falklands,
and as proved Argentina did nothing,
CFK did nothing,
and her bloggers on here just either insult like gutsbury, or now dont want to know,
this ammount to nothing,
poor argies just just cant stop doing nothing can you.
Wow amazing how quickly Think veers the conversation in a new direction when confronted with requests for FACTS.
Mar 11th, 2013 - 08:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You silly “brownie”.
(198) That's a bit rich coming from a brownie king.....
Mar 11th, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the comeback!
Mar 11th, 2013 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Someone is slipping. Rattled even.
I'm guessing that's a snide homophobic remark.
Racist and homophobic - a true reflection on your country. How proud you make Argentina.
By the way, I, a Queen. Have some respect and get it right.
they are still counting,
Mar 12th, 2013 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0the result should be up by 0100 uk time.
Is a “news” site the correct place to publish propaganda such as this article?
Mar 12th, 2013 - 12:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0@202
Mar 12th, 2013 - 01:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is enough Argentinian propaganda published here on this there “news site”
http://en.mercopress.com/2013/03/09/falklands-rights-and-sovereignty#comment226558: So, what's your point?
Mar 12th, 2013 - 03:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Mar 12th, 2013 - 06:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0it does not matter,
Mar 12th, 2013 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0the british won.
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