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Falkland Islands’ message to Cristina Fernandez: we have absolutely no desire to be ruled from Buenos Aires
“President Cristina Fernandez, we have sent you a message: we have absolutely no desire to be ruled by the Government in Buenos Aires and we hope that now you might respect that”, said the spokesperson for the Falklands’ elected government in the aftermath of the referendum which showed the Islanders almost unanimously (99.8% of ballots) want to remain a British Overseas Territory. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesHalf of Argentina feels the same.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0more than half i'd say.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0“This isn't self-determination. It's a Ruritanian colonial relic”
Mar 13th, 2013 - 04:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The vote for British rule in the Falklands referendum dodges the point. It's time for a negotiated settlement with Argentina”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/12/falklands-vote-ruritanian-colonial-relic
All of Argentina wants nothing to do with the UK, Europe, and the USA. Get lost, you are a waste of oxygen on this earth.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0CFK: cut the crap and leave the islanders alone.
@ geez Marcos is that the best you can do..
Mar 13th, 2013 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0'to keep them in the Rhodesian retro style to which they are accustomed?' Shamus the Sham really has no clue has he...
You are up late tonight... oh sorry... you live in the UK don't you.....
@3 The “useful idiots” (to coin Stalin's phrase) have struck again.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0What part of self determination doesn't he understand? There is nothing to negotiate any more. It's over.
From the UN's news section: http://www.undispatch.com/small-island-big-vote-falkland-island-votes-to-remain-british
Mar 13th, 2013 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 04 _INTROLLREGNVM_
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“CFK: cut the crap and leave the islanders alone”.
You know, this maybe the first intelligent thing that you have said on this forum. It was a long time coming but you got there in the end.
For the rest of you please note:- KFC is trotting out the same old lines again and again that she is now starting to p*ss of the La campora trolls on here!!!
This woman is really, really loosing support, even amongst her own supporters!!
TWIMC
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0The good men of England are avakening after that Ruritanian colonial referendum…. (Seumas Milne?.... What kind of ugly Dago name is that?)
”Tiny British settler population, most of whom weren't born there but are subsidised to the tune of £44,856 a head to keep them in the Rhodesian retro style to which they are accustomed”
(Ahhhhh Rhodesia ….. all those ”When I”….Pamwe Chete memories ;-)
In fact, British governments only developed a taste for self-determination after they had been forced to abandon the bulk of their empire and saw a way to hold on to colonised enclaves of dependent populations in places like Gibraltar and Northern Ireland.
But it's always been a pick and mix affair: there were no self-determination ballots for the people of Hong Kong or the Chagos Islands, expelled by Britain four decades ago to make way for an American air base in Diego Garcia. There are different rules, it seems, for white people.
(”Different rules for white people?”….. No sh*t, Sherlok!)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/12/falklands-vote-ruritanian-colonial-relic
To Mr. McDod
3 x 400£ DNA test price = 1,200£
Salt on the peanuts…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/12/falklands-vote-ruritanian-colonial-relic
'After the referendum, Cristina called “squatters Consortium” the kelpers - It was the first official reaction. The President praised America's position. announced that it will continue to “neutral”.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0At the end of a long speech almost of popular science, in which he spoke of the incas and vicuñas, properties of Andean plants and projects in the area of science, among other topics, Cristina Kirchner dismissed in strong terms the referendum carried out by the kelpers that ratified his desire to remain a British overseas territory. The President described him as “a parody of referendum” and paraphrase a title's cover of the newspaper Ambito Financiero of yesterday, which held, said that the inquiry was a “meeting of consortium of squatters to see if they were illegally occupying the building.” Of course, the result was sung“, he mocked.
Cristina was pleased with the position of the British, the United States 'main ally”, where the Government acknowledges the existence of a sovereignty dispute and invites the parties to dialogue. The President described that stance as “very important”. It stressed also the statements of the spokesman of the State Department, Victoria Nuland, who yesterday said that Washington recognizes “Administration de facto of the United Kingdom of the Islands”, but that the referendum does not change the position of his country, and encouraged the parties to resolve the dispute through diplomatic channels and dialogue....
http://www.clarin.com/politica/referendum-Cristina-consorcio-okupas-kelpers_0_881911828.html
@9 Poor old John Fowler, already under suspicion, is likely to be among the first to be tested together with that nice elderly coupled shunned these past 20 years or so for suggesting being friendlier with Argentina might ease the tension.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Maybe we have been goaded into a referendum a little bit by people who justifiably say, 'Look, in the present situation, you have the best of both worlds. You are supported by Britain militarily, but you are not paying British taxes and you are actually better off than Britain. Come on, grow up a bit.’ ” It's that word “justifiably” that will do for him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9917947/The-fate-of-the-Falklands-is-in-the-islanders-hands.html
@9
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina were, for example, Sweden, this view might command a more easily detectable level of support. Unfortunately, Argentina remains Argentina. But you might like to try again if ever you manage to make it out of the 1930s, and get the hang of this democracy thing.
(11) Mr. McDod
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I must admit that I was surprised by those lonely 3 NO votes....
I was expecting something in the order of 30~60........
Peerpressure is certainly getting stronger in them Islands...
No problem though....
The higher they fly.....
@13 Of course, I too was disappointed that there won't be a public debate before the election later in the year so now there is not much hope of them growing up a bit by then either. My hope is for some sort of dawning realisation that they are doomed to be forever petitioners at a decolonisation hearing in New York unless they come up with some sort of defensible proposal for a status change. Actually, not its not. My hope is that UK gets a grip and stops trying to use self determination as an alternative to integration into the UK, which is a defensible proposal for a status change.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0And for the sake of form, let me remind you that integration into the national territory of Argentina is not one of the options open to the Falkland Islands, SGSSI and British Antarctica because that would be against the will of the British People and the Falkland Island population that are a part of it.
@9 it's called freedom of speech, and individuals are allowed to say what they think, unlike in some places where you have rabid knuckle draggers accusing the open minded of being traitors to Latin america. Or being shot in the back at a bus stop for being about to tell the truth about a train crash.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0(14) Mr. McDod
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well then ........
We (and the rest of the brownish world) will have to convince the English government into swaying the will of the English people.........
Wont we?
Bring it on Argentina. we see the childish dummy spitting intensify but lets face it your ideals are not what we want. No one in there right mind would want to live under your regime. Our way is a Free way that the world should be proud of. Just wish our way could be shared with every other oppressed nation on earth.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0(17) kelperabout
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0What a beautiful superior speech from the English…..
Let’s put some music and pictures to it….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxvjHDmmJoA
Fell free to use the above graphic and musical material on your brand new series of Youtube English Falkland videos...
It's 100% English composed and produced anyhow...
@16 Greetings from the multicultural and multiracial United Kingdom.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Time to educate the ENGLISH…..
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the ~3 years I have been present on these pages there have been countless English people ”explaining” to the brownies….:
It’s not ENGLISH, it’s British
or
It’s not ENGLISH, it’s the U.K.
or
It’s not ENGLISH, it’s Scottish.
or
It’s not ENGLISH, it’s Welsh.
or
It’s not ENGLISH NAVY, it’s the Royal Navy.
or
It’s not ENGLISH ARMY, it’s the British Army.
or
It’s not ENGLISH AIRFORCE, it’s the Royal Air Force.
And so on….., In Aeternum.….
From today though, I will solely employ the term that most brownies, all over the world, use when having to refer to the Les Goddams Bloody British…..
And that's….: Les Goddams Bloody ENGLISH….
Please, bear with me.
Yours
El Think
@20 Greetings from the multicultural and multiracial England.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0:-)
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well done Falkland Islanders for having the get up anb go and the courage to hold the referendum in the face of continued agression from argentina. Congratulations on the overwhelmingly positive result. No surprises there of course, but you have formally stated your position to the international community and there can now be no doubt about the wishes of the Islanders.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ok all you Brits and Falklanders. I put this petition up on the White House website. I need 100k signature for them to pick it up, I suggest you sign it.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-our-longtime-alliy-united-kingdom-their-position-over-falkland-islands-and-not-argentina/yXQ3C5xd
(24) Good initiative, G.P.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Last guy who petitioned in England got some 250 signatures...
Let’s see if yours fares better.
Please keep us informed, will ya?
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-our-longtime-alliy-united-kingdom-their-position-over-falkland-islands-and-not-argentina/yXQ3C5xd
Think
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you just settle for “Les Goddams.”
After all, it was good enough for the French.
Poor old Think - not having a good week. And you a good socialist who supports the people ! Remind me; how many generations does your family go back Think?? Oh yes - one!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0MoreCrap - negotiate about what ?? We won! We beat the Spanish in 1771 .... and again in 1833. Argentina?? Never in the game old son. Nothing to talk about. Nothing to negotiate.
Hasta la vista babies :-)
(27) Lord Ton
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Juppppp……
First generation..... 104% pure, untainted Argentinean…..
And.....as a good socialist, I wholly support the English people rights…..... in England.
@24 I understood it was only 25,000 signatures you needed for their attention?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0(29) Boovis
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nope.......
It clearly says 100,000
Can't you read, mate?
What about signing it?
It's still only 3 signatures:-(
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-our-longtime-alliy-united-kingdom-their-position-over-falkland-islands-and-not-argentina/yXQ3C5xd
Does anyone know why the UN doesn't ask the 3 sides of the argument to take the case of sovereignty to the ICJ and sort it.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Cheers - Thats 5 on it.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0@31
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's been suggested before, Argentina would not do it, they know they'd lose.
(33) WestisBest
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Check your sources.....
England would not either...
27 Lord Ton
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Think. Can't read, can't tell the truth and can't count.....
“First generation..... 104% pure, untainted Argentinean…..”
104%????? 104%????
I know my maths is a little rusty but I thought that you could only EVER get 100% of anything ( unless you worked for ENRON ) or you were some kind of lying, theiving, cheating, scumbag, lowlife who is used to “cooking the books” for a living.
Oh.......hang on a minute..... You did say that you are “pure, untainted Argentinean” didn't you?
Ahhhhh, silly me, mystery solved then!!!
TWIMC
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0C'mon WASP's....
Only 99,995 to go....
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-our-longtime-alliy-united-kingdom-their-position-over-falkland-islands-and-not-argentina/yXQ3C5xd
1st generation! PMSL
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Surely a citizen from a foreign country would be disqualified from signing a petition for consideration by the American Congress. A good idea, but I think you have to be American to sign it. You listening Sussie, be a love and sign it for me, Ta XXXXXXX
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0The time for partying is over. We won, great.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0But the music is not finished.
Now they will be planning something.
The lying scumbags won't accept that they've been snookered & are/were amazed that we don't want to join their failed rogue state.
They don't want us but they do want our land.
And as we have seen, they will lie, cheat & invade to get it.
lf they succeeded, then South Georgia would be next & so on.
l think that they are going to try to invade again.
At the moment, l know that they don't have the capability, but that could very quickly change.
They could sell their soul to China for military equipment.
Let us not get complacent, let us be prepared.
“The price of freedom is eternal vigilance” some famous American said that. l don't recall his name, but he was/is correct.
l feel it in my bones, they are going to try it again.
only 6 has signed this petition
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0not very supportive is it,
still,
no doubt CFK would just ignore it anyway.
The petition needs a much wider audience. Get some of the national newspapers interested.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0very true Elaine..
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 035 toooldtodieyoung
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think must work for INDEC
by the way Think - Sweden's Foreign Minister Carl Bildt pledged to heed the result.
@ 20 Think, only one person has used the derogatory and racist term 'brownie', please don't tar us all with the same brush.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think,
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0I am seasonally brownish, but my partner is genetically much darker. We both have British passports though I am English and she is not.
She is significantly tougher than Isolde so, for your own sake, lay off this type of teasing.
... and I'm glad to see your Dover is a bit more circumspect.
I guess you found #18 through #22 somewhat like J & H ... what triggers the change, the sun going behind a series of dark clouds?
;-)
To all American WASP's that support the English Redcoats...
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please sign this petition....:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-our-longtime-alliy-united-kingdom-their-position-over-falkland-islands-and-not-argentina/yXQ3C5xd
Only 99,994 to go.......
Chuckle chuckle
@44 to be fair, pushing brown people under trains and letting brown kids starve is a national sport in Argentina. This is while your germanic überlord maximo gets fat on theft. In addition two of the most corrupt political houses in the world have come together to declare their hate for democracy.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think using the world brownie is the least of your problems.
Ignore think. he's trying to score Brownie points.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0To use another of his words, not a dago's by without him playing the race card.
If there were a referendum in Junin today , they wouldn't vote to remain part of Argentina .
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@47, I'm not Argentinean bud.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Neither are the Falkland Islanders and more to the point, have the right to chose not to be,
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0oh lookie - it the Thin & DoD 1-(wo)man show again. Talking to herself again to try to bolseter-up each others unstable opinions.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0How low can you go than haivng to create a sock-puppet account to talk to yourslef to prop-up your arguments because they are so facile and weak?
Pathetic.
Should we ask DoverOverDover what Legion function he is going to this weekend, or what ships he can see in his “Local” harbour - no, lets not bother, as the last time he offered this up as proof of him being a real person in Britain it turned out that that ship wasn't in the harbour and the Legion function never happened.
Oh my...
And this is backbone support of Mr Thinks every argument.
yeesh.. desperation is too mellow a word.
#25 Think I will do that if you keep me informed how it's going with Agrentina and their dream of stealing the Falklands.....fair enough?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0I bet you wish LA Casa Rosada had a link you can email, respond or even voice an opinion to your dictator, The Great Botox Wizard of Argentina.....aka Asslips Kirchner. While some use WMD'd (Weapons of Mass Destruction), Kirchnerite's have some of the most lethal WED's (Weapons of Economic Destruction). NO one come's close to Kirchner's arsenal. Unfortunately she only releases them on Argentina.
@34
Mar 13th, 2013 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aye, but not because they know they'd lose....
@51 Totally agree
Mar 13th, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh yes. Scrap Galloway and bring out Milne! Hit pyrite again, dude!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(Poppy, you will want to edit that petition for spelling if you still can. Also farm it to Glenn Reynolds on the right for an Instalanche, and the “Eustonian” Harry's Place on the left, while the latter it is British it attracts us contrarian Yanks who have no equivalent in the US blogosphere. That said. I have never had faith in these petitions. They cherry pick the ones they like.)
Now the truth is out.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/falklands-penguins-bide-their-time-2013031262469
@13
Mar 13th, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 030-60? You have been listening to KFC's propaganda.
e-petitions are good for the long term lazy-poor who want to gang together and vote for 'lower poorball season ticket prices', 'more money for sky movies' or 'letting me wear footy shirts in the pub' but other than that they are pretty useless. If you had a decent idea like making it illegal for MPs to get into power through lib dem style misrepresentation then no one would vote for it because it isn't about poor ball, sky tv or dinners consisting of chips and red-bull.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ Think (28)
Mar 13th, 2013 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Isn't the irony lost on you Think? You want the Falklands to be for the South Americans, when you father wasn't even born in South America. You believe you have moe rights over the Falklands as a 1 generation Argentine than someone like me...a 7 generation Islander whose ancestor arrived in the Falklands in the 1850s. You are a complete fool. Some one generation Argentines may even call you a turnip.
The best route is through our British Ambassador in Washington, Sir Peter Westmacott. He has already given the issue support and a voice. Lobbying from there will have more effect.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think FIG doing the rounds is a great idea. They are quite brilliant at putting their point across in a calm but unequivocal manner.
60. If Think's parents moved to Chubut, caused a ruckus by promoting communism then moved back to EU or maybe UK to escape the free one way flights offered by the Junta.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is he ever really Argentinian?
I have probably spent more time in Argentina than he has and I would never name myself as one.
) Let´s face it, over 500 years ago two of the world´s colonial powers Spain & England were seeking new horizons for their empires all over the world & one of them ended up with most of S.America & the other ended up with a few small islands off the coast in the Atlantic ocean.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As of 200 years ago, part of S.America evolved into the Argentina of today through brutal wars, massacre of the indigenous peoples & rape & pillage of the land whereas the islands developed into a peaceful fishing & sheep farming community (until the 1982 invasion of course)
Now, almost 200 years later the Spanish & their Argentine descendants have ruined their heritage through mismanagement, infighting & perverse nationalism to a point that the economy is in ruins & another crisis is looming. The Falklanders however have gradually improved their lifestyle thanks to tourism, fishing rights & foreign investment & whoa & behold are sitting on massive natural resources of their own
So anybody with an open mind can see that the Argies should have been very happy with their inheritance & not preoccupied with a couple of small islands that the other colonialists inherited. But after crisis upon crisis throughout it´s history (still can´t understand why?) the Argies are once again beating the nationalist drum & claiming sovereignty over the Falklands/Malvinas
It´s obvious to any intelligent person that owning the Falklands/Malvinas gives access to the thousands of miles of continental shelf under the ocean & also through proximity, future claims to large parts of the Antarctic …….. more rape & pillage I fear!!!
(45) GeoffWard2
Mar 13th, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 01) It’s what’s inside that counts……
Your inside is pinkish..... Mine is brownish.
2) Anybody is tougher than Isolde…. She’s a incurable squashy tease ;-)
3) Tell that though but unfair sweet Brazilian partner of yours to drop me a pair of Portuguese glosses if my evident “Holding the Mirror” use of the word “Brownie” upsets her…. (I certainly don’t want to share the doghouse with you)
4) Even an analphabet could easily differentiate Mr. McDod stylistic English writing from my Spanglish scribblings!
(60) M_of_FI
7 generation whose ancestor arrived in Malvinas in the 1850s, huhhhh?
Thanks for the info……
The due amount for your family's 160 years of squatting will be duly added to the final bill by the Argentinean AFIP…..
TWaspIMC
C'mon WASP's.... Only 99,988 to go....
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-our-longtime-alliy-united-kingdom-their-position-over-falkland-islands-and-not-argentina/yXQ3C5xd
Going by their behaviour, Buenos Aires- the regional government- isn't at all keen on being ruled from Buenos Aires- the Argentine national government- either.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bill returned marked, “Unpaid”
Mar 13th, 2013 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bloody hell, why does that sound so familiar!
We don't want to be ruled from Buenos Aires either. I'm in favor of seceding from Cristina's retarded rule, and forming a new country with people that actually have some semblance of critical thinking ability.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good luck with the welfare when there's no one to steal from.
Didn't Argentina try to evict the squatters in 1982? Didn't work out too well unless you count getting a form of democracy in your country.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think, Care to tell us what Arg law is for squatters and adverse possession?
You are as dumb as CFK throwing around legal terms you obviously have no idea what they mean.
Think with his nookie bear eyes now it all makes sense
Mar 13th, 2013 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21767141
TWaspIMC
Mar 13th, 2013 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0C'mon WASP's.... Only 99,988 to go....
petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-our-longtime-alliy-united-kingdom-their-position-over-falkland-islands-and-not-argentina/yXQ3C5xd
Sorry, but I do not recognise you as a proper international monitor for this vote.
What are your credentials? for instance, have you ever been a Sgt in the US Army?
If nothing else......the trolls true value is on the comedic level of entertainment.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spot on Captain #71 One wonders how so many can do so much for a case of free Malbec and a banana. Still the TVs are great at comedy, just look at their politicians and parliament. :-))) Perhaps they ought to take it on tour? Oh! I forgot Gollums recent visit to England, that was pretty good for a laugh...
Mar 13th, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long John
@64thinkedover
Mar 13th, 2013 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”1) It’s what’s inside that counts……
Your inside is pinkish..... Mine is brownish.“
Clearly, whatever is inside of you is definitely ”brownish“.
And you're full of it, too.
I will continue to use ”brownish” to describe you.
LOL!!!
TWIMC
Mar 13th, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0European Commission / Falkland Islands sovereignty referendum:
Q&A
http://ec.europa.eu/avservices/video/player.cfm?sitelang=en&ref=I076701
Chuckle chuckle©
'The State Department’s Falklands press briefing was a diplomatic disaster for the US'
Mar 13th, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100206687/the-state-departments-falklands-press-briefing-was-a-diplomatic-disaster-for-the-us/
'Falkland stand-off: Argentina's attention seeking stunt?'
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100206687/the-state-departments-falklands-press-briefing-was-a-diplomatic-disaster-for-the-us/
'SCMP’s Falklands-inspired poll sparks Hong Kong colonial debate'
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100206687/the-state-departments-falklands-press-briefing-was-a-diplomatic-disaster-for-the-us/
'EX-COMBATANTS DENOUNCE BRITISH CRIMES AND INHUMANE TREATMENT DURING THE GUE'
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100206687/the-state-departments-falklands-press-briefing-was-a-diplomatic-disaster-for-the-us/
@74;
Mar 13th, 2013 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Regarding the last link, the book 'Doctor to friend and foe' by Surgeon Cdr Rick Jolly, is a very interesting story/memoir.
Cdr Jolly has actually been decorated by Argentina for his efforts in the treatment/saving of lives of Argentinian soldiers during the 1982 conflict.
@76;
Mar 13th, 2013 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Regarding the last link, the book 'Little Women' by Louisa May Alcott, is a very interesting story/memoir.
What is this illogical notion that the UK needs support from any organization to protect their territory?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stupid Rgs can post away on the links saying there is no comment but what does it matter?
Rgs are an odd and very stupid people
@77:
Mar 13th, 2013 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Typo, should have read '@75' regarding the ''EX-COMBATANTS DENOUNCE BRITISH CRIMES AND INHUMANE TREATMENT DURING THE GUE'
Apologies for causing you confusion.
No sweat, lass.....
Mar 13th, 2013 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@80 Thinkedover
Mar 13th, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, “brownie” you are certainly as unsavoury as ever.
As well as being very “brownish”, you're full of bile as well.
A little pent up anger and frustration perhaps??
Just waiting to hear you criticising the UN when they ignore your pleas.
LOL LOL, frustrated much??
Your Argentine opinions mean nothing!!
@81;
Mar 13th, 2013 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Aye, what a fud.
(78) yankeeboy
Mar 13th, 2013 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Says....:
Rgs are an odd and very stupid people
I say...:
Still married to that bleached Argie woman, Fred?
Proves my point, odd and stupid people, impotent cowardly thugs.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see the Wicked Witch and her flying monkeys are a bit worried about Vale leaving. I think they will have quite a little mess on their hands if she steals a couple billion from Brazil.
Quite a little mess.
8.4/1
when will the peso hit 10? Hmm at this rate I guess late May or June.
@31 golfcronie (#)
Mar 13th, 2013 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:17 am
Because then they would have to deal with the outcome. Namely. Argentina carrying on regardless but the UN actually having to slap them down.
(84) Fred Bates
Mar 13th, 2013 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Fred.... fred..., relax
Remember Johnbbq?
http://www.frommers.com/community/forum.cfm/central-south-america/argentina/perception-of-patagonia-past-12-years
Regards from Florencio
Which one of thesee La Campora furkwits is that chap who thinks he drinks cheap watery-merlot (malbec) all day and has diseased argi meat on tap, but actually lives in a kevlar ball because his city is a gun-crime hell hole?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do forget which one is which.
Falkland islanders want to belong to Britain. Argentina must honour that
Mar 13th, 2013 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina was founded on self-determination, and in the spirit of that tradition they should respect the Falkland islanders' vote
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/13/falkland-islanders-belong-britain-argentina-honour?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
This what British concern http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21766971 while Arg scum talk trash in Red House
Mar 13th, 2013 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am curious, did Argentina forget 1816? What they said and what they did? What is the difference with the Falklands Islanders? Their referendum is their vote for independence or choice as you prefer. They don't want to be part of Argentina. That is all! I am glad the British are looking over them!!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stupid stupid people:
Mar 13th, 2013 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Domestic Trade Secretary Guillermo Moreno is currently examining whether to extend price controls set to expire on April 1, it was confirmed yesterday by the president of the Argentine-South East Asian Chamber of Commerce (Cedeapsa) Yolanda Durán. She said Moreno had stated the following about price controls: “Why stop using something that is functioning well? They should be extended three or four more months, and why not until the elections?”
...
“Everyone knows that the principal component of inflation is speculation promoted by irresponsible businesses,” said Calvete.
Even though through out history they have been proven innefective and horrible in the long run, every single time. This time they;ll work..
What a ridiculous collection of morons.
Interesting poll from the South China Morning Post....
Mar 13th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Would Hongkongers vote to return to a British overseas territory, given the option?
currently 93% yes - 7% No
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/poll/1189161/would-hongkongers-vote-return-british-overseas-territory-given-option
Has anyone noticed that the Argentines, each and everyone of them, have conflicting versions of their fairy tale claim to the sovereignty of the Falklands archipelago? My perception is that each takes his own limited knowledge of the real history of the Falkland Islands and builds his personal version to satisfy his egotistical arrogance. Arrogance, by the way, seems to be a trait of the Argentine, male and female alike!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Surprise surprise......even Brazilan companies are pulling out of Argentina, their brothers of Mercosur:
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/126283/de-vido-warns-declaring-vale-in-‘breach-of-contract’
Argentina is seen for what they have become under the kirchner's.
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/126283/de-vido-warns-declaring-vale-in-‘breach-of-contract’
HABEMUS TROLL
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Holy white smoke!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We do, indeed....
@95
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let the pontification begin. Sigh.
@3 Wait up, sonny, I want to piss on you until you drown.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@9 Of course there are “different” rules for white people. Isn't that why you German, Italian and Spanish individuals fled Europe to “conquer” the indigenous people of South America? Isn't that why you ex-pat Europeans are committed to European immigration? To consolidate your subjugation and theft?
@12 Not the 1930s. The 1830s.
@13 The argie way. The higher you fly, the more people you can throw out before the petrol runs out. One of the “cabin crew” were you?
@14 “Decolonisation hearing”? By whom? A bunch of argie lackeys with no juridiction. Listen up, Falklanders, the UN has no authority and no right to tell you what to do, how to do it or when to do it. Or are they going to offer you “membership”? Like they are thinking of giving “membership” to a bunch of terrorists.
@18 I'm about to have a shit. Look up and open your mouth.
@28 So! A mutant. No doubt a result of that 100% argie nuclear defence programme beloved of P-H.
@36 Irrelevant. You need to try the BRITISH government. Yanks are superfluous.
@64 “Mine is brownish.” I want to check. I have a butcher's cleaver.
TWIMC
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Recapitulating……
The United States of America official comment on the English ”Referendum” on them Islands...:
http://video.state.gov/en/video/2221454686001
The United States of Europe official comment on the English ”Referendum” on them Islands...:
http://video.state.gov/en/video/2221454686001
What a great Public Relations Victory for the English Kelpers!
I hope you enjoyed your party….
Time for the hang-over…
Chuckle ouch©
93 Gordo1
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A good point, I read some ridiculous articles and comments on Argentinean websites about why the Falklands should belong to Argentina. They are a strange bunch.
Many people from other South American nations dislike Argentine's, I personally think they have a collective attitude problem, partly from losing the Falklands war and the humiliation that starting a war then losing it brings.
But to understand why Argentina is so hated, read the article below and more importantly read the other comments on page 5, it explains a lot...
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/299154/what-s-wrong-argentina-matthew-shaffer?pg=1
We have a new pope - we'll get to discover the new brand of bigotry we'll be forced to endure listening to any second now.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@101
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You will know shortly. The vacation of the anti-argie haters in this forum is seconds from being over!
¿Quo nomine vis vocari?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder what odds I'd get at the bookies if I bet that it's some male odd duffer with a silly hat?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 01st generation -PMSL.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What's the definition of failure? Emigrating to Argentina to live a better life. Wow talk about a life of regrets. So glad my ancestors chose wisely.
Just as the Falkland Islanders have. I think that's where the bitterness stems from...
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Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0¿Leon?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@107
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Consolation prize, you can have the Vatican.
An Argentine!! - the Papacy will be bankrupt by Christmas.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LMAO. it's the Argentin.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THANK YOU MY CHILDREN ! ! !
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THANK YOU MY CHILDREN ! ! !
He actually looks rather jolly for a pope.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will do the good work of my predecessors Nostrolldamus 1 through 12.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who supervised this election? Were there observers? Who were they? Where was the UN? I think we should be told.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0BREAKING NEWS: Argentina lays claim to Vatican City on the basis “there is a temporary Argentine population.”
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another possible arbitrator ruled out.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0he only put his name forward because he know's he'll never have to go there again except for a two day visit.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”“BREAKING NEWS: Argentina lays claim to Vatican City on the basis “there is a temporary Argentine population.””“”
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0lolol
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“Another possible arbitrator ruled out.”
That comment proves beyond ANY doubt that you are not British.
Nice try Argentina, the bad news is that they are overwhelmingly protestant!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another expat Argie , far preferable to a villa
@113 Citizen John
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Usurper! Your coup has failed and the members of your junta are being arrested. Another failed Argentine junta.
Long live the rightful heir to the Troll Crown. Nostrolldamus the 13th.
How nice, another impostor of the house of TTT.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@112:
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Probably cause he's just had his balls groped, by some other old kiddie fiddler, whilst held aloft in the special chair.
Blessed relief, I thank thee oh lord for the 24 hour gap in Arg rhetoric re the islands.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile, back in BA...
TIMERMAN!!!! GET IN HERE NOW!!!!
What? where? Who? Tuesday! How high?
Get yourself to Rome, I want a written declaration re the catholic church's support for Malvinas sovereignty in 24 hours.
Certainly your majesty, I'll call a taxi to Rome straightaway.
ITALY YOU DIMWITTED MORON!
Ok, a taxi to Italy then.
SHINE A BLOODY LIGHT!!!!
TTT ... All eyes on Arg now, has the country got it's Sunday best on?
@123
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually the breaking news around the world is that CFK's last tweet was about the new road work in Entre Rios.
It is well know CFK and this guy are at war with each other.
“”“ Another failed Argentine junta. ”“”“””
Mar 13th, 2013 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0there is not now, nor have ever been, Argentine Juntas.
They simply write them out of their history....
its more convenient that way.
@121 Citizen John
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hard to be an imposter when you have the name. As the first non Argentine Troll King, you will notice a more inclusive and less..... brainwashed view of the world.
The line of Nostrolldamus continues on unbroken.
“”“It is well know CFK and this guy are at war with each other.”“””
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I kinda missed that... you're saying that the new Pope and CFK arent the bestest of friends?
was it a secret ballot? Not very transparent was it?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another thing of quiet note: ever noticed how when something “Important” happens all of the trolls disappear for a while? then they all come back around the same time later on?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(They have to wait for the update on what they are supposed to say i think!) haha!
Seems we have a miracle,
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0CFK has her very own victory.
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@129
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My child, there will be plenty of times when I will crush you. It is time for dinner now, my child.
@131 Citizen John
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes my son, your mommy is calling. Run along now and leaving the trolling to adults.
Remember not to go to bed with your stockings on my son John.
Yankeeboy
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 09.4/1 in Punta yesterday. :o)
EVERYBODY
Oh! You couldn't wish for a better result than an Argie as the new Popsicle / The Anti-Christ or in his case The Anti-Cristina!
And, they want HIM to sort out the scandals. Ha, ha, ha, laughed MFAO!!!
AND, the embarrassment when TMBOA turns up at the Vatican in widows weeds: they will all be running away thinking it's Satan’s No1 WHORE come to shag them all. Mind you, that may not be that far from the truth.
Imagine the scene: the new Pope about to be anointed when TMBOA starts screaming 'Las Malvinas son argentinas' at the top of her voice.
Good job there is no god that would really piss him off.
I see they picked another old duffer. 76? How long before this one retires?
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure the Argentines will try to make something of it in LatAm where over 40% of the world's catholics live. (Bums on seats) In many ways it makes sense as they have the largest following of the church and they are inclined to forgive some pretty unforgivable acts. There are going to be some damning revelations over the next year.
@134
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You know I don't give a darn about the whole issue, as people may have noticed (I have used it for days as a parody), but how does the anger and jealousy splash on in your words Elaine. I can tell you had to edit this one at least four times and bite your tongue.
That makes it worth it. hahahahaha
My poor child. I will troll for you.
Biggest celebrations in BA since 2nd April. 1982. Remember that one, the one none of them supported? Yep, that one!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This Pope doesn't like the “Socialist” Dictators ruining SA.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We live in the most unequal part of the world, which has grown the most yet reduced misery the least. The unjust distribution of goods persists, creating a situation of social sin that cries out to Heaven and limits the possibilities of a fuller life for so many of our brothers.”
He calls them as he sees them
@130 not quite, CFK and Bergoglio (or as he's now called, Francesco I) aren't very friendly, to say the least.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The new Pope is a Champion of the poor, that fits then, plenty in South America.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently his first stop is to visit the poor in the FALKLANDS, don't think he will find any there.
@137
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0USA is the most unequal nation on Earth. People are starving in that nation, my child. Repent and I will troll for you.
40%! That explains why the whole place is so backward then. Went around Rome recently, the Vatican etc was all sickening. Gold leaf everywhere it looked like a tatty fairground with grafitti. Pope came out for a blessing which cut the queue to the burger van, so we dived in.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0English cathedrals are much nicer, plain, simple, peaceful and elegant. Good demonstration of why Latin culture is so alien and abhorent to Brita. Ugh..
140. Only filthy communists think that.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That myth has been overwhelmingly discredited.
I don't know how you can be on a news site everyday and still be so uninformed,
Try this one but there are 100s out there to read:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444100404577643691927468370.html
@141
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My child, you have no culture. Your culture was founded by the Romans. You would still be squatting on a ditch for number #2 and hunting mammoth if they had not brought civilization to you. Notice that when they left in 410AD or whenever, you went from having magnificent road system, mail on time, baths, running water, and goods from all over the world... within 10 years of them leaving, you were back to the stone age.
@135? I think you are playing the victim. There is nothing bitter or jealous about my post. I am not catholic but it does make sense to have a Latin American Pope when 40% of the world's catholics live there. Religion is all about numbers; bums on seats.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What doesn't make sense is another old bloke when the last one couldn't manage the pressure given the revelations that are coming.
@141 Yes, as I travel around LatAm the devotion to the catholic church is exponential to the poverty and under-education. They need faith because without it their lives would be unfathomable.
Nestor and the new Pope had a terrible relationship with Nestor calling Bergoglio the voice of the opposition, and CFK only has a marginally better relationship with him. Apparently Bergoglio had the temerity to question the K's method of governing Argentina. The old rogue.
Then they left Rome and moved to Constantinople and and their magnificent road systems, sports arenas, baths, running water, mail services and goods from all over the world came to an end.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#143 ...and so many parts of Argentina, the villas, like lugano, still don't have those things 1500 years later. Shows an astonishing level of incompetence. By the way, Mammoths disappeared thousands of years ago.... still you were educated in the Rg (so called) education system so I wouldn't expect you to know that.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Villas are 40% foreign, and recent immigrants.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will troll for you my child.
Ah, you mean Christinas Voters!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My children, “Francis” is a man that is skeptical of capitalism as the arbiter of good and bad in the world (bad news for you)
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0but he is not against the pursuit of profit for good (still bad news for you)
He is against militant authoritarian socialism. (good news for you)
He is against gay marriage (bad news for yankeeboy, reality check, etc)
He is very friendly to Jews and muslims (bad news for Jews and muslims)
And he hates the Kirchners (Cameron does not know whether to declare national holiday or day of mourning over new pope)
I know, I was there, I know how the Indians are treated. What a dump. And you call us colonialists.....
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These trolls are like children with the way they change names. No wonder SOuth AMerica is a cesspool.......immaturity.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He is Peter! he loves the Kirchners, he loves you too, but he is also against gay adoption, that's you stuffed.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@151
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you had contracted West Nile or North American flesh-eating hospital virus syndrome, my child. I am glad you are still managing to survive in that sordid heap of germs called North America. I will now troll for you my child.
As a filthy proddy, it astounds me how catholic priests are so anti-gays and yet so pro-doing gay things. They dislike the people but they love the behaviour.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Curious indeed that in his introductory address he stated that catholicism presides 'over' all the world's churches, which is curious because most reformed churches don't have a pope and don't have the pantheon of demi-gods that consist mainly of dead popes granted saint-hood and a guy who killed dragon.
He doesn't seem a bad chap though, looks quite friendly.
@147 so poverty and crime is all down to the foreigners? Wow, I do love original thinking!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@154
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I do not disagree my child. Convert to the house of TTT. I will troll for you my child.
Interesting to see so many Anglicans trying to deflect from this thread topic by commenting about our new Pope; Pancho I
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyhow......
Recapitulating II
The UNITED NATIONS official comment on the English ”Referendum” on them Islands...:
http://www.un.org/sg/offthecuff/index.asp?nid=2738
The UNITED STATES OF EUROPE official comment on the English ”Referendum” on them Islands...:
http://www.un.org/sg/offthecuff/index.asp?nid=2738
The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA official comment on the English ”Referendum” on them Islands...:
http://www.un.org/sg/offthecuff/index.asp?nid=2738
Maybe you English Kelpers should try your luck with the UNITED MANCHESTER....
Chuckle chuckle©
Fucking Obama, playing politics and ass kissing already.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think it's funny the rest of the world (scanning the internet) is more excited about today, than argentines almost.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Let me troll, my children.
@154 he looks loke Jim Bowen..super, smashing, great
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So now he's YOUR pope, think the other rock crushers might disagree with you.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously, - This next in a long line of human crap/sexual diviant 'Pope(s)' regardless of wher he comes from.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He will not dare go near the Falklands. He will be too scared.
The Catholic church today is a very wealthy institution indeed.
But essentialy Parasitic on a massive scale.
All non Catholic religions will condemn the Holy Roman church if that RGtwat opens his mouth about the Falklands, - And the cock sucker knows it.
(yes, cock sucker)
well CFK... lets walk down the path of love as instructed by the new Pope
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure they will ignore the wishes of “THEIR” pope.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And there I was thinking Toby couldn't get any more nutty...
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is in the drinking water down there?
@157:
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remind me, are you the butt-fuck fuck from chutbut?
Seriously ? did you say you came from somewhere called chut-butt?
he's 75 now so the Queen will still be on the throne when he's gone, interesting article on channel 4 news about him, quote “one of five children of Italian immigrants”, argh ha so he's implanted then
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor sods, escaped from Mussolini and wound up with Peron.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hey! bellend that calls yourself 'Think' answer my question. Now.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do you come from chut butt?
@157 Sr Think,
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting to see so many Anglicans deflecting from this thread topic by commenting about your new Pope; Frank the First.
@168
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Could be worse, could have died at Suez.
@101 Idlehands
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We have a new pope - we'll get to discover the new brand of bigotry we'll be forced to endure listening to any second now.”
You are right, Idlehands - no sooner than you said that , TTT troll sprung up.
TTT is acting very odd (again) - wine, do you think?
He seems to think he is humorous, but its as cringeworthy as listening to a drunkard sing to himself.
As long as he gets attention, he'll hang around, I suppose.
Hoping he'll pass out soon.
(170) Mr McDod
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Our” new Pope..... Mr. McDod.
“Our” as in yours and ours...
One Universal Kirk ;-)
@170:
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back on Topic then. Lets here what you want to say.
So, as you say - your alter ego Think is a Catholic then I see.
So what religion do you follow 'doverthehill'?
'Pope Francis’s election may cause controversy in Britain over comments he made at a Mass last year for Argentine veterans of the Falklands War to mark 30th anniversary of the 1982 conflict.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He reportedly said at the time: “We come to pray for those who have fallen, sons of the country who went out to defend their mother country, to reclaim that which is theirs and was usurped from them.”
Addressing relatives of fallen veterans before a visit to the Argentine military cemetery in Darwin in the Falklands in 2009, he said: “Go and kiss this land which is ours, and seems to us far away.”
He said they would not go alone, adding: “There are angels who will accompany you, who are sons, husbands and fathers of yours, who fell there, in an almost religious movement, of kissing with their blood the native soil.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9928688/From-Father-Jorge-to-Pope-Francis-I-the-monk-like-priest-who-now-leads-1.2bn-Catholics.html
Some guy they interviewed on the BBC was saying “he's going to be okay dealing with vatican scandals and corruption, because he's from Argentina.”
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Urm...
One universal Kirk, as in Pancho 1. Nice bit of back peddaling though.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0LMFAO! - This Cnut -better come accross with the goods now - on the world stage - He's the Taig's main man!!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Goan'yersel Franco ya cock. how was it tae get yer balls felt by somebody older than 12?
“”“Interesting to see so many Anglicans deflecting from this thread topic by commenting about your new Pope; Frank the First.”“”
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0finally remembered Britian is mostly Anglican you pathetic fake?
frak me, they really need to improve the education system where you are really from - either that or employ people with some basic knowledge.
What sort of clueless twit, other than a thoroughly stupid foreigner pretneidng to be British, twould ever think that the leader of papists would ever be considered as an arbitrator in the Falklands?
fake, idiot, moron, go back to huggies with Think - oh, and lookie, you both reappeared around the same item again... well colour me surprised. not.
At least make a effort to hide your sock-puppetry.
LMFAO! - This Cnut -better come accross with the goods now - on the world stage - He's the Taig's main man!!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Goan'yersel Franco ya cock. how was it tae get yer balls felt by somebody older than 12?
Oh dear oh dear Crissy:
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2013/03/20133132025195593.html
“”“”Bergoglio is known for his efforts to repair the reputation of a church that lost many followers by failing to openly challenge Argentina's murderous 1976-1983 dictatorship.
He also worked to recover the church's traditional political influence in society.
But his influence seemed to stop at the presidential palace door after Nestor Kirchner and then his wife, Cristina Fernandez, took over the Argentina's government.
His outspoken criticism could not prevent Argentina from becoming the Latin American country to legalise gay marriage, or stop Fernandez from promoting free contraception and artificial insemination.
His church had no say when the Argentine Supreme Court expanded access to legal abortions in rape cases, and when Bergoglio argued that gay adoptions discriminate against children, Fernandez compared his tone to “medieval times and the Inquisition”.“”“”
What he can say as Pope will be somewhat different to his role as a Cardinal in Argentina. He has been outspoken in his criticism of the K's in power but I doubt he will single CFK out in his role as Pope.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He does seem to be modest and concerned with the poor and dispossessed, and there are considerable numbers in Latam. If he can use his influence to combat that he will be using his power to the good.
First Pope from a developing country. I think that is positive.
MInd you, reading what CFK said about his attitude I find myself agreeing with her... and her description.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0frak me.
I feel sullied.
Use yer heeds. Just another one of their number they pushed in to the pope mobile.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Disgusting anti-human bullshit wagon the catholic church.
FFS educate yourselves people.
In the light of the massive YES vote by Islanders
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These questions now need to be asked.
Why is there so much dialogue on decolonization about a people who by choice have decided to live in a remote place and be protected by another Country?.
Why is it so necessary to remove a colony status in the world place?.
Why in the case of the Falkland Islands should we not be allowed to live as we choose under the protection that we choose?.
Why would it be right for Argentina to own the Falkland Islands as apposed to Great Britain owning them?.
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Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Because you English are squatting 8,000 miles away from home.......
England abandoned catholic mumbo jumbo in 1534 . All this new pope means is the the claptrap carries on and on. England continues to grow up and progress as more and more people abandon religious superstition and take responsibility for their own beliefs and morals. Shows clearly the wide cultural gap between the Brits and Argies. He is a 'Malvinas' supporter and junta suplicant too which means he is no friend of UK and the Falklands. Bet his first world tour is to SA.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So are the Argentines squatting on land they stole from the indigenous people THink. How can you be so deluded to think we are implanted. You know it is a lie but is the only thing you want to talk about answer my questions or shut the hell up
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When the Italian speaking son of Italian parents gets a job in italy it should not have a great deal to do with Argentina. Which I assume our Argentine posters will be happy about, since Pope Francis is now an absolute monarch, and we know how much they dislike any monarchy.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great news from Europe (EU) on the referendum. In their opinion the status of the Falklands is an internal affair amongst the British. Nothing to do with Argentina then...
ec.europa.eu/avservices/video/player.cfm?sitelang=en&ref=I076701
@187 Chile is 0 miles from you, and that's not yours either.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@185 Hi Sussie, classy as ever. you can get cream for those Emma's you know; make you a whole lot less cranky.
@187
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Heckuva job you're doing, Brownie. Shame nobody's rising to it.
TWIMC
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0C'mon WASP's....
Only 99,959 to go....
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-our-longtime-alliy-united-kingdom-their-position-over-falkland-islands-and-not-argentina/yXQ3C5xd
“Because you English are squatting 8,000 miles away from home.......”
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remind me how far is Spain from Argentina?
oh... yeah, I forgot. that doesnt count does it?
“only” the British colonise places... Spain, Portugal, Germany, italy - they never colonised places.
Nor, for that matter, did Argentina.
Why, they woke up one day and just found that Patagnoia had joined their wonderful nation all by its own volition!
Gosh! How lucky is Argentina eh?!
I'd ask a Patagonia for their opinion but the Argentines wiped them off the face of the planet.
(I bet they regret that spontaneous outbreak of self-determination to join Argentina now eh?!)
In 1850, the Arana-Southern Treaty otherwise known as the Convention of Settlement was signed between Britain and Argentina. The Convention was referred to as a “peace treaty” many times by both sides. The Convention of Settlement ended Argentina’s protests over the Falklands. After the Message to Congress in December 1849, the Falklands were not mentioned again in the Messages to Congress for 91 years until 1941 . Funny how they never mentioned the islands for 91 years and only when they thought their Nazi friends would win ww2..... Hypocrites, liars and thieves...never ever to be trusted!!
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Think ,Have you not congratualted the new ITALIAN Pope? Yes ITALIAN both parents ITALIAN it as been confirmed European Immagrint SQUATTING in Argentina but I believe The Botox Queen is happy to applaud thgis one,it seems there is NOTHING Argentine about so called ARGENTINIANS
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have it on good authority that they have changed all the locks and the codes on the vaults in the Vatican and placed 50 Swiss guards in front of each one to deter the new pope from pinching all the loot in them. The Commander of the Swiss Guards was overheard saying “Oh my God” what have the daft fuckers gone and done now we could cope with the pedophilia with the last one this one is even worse, let this one loose and we will be bankrupt in just under a week.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually this pope sounds like a decent chap... no doubt he will now be revealed as a long-term child molester... but in the meantime at least he has had the courage of his convictions.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems unlikely that he will be allowed to move out into a spartan abode near his current job, rather than luxuriating in fantastically wealthy trappings of papacy as is the norm with these self-agrandising religious structures created only to serve their own greeds...
oh, did i say that out loud?
I digress.
has any of the usual Argentine Gov-cronies rolled out the Chagos argument again yet?
Or have they reached consensus to give up on that approach also?
Think thanks for updating us all. Nice to know you now have something to do. BTW....do you have the Falklands yet? Didn't think so. While that make be an exercise in futility, it is non the less an exercise in political freedom, something that eludes you living in argentina. My president may be an asshole socialist, but my country is a democracy, again something that eludes you. Because of the democracy, he will be a bad memory in 3 years. In that time asslips will have stolen your judiciary, changed the constitution with a new roll of toilet paper and be on her third term as a dictator.
Mar 13th, 2013 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Think, Further news for you The New ITALIAN pope was educated in, wait for it........... GERMANY dam this guy is quite a mongrel
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ My president may be an asshole socialist, ”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0No, he's just an fence sitter without any bollocks who is too frightened of his PR image suffering to actually make a decision.
And he doesnt understand the word “ally”.
and, like most Americans, has selective memory about things like self-determination, human rights, sovereign integrity and so forth.. all because nobody else has as big a shittystick as the USA currently does.
Luckily the Chinese now own most of Americas and can implode the entire nation by withholding the supply of plastic for fizzy drinks - resulting in a total meltdown of the American nation as millions of obese people collapse from lack of sugar intake.
(or they just say the Chinese equivalent of “AH fuck it, we're calling in your debts!”
Sure, it would bankrupt China also, but then its China, and reverting to 50+ years behind another bamboo curtain whilst reducing their population a bit wont faze them in the slightest - they think long-term u see?)
Good old USA! Supporting freedom wherever it complies with their current definition and can improve their arms industry sales!
Gee I'm glad they are on our side...
oh...
damn...
It seems the new pope is no friend of the Kirchners, past and present. They have crossed swords on a number of occasions. He seems to have greater empathy for the common man rather than the wealthy despots.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0This may yet turn out to be an excellent choice.
He will be neutral now it goes with the job
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0“”“He seems to have greater empathy for the common man rather than the wealthy despots.”“”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0as he climbs into his gold-encrusted bed, slipping out of his sil jim-jams, after sipping $500 coco from his gold-rimmed fine porcelain cup of...
yeah, good old Papacy, right down there with “the common man”... no ostentation whatsoever, real “down to earth, with you in the muck” types... gotta luv 'em all.
Still waiting for you THINK to come back with answers to my questions are you scared what you might find out or are you just plain dodging the issue as is your favoured choice. The more likely reason is that your true history of the islands shows we are actually not part of or ever was part of Argentina.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0The lack of an answer from you means you accept my argument because that is usually what happens when one sustains from taking part.
@kelperabout, you can not expect brainwashed people to answer any of your straight forward questions mind you like most Argentines that grace this forum none of them live in Argentina there familys fled to Europe some years back.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think aint paid to answer stuff... shes paid to avoid answering stuff.. making up sock-puppets and being a generally naive and clueless intellectual wannabe.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0So dont wait for an answer. ;-)
You're one angry troll anbar....you seem to hate anything not.....you or your way.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0While some here still keep paying attention to a far far away islands, which they will never visit (they don't have that money) and that are close to Argentina (the real owner) , 99 % of the brits cannot afford heating gas to stay warm. More Austerity for you chumps, keep barking about those far far away islands, while you're being robbed (Austerity is transfer wealth from the majority to the minority) and slowly killed in front of your eyes.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgPBAhCPphA&feature=player_embedded
@Fido Dido, So your not one of the 25% which is a quarter of the population of Argentina that survives on $7 per day???
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0“”You're one angry troll anbar....you seem to hate anything not.....you or your way.“”“
Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0And you just fulfilled Think's certificate of truth: proving that your only answer to people who disagree with you is to call them a troll.
Would you like to elucidate on what I was ”trolling“ over, or are we just left to guess as to what you took personal exception to?
That the USA is totally untrustworthy, hypocritical and immoral?
That Think never answers a question?
Or something else altogether?
That there are no obese people in the USA perhaps?
That the papacy isnt a legacy of corrupt self-interest and wealth hoarding?
Spell it out, lets hear your words of wisdom instead of the singular resort of the much-over-used and little though-out ”troll” adjective.
As I said you're an angry little man no better than them.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0@211 Isolde words,,,,,,
Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0jejeje
I have no issues with people that disagree with me, in fact I embrace different though. What I do take exception to is people that tear and insult everything. You hate Argentines so much you even felt the need to insult the Pope. I bet you've never even been to South America. You don't have political differences, you have plain and simple hatred of everything that is not you, like you or British, but I can see you hating Brits as well that don't hold you views.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone notice how Mercopress has totally stopped in its tracks with information about Argentina?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are in mounring tonight. I will troll for you my children.
I don't hate anyone! Not even Sussie at 212 or Nostrils at 214. Both vainly trying to gain traction and failing miserably.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@215
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0My child, Thou shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
I will now troll for you my child.
157 Think
Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks for posting about the non support this English ”Referendum” got around the globe.
http://video.state.gov/en/video/2221454686001
TWIMC
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Our five Argentinean hating, resident Yanks seem to be having troubles mustering support for their E-petition in favour of England...
They have collected 48 signatures until now……
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/support-our-longtime-alliy-united-kingdom-their-position-over-falkland-islands-and-not-argentina/yXQ3C5xd
48............. My old German Boxer champ got trice as many Facebook friends than that….
Chuckle chuckle©
218. So what, you will still never get your grubby dirty paws on the “FALKLAND ISLANDS” no regardless of how many sign or do not sign the petition.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@219:
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well said. They never shall lay their putrid paws upon the Islands.
You know it, i know it, the US knows it too. Look at what they are actually saying, read between the lines.
@217
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Grow up, pussywinkles. When somebody washes their hands, sits on the fence, expresses neutrality, or otherwise recommends a peaceful solution, it doesn't translate into support for Argentina. It's a vote in favour of the status quo that costs nobody anything.
The only course that might advance your cause would be an intelligent response along the lines “Argentina takes note of the views expressed by the islanders and would seek to open direct discussions on a number of issues of common interest with a view to demonstrating our bona fides”. There's an approach mature and adult that might actually gain you real support in the world. But to nobody's surprise, you've elected to go for the comic histrionic posturing instead. Good luck with that.
It doesn't take a genius Think to realise that nobody would want to be ruled by Argentina after the disgusting way CFK's government have behaved towards the people of the Falkland's Island's. Any Argentine with integrity, dignity and who has a strong sense of morality must be disgusted by Argentina's bullying, aggressiveness and lies about the people of the Falkland Island's.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0So who would vote to be ruled by such a nation? And the 3 that said no you should remember haven't voted for Argentina but voted against British rule.
Argentina is the schoolboy coward who picks on the small kids and then runs away when the big kid turns up (Britain) and when he then gets a taste of his own medicine acts the victim.
Told you once before, we do not recognise your credentials to act as an International monitor for this vote, okay you were not a sgt in the US army!
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0How about a conscript in the Argentine army then? that definately disqualifies you.
I would however accept your Pope as an accredited monitor, now that he is a 1st generation citizen of the Vatican State.
Turnip at (223)
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Definately:
Idiot-speak for “definitely”. One of the most common moronic misspellings found on the internet.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=definately
Still do not recognise your creedentials as an obseerver for this poll, Sgt Think.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0May the blessings of “YOUR” pope be upon you and your football teems.
How did all these Catholics get to South America? Surely thy can't have been implanted?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@224 Think,
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0You sound desperate to make conversation, any conversation, old turnip.
Don't take it too hard, you knew how we would vote.
l'm sure that there is some other “worthy cause” that you can get your teeth into.
What about saving the Amazon?
Now that should keep you occupied for many years, alte.
Peace.
@222 It's a possibility that any of the three voted for a discussion on the possibility of revising the 2008 constitution to strengthen the control of the Islanders. Or they could want to be really British and become an integral part of the UK or even England. They are, though, quite unlikely to tell anyone who they are let alone why they did it unless they are planning on heading back to the UK to spend their declining years under the care of the NHS.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0(227) Chère Isolde
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm a “*”Think Globally, Act Locally“*” type of guy.....
And as the Malvinas are less than 193 miles from the rest of Argentina.....
I Act Locally
http://www.distancefromto.net/distance-from/Argentina/to/Fal...
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has a poverty stricken population, huge land area and appallingly managed vast resources they are technologically incapable of utilizing. What wealth there is is systematically plundered by its psychotic über nationalist government of corrupt inadequates. What's that government's suggested solution? Expand its territory and subjugate a peaceful people living on islands hundreds of miles across the sea.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0“”“As I said you're an angry little man no better than them.”“”
Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0oh well explained... very cogent, informative and persuasive.
And you wonder why Think thinks we're all Turnips?
Frak me but why are so Many Brits incapable of dealing with people who they cant instantly pigeon-hole into 2 or 3 little boxes... utterly incapable of accepting or even dealing with anybody who doesnt fulfil a strict stereotype...
how pathetic.
I will not explain to idiots. For some reason you think you are entitled to an explanation of my reasoning or statements? Some people are worth the time and effort of an explanation, you are worth neither.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0(232) Anbar
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say...:
“Frak me but why are so Many Brits incapable of dealing with people who they cant instantly pigeon-hole into 2 or 3 little boxes... utterly incapable of accepting or even dealing with anybody who doesnt fulfil a strict stereotype...”
I say...:
incapable of accepting or even dealing with the fact that two evidently different posters like Mr. McDod and myself are NOT the same person, you mean?
@232 Big immigration problem in Argentina is there? No you all want to get out, many even want to go to the British Falkland Islands.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@230 If you change the name to “malvinas” it's still the same distance :))
Seriously though, the distance argument is absolutely irrelevant in international law, and even more irrelevant using common sense. The only other recourse of the malvinista is historical, and their argument on that score is just absurd. Of course we know that, even they know that, but law, sense and common decency seem to mean nothing if you’re indoctrinated from childhood and an ultra-nationalist with an inferiority complex.
193 miles.....
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Comment removed by the editor.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0The only thing I see you acting THINK is a prat who can see no further than your nose. Running blind all of the time. Get a real life as Islanders have one so for a non existant people we are doing prety good I say. Seem to be causing a lot of debate.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think (#229)
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0'I'm a 'Think Globally, Act Locally' type of guy.....
and as the Malvinas are less than 193 miles from the rest of Argentina.....I Act Locally.'
Hi, Think.
I know you write a lot of bon mots, but 'acting' ... .
What have you actually DONE?
I shop locally ;-)
Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@240 Think,
Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These malvinas that you speak about, are they in the Pacific Ocean?
Or perhaps some isles in a lake up in the Andes?
Wouldn't know myself.
l do know that OUR(that is, NOT YOURS)lslands are to the eastwards of a foreign country called Argentina.
Hope this helps.
Just 193 miles northeast....
Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think #236, #242
Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Just 193 miles northeast.... (of Argentina)'
Cuba is 80 miles off the USA and Mexico, but ...
The UK is 21 miles off France, but ...
Argentina is RIGHT NEXT TO BRASIL, but ...
suggest stop using the old canard
Malvinas Isles
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just 193 miles northeast, inside Argentina 200 miles zone.
Invaded in 1833 by the English, 7,639 miles north-northeast.
What paperwork does Argentina have from Spain that the Islands was inherited?
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@244
Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gosh. And how far is Spain?
Malvinas Isles
Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just 193 miles northeast, inside Argentina 200 miles zone.
Invaded in 1833 by the English, 7,639 miles north-northeast.
Still occupied by the English as to the 14. of march 2013 /14:30 hrs
THE MALVINAS AREN'T NEATHER CRISTINIST NOR KIRCHNERIST, THEY ARE ARGENTINE.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These were the words by president cristina fernandez de kirchner, in answer to a hypocrite headline, published in clarin, signalizing the message that the islanders wanted to give to the president.
Beyond all this propagandist show, and beyond the stupid argument of the implanted population over the malvinas islands, which is used by some of our politcians, gavin short, all the rest of the members of the legislative assembly from the islands, the u. k., arg., and all the rest of the world know perfectly that this so called referendum, doesn't change absolutly anything in relation to the legal situation of this conflict.
As ambassador castro said, the referendum is irrelevant.
In fact, it wasn't even supervised by the united nations. Beside, you don't need to believe what i say, just search in this website, what was expressed by the president from the decolonization committe, when he said that self determination is not applicable for the popuation from the islands. If many of you prefer invaliding what he said, because his words don't coincid with what you want to hear, sorry, but your mental mediocrity doens't change the legal situation of the conflict either.
On the other hand, it's necesary to remind gavin short that none province in this country is ruled by the government in buenos aires, that's actually a very ignorant and mediocre concept.
All the provinces have autonomy, their own constitution, their own fiscal structure, their own court, etc etc, c. f k. doesn't tell the governors what to do. The central govt. is engaged to build infrustructure works, in order to improve the life standard of the citizens around the country, beside, the central govt. must give the provinces, the federal co participation tax, and charges some important taxes to the citizens too.
If short believes in democracy, then i'm sure he will ask his so loved u. k. to respect the u. n. resolutions.
@248 broken axle
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another diatribe written in gibberish spouting 'facts' which are not facts at all.
WTF is the 'president from the decolonization committe'?
Of course your crap regions are ruled by TMBOA. Who fucks them up by sending argie arsewipes instead of USD to pay their bonds and wages for the poor unfortunate bastards who have to live in The Dark Country.
The only 'boss' worth having of a region is Macri who rules BsAs City. Even TMBOA can't fuck with him even though she would if he let her!
Just STFU from the whining and bleating and give us all a fucking rest, will you!
Peace!
Argentina
Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just 193 miles northwest, inside the falklands
200 miles zone.
I could not care if we were 1.93 miles of your coast or 1,930 miles fact is they are british . Always have been and always will be. Just a few periods inbetween when Spain and France tried to occupy them elegally. Then ever since a ranting Argentina who had nothing to do at all with any former history has invented an ideal they were given to them by the Spanish.
Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think you are so far up your own backside that you have lost reality with anyone around you.
I sugest you go back to re-hab though personally i think your past any kind of help now. What are you going to do when 60% becomes 70% or 80% of Argentines who support our rights. Your gonna feel rather alone. When that happens you will begin to see how those less fortunate than you suffer. If as has been said you are indeed living abroad I sugest you should be kicked out of your home because in all fairness that in your eyes is squatting or bieng implanted you moron.
http://www.gertzresslerhigh.org/ourpages/auto/2009/1/28/37160780/Argentina.pdf
Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting read on our RG friends love for genocide
@247
Mar 15th, 2013 - 08:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed Think has raised an important issue. We should not be complacent about the existence of a Heavily Indebted Poor Country, unable to pay its debts, with a long history of political instability, some 200 miles of our shores.
I, for one, would be in favour of an aid programme 100% made in the Falklands. I'm thinking of a magnanimous neighborly gesture such as the creation of a Falkland Islands Fund for Indigent Argentinians, using coming oil wealth to provide aid to the needy, with particular emphasis on those whose land has been usurped, whether by Spanish invaders back in the day, or by soya bean farmers in the present.
Perhaps the new Pope would also be willing to help.
Hansy you are not making any sense. We have more oil you will ever have in 10 lifetimes. Does Vaca muerta ring the bell? We don't want your money or your houses is that clear?
Mar 15th, 2013 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0254 Pesky Army (#)
Mar 15th, 2013 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Hansy you are not making any sense. We have more oil you will ever have in 10 lifetimes. Does Vaca muerta ring the bell? We don't want your money or your houses is that clear”
Then the question has to be asked WHT DO YOU WANT then . If it is our Land you can forget it because we are not about to be giving any of it away anytime soon.
We want those wooly sexy sheeps
Mar 15th, 2013 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@243 GeofWard2
Mar 15th, 2013 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well i would agree, why do they think 300 miles is right on their doorstep. On BBC Newsnight (6th March), 3 young Argentines were interviewed. 1 said they had been brainwashed and the 2 others said it was Argentine for 2 reasons: 1 was historical, the other was proximity. It is ensconsed into their heads that the falklands is theirs because it is close to them but far from us! If this was an international law about proximity, America would loose Alaska, Britain could claim Ireland, France, Belgium and Holland could claim Britain, Morroco could claim the Canary Islands, America could claim Cuba, The Bahamas... ad infinetem.
So now look at the Historica claim. Britain Usurped the Malvinas... now lets assume for 1 moment that this is true (I know but lets play their game). So in the intervening time, Americans usurped the Mexicans and gained Texas, Britain and her Allies broke the Ottoman Empire... freeing Cypres, Palestine , many other countries (lets ignore Israel as I can't cover everything), Taiwan separated from China... ad infinetem.
So we brit posters know their claims are a pile of cack but the poor argentine posters (bless'em) have it hardwired into their brains. They can't seem to shake it off.
It's all about education, even with the ubiquitous Internet, it is going to take a while to stamp out their lunatic idea especially when their schools still teach the stuff, and their pope believes in the malvinas.
@254 Pesky
Mar 15th, 2013 - 01:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Of course I've heard of Vaca Muerta. But you shouldn't talk about your President like that.
Everyone Brit know's I support the UK and the Falklands. However Mucky, you are aware the the USA bought and paid for Alaska, New Mexico and California and assumed Mexican debt in exchange for Texas. Although Texas was an independent country for a very short period and, correct me if I am wrong, still has a building in England that was the Texas embassy.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Either way proximity is not a claim to land. If it were, every land in the AMerica's can be considered usurped.
@258 Hansel you shouldn't insult cows in such a hideous manner.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0At least we don't cheer a drag queen...
CHRISR.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After reading your decadent comment, i understand why you think that macri is the only boss worth having of the region. He isn't less reactionary than you. He belongs to the most conservative and reactionary sector of the politic, which is neoliberal, and pro financial market.
Lukilly not many people in this country think like you and him, thats' why in 2011 he decided not to run for president, and decided to run again for boss of government in buenos aires city, where population is mostly anti peronist. Beside, all the polls showed that his popularity around the country was 23%, now you can understand why he decided not to run for president.
The worst that can happen to us, is to have that guy as a president, despite all the serious problems that we still have, the country could improve so much in many aspects, but macri's conservative ideas, will become arg. again into the u. s. a's backyard, which will be a great news for reactionary and imperialist people like you.
You guys are comedians. You keep repeating that you are brits and yet spend the whole day, debating argentine politics.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0AHHHHHHHHH Now I get it YOU ARE ARGIES after all
Maybe we should lift the anchors and let the Islands drift a few thousand miles North by East that would stop this stupid nonsence
Mar 15th, 2013 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Easier would be to acknowledge the fact that you are living in argieland...just saying
Mar 15th, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0261 axel arg
Mar 15th, 2013 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So answer me these questions please.
How do you propose to get a President who:
1) is not a thieving crook;
2) does not buy votes;
3) knows how to run an economy which brings wealth to your country instead of pocketing it;
4) can operate without having to obscure the view of the people from what they are really doing;
5) can make AR great again like in 1909;
6) has diplomatic relations with all the major powers and not just Embassies stuffed with morons who spout their lies ad nausium?
Solving these problems would only be the start: you then need to stop the endemic corruption at all levels of society and reduce the crime.
You don’t need a President, you need Superman. And don’t say the Popsicle can help.
Chris, you are so concerned about us that is almost heartbreaking...One day you will have the chance to put all your expertise at the service of your homeland..Argentina.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0266 Pesky Army (#)
Mar 15th, 2013 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 15th, 2013 - 04:37 pm
Chris is concerned about us because he lives in Uruguay, and when CFK takes us over our very own “fiscal cliff”, Uruguay will be dragged down with us!!!!!
it's great to see all these “pesky” aliases about again.
Mar 15th, 2013 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0267 Simon68
Mar 15th, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Exactly Simon68.
Just like I am very concerned for you and your extended family and for my Argentine next door neighbours who have now gone back to BsAs.
It seems my friend is responding to the medication for his Tubercolosis at last, but his 90 YO mother, who is here for another two weeks, is very worried whether they will be able to get the medication for another four months to finish the course off.
She also has problems (at 90 who has not) and does not need this worry for the sake of that cow in the Casa Rosada.
Kindest regards.
That's incredible.A squatter vote and decide to be squatter for a long time, maybe forever. They pride themselves on a crime which should be ashamed. what are they doing so far from home. Nobody think about it? This is our land, you don't have the right to vote anything in our land. Even if the Argentinian goverment doesn't care about the argentinian people, or argentinian land, not for that anybody can come and take our territory.
Mar 17th, 2013 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There was a crime?
Mar 17th, 2013 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What crime?
Crime! the only real crime was Argentina when they invaded the Falklands and took innocent lives, the the government of Argentina tortured then own citizens, kidnapped their babies of their own citizens.
Mar 17th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@264 TTT troll
Mar 17th, 2013 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Easier would be to acknowledge the fact that you are living in argieland...just saying”
“Just saying” - to be contemporary, you should say “just sayin' ”.
You are like parents trying to emulate their teenage kids slang, to sound 'hip' and relate better, when really they don't have a clue.
But, back to the point - “just saying”, meaning you are just making an off the cuff statement, not really expecting anyone to heed you, or give your statement any credence.
Obviously, you don't believe it yourself or don't have the courage of your convictions!
What happened to the altruistic, integrity of the TTT (Toby) who said the islanders should be left alone??
“Pesky”??? LOL!!!
CHRIS.
Mar 17th, 2013 - 10:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Great argentina like in 1909?. Yor are so obvious.
The so called argentina of 1909 was just an agrarian british colony, where the u. k. had a very big influence over the country, due to most our economy was handled by british interests, and you know about this perfectly, thats' why you miss that politic scenario so much.
On the other hand, the decadent view that you have about arg., is not more than the tipical reactionary opinion of the most decadent and mediocre sectors of imperialism.
Beyond your mediocre thought, like it or not, arg. has positive and negative aspects like any other country in the world, including your so loved u. k., which is not a paradise either.
Despite that arg. is still a very unequal society, and has very serious problems which werent solved. Since 2003, it could improved in planty of aspects in reference to different issues. That's why, what we don't need are the politcians who you admire, to rule the country.
274 axel arg
Mar 17th, 2013 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just look at the figures. Money figures, trading figures, crime figures, poverty figures, etc.
Back in 1909 your country was great and had poor people as well. Am I understanding you correctly, I think so.
So please tell me WTF is better about your country NOW?
Not only is it bankrupt, masses of crime, indoctrinated children (who grow up into adults believing the shit) thanks to Peron, only now has MORE people in abject poverty.
And THAT’S A WIN?
I would imagine a LOT of people in AR, given the chance, would want 1909 back; at least there would be less crime and better governance.
@274 Axis Arg
Mar 17th, 2013 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“On the other hand, the decadent view that you have about arg., is not more than the tipical reactionary opinion of the most decadent and mediocre sectors of imperialism.”
What little socialist leaflet are you parroting ???
Do you even know what you are saying???
*sigh* - brainwashed pseudo-populist dogma.
Up until Peron, as Axel says, the economy had a lot of foreign investment and foreign run corporations and utilities.
They were wealthier with a promising future.
Peronism, contrary to serving the people, only seems to have served Peron and the modern day Peronists.
More poverty now, and the enviable institutions and infrastructure of the past have fractured and collapsed due to neglect, and underfunding, result of pervasive political corruption .
The Malvinas (Falkland Islands) referendum was only an advertisement stunt.
Mar 18th, 2013 - 02:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was only a parody of democracy, as practically today the approximate 3,300 inhabitants are British. All Argentinean inhabitants were taken away in 1833 by the British and “dropped” in Uruguay. Naturally, most of the actual British descentdent inhabitants might prefer a British government in elections like this.
The islands are not so small as they equal almost 10% the size of England.
(They are more than 12,000 Km 2.)
Luis Vernet was the Argentinean Military and Civil Commander of the islands when the British invaded in 1833, taking advantage of the small number of Argentineans living there at the time, and the military weakness of the country in those days. It was an unlawful and very easy task for the passing by English warships in front of an unarmed island
The day the islands are returned to Argentina, as they were part of its territory untill 1833, the inhabitants can remain British subjects if they so desire, as in Argentina, as in many other countries, you can maintain your original nationality.
By the way, the present inhabitants were made citizens by England only after the war.
Before they were know as “Kelpers,” as prior to the Malvinas' or Falkland's war they were not British citizens.
This election was like asking a consortium of squatters voting on whether they're like to continue illegally occupying a building or not.
It must also be noted that the British invaded Buenos Aires and consequently Argentina in 1806 and 1807, but in both occasions they were expelled.
(Google it under the ”British invasions of Buenos Aires in 1806 and 1807.
Oliver W. Caminos MD
Pittsburgh
PA, USA
001 (412) 4176676
Dear Dr Oliver who seems to work at the Pittsburgh Cardiovascular Institute.
Mar 18th, 2013 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why did you include a phone number?
Anyway as a johnnies-come-lately to this forum we can forgive you for raising points that have already been refuted so many times it is almost farcical.
But let me give you some pointers:
Not ALL the inhabitants chose to leave. Some stayed on.
Luis Vernet wasn't on the islands in 1833
Mestivier was the Garrison Commander and in charged.... until murdered
Britain didn't invade Argentina in 1806 and 1807 as it was a Spanish Viceroyalty
Also learn the difference between England and Britain. As a supposed MD you are looking foolish. You might try googling more Falkland's history before posting again.
Sincerely
A. Nglotino
Melbourne
Australia
+61 3 555 5555 5555 plus another couple of numbers.
@227OWCamino
Mar 18th, 2013 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0As an objective and independent observer, you may wish to consult other versions of the history of the Falklands and the British claims, based on academic research and existing diaries, maps, and documents from the last 200 years.
@277 Another brainwashed RG,
Mar 18th, 2013 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Baloney! Pure unadulterated Rubbish,
Argentine lies writ large.
Complete bullcrap.
Try again, amigo.
Anyway they are OUR lslands & we're certainly not giving them to someone like you.
@Troy and Isolde
Mar 18th, 2013 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems someone who lives in the US forgot a seemingly unimportant piece of paper that started with:
“We the People”.
@281anglotino
Mar 18th, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Heh heh heh. Ja ja ja
@280 Isolde
Mar 19th, 2013 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Too right.
But ofcourse Britain has a squatters law. It's the law of Adverse Possession. Squatters can hold onto land and property if it is shown that the land or property has had no management/residence by the owner and the squatters can prove 12 years of continuous care.
So even if they were squatters (what a bloody joke), they still win the land through adverse possession. The law is not stupid here. Land could never be freed up over the immense course of time without this law.
CHRIS R. TROY TOMPEST.
Mar 20th, 2013 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0While it is true that argentina in 1909 was the seventh economy of the world, it is also true that most that big opulence was enjoyned by the richest sectors from our society, but most people lived in very bad conditions, and there weren't social lawes.
During the presidence of hipólito irigoyen (1916-1922, 1928-1930) he applied some lawes in order to protect the salaries of the workers, and gave them more benefices, that's why he was so hated by the rich people. However he didn't industrialize the country, and the economy remained being mostly agraian, beside, he continued with the huge dependence that our cuntry had with the u. k.
If you hate peron so strongly it's not because of the serious mistakes of his government, actually you hate him because he broke with the dependence that arg. had with your decadent empire.
Despite some aspects of his govt. which were very controversial and negative, he industrialized the country, and gave many social rights to millions of people around the country.
It's very long to explain here all what happened in the country after peron was broken down by a militar coup d'etat. I just can tell you that untill 1983 we had a few constitutional governments which were very good, but they all were broken down by militar dictatorships.
Since 1983, the country could never recover all it had achieved during the 9 years of peronism. Alfonsin was a great president, but he could controll the economy, and was broken down by a financial coup d'etat in 1989. During menem's presidence, he sold the country, and became arg, into u. s. a's backyard.
After the terribe crisis of 2001, and since kirchnerism took office in 2003, despite all the serious problems that arg. still has. The country could improve so much in reference to social issues, and could get a more autonomy policy, which is something that you don't tolerate.
284 axel arg
Mar 20th, 2013 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The country could improve so much in reference to social issues, and could get a more autonomy policy, which is something that you don't tolerate.”
Autonomy in policy: are you mad? TMBOA has no policy, the 'model' is not written down and plans made to work to it.
Instead TMBOA makes everything up as she goes along and the stupid buggers believe it.
AR is fcuked but you cannot see it. Another catastrophe is just over the horizon.
CHRIS R.
Mar 21st, 2013 - 07:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not interested in persuanding absolutly anybody in this forum, especially if they have such a decadent and ignorant thought like your's. I juts want to say what i think, because you are talking about my country, however, wether you take or not what i say, is absolutly irrelevant for me.
Your arguments are the tipicall pathetic comments that i have have heard for the last 9 years, in reference to argentina's future, but fortunatelly reality always breaks down finally, the miserable wishes of mediocre people like you, and many others.
270 Nacho (#)Mar 17th, 2013 - “That's incredible.A squatter vote and decide to be squatter for a long time, maybe forever. They pride themselves on a crime which should be ashamed. what are they doing so far from home. Nobody think about it? This is our land, you don't have the right to vote anything in our land. Even if the Argentinian goverment doesn't care about the argentinian people, or argentinian land, not for that anybody can come and take our territory.”
Mar 21st, 2013 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So smart ass tell us what are you doing on land stolen from the indigenous people . Squatting I call it. In fact we have more right to the Falkland Islands land than any Argentine has to stolen land in South America.
You need to be very carefull how you define stolen myy friend because Falkland Islanders did not steel anything. We have been living here before your Country even had a name. Oh sorry you were not tought that in school was you.
286 axel arg
Mar 22nd, 2013 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But Axel, you are coming up on the tenth year!
We ALL know what happens to AR every ten years or so: your government screws up so badly that the economy tanks, you lose a large part of the value of your pesos and your are all way behind your own historical wealth AGAIN!
How can you possibly defend this?
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