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Three firsts for Habemus Papus: Argentine, Jesuit and announced in twitter

Thursday, March 14th 2013 - 02:14 UTC
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Three firsts for the new Pope: Argentine, Jesuit and his election by fellow cardinals was announced by twitter. Jorge Mario Bergoglio, is a theological conservative with a strong social conscience, and a modest man who declined the archbishop's luxurious residence to live in a simple apartment and travel by public transport. Read full article

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  • Marcos Alejandro

    Congratulations to him.
    I wish he wasn't a cuervo fan but at least he is not gallina.
    Malvinas and the Pope belong to Argentina.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • XAVIERV

    Habemus Papam.. ARGENTINO!!!
    Where are the trolls of the islands, who prophesied that Argentina is about to disappear? Hahahaha!
    LOL..

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    2 XAVIERV
    I heard they are forming lines to buy a return ticket.

    “Las Malvinas are ours“: New Argentinian Pope Francis has hard line on Falkland Islands”

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/pope-francis-hard-line-falkland-1762205

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    I wish him the best and hope he brings well needed change for the church but think it will, sadly, just be “more of the same”.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (1) Marcos Alejandro

    Two Souls..... One Thought....
    A Pope may be ANYTHING..., but Bostero.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    Ignore the falklands issue, i'm more concerned on his opinions and plans regarding same sex marriage, corruption, homosexuality, child abuse in the church, women priests, priests celibacy, opening vatican records (historical and financial) to the public... Many, many bigger issues to deal with. Please don't make this another falklands thread, it gets very tiring.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fido Dido

    A Dutch pope will never happen, so I have no dog in this fight, but my Brazilian girlfriend says it is a terrible choice ( the've chosen a mobster vs southern european and (hidden) nazi german pedophilia scumbags). Furios that they have chosen an Argentine over a Brazilian that has the most catholics in the world (for now, question is for how long since the Christian Evangelical movement is rising faster then ever).

    Anyway, this is now what they talk about in Alternative Media in the US. I suspect, we will hear more about this new pope.

    http://www.hangthebankers.com/pope-francis-kidnapping-controversy-accused-of-involvement-in-1976-abductions/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pope-francis-kidnapping-controversy-accused-of-involvement-in-1976-abductions

    Meanwhile the Evangelicals are moving faster forward in South America, mainly in Brazil.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @6 I agree, the Pope should be concerned with the Church.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    For such an ancient organisation with immense historical archives, I wonder how it will cope with things like Twitter.

    @6 Boovis

    I'm not really concerned about his views on same sex marriage and homosexuality. The church really doesn't have much influence on civil society in most countries any longer.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    The US is still predominantly against both and murders take place in African states regularly because of the same reasons. The Pope could speak out and change all this.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    5 Think
    Somehow I knew that one was coming :-))))))

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (11) Marcos Alejandro

    A Bostero that “knew” something?
    The age of miracles is not over ;-)))))

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toooldtodieyoung

    You know, If I was to start listening to “Voices in my head” or saying that ”God has spoken to ( unto me, sorry ) I would be given my own padded cell and a jacket that does up at the back..........

    If I go to church and talk to my imaginary friend, and listen to what he has to say then that's ok and entirely “normal”........go figure.....

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MrFlagpole

    He looks like a Bond villain.

    Fingers crossed this Pope is prepared to take a tough line on child abuse.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Beef

    So the malvanists think the Holy Father is now going to spend his time petitioning for the Falklands to be handed over to Argentina. I think he will.spend his time dealing with pertient issues to the church and it's flock of 1.3bn.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (11) Marcos Alejandro

    Look what I found, in English ;-))))
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bostero

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    Oh. A Malvinista is in charge of the church of the great sky fairy? This is going to be fun.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    A Jesuit Malvanista - were there no kiddie-fiddlers available?
    At least his Argentine heritage looks pretty solid - Italian parents.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @3 Marcos Alexandro
    Thanks for the link. So the new pope is Malvinista! It's a sign from God that the Malvinas are Argentine. First their was Maradonna now there's Pope Francis, the signs are there, definitely. Thank the lord that religion is pure fantasy.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BenC30

    How can a man, such as the Pope, wear such a beautiful white dress and still be so homophobic?

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Trunce

    I knew this would be trouble.

    http://www.dailysquib.co.uk/world/3881-new-pope-wants-catholic-church-to-invade-falklands.html

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @21 Trunce (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:35 am

    'Blubber blabber blubber' said the Argentine president.

    PMSL!

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    Ahhh the inbreds out in force again. Funny they mention the Pope, when a guy who beheaded 5 or 6 of his wives became HEAD OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND so much for Christian love... LMAO.
    P:S: It´s so easy to hammer you boys that it´s becoming a tad boring...

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (15) Beef

    Pertinent, Mr. Beef....
    P e r t i n e n t.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    PA

    As ever, such a rich Argentinian grasp of history, actually it was two, but hey, since when did the true facts ever get in the way of Argentine claims.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    Only 2...that´s all about you can say, you poor little sad dwarf?

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Trunce

    @23

    Don't exaggerate - it was merely two ; )

    King Henry the Eighth,
    to six wives he was wedded.
    One died, one survived,
    two divorced, two beheaded.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @27 nice rhyme. Thumbs up ; (ironic mode off)

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Speaking about the fine “Family Values” of Henry VIII and his small “Pecadillos”....

    I couldn't avoid noticing, through all that press coverage during the last couple of weeks ,that many of the senior Kelpers have definitely gained more than a few stones in the last couple of years....

    In best Argentinean manner, I demand you eat more veggies and less gravy!

    Take care, Kelpers
    El Think, Chubut, Argentina

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Sad dwarf who knows and can tell the truth, compared to a fact distorting troll, who can lie through her teeth, no suprise there. A national trait, well practiced and encouraged from birth.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    Now's the best time for Argentina to push its land grab, with a sympathetic Pope, and a retard in the White House, who thinks Britain should hold talks with Argentina on sovereignty of the Maldives. A malvinista accused of kidnapping children 'elected' head of the Catholic church. No wonder Catholicism's going down the toilet and the evangelicals are expanding in South America... thus the transparent political appointment. Obama’s on the way out and somehow I reckon your Pope won’t be around for very long. Bring it on.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Think, just for you.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDXD7TT2VpQ
    Thought you would prefer Stanleys version better than Hermans Hermits.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @33 Listen to me “mate”, I brought up the Hernry VIII stuff just to point out how hypocrite you people are. You don´t seem or want to understand that. You guys have your heads so stuck up in your arses that you are quick to talk about almost everything, conveniently forgetting your own crap. Done talking to you.
    Jos jedan Publika Pobjeda!!!!

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @34

    You are aware he died in 1547 aren't you?
    In the 466 years since we have never put a foot wrong.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I brought up the point that you people exaggerated again. If your going to bring up a point at least due us the courtesy of being honest, for once.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @35 My point is....HE became the Head of the Church of England, are you aware of that?

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @37 What really? HenryVIII made himself head of the Church of England? Well I never.

    And this thing that happened 500 years ago bears what relevance to 2013?

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I am aware that he lived 500 years ago and that if you wanted to keep your head back then, you did not bloody upset him. Well aware of that.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Churches? It's all bunkum anyway.

    Read Dawkins, Darwin, Dr Brian Cox, Patrick Moore and Galilio

    Poor old Galilio was tortured and imprisoned.

    Didn't you see Monty Python - “Its the Spanish Inquisition!”

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    37 Pesky Army (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:01 am

    My point would be that he died 466 years ago and so is hardly relevant to any modern argument. Damn! You Malvinistas are just too easy.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @40 Dawkins a huge disappointment and easy refutable
    Galileo was imprisoned YET he remain faithful until the end of his days
    Darwin, lost his faith in God because of a traumatic personal experience (think it was due to the lost of his daughter, but can´t remember now).
    Btw Catholic Church accepts and do not question the theory of evolution (natural not spiritual) , which is just that, a THEORY.
    Of all atheist/agnostic writers, the one who makes most sense is Victor Stenger imo.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Trunce

    I hope Argentines realise they now have a special duty to set an example for other Catholics throughout the world.

    http://youtu.be/fUspLVStPbk

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @42

    The Theory of Gravity is also just a theory but unless you are floating around then it is one that has been well proven - just like the Theory of Evolution.

    And how exactly is Dawkins “easily refutable”. All of our emotions, thoughts and dreams are due to the coordinated release of neurotransmitters from cells encoded by DNA passed to us from our ancestors both human and ultmately primate, rodent, fish and microorganism. Darwin excluded man from “On the Origin of Species” not because he didn't realise that's how man evolved but because he knew he would be despised by the religious establishment for it and so he hoped broad-minded people would work out the human implication for themselves. People aren't so scared to speak out nowadays - hence Dawkins.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    I hope Brits can afford a translator
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2292936/BBC-slammed-Pope-election-coverage-translator-fails-translate-Hail-Mary-Our-Father-prayers-correctly.html
    Now it dawns to me where you people get all your facts from. You just simple cannot understand a single word outside your tiny little world.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Yeah, the BBC would not know a lot about foreign language services would they?

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @45

    Yes thanks - we got taught the various religious nursery rhymes at school. But now we have grown up and can think for ourselves we have forgotten them and moved on. Do people in Argentina also challenge the various fairy stories they were taught in school when they grow up?

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Trunce

    @45
    “I hope Brits can afford a translator”

    He was a foreigner- what more would you expect? ; )

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_World_Service

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @45 Pesky Army (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:26 am

    No. I prefer the Daily Mash. Far more entertaining and closer to the truth.

    http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/vatican-sticks-with-nazi-theme-2013031462640

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @44 Doesn´t change the fact that it is a theory.
    Regarding Dawkins just read any of Alister McGrath´s books.
    Apart from the so call selfish gen, Dawkins goes into a rant against religions blaming them for everything is wrong in this world, as if people did not and still do kill each other for politics, power, etc. Even because of sport rivalry I might add.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    The vast majority of Brits have moved on from superstitions like religion, and most of the rest are wary of catholics, because most are loyal to Britain, not to some Italian/ Argentinian foreigner. I am an atheist and I think religion is at the root of most wars, conflicts and sorrow. Just because I am atheist doesn't mean that I have no code to live by, many religions have good codes. But Catholicism is a particularly odious faith, it supresses half the population based on sex, opposes contraception, opposes homosexuality, opposes abortion and would take us all back to the dark ages given half a chance. What's more, this guy is at the head of the queue for all these evils. If there is anything that us Aetheists can join, its The Brights, a breath of fresh air in a very superstitious (and in many places including the US, backward), world

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Redrow

    @51

    No, evolution is a proven fact. Your latter point shows that you have missed the entire point of what Dawkins is saying. We are fundamentally tribal because our genes and memes make and keep us so. Religion, football and politics etc are just extensions of those tribal battles. In evolutionary terms, people who nurture their children are more reproductively successful than those who let them fend for themselves - therefore nurturing behaviour gets selected for. Its just oxytocin that makes us do it, the same hormone that makes any mammal bond with its young. Don't kid yourself that we are special. So when you have a go at us Brits for our supposed arrogance, just bear in mind it was a Brit who showed the world that none of us are any more special than a rat or a dog.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @50
    Speking of the truth may I suggest you reading this:
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/cristinaodone/100206992/the-guardian-sticks-the-knife-into-the-new-pope/
    Boy you people are twisted...
    P.S. Instead of wasting my time here shouldn´t you be learning bulgarian and romanian languages, I´ve heard it will be an asset in the years to come in a place call Britain; I can even help you out with bulgarian.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Trolls, the Guardian and the Independent are very low circulation , less than 200,000 . They are recognised as limp wristed 'wimp' papers with no influence at all.
    Yes, our country welcomes all sorts from vegetable pickers to brain surgeons, as long as they are willing to work. We don't restrict foreigners to the villas to struggle as cartoneros like you do.
    Most of you are guests of various EU countries as you try to escape the poverty and crime of Argentina. However much you have been brainwashed from birth you must have grave doubts nagging away at your hearts.
    If you want to quote press quote influential newspapers.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    Errr sorry but was it me the one quoting from “the daily mash” and stating that it was “Far more entertaining and closer to the truth”.
    Barking up at the wrong tree mate..
    Regarding me I am no guest in Europe since I was born here from european parents, just happens that I ve lived in Argieland for some years. And no, I aint of no Spanish/italian background just slavic and germanic ;
    According to you all people from those countries are more than welcomed right? That´s odd because I have been reading on the Daily Mail for a week at leat (is it influential enough for you) how these people were coming to Britain to abuse the system and so on. Anyway your problem not mine. Just proves your hypocresy once more.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @56 Pesky Army (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 01:28 pm

    No. That was me. You know that the Daily Mash is satire don't you?

    And you've been reading the Daily Mail for a week?

    That would explain the frothing at the mouth and the incomprehensible drivel then. Is it influential enough? No. It isn't influential at all. C-minus. Must try a whole lot harder than this you fraction of an individual.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @57 So, you base your opinions on satirical papers and then refer to them as “ closer to the truth”? Boy you are a piece of work...
    “And you've been reading the Daily Mail for a week?” I just pointed out that the news about the romanians and bulgarians were delivered on a daily basis by the tabloid for at least a week. You seem to have limited comprehension skills.
    At least this fraction of an individual can understand basic english you little bitter mousekin...

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Hahaha, we call the Daily Mail the Daily Fascist in our house. It's an extreme right wing rag beloved by Colonel Blimps and racists and laughed at by the vast majority. Should be great reading for someone from Argentina and all other lovers of Franco, Mussolini and Hitler! We don't seek to prove hypocracy, we just like taunting hypocrites...
    If you are talking about Iraq, 2 million British people marched on the streets of London to oppose the war, the biggest ever demo in the history of our country. And, Blair is branded as a war criminal by the vast majority. The same goes for Afghanistan. As for the Chagos that's just hyperbole dreamed up by your people. There is no better place than Britain, and British culture is best which is why it needs to be protected and fostered. If you had travelled to all corners of the world you would know that.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @58 Pesky Army (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:32 pm

    Sorry. My bad. You'd need a sense of humour to understand that one.

    Listen chap you're getting delusional. La Campora might think you're the best of the best but their standards are pretty poor and in the real world the ability to string a couple of grunts together does not make an animal sentient.

    Keep banging those pots together though, I am sure you'll get there eventually.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    Well, it might be great reading for an Argie, but it happens that it still is a british tabloid right? BTW you are telling me that since DM, the Sun, etc are fascist tabloids, my conclusion is that fascism is alive and well in Britain with thousands of people swallowing their garbage everyday. If only Oswie Mosley would be around to see this...

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Elena

    Congratulations to Argentina :)
    loved his joke about Cardenals looking to the end of the world :D

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    Buenos Aires Herald: “http://buenosairesherald.com/article/126327/did-venezuela%E2%80%99s-ch%C3%A1vez-nudge-christ-to-pick-south-american-pope” did chavez nudge christ to pick an SA pope?”
    No, simple answer. Don't be so frickin mental.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @61 Pesky Army (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:50 pm

    I wouldn't say that but you are a knob so I suppose you would. It is alive, yes, but it isn't well. We have far too much fun slapping it own. In the same way we like slap down throbbers like you. It is a national sport.

    Daily Mail readers? Sun readers? We have a name for them. Knobs and throbbers and the people think they are the beating heart of British public opinion. That will be you Pesky. That will be you. Tw@t.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Elena

    63 :O All I can say is... he´s in campaing to fight for presidency, politicians talk strange stuff while in campaing :)

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @64 Furry ol' boy you are seriously losing the plot here mate, just calm down, take a deep breath and repeat with: Las malvinas son argentinas.
    Feel better now? Good
    My question is: how is it that you have some many fascist tabloids if there weren't any fascist readers...sure La Campora and KKristina must be behind funding them. Makes a lot of sense to me.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @66 Pesky Army (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 03:07 pm

    You remind me of somebody who used to post on here. Same style, same drivel. Different name, different nationality (again).

    It's not is it? That you Guzz? You back?

    I do hope so I've missed old Guzz, he was a wheeze. Just like you.

    By the way. Repeat after me

    The Pope is the leader of the Church of the Invisible Sky Fairy.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @67 Furious Fatty
    Are you planning to answer me the question anytime soon?
    How is it that you have so many fascist tabloids if there weren't any fascist readers. Is it La Campora and KKristina behind those, funding them.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    Ha! It is you! Guzz mate I've missed you! It's me. War Monkey. We used to be muckers remember?

    Anyway. To your question. Erm? Dunno? Maybe there are racist fascist readers it wouldn't surprise me you find the buggers everywhere you go. They were all over East Falkland in 1982. Some of them spoke Welsh with a South American accent which was a bit freaky.

    Argentina, no, South America. The place is crawling with them. The UK? Yes I've met a few but they tend to hide under rocks. That said, I know a few people who read those rags for a laugh or because there is bugger all else to read. I say read but, well, you know what mean as you have confessed to being a reader yourself. Sorry. Did that answer your question?

    Guzz. Good to see you back mate!

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    No you did not, but anyway I will just let it go, since it's obvious you cannot give me a better answer.
    Back to Guzz I don't know who the heck he is. Sorry but I don't think we have ever met each other.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    Okay. Sorry my mistake. Look I'm sorry I have read your post several times and I can't really see a question.

    “How is it that you have so many fascist tabloids if there weren't any fascist readers. Is it La Campora and KKristina behind those, funding them.”

    Well it's not really a question is it because you lead with the assumption that there are a lot of tabloid news papers in Britain. But what are you comparing it to? Italian tabloids? Spanish?, Brazilian? You see you have posed a leading question without any context which is what propagandists do and I usually make a point not to answer. They are not questions. They are troll posts and in your own way you have answered it yourself.

    If you want a question answered ask a question, don't try to dress an opinion up as a question and bitch when nobody answers you.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    “How is it that you have so many fascist tabloids if there weren't any fascist readers. Who is funding them? How do they survive, day after day, week after week?
    Does it sound better now? Comprendes ingles amigo?
    P.S. What I posted before was a Logical statement, but you don't seem to get it do you?

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Piny

    Pónganse contento que el Papa es Argentino como todos ustedes en las islas Malvinas. Dios esta de nuestro lado y no hay armas mas poderosas que eso. amén

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    That will be Rupert the Il Duce!

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    Yes that sounds better now. An actual question.

    It is a two part answer I reckon.

    Firstly the legal framework that these tabloids operate in have to allow them to operate yes? That would be free press regulation then. Easy. If of course they say or do something that infringes the legal framework then action would and indeed has been taken in the past. And don't forget that just because you might disagree with somebody's opinion, it won't make the expression of that opinion illegal.

    Secondly there would be the daily readership which would require only a small percentage of the population to make it profitable.

    You could not assume that every Sun or Daily mail reader is a right wing fascist (but i do wonder sometimes) and even if they were you could never assume that the whole country was a right wing fascist state. Unless you have an axe to grind in which case your opinion would be moot.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • The Cestrian

    Controversy already about the new Pope and his association with the military junta:

    http://news.sky.com/story/1064535/pope-francis-and-argentinas-dirty-war

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hipolyte

    Dios es argentino, no cabe duda

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Vuggevise

    Strong social conscience? LOL

    A slimy coward who turns a blind eye when a junta is murdering his fellow countrymen by the thousands doesn't have a conscience ... social or otherwise. He is the scum of the earth.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    @75 First things first, I never said all the country was a right wing fascist state or that Great Britain was a fascist state. It just seems to me that if those 2 tabloids are popular enough, it´s because someone reads them right?, That´s all.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    The article is excellent. For being honest, i am not happy with bergoglio's designation as the new pope.
    During the debates for gay marriage in july of 2010, he compared the aprobation of that law, with a war against god.
    On the other hand, the fact that he's seriously suspected of not protecting those two priest during the dictatorship, make me not to be proud of him.
    Beside, there are documents which prove that he knew about the babies appropiations, during the dictatorship. Sorry, but i am not happy with the election of this man as the new pope.
    On the other hand, gay people like me have never been welcome by the church, so, as long as it continues excluding people wno have always been discriminated and ignored by the different societies around the world, the church will contunue losing more and more devotes.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pheel

    First, he never turned a blind eye about victims of the Junta, instead fought for them to be released alive. Read Peace Nobel Prize Pérez Esquivel about the hateful libels written by the kirchnerists.
    Second, we have already lose a pro-Argentina priest, as Pope he would never allowed himself to be part in our conflict.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    Axel poofters belong to Mardi Gras in Manchester not to the Church...

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Axel

    In August 2003 the Episcopal Diocese of New Hampshire elected an openly gay priest, Gene Robinson, as a bishop. This came shortly after a similar controversy in England when a gay priest, Canon Jeffrey John, was appointed to become the Suffragan Bishop of Reading. Eventually, however, John agreed to withdraw in order to avoid division. In 2004, in the aftermath of Robinson's election as bishop, John was installed as Dean of St Albans, the cathedral there being the site of England's first Christian martyr.

    However I believe the church requires Gay Priests to be cellebate, which in my opinion is still discrimination, as they say Rome was not built in a day. No Pun intended.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @79 Pesky Army (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 06:28 pm

    Then what exactly is your point? It seems like a very odd statement to make if it means nothing to you. Why waste your time on it?

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    Oh dear since you brought up the whole thing of the newspapers, I was just following the thread...man you are thick

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Alexei

    From an agnostic perspective, one side appear to be arrogant, self-righteous, narrow minded bigots, whilst the other look like deluded, closed minded zealots living in the land of the fairies.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    Alexei I posted in russian previously still waiting to hear your thoughts about it...

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @85 Pesky Army (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:25 pm

    Actually no. A quick scan and you brought up news papers in post number 45 and I answered you in post number 50. Don't be a lying toe-rag your whole life and don't be so backward stupid as to get yourself caught out so bloody easily. You thick Malvinista knob.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    I just made a comment on the BBC and provided a link in post n 45, AND YOU told me you prefered the daily whatsoever.
    Man YOU are thick....So pathetic not even worth insulting.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Furry-Fat-Feck

    @89 Pesky Army (#)
    Mar 14th, 2013 - 07:57 pm

    .......and yet you continue to answer and insult.

    You give us a link to the Daily Mail, you do not distinguish if your issue is with the Daily Mail or the BBC and lets face it they are both supposedly news vendors. Then you continue to mention the Daily Mail and the Sun but NOT the BBC in subsequent posts and then at the very end you say it is all about the BBC. Well pardon me for my confusion but you do lack consistency.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pesky Army

    You are losing it mate....

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    He lost, pea brain trol, nuthing to say

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    I believe the expression is faeces agitator.

    Better known as shit stirrer.

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Faz

    He gone by by . Sleep with sister

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #80 I have the same worries. Cristina bravely attacked his anti-gay preaching in 2010, calling it reminiscent of the inquisition and the crusades. And his role under the junta seems very murky; the line of his defenders in the British media at least is that the allegations are lies by militant leftists, who are really out to get him for his criticism of the government for not doing enough to fight poverty. If he was really just saying Cristina should move EVEN MORE to the left, why would the militants be against him?! My impression is if he is saying that its probably another Moyanoesque talking left in order to help the right trick, but what do you (and other trusted commentators like Think) think? I hope he won't now use his position as God's representative on Earth to meddle in Argentine politics and help the right wing opposition of which he seems to have been a part these last years; a bit like what John Paul did in Poland except Argentina isn't a Communist dictatorship under Russian occupation, so hopefuly it should be a harder job for hoim to get the moral high ground against a President who has done more than any other to help the poor and keeps winning free elections?

    On the other hand he was good on AIDS; Channel 4 news said he washed victims' feet 20 years ago when it was taboo. And on a lighter note having an Argie Pope will really wind up some of the backwoodsmen, not least on here, no?!

    Mar 14th, 2013 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    he at least is against corruption and robbing, says that to our politics (that didnt like him) of all governments, and also lives according to what he says.
    he cared of those who were vulnerable on this society.
    nobody was expecting him to be elected here in Arg, becuase of his age, neither him, said his sister.
    hope the best for him.
    I like also Máxima, she is also simple, we cant blame her for her parents, she is intelligent and is working in microcredits (she studied economy in Arg) and goes to schools, organisations to talk about economy and visits her family in Arg, took her kids to hospital here, once they got ill, I mean normal.

    Mar 15th, 2013 - 12:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • you are not first

    I am sorry my Brits pals, the circle is closing. And the world is changing...
    Hey, this society of 21st century will embrace YOU as the group of people who has NEVER EVOLVED. HURRY UP, AND CHANGE BEFORE THE WORLD SURPRISE YOU Or,
    You could create and a fantasy world with Somalian Pirates, and start CLAIMING EVERY THING YOU FIND FLOATING IN THE OCEAN.
    You don think you are better than them, right? Well, may be is true. YOU ARE ALL OLD CRAMKY and UNABLE TO WALK 1/2 yard without your medicine Supermen. The Somalian are Real Pirates
    VIVA EL PAPA ARGENTINO !

    Mar 15th, 2013 - 03:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Can someone please translate post 97 from schizoid and manic Spanglish into sane and normal English.

    I know he is making a point but does anyone other than he know what it is?

    Mar 15th, 2013 - 04:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    16 Think
    You said:
    Marcos Alejandro
    Look what I found, in English ;-))))

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=riber+plate

    I know, las gayinas are famous :-))))))

    Mar 15th, 2013 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • you are not first

    Aglot- Dino,

    I understand your disability. You will 6 Ft under the ground without seeing the world from outside of shape of an straw( this metaphor from second grade is for you to understand) In other word, you will never learn another language, but yes you have learn to steal and damage our society. Here in the USA could receive the ADA benefit as profound MR( tell some of your Argenitian good friend translate this because you are not capable. Can you clean your nose or you are still learning ? )

    Mar 15th, 2013 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #96 ”I like also Máxima, she is also simple, we cant blame her for her parents, she is intelligent and is working in microcredits (she studied economy in Arg) and goes to schools, organisations to talk about economy and visits her family in Arg, took her kids to hospital here, once they got ill, I mean normal.”

    Who are you talking about here?

    Mar 15th, 2013 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    Oh damn.

    Can someone please help me understand posts 97 AND 100!

    Mar 15th, 2013 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (101) British_Kirchnerist

    You ask Malen...:
    Who are you talking about here?

    Malen is talking about..:
    Miss Máxima Zorreguieta Cerruti from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    AKA
    Her Majesty The Queen of the Netherlands (from the 30 April 2013)

    Argie girls luuuuuv this fairy story.....

    Mar 15th, 2013 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    103 Think
    I believe more in the fairy tales of future Queen Máxima than in the fairy tale of Queen Christine (that ends in 2015 inexorablimently) when she tells she made money because she was “una abogada exitosa”. Dont you?

    Mar 15th, 2013 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (104) Malen

    Malenita... Cristina is not my Queen.....
    Neither is she my Princess.....
    But, in the balance of things, she is a brave woman in an impossible job.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    ALL things are important when you make a balance, in my oppinion.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    ALL things indeed.......... Couldn't agree more with you..
    Please remember that constructing approach when critizicising our current administration.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 09:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    As far as I remember, it was during the dictatorship, that Ks in Río Gallegos were working as “abogada/o exitosa/o”....if numbers dont fail me.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Malenita.... Malenita....
    The oldest trick in the book and you are falling for it......

    If you only knew what General San Martin did with the “Damas Mendocinas” Jewels.....

    If you only knew how many clerics Monseñor Bergoglio handed personally over to the Junta.....

    If you only knew what Máxima does on ........

    Etc.........
    Etc......
    Etc...

    Entendés a donde estoy yendo?
    No te dejés engañar tán facil pebeta!

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    dont want to post links, but there are many people that knew them during that time of dictatorship.
    Dilma, Mujica had been in jail. These had not been in jail, exiled, or havent been combatientes either.
    They were becoming millonaires with 1050 decree of dictatorship.
    so, de qué se las dan para criticar?????
    40 years robbing, its time they can give us a rest.

    Mar 16th, 2013 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Dear Malen

    Again, you are using the destructive arguments from the oposition.....
    If they had been combatants, you would be calling them criminals....
    I don't know how old you are but.....Do you remember 2001?
    What do you want... Another Menem?
    Macri?

    I would luuuv Mujica as president of Argentina....
    Maybe we should kidnap him :-)))

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 04:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malen

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 17th, 2013 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #105 “Malenita... Cristina is not my Queen.....
    Neither is she my Princess.....
    But, in the balance of things, she is a brave woman in an impossible job”

    Quite right. I only called Cristina my Queen to annoy the ultra-Britishists in Jubilee year, and the beautiful princess of peace because she has insisted on persuing her case peacefully and looks like a beautiful princess =) (My real view, I hope obviously, is that I hope Britain will soon be as advanced a constitutional democracy as Argentina and get to elect our own head of state!) As you say she is definately a very brave woman; I hope the job will not prove entirely impossible =)

    #109 Right again. Its funny some of the right wingers on here, even the sensible ones, seem to think, probably subconsciously, that Dilma and Pepe were terrorists for fighting their juntas, Nestor and Cristina were collabortors for NOT doing what the “terrorists” did, and yet with Francis, well, it was a difficult time and he did the best he could. Maybe he did and maybe he could have done more, but it was a difficult toime for ALL of them, including those who took part in armed struggle and those who mde a tactical retreat to live to fight another day.

    #111 ”I would luuuv Mujica as president of Argentina....
    Maybe we should kidnap him :-)))”

    Only if that means we can have Cristina as Prime Minister (or President!) of Britain =)

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    “I hope Britain will soon be as advanced a constitutional democracy as Argentina and get to elect our own head of state!”

    Military dictatorships in the last century:
    Argentina - 6
    UK - 0

    2011 EUI Democracy Index ranking:
    Argentina - 61
    UK - 18

    Yep! Advanced.

    Oh PS British Kirchnerist, you totally gave away the fact you are not British in that post! Can you find it?

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #115 “Military dictatorships in the last century:
    Argentina - 6
    UK - 0”

    Yes our democracy is older and has at times, especially the late 70s, been way in advance of Argentina's - but the truth is the Argies have caught up with and overtaken us, and are still steaming ahead on issues like press ownership that are the blight of our body politic too!

    “Oh PS British Kirchnerist, you totally gave away the fact you are not British in that post! Can you find it?”

    No I can't, and since I am British its a bit of a moot point! But please do point out your flawed reasoning, I for one am interested =)

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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