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Former Argentine dictator anticipates a military-people uprising to recover the Republic

Tuesday, March 19th 2013 - 02:18 UTC
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Former Argentine dictator Jorge Rafael Videla, came on stage to once again question the Government of President Cristina Fernandez. In an interview with the Spanish media, the dictator said that in case the Kirchnerites try to “perpetuate in power, the armed and security forces along with the people will prevent it.” Read full article

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  • Marcos Alejandro

    Enjoy the jail Jorge, hell is next.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 03:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

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    Mar 19th, 2013 - 04:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ayayay

    Sorry, Jorge. The people voted. And it's interesting to watch.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    With 6 juntas in the past 100 years, poor old Jorge is probably right. Democracy doesn't have deep roots in Argentina.

    It will be interesting to see how CFK will try to perpetuate her power. She's no Bachelet.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 05:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    lol, a repeat of 76 to 82? well we all know how that ended! sounds accurate though, Cristina definitely wants to take a lot of Argentines with her to death's door(her health is already close), via another Falklands War.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 08:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Doveoverdover

    I enjoyed this suggestion.....

    ”Videla also asked that all his comrades “aged between 58-68 years old, who are still in combat fitness, to arm themselves again in order to defend the basic institutions of the Argentine Republic.

    If I'm anything to go by he'll have difficulty scraping together as much as a four man Active Service Unit.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 08:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (6) Mr. McDod

    You mean... You couldn't complete one of these under 4½ minutes?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq7hQISinRQ

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Dover.....he asks over 58 because he know's under, most have been indoctinated. However, it only takes one bullet. The younger ones have no clue what they could have had. Maybe this failout with Brazil will be a turning point.

    Is toby the only troll that lives in Argentina? And the rest like think and pirate all in Canada, Europe?

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Not ONE Englishman in sight

    http://www.militarypentathlon.org/public/milpent/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=70&Itemid=59

    How disapointing..............

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    @9

    The Argies retreating back to Stanley would have left that lot standing :-)

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

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    Mar 19th, 2013 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    Couldnt find the Argie all arms taking a shit in Port Stanley post office results

    How dissapointing..............

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    This is disgraceful
    ,Mrs C.F.K. has her faults but compared to this butcher she is a gentle soul.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 10:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bongo

    How disappointing that nobody can spell “disappointing”.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”Mrs C.F.K. has her faults but compared to this butcher she is a gentle soul.“”

    Actually I was thinking more the other way around: the more we see & hear of CFK the more she appears like a desperate dictator: shes just killing people through her awful economic policies rather than by throwing them out of planes.

    ---

    nice case of irrational xenophobia you got going there DoDgyThink: got anything meaningful to contribute or too busy trying to remember what account you're posting from today to actually post something to do with the topic?

    No?

    No change there then either. /em rollseyes

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (13) toxictaxitrader2

    That comment of yours was not so turnipy.............

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @9,11,15 Think.....You are refering to an event that UK and US are not even participating in, so would you expect an american or an englishman amongst the rankings if they didnt even take part??? Think first FFS......disappointing!

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Turnip at (18)
    Correct...
    They can't even qualify.....
    Those Fish & Chips fed , fat assed English soldiers....

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 11:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zethee

    9 Think: You are so thick. Neither the UK or the US is even on that crap list.

    Why would you even have that website? Googling crap just to try and(poorly) troll people.

    Seriously, you are a very sad old man.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    Jorge, you are a sick fcuk if you are trying to liken your disgusting regime to a peaceful democracy. Please just do the decent thing and kill yourself

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (21) Welsh Wizard
    You don't dissapoint me....
    You deserved that 30-3 ;-)

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    It is odd this is coming up, my Rgs friends in the USA have been saying the same thing...Military Rule is the only thing that can fix this horrible place.

    Argentinians are too stupid and corrupt to have a form of Democracy.

    They need a Pinochet to come in and clean house.
    It will probably take a generation or two to get it on the right track
    but wouldn't Rgs want a better life for their kids and grandkids?

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @23 Interesting. Soldiers aren't trained to be policemen. Or social workers. Or economists. Or businessmen. Although it is true that there are many instances of the military having to sort out the screw-ups that politicians make.

    I once read a story about what seemed to be a “perfect” political system. All persons in positions of power were required to wear a “chain of office”. All citizens had access to “voting booths” where they could register their “dissatisfaction” with office-holders. If the number of votes reached a pre-determined level, the appropriate “chain of office” exploded and blew the office-holder's head off!
    Wouldn't that be a good system for argieland?

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pirate Love

    @19 british and american army dont feel the need to prove their steel in a military version of its a knockout and takeshis castle....

    but getting back to the subject, nice to hear discontent brewing within argentina.

    SELF-DETERMINATION

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    Recently posted video of my favourite English politician owning an Oxonian Turnip….

    ”Think” what you are saying, young man….:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=caf_1363651685
    That little student reminds me of many of the Anglo Turnips in here (non mentioned-non forgotten)

    Chuckle chuckle©

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Argentina has no long-term LNG-supply contracts. Enarsa and YPF SA have issued four spot purchase tenders seeking as many as 93 cargoes from December last year.
    They're paying $17 while in the USA we are paying $4 no wonder their economy is failing and mfg is coming back to the USA.
    I don't think this huge gas imports can be balanced out by SOY this year.
    So where oh where will they get teh U$ they need to buy it?
    Iran? maybe some if the USA allows it
    Arg citizens bank accounts...likely but not enough
    CFK's stolen fortune...never
    IADB/WB...I don't see them disbursing anything anytime soon

    Does anyone else hear the wheels grinding to a halt...I'm 13 hrs away by plane and it's clear as a bell here.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Be serious

    22
    And if you do take 21's advice could you arrange for it to be filmed and posted here. I believe its not too late for comic relief.
    Perhaps you could wear a red nose.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    ““Kirchnerism continues plunging Argentina into the anachronistic abyss of Marxism” said former dictator Jorge Videla”

    I don't know about that Jorge.

    How about:

    “Kirchnerism continues plunging Argentina into the anachronistic abyss of Kirchnerism”.

    Different name, same disease, same cure.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fbear

    Jorge is delusional. Pity any media would givd him a platform, no matter how bad CFK is at her job.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    23
    I agree, I've even heard many Uruguayans in Uruguay say that's what Argentina needs.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Viscount Falkland

    What Argentina needs ,is to be governed by Britain....

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero 601

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    Mar 19th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Orbit

    @33 Hi Sussie. How are the chalfonts today?

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (33) Artillero

    Are you still ”Fit for Fight?
    Can you still run one of these under 4:30 min?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-7heqU2T68

    Viva la Patria, indeed...
    And may Videla and his gang rot in prision.

    Piadosos saludos
    El Think

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @26/35
    You still aren't aware of Britain are you? After all you call a Scottish RESPECT Party politician English. I think the only Turnip here is you.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • toxictaxitrader2

    There will be a vote this year and we shall see if the Argentinian people will be their usual foolish and gullible selves ,if they are well thats a thousand times better than a blood soaked psychopath like Videla having power .
    Bye the way THINK you seem to think I,m a Brit I ,m Irish(eire)

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (37) toxictaxitrader2
    That's why some of your comments are not so turnipy.............;-)

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conor J

    @38
    Not going to bother commenting on what I said then? Thats your usual behaviour when you yourself act like a complete Turnip.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Jorge Rafael Videla
    The man speaks with straight tongue,
    And with experience,

    A bad man he may be,
    But CFK should take note, and learn from their mistakes,

    Or she will almost certainly be next,

    Her time is running out,
    And without her invisible victory,
    It might be sooner than she thinks.

    Her best mate has croaked it,
    Her holy pope will abandon her,
    The Falklands alludes her,
    She has nothing left in the kitty.
    m

    .

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    $8.25/1U$...Holy Crap! $0.20 decline in ONE DAY!!
    If that happened in a civilized country there would be panic in the streets!
    Why don't these Rgs care?
    Are they too stupid to understand that most of their economy is ultimately paid in U$?

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 08:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • MagnusMaster

    @23 we tried that, didn't work. Dictators are even worse than our current politicians.

    Mar 19th, 2013 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jerry olsen

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    Mar 19th, 2013 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Isolde_68

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 20th, 2013 - 01:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anglotino

    @44 Sussie don't project!

    Mar 20th, 2013 - 03:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    33 Artillero 601
    I am not sure what you said because your comment is not longer there.
    I am sure you said Jorge and friends rot in jail before hell.

    Mar 20th, 2013 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero 601

    @35 Mr Think, in my glorious days , I did the obstacle course in 3:15 . To the question “ Am I fit to fight for my country, the answer is always ! and to die for her anytime ....

    @46 I said ” Viva la Patria” Marcos, a concept that you should learn more often :-)

    Mar 20th, 2013 - 01:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Gordo1

    Is “THINK” actually capable of “thinking”?

    Mar 20th, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    47 Artillero 601
    Dear Pomi
    In your young years you were able to put a 155 mm projectile on a target 20 Km away on a single shot, they say.
    You did that obstacle course in 3:15, you say.
    And now a cebar mates a Jorge en cana, I say.
    Viva la Patria y saludos.

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 03:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (47) Artillero 601

    3:15 minutes......................... not bad!
    I wasn't expecting any less from you.
    A perfect “Soldado de la Patria”.
    In wich Patria was that, btw?
    Buenos Aires or Tejas?

    Anyhow in the spirit of Jesuitic reconciliation........
    What do you “Think” about the beatification of that dead commie friar?
    Ordered by that other dead commie, Monseñor Enrique Angelelli.
    You are, after all, a Menendez.
    You may know something.

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    Despicable comments from a truly evil man, glad some of the anti-Cristinistas are keeping a sense of perspective and can see that; of course there's no hope for the likes of yankeeboy it seems...

    #26 Brilliant Think, I really enjoyed that. “You can't be a student at Oxford and say that” reminded me of another great leader who said “Are you really at Harvard?!” =)

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero 601

    @49 Marquitos , nice chatting with you again . Me say ? there is a public record on what I say in the CMN's archives , you are welcome to check it out :-))

    @50 Mr Think, the moment that all the “montos” ( with jobs in the current administration) are sentenced for the crimes committed in the 70's, THEN you and I can share some vital information from the past

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    @52
    ” the moment that all the “montos” ( with jobs in the current administration) are sentenced for the crimes committed in the 70's, THEN you and I can share some vital information from the past”

    Well said.

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (52) Artillero 601

    The law doesn't work this way, milico.
    An assasin can't just refuse its punishment until all other criminals are caught.

    Funny to see though that the only backing you seem to ever get in these pages comes from British extremists that would gladly blowyour beloved Fatherland to pieces....

    Or from Shilenos as (53), your favourite neighbors, I recall.
    He should just know how close you, personally, were in 1982 :-)))

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Condorito

    “An assasin can't just refuse its punishment until all other criminals are caught.”

    Right. And a political class can't just harbor assassins because they sympathize with their political tendencies (or friends al Sergio Galvarino Apablaza Guerra).

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero 601

    @54

    There is only ONE law Mr Think , funny you say that and apparently in “our” beloved country , justice works for the ones who wore uniforms ONLY ( juicios express ? in 5 minutes you ended up in jail for laws that didn't exist back then ) . The manipulation of history, the politics of “ clientelismo” , the milking of the “ Human rights” ( it became a business already if you don't believe me ask Hebe about it ) , I can go on and on and on .... How is the dollar anyways ? inflation at 33% ? I love “ El modelo” already !!

    @53 Thanks !! you know very well what I'm talking about , look at Chile now and look at us ..... :-)

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    56 Artillero 601

    A yorar a la iglesia
    Miliquin de Bachin....

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero 601

    @57 :-)

    Once a Gorila, always a Gorila !!! Can we get the tanks out now ? assuming we have enough diesel to get to “ La Rosada” ??? :-)))))

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    58 Artillero 601

    The diesel would be the least of your problems....
    Getting that fat Taco Bell behind of yours through the hatch, on the other hand....

    Mar 21st, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    58 You got that right Pomi
    ”Once a Gorila, always a Gorila !!!

    Like Think said baja la panza :-))
    Can you still dance?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6V1DSAbv2s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6V1DSAbv2s

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (60) Marcos Alejandro

    Artillero 601: Gorilla and Boca supporter.
    Haga Patria.................... Deporte un Bostero.
    The Pope may be a Cuervo......... but God is Gallina!
    Viva River..................................................... Carajo!

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 05:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero 601

    @60 jajajaja !!!

    @61 Gorilla yes ! , bostero never !! soy gallina Think :-)

    Changing the subject , how is the re election coming along ?

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    61 Think
    I am afraid you are wrong, Pomi is gallina komo uste :-)))
    Y esa falla? :-)

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    LRPMQLRP !!!
    In every family there is a black sheep..
    In every gorilla is a human streak.
    Pomi is indeed our dark sheep...
    Being Millonario is his redeeming streak..

    What re-re election?
    That story is as dead as J.A.M.D.H.
    A Diós gracias

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero 601

    @63 & @ 64

    the re election of CFK ?

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (65) Artillero601

    Try to keep with the rest.

    The re election of CFK is a No Go.

    It is definitely dead, compreihende?

    ThePresident herself killed it the other day.

    No Constitutional Reform will be forwarded by the present administration.

    You know what the Constitution is?

    That piece of paper you milicos used to wipe your ass with.

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #64, 66 Perhaps a little hasty Think? I know its nice to give an absolute retort to these right wingers, but surely the reason they keep banging on about re-election is that it scares them? In which case would it not be better for our side if Cristina changes her mind =) Certainly better than handing over to Scioli or maybe Boudou (if he is the orthodox factioneer you have feared he is) to undo all her good work!

    So I suppose my comradely question from afar, as a leftist inspired by Crsitina in a country I would dearly like to have its own leftist President (our mutually admired Mr Galloway perhaps!) or at least something a bit more credible than the Osbourne set, is what next? If your right and there's no change on re-election, can Cristina transfer her authority to another candidate, like Lula did with Dilma, or as Chavez did in appointing Maduro just before he died? And if so who could it be? I can't believe that after all the progress rgentina has made, and Cristina's ever deepening radicalism over the press, the judiciary etc, that a conservative Peronist could simply swoop in to the Presidency by default, let alone with any kind of support from Cristina and/or her movement?

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (67) British_Kirchnerist

    The right wingers in Argentina keep banging about the re-election of Cristina because they have based ALL their campaing and policies against her personally.
    Without her, they don't have a clue about what to do or where to go or who to attack.

    Cristina has, wisely, decided to step aside and let the process continue.

    Lula/Dilma should definitely be THE example to follow for the Peronists.

    Let's hope for a “Dilma”

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 01:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You are correct stink, without asslips, the opposition would never be galvanized. ANd Dilma and kirchner are classic examples of peronists/communist. February closed really well for argentina.
    Why does a peronist/communist hate working middleclass?
    Apparently she admitted she stopped imports because now she is threatening to open imports.....lol.
    Stocks are down
    peso is overvalued by as much as 60%
    businesses are leaving and executives are leaving in the night
    There is no extra soy to save the day
    Auto production down 2.3% yoy
    overall industrial output don 2.4% yoy
    Exporters are losing the ability to export because they cannot import raw materials
    I know many business people in BsAs where the elevators in the buildings have been shot for almost a year because they cannot get parts imported
    Medicine is nearing catastrophic levels, only matters if you have cancer, diabetes or a kidney disease
    Argentina must be the only country to steal, mean expropriate a business and less than a year later, negotiate to partner with the company they stole from.
    Hey.....did you see the pink house last night without electricity?....during dinner....lol
    Peronist .....not even the rest of SA that is serious want to deal with argentina. She is like the crazy aunt they want to keep in the basement.

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #68 “Cristina has, wisely, decided to step aside and let the process continue”

    Well I just hope the process will continue, which will require a Kirchnerist or even a transversal left, but not any old Peronist and certainly not Scioli

    “Lula/Dilma should definitely be THE example to follow for the Peronists.

    Let's hope for a “Dilma””

    Any idea who the Dilma might be? Any preferance yourself? (I think Timmerman, Kiccilof or Alicia Castro would be great)

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 08:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (70) British_Kirchnerist

    With “Process” i mean the “Democratic Process” not the “Current Administration Process”.

    No idea who the Argentinean “Dilma” will be.
    Way too early to tell.
    This is Argentina ;-)

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #71 “With “Process” i mean the “Democratic Process” not the “Current Administration Process”.”

    in which case does

    “Cristina has, wisely, decided to step aside and let the process continue”

    mean that to try and reform the constitution would have provoked a coup? In which case that suggest there are still powerful anti-democratic forces that she and her supporters need to smash, whoever stands in the next election...

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    (72) British_Kirchnerist '

    You read too much from my words.....
    If I wanted to say that there is any risk for a Military Coup in Argentina, I would say so....
    There is, in my humble opinion, no risk for a Military Coup in Argentina....
    But hastily reforming the Constitution to allow a Re-re election of Cristina would have seriously damaged the image of democracy in Argentina and given the still powerful anti-democratic forces some much needed ammunition for their retrograde discourse.

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #73 Yes was probably jumping to conclusions there mate, sorry =( In my defence I didn't want to see you as saying a constitutionl change would itself be an interruption of the democratic process, as the right allege; that REALLY would have been jumping to conclusions! Your point about the tactical risks of what would now have to be a hasty change may well be right...

    Sadly so to me though, for a number of reasons; the Menem era constitution shouldn't be sacrosant - Chavez and Correa have completely “refounded the republic” in their countries which is I think a good idea (just founding one in my country of course would be a start!); secondly I don't believe in term limits in principle, never have even before the debates about Chavez, the fact Roosevelt was able to stand for a third term went a long way to saving the world from Hitler (and the Republicans Party then amended the constitution soon after to stop it happening again!) and no British leader has been term limited; finally I do think if she wants to go on and the people still want to elect her Cristina should have the same right as any other citizen to be President, and in my opinion towers over all the competition, as well as most other world leaders.

    World politics will be a duller place without her, even in faraway Britain; but on the plus side many former Presidents in the past have become ambassadors to “major” countries, so she could maybe swap jobs with Alicia =)

    Anyway I know its too early to tell who the “Dilma” could be, its proabbly tactically best for Cristina to keep her options open for as long as possible, but is there anyone you (and other comrades like Axel etc) would partiularly LIKE it to be. I like Timmerman and Castro myself =)

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    ”he fact Roosevelt was able to stand for a third term went a long way to saving the world from Hitler (and the Republicans Party then amended the constitution soon after to stop it happening again!)“

    Asswiper BK if you are going to recite American history, get it right. The Federal Government in the USA cannot change the constitution alone. Republicans introduced bills that were signed into law by Harry S. Truman......a liberal Democrat. And more importantly, the feds cannot change the American Constitution without ratification or 75% of the states. You think 75% of the USA were Republicans? States have more power to yea or nay the change. It called States Rights.....that too is in our Constitution.

    BK....as always, reciting bits and pieces of truth that fits your points. Blind hatred of anyone that thinks other than you, calling anything that thinks different the ”right”. At least you use the correct word.....RIGHT.

    Oh yes and BTW, Roosevelt won a 4th election in office of the President.

    Get it right or do not recite it.

    Communist education at it's best.

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #75 Well the fact that Roosevelt won not only a 3rd but a 4th election strengthens my case, not yours. Just a shame that he couldn't live to serve almost any of it =( And yes the ratification process is as you described, but as you admit it was a Republican measure to make sure there would be no new Roosevelt ever again. Until then it was a convention not to serve any longer than the two terms Washington had sought and won; others tried to break the convention but failed to be elected (as would sutrely happen to Cristina if she's as hated as you say, so why are you so worried?!), Roosevelt broke it successfully in order to beat the isolationists and respond effectively to the global crisis. In principle I favour this kind of democratic flexibility over an arbitrary two term limit

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Many Republican measures fail as well. They want an amendment for marriage to be only man and women........it will never happen...ever. Marriage is a state issue, not a federal issue. Even if they passed a bill...it would only pass in the House and never make it through Senate. If it did, would have to be signed by the President. And that would never get signed. If it did, 38 state legislative bodies would have to sign it. My point is, it takes more than one party to change the constitution. The 22nd Amendment would NOT have been pushed to the states (vast majority of state congresses were Democrats in 47/48) unless a Democratic President Truman signed it into law. So what point did I prove to you? I believe you stated your opinion in term limits, not a case or argument. He could have vetoed it as Congress did not have a veto proof majority. Don't try and rewrite my country's history. We like and treasure term limits because we understand that democracy is not a person. Washington saw serving in government as an obligation like serving in the military.......he could have served to his death, but felt it was bad for democracy and would be viewed no different than a King( No offense to the Brits). Eight years for the the most powerful man in the world, (whether you agree or not...he is), is enough for one man to have all that power and most all American's agree. I think you have a limited idea of American politics AND processes. States have the power in constitutional amendments in the USA. We still have 4 amendments pending with states that go back to 1789. It's the states way of say....“no way, we are not even bringing it to a vote”. It's not pushed down anyone's throat through a one sided federal government.
    By the way, as you said, the Republicans made sure they had no more Roosevelts, it also insured their own party was held to two terma as well, you seem to ignore both sides of the equation. You make it appear it only affects one party.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 04:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fillooooo

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #77 Good explanantion of why America wanted term limits; of course Argentina may chose a different path - and of course Cristina is alas not the most powerful person in the world =( Still its a good that the ammendment didn't exist in 1940, allowing Roosevelt to break Washington's convention in order to save the world from Hitler, no?! I just hope that whether through a 3rd Cristina term or a loyal replacement, Argentina can continue to be safe from the IMF and the vultures...

    Mar 25th, 2013 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Argentina took the benefits of receiving money and defaulted and still refuses to fit into the world. They are not and will always pay the piper.

    Mar 25th, 2013 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fillooooo

    #80 Captain Poppy
    Come on....forget it about argieland...
    why don't you something about your “country” “the usa”
    jijiji
    2012 tax returns delays
    applications for SSI Disability= 6 mo. to 12 months delays
    applications for Veterans Disability= 12 to 18 months delays
    applications for SSI Retirement=9 months delays
    goverment offices don't answer phone calls after 11:30 am
    see the USA debt clock ticking?
    poor “food stamp Obama” !

    Mar 25th, 2013 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Looks like it might be starting

    http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/127187/boudous-motorcade-attacked-in-quito-ecuadorean-govt-says

    Mar 25th, 2013 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero 601

    @66

    You know what the Constitution is? Yes , I have a vague knowledge about that :-))

    Mar 25th, 2013 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Artillero 602

    @63 & 64

    http://www.mendozatransparente.com.ar/noticias/losdecretosdeaniquilamientodelasubversiondelgobiernoperonista

    do you remenber this one ? ( o sea , nosotros no la inventamos, vio ? )

    Mar 25th, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #82 So the Argentine masses are rising up violently - but only against their VP, and only in Ecuador?!

    Mar 25th, 2013 - 07:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    Good God man....you should be in Hollywood with your use of hyperbole. Where do I say ANYWHERE the masses are rising? Is it just you or all communists over react?

    Mar 25th, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • British_Kirchnerist

    #86 “Where do I say ANYWHERE the masses are rising?”

    In which case what's your point?! “Its the beggining of”...what exactly???

    Mar 26th, 2013 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    You are useless. Can't answer a question straight so dodge, digress and divert. Have you been to Argentina lately? Seen the shelves in the stores? Seen anything in your beloved country?.....how's Yulena?

    Mar 26th, 2013 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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