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Falkland Islands Referendum, White Puffs of Smoke?

Friday, March 22nd 2013 - 14:22 UTC
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By Professor Klaus Dodds & Dr Alasdair Pinkerton - The celebrations on Arch Green, outside the Falkland Islands’ Stanley Cathedral, on Monday 11 March, revealed the strength of emotion and passion that has circulated around this referendum process, ever since it was announced in June 2012. Read full article

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  • Gordo1

    Kretina - take note!

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    Not for one minute would Argentina allow a referendum on remotely held islands. Not a bloody chance, by jove!

    Keep Calm the Brits are Having a Referendum...

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    The fact of the matter is that Argentina have talked, gambled, war'd and blockaded themselves out of ever having any say: until they change their own attitudes.

    They do, after all, only have to convince 1500 people, not the entire world.

    How hard would that have been if only they could be peaceful & pleasant?

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    No fireworks just in case rg's got twitchy about big bangs, “ those nasty islanders have been firing rockets. We see this as a direct threat to rgenweener those things could have someone's eye out and scare dogs and cats, this is a clear case of militarising the south Atlantic and we insist NATO helps us”. Numpties!!!!!

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Any illegal act is punishible by law. So if the referendum was illegal by what statute and how can this 'illegal act be punished?'

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marcos Alejandro

    What referendum?

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • fill00000

    cfk wants marcos alejandro to trim her bush

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Xect

    Marcos, go back to sleep! It seems the world was watching but you missed it (not surprising really).

    I'm going to guess that was because CFK or some element of her government blocked access almost in the same way INDEC statistics are censored.

    I always wonder why INDEC employ so many people when one person makes the number up at the end of each month?

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @7sussie

    you boludo

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Not white puffs of smoke. Those would be noticed outside the islands...

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @10 white flags would be noticed in rgenweener AGAIN

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    11
    You'll wish a white flag could assure your pension, or your kids if you are old enough. No matter how much you wave, you won't steer that Titanic out of course. All us Latinos have to do is wait. I'll wave one for you.

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Stevie Join the union, Jack!

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • CaptainSilver

    Hahaha.. brave words from the white flag specialists. Many revolutions per minute whilst retreating at high speed like their Italian ancestors.

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Aparently this item will be deleted from from argentinas history,
    and not added to any school books,

    because CFK did not get it her way,
    then it simply did not exist or indeed take place.

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ChrisReynolds

    keep the falk=slum=lands in british arse holes where they belong!

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 10:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Celina

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @7 Sussie

    Ha ha - you made fun of “Marcos Alejandro ” !!!

    He's one of you Troll Boludos !!!

    LOL!! /////// ja ja ja ja ja , Sussie!!!!

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    For a referendum that was “illegal” of a people who don’t actually exist, and if they did wouldn’t have any right anyway, as they are implanted, according to Argentinians with names like Timerman and Fernandez de ,wot, Atawalpha???.

    Lot of fuss!!

    @6 Marcos Alejandro
    “What referendum?” Exactly, what people, what rights, what price your soul.

    Of course now it’s easy for you to get a dispensation, a few “Hail Marys” and your clean again. You think!!!!!

    @sussieUS
    Ahh sussie, back again and still drinking the furniture polish I see, and still trying to ingratiate yourself with the Anglos. Try being nice!!! If you can????

    @12 Stevie
    “All us Latinos have to do is wait”

    Yep, it’s called a “long wait” you just keep waiting until we say, “is that long enough, or would you like to wait some more”.

    @16 ChrisReynolds
    “slum”!!!, they are “a shit load richer” than the rest of S America, not to mention Argentina, and with much less in the way of resources.

    You could learn a lot from them, but then you could learn a lot from almost anybody.

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Sussies in all its guieses hasnt been on for a while. I think apart from its night employment it is acarpenter by day, specialising in tongue and groove joinery

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @20redpoll

    “Sussie ” is 'Celina' and 'Chris Reynolds' recently.

    yawn, wake me of he ever says anything interesting.

    zzzzzz zzzzzz zzzz zzz zzzz

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Troy It never says much of interest but sticks it Pr*ck or Cl*t on any discussion

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 04:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Conqueror

    @6 The one you've just been reading about! See. We've got you pegged!
    @10 By who? Certainly not you. You wouldn't “see” it even if we punched your nose. Still nursing that “cut lip” from '82? Or are you upset by the “No Trespassing” sign?
    @12 Already got my pension, thanks. Awarded in gratitude for the number of “latinos” I sent to prison.
    @16,17 The slug has managed to think of two sentences.

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    14 CaptainSilver (#)
    Mar 22nd, 2013 - 08:05 pm

    “... whilst retreating at high speed like their Italian ancestors.”

    I plead forgiveness for going off topic, but this is apposite to ypur comment, Captain:

    I read in a book about the North African campaign, about a very young Flight Lieutenant acompanied by a Flight Sergeant who were looking for an advanced airfield in the desert, when they topped a sand dune and found themselves in front of an Italian armoured brigade whose CO immediately surrendered to the dumb struck Flight Lieutenant!!!!!!

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Simon again off topic. Yes General Erwin Rommel ( A man I much admire) knew all about the calibre of his Italian allies in North Africa. As a young lieutenat in WW1 he knocked seven bells out of them

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    25
    You admire a Nazi? Who would've thought...

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • briton

    Back on blogg,
    White Puffs of Smoke?
    Seen over CFK house,
    Justa matter of time,
    Stir stir,.
    .

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Celina

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 07:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Stevie my child
    Rommel wasnt a Nazi anymore than Landdorff of the Graf Spee was. Rommel was made to take poison for his plot against Hitler.
    Perhaps your own Fascist dictator Juan Domingo Peron should have done the same and be laid to rest with his darling Evita. But he didnt did he ?and married for the second time a go-go dancer from Tucuman who as Presidenta led your nation into a very dirty dictatorship

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 07:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    redpoll, m'ijo
    Who forced him to fight for the Nazi cause?

    Mar 23rd, 2013 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Who forced ALL of Germany to fight for their country under the Nazi's ??

    Rommel is noted for his resistance to Hitler and he died for it as a man of principle.

    Peron openly embraced Hitler and his cronies, offering them sanctuary at the end of the war.
    Peron and Argentina profited handsomely from Hitler's war, selling hoods to both sides, while he extorted money and wealth from those seeking asylum from the war in Europe.
    Here is the real story of 'your' Biro:

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/arts-and-life/entertainment/books/politics-human-intrigue-flow-through-ballpoint-pens-history-ink-stained-story-165829326.html?device=mobile

    “Swirling within and around the arc of these two lives, Moldova illustrates how citizenship and nationalism can be used in conjunction with patent laws and international/national corporate capitalism to peel away from individual innovators and entrepreneurs their ownership of intellectual property.
    For example, Bíró handed over a sizable percentage of his shares to his Argentine partners to free his family from fascist Hungary.”

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Stevie
    Military men such as Rommel are dedicated to the service of thier country whatever the politics. Different from recent Latam where miltary think they know best and meddle in politics
    Which flag did Hans Langsdorf wrap himself in before he committed suicide in a Buenos Aires hotel?
    I even have a sneaking regard for Gen Benjamin Menendez. He could have turned Stanley into a charnel house in a last ditch defence of the town but he didnt

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 03:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    But of course you lot defend nazi's. What did I expect...

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @33
    Of course we must not forget all those brave Argentinians who fought against the Nazi's.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    So you lot defend the Nazi's because... Argentinians didn't fight against them? I fail to see your point.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @35
    No one is defending Hitler or the Nazi cause never mind how much you would like to twist what is being said.

    However the same cannot be said for Argentina and their defence of the Nazis, in fact we all know what a safe have Argentina was for the Nazis.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    ”Yes General Erwin Rommel ( A man I much admire)“

    ”Rommel is noted for his resistance to Hitler and he died for it as a man of principle”

    Rommel was a great warfarer, that's it, and the fact that you lot glorify killing instead of principles has made you to twist history so you can have another professional killer to admire. Rommel was a Nazi, and you are defending a Nazi. It's not me twisting anything being said. I'm copying and pasting.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @37
    I and many others have not said that they admired Rommel, so yes you are twisting what is being said.

    However the same cannot be said for Argentina and their defence of the Nazis, in fact we all know what a safe haven Argentina was for the Nazis.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    38
    I never twisted any words, as I said, I copy and pasted. If you feel struck, there must be a reason.
    Have you heard any Argentine here defending the Nazi's?
    On the other side you have redpoll, black on white, admiring Rommel and Troy Tempest trying to adjust history to defend him.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    @37 What do you lot know about principles? Remember a guy called Shickelgruber who launched an unprovoked attack on Poland in 1939? Or those three sadists Galtieri, Anaya and Brigadier Lambsy Darry who did the same in 1982 against the Falkland Islands?
    I abhor war but it happens and people suffer and get killed
    Perhaps you should read Admiral Doveton Sturdees message to the senior German surviving officer Commander Pochhammer after the Battle of the Falklands
    As for Rommel heres a quote
    “ We have a very daring and skillfull opponent against us, and, may I say across the havoc of war - a great general”
    A speech in the House of Commons in 1944 by none other than Winston Churchill
    Now Stevie you can now twist your argument and say that he was a Nazi too

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    redpoll
    A nazi can be daring, skillful and a great general. It doesn't mean you have to admire him. Hitler was daring, good with words and not at all stupid, you admire him too?

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    NO I do not
    He is in the same box as your Juan Domingo Peron, Franco, Galtieri, Pinochet and others of that ilk
    But lots of similarities with Argentina.
    Crisssy got elected by the Argentine people. So did Hitler.
    That fat Marshall Goering was very proud of his Blue Max medal. Argentina now has a blue dollar and a fat Max.
    Your foriegn minister bears a remarkable resemblance to Goebbels who to quote the ribald song of the time had noballs at all
    To refresh your memory
    ”Hitler has only got one ball
    Goering has two but ones too small
    Himmler is somewhat simlar and
    Poor old Goebells
    Has no balls
    at all

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 03:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @stevie

    “On the other side you have redpoll, black on white, admiring Rommel and Troy Tempest trying to adjust history to defend him”

    Show me how I have 'adjusted' history.
    You can't.

    Admiring some of the qualities in a man, his skills as an opponent, and respect as a General, does not mean one respects or admires the Nazi ideology.

    I despise the Nazi's, their deeds, and what they stand for.
    Do you?
    I'm waiting to hear a clear, definite answer on that.
    “Yes” or “No”??? Just so as we are clear.

    Our countries, the Allies, clearly, committedly, wholeheartedly, and unambiguously fought against the Nazi's, Nazi Germany, Hitler, and his architects of genocide, ethnic-cleansing, destruction, enslavement, and domination of Europe.

    What did Argentina and Peron do?
    They fed the Nazi's.
    They offered them sanctuary after the war, sharing the spoils of war with hunted war criminals - Mengela, Eichmann?? Ring any bells???

    Argentina seems to have admired the Nazi's enough to have embraced many of their Nationalist Socialist policies in your government today.

    - Hitler Youth - la Campora and other disaffected and underemployed groups of thugs to intimidate the public, disseminate propaganda, silence protest, intimidate foreigners and foreign business - do you remember your own 'Kristal Nacht ' - the shattering of windows at the cruise office??
    How about the swarming of the elderly cruise passengers in BA??
    - CFK and the Peronists stage extravagant Nationalist rallies, Nuremburg anyone???
    - CFK is working hard to limit the power of the press and Free
    Speech through legislation and the Judiciary
    - CFK is doing her best to denounce and intimidate those Judges that question or disagree with her.
    - Genocide - what is happening to your Amerindians?
    - “unsolved” AMIA attack against BA Jews
    - Political propaganda by government for your 'Sudetenland' - the Falklands
    - massive socialist propaganda campaign
    - more...

    Hitler would be proud of you!!!

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    ||

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Troy
    I despise the Nazi's, their ideology, Hitler AND Rommel.
    And I don't try to come up with excuses to defend them.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Stevie

    NONE of us are defending the Nazi's or admiring them.

    YOU are at great pains, however, to say that we are.

    Our, the Allies, US, UK, Commonwealth etc. history and logic show clearly that we do not and did not support their ideology and their actions.

    However, you, the Argentinan Peronists did actively emulate them and support them during the war and gleefully took their stolen wealth after the war, in exchange for sanctuary, and prominent positions in employment and society in Argentina. You sheltered them from international prosecution.

    Now Argentinian Peronists under CFK are using many of the fascist tools of the National Socialist Party to control your country and your people, as I outlined at length in another thread.

    Peronists look a lot like the Nazi's that Juan Peron admired aided and abetted.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Troy
    Juan Peron isn't commenting on MP, but you and redpoll are. Continue dressing the nazi's in the outfits you seem fit, they're still nazi's.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Stevie you one of Fat Maxes Campora kids?
    Once that you have served your pupose for Madam Crissy as Brownshirts you will be put up against a wall and shot just like your predeccesor Kapitan Roehm

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @32
    I have a sneaking regard for Margaret Thatcher, she could have turned Buenos Aires into a smoking ruin , but she didn't

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    Want to play the “NAZI”card, English Turnips?
    Here’s my NAZI card, English Turnips…
    Royal NAZI Flush, English Turnips…

    ”WHEN Harry appeared in Nazi uniform it left the rest of his family suddenly looking naked. In an instant, years of painstaking effort to smooth over the royals' past were stripped away as memories and suspicions of royal links to Hitler's Germany were resurrected.
    It was only in 1917 that George V, worried by the anti-German feeling caused by the first world war, ordered the royal family to scrap Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and Wettin for Windsor.
    However, more embarrassing than names the length of a bus are the family's links to Nazi Germany. The duke is Greek and some of his relatives sympathised with the Nazis; others joined them.
    One brother-in-law, Prince Christoph of Hesse, was a member of the SS and flew fighters that attacked allied troops in Italy. In fact, so many of Philip's relatives had Nazi links that when he married Princess Elizabeth he was severely limited on the guests he could invite.
    George VI and his wife, the late Queen Mother sent birthday greetings to Hitler weeks before Germany invaded Poland.
    More notoriously, his brother, the former King Edward VIII, who became the Duke of Windsor after abdicating in 1936, was sympathetic towards Hitler. Even in 1970 he told one interviewer: “I never thought Hitler was such a bad chap.”
    The duke and his wife, Wallis Simpson, had visited Germany in 1937 and were taken to meet the Führer. When they left, Hitler said of Simpson: “She would have made a good Queen.”
    Other royals also had links to the Nazis. Baron Gunther von Reibnitz, the father of Princess Michael of Kent, was a party member and an honorary member of the SS. And the brother of Princess Alice, a great-aunt to the Queen, was a Nazi who said that Hitler had done a “wonderful job”.
    http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/01/Royal_Nazis.html

    Keep kissing Royal NAZI arse…English Turnips.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    @50
    Have you bought those shares in the FALKLAND ISLANDS yet. I understand that Premier Oil are going to drill 3-6 wells in 2014. What happened to your President taking legal action against all the Oil Companies drilling for oil in the FALKLANDS? Where is she taking them to court, which jurisdiction is that?

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @50 Think
    Even for you this is a pathetic post.

    You place all your trust in a known Holocaust denier David Irving.

    Irving, surmised Professor Evans, had deliberately distorted and wilfully mistranslated documents, consciously used discredited testimony and falsified historical statistics.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4449948.stm

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    The article I linked to in my comment (50) was written by Richard Woods

    But thanks for mentioning Mr. David Irving........ Turnip at (52)
    Yet another British NAZI....
    You full of them.

    Keep kissing Royal NAZI arse…English Turnips.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @47 Stevie

    Juan Peron is not on MP, as you say, but as an example of an Argentine-Nazi Sympathiser/Profiteer, his actions speak louder than words:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/04/international/americas/04argent.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/04/international/americas/04argent.html

    Carlos Menem attempts to recover stolen Nazi gold:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/04/international/americas/04argent.html

    Evita rounds up the stragglers (and their money) in 1947 and takes them to Argentina

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/04/international/americas/04argent.html

    @53 think

    Did you kiss Peron's Nazi ass, personally???

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Troy
    Juan Peron was a dubious character, Menem a common criminal.
    What's your point?

    Does this mean Hummel was admirable?

    I really fail to see your point here.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @stevie
    “Troy
    Juan Peron was a dubious character, Menem a common criminal.
    What's your point?”

    Stevie,
    that is exactly my point - Peron IS a “dubious character” and a Fascist and an admirer of the NAZI's - all the things you accuse us of being.

    He is also ARGENTINIAN and it is his values and principles that the current PERONISTS emulate, utilising the same tools to manipulate the populace.

    ie. they are morally bereft.

    In contrast, us, the UK, Canada, USA, Aussies, etc. have very much shown that we are opposed to NAZI's and other Fascists like Mussolini and Franco, who were complicit with HITLER and in the same sentence, your PERON, a hero of ARGENTINA.

    Carlos Menem, a “criminal”??
    It is obvious you did not read anything in those links that I posted.

    You choose to regard the Peron Nazi's as heroes, and Menem a “criminal”, yet it was Menem that established an Argentine mechanism to try to re-unite the Jewish refugees with their property and wealth that the Nazi's had stolen.

    Very clearly, we are NOT the Nazi's, fascists or thieves that you yourselves model yourselves after.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    @53 the great turnip think

    Another well published journalist Richard Woods.

    Your link was directed to David Irving's own site, the article itself had images and captions added by the website.

    David Irving comments:

    THUS, four days late, The Sunday Times, London, though without acknowledgment, picks up the threads of the story I revealed on January 13 --

    “Keep kissing Royal NAZI arse…English Turnips.”
    - your sussie sock puppet is escaping - surely you meant to post this later under a different screen name !

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    TWIMC

    Want to play the “NAZI”card, English Turnips?
    Here’s my NAZI card, English Turnips…
    Royal NAZI Flush, English Turnips…

    ”WHEN Harry appeared in Nazi uniform it left the rest of his family suddenly looking naked. In an instant, years of painstaking effort to smooth over the royals' past were stripped away as memories and suspicions of royal links to Hitler's Germany were resurrected.
    It was only in 1917 that George V, worried by the anti-German feeling caused by the first world war, ordered the royal family to scrap Saxe-Coburg-Gotha and Wettin for Windsor.
    However, more embarrassing than names the length of a bus are the family's links to Nazi Germany. The duke is Greek and some of his relatives sympathised with the Nazis; others joined them.
    One brother-in-law, Prince Christoph of Hesse, was a member of the SS and flew fighters that attacked allied troops in Italy. In fact, so many of Philip's relatives had Nazi links that when he married Princess Elizabeth he was severely limited on the guests he could invite.
    George VI and his wife, the late Queen Mother sent birthday greetings to Hitler weeks before Germany invaded Poland.
    More notoriously, his brother, the former King Edward VIII, who became the Duke of Windsor after abdicating in 1936, was sympathetic towards Hitler. Even in 1970 he told one interviewer: “I never thought Hitler was such a bad chap.”
    The duke and his wife, Wallis Simpson, had visited Germany in 1937 and were taken to meet the Führer. When they left, Hitler said of Simpson: “She would have made a good Queen.”
    Other royals also had links to the Nazis. Baron Gunther von Reibnitz, the father of Princess Michael of Kent, was a party member and an honorary member of the SS. And the brother of Princess Alice, a great-aunt to the Queen, was a Nazi who said that Hitler had done a “wonderful job”.

    http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/05/01/Royal_Nazis.html

    Keep kissing Royal NAZI arse…English Turnips.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 09:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Troy
    What on earth are you talking about?
    When have I ever said anything good about Juan Peron? Or anything at all other than him being a dubious character?

    You are the one dressing Hummel in white and now you say that I defend Peron, hence Hummel was a admirable?

    Obviously, you know nothing about Peronism, and I don't blame you. Being a Peronist says very little about a persons ideology other than he is a Peronist. And I'm certainly no Peronist.

    Try again.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • agent999

    Hey you big old turnip - no need to throw your toys out of your pram!

    You can repeat the same old rubbish as long as you want from “The International Campaign for Real History”, it just shows that you have so little of any real worth to say.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @stevie

    You have insistently accused us of being Nazis and admiring Nazis.

    Yet our history, Constitutions, politics, and core values are absolutely opposed to Nazi's.

    On the other hand, your history shows that your society and government warmly embraced them as evidenced by your former President, Peron, and his wife, a heroine of the people and your current government's President. They share the same values.

    Your current government still calls themselves Peronists, for a reason, and they use many of the same tools to influence the people, and seem to share the same values as Peron and the Nazi's.

    As you point the finger at us, I am using Peron and CFK to show the difference between your core values and ours.

    Is that clear, or will you continue to play 'silly buggars'?

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Troy
    I'm no government, and I don't represent any country, especially not of your choice.

    redpoll posted:
    ”Yes General Erwin Rommel ( A man I much admire)“

    you posted:
    ”Rommel is noted for his resistance to Hitler and he died for it as a man of principle”

    You two call a nazi for “admirable” and “a man of principles”.

    I'm not accusing anyone of anything, those are YOUR words, not mine.
    I never defended Peron, called him “admirable”, or a “man of principles”. You are aiming for clouds. Again.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    What are your 'convictions', Stevie?

    You are not very clear about what you do stand for, just throwing out wild accusations, “ you are a Nazi”, etc.

    I suppose that by being coy, it is difficult for an adversary to criticise your viewpoint when they don't know what it is.

    do you not have the courage of your convictions??

    It seems that you cannot argue a position, just dodge and weave after making accusations or criticisms.

    You have the hallmarks of a professional Troll.

    Do you approve of CFK, her government, or any combination of the two?

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Troy
    Again you are aiming for clouds. I never called anyone here a nazi, only if you happen to wear the name Edwin Hummel.

    I do approve of CFK and her government, with my restrictions. I don't agree with the protectionism towards other SA nations, as I think whole SA should work together on a common cause. That said, I also believe it's every Argentinians right to vote for whom they wish to lead their country, just as it is their choice whom they want to trade with and under what conditions.

    If you want to know my position on any matter, just ask. No need to come up with your own alternative reality.

    As for my convictions, I'm atheist and anarchist.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 10:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fillooooo

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    Mar 24th, 2013 - 10:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    @64 Stevie

    “ ...an athiest and an anarchist”

    Well, thank you for that. I will ask you another question:

    Who are “we”, the organisation? As an 'anarchist', you must have freedom of thought, to form your own opinions - what organisation would you want to join, or for that matter, who would want you, you must be difficult to control??

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    Tupamaros, in my case the José Artigas branch

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 11:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Thank you. Do you think there is much call for Marxist Anarchist groups in SA anymore, given that many states are populist in nature?

    , do you also post as a 'Japanese' Marxist on here, under another username?

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Stevie

    68
    The Tupamaros are a historic organisation, today they form part of FA.
    I don't agree with you that most governments in SA are populist in nature. There are great differences between them. Most are based on a socialist ideology, but the economic policies varies a lot. While some approach it from a liberal perspective, others choose a more restrictive approach.
    I assume your idea of populism is to feed the poor for votes. I think the poor are being fed for need, not for votes, and I can't understand the lack of humanity that leads people to look down on such an attitude.

    As for Marxism, it's an idea presented in 1850'ish and would have to be revised and adapted to 2013 in order to have any form for relevance. I do agree with parts of the economics in Marxism, but they too suffer from an out-dated reality.

    No, this is my only username.

    Mar 24th, 2013 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Troy Tempest

    Thanks for being forth-rite and filling me in on your background.

    I cannot speak any longer.

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  • Fillooooo

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  • Troy Tempest

    sussie is boring.

    Mar 25th, 2013 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Simon68

    Strange that Think, a proud left-winger, turns to a facist blogger for amunition to fire at the Brits, and stranger still that the article which he uses as amunition does not appear in Richard Woods' listed articles ( journalisted.com/richard-woods?allarticles=yes )!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Troy Tempest

    @75

    More “Sussie ” impersonation fake post.

    Please remove. Thanks.

    Mar 26th, 2013 - 01:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Filloooo

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  • Troy Tempest

    @77

    yawn, boring.

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  • agent999

    @73 Simon68
    It is just the old turnip Thinks way of doing things, anything to distract .
    It is a bit like him playing with all his sock puppets to help back him up.

    Mar 26th, 2013 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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