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Falklands: 'Yes' vote means 'we don’t want to be colonized by Argentina'
A delegation from the Falkland Islands recently visited Jamaica as part of a tour of North America, Central American and Caribbean countries to inform about the referendum earlier this month which resulted in a resounding 'yes' with only three 'no' votes, leaving no doubt as to their wish to remain a British Overseas Territory. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhat piece of idiot and hypocrite. Here what matters is not what they say or want the occasional inhabitants (squatters) of the Malvinas Argentinas, if not which country-La República Argentina or Britain (the usurper) - belongs of the disputed territory.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is a question of territory and not of the wishes of occupants.
That is, if the territory of the Falkland Islands belong to the Argentine people present and future or else the British people present and future. What do you think?
Issue of territorial integrity and not self-determination, therefore.
I don't understand google translate but the islands belong to the people who live on them.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 02:32 am - Link - Report abuse 01 José Malvinero
Mar 25th, 2013 - 02:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Falkland Islands”. NO!!!!!!!!!!!
I meant “MALVINAS Islands”. That damn translator.
@1 Jose Malvinero
Mar 25th, 2013 - 03:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0“It is a question of territory and not of the wishes of occupants.”
I know, I know. Their wishes don't matter. Screw them! It only matters what YOU want!!
You have no historical claim to that land. No matter that it is near your country and you want it. I repeat, “You have NO historical claim to that land.” You occupied it for 2 months in frickin' 1833!?
You wanted Picton, Lennox, and Nueva too. They are Chilean. And you tried to take those by force too. Do you still think those are yours also?
Tell me in detail what your claim is! Answer me you turd or shut your mouth from now on!
The Falklands are not yours and you all are the land grabbing “filthy imperialists”. What a bunch of frickin' no-brained, idiot, goonbah, apes!
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Mar 25th, 2013 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0?
Mar 25th, 2013 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We did have British people voting to remain British”
Mar 25th, 2013 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is this some kind of joke?
They were voting not to be Argentine, because that would suck.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7 no it was a referendum that had people of dual nationality, Falklander and British, as well as many other nationalities, Falklander and Argentine, Falklander and Chilean, Falklander and Australian etc etc..
Mar 25th, 2013 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0and only 3 of them wanted change. Those 3 probably wanted independence.
@9 “Falklander” isn't a nationality. Only the three people who voted No wanted it to be, possibly. What's wrong with you? Don't you recognise the wishes of the majority? To belong to the Falkland Islands is to be British so no more of this dual nationality nonsense.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 06:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Of course the Islanders would never want to be colonized by the mainlanders.. especially those from Bs. As., I mean who would...!! Why would anyone want to be administered to by that lot? Most of the rest of the country except for those Peronist cronies of “Chicken Legs Kirchner” don't want to be administered by Bs. As. ...
Mar 25th, 2013 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ask the people in Commodoro Rivadavia or those from Jujuy... They will speak their minds. I mean really all of this sabre rattling over the islands is the same rhetoric used just prior to the war to deflect attention from the crisis in the capital area... I am quite sure that most of the populace of the BIG CITY don't give a twaddle about the rest of the country... As a friend once said “Argentina es el Mate y Buenos Aires es el chupe del bombillo” ...
The biggest problem is that the mainstay of the country is there in the gran Capital Area and they have forgotten their countrymen .. Very sad!! :(
You should know all about jokes Marcos, Argentina is a massive one. Can't get its inflation stats right and has some strange ways of determining currency exchange rates.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 06:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@7
Mar 25th, 2013 - 07:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0Was it a joke when a whole bunch of Spaniards vote not to be Spanish anymore in 1814?
You just can't get your thick head around it can you.
All of the Americas are an implanted population. Most have CHOSEN or FOUGHT for Independence.
A few have CHOSEN or FOUGHT to remain allied with their former countries (French Guyana, Bermuda, Falklands)
It is that very right to self-determination that means Argentina exists that you would try (and fail) to deny the Falklanders.
Makes you a bit of a dick.
@1
Mar 25th, 2013 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0The 19th century called. They'd like their attitudes back.
“We had a huge turnout. It was 92%”
Mar 25th, 2013 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0In numbers, 19 people showed up...
@ 3 even the translator has a better and more realistic view of history than you!!
Mar 25th, 2013 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ 15 I thnk you will find that 92% turnout equated to somewhere in the region of 1500 votes. I know the concept of free elections and democracy doesnt extend to argentina but it certainly does on The Falklands.
What system is used on the fictitous Malvinas, where ever they might be?
It is such a shame that given the direction that Argentina, in particular its economy, is heading ( I.E downwards in the toilet pan) that Cruella, Tinpot man and the rest dont start expending as much effort at solving thier economic problems than they do into trying to rewrite the history books ...... damn ... they do... lie about inflation, lie about growth ...lie about The Falklands .... lie after lie after lie...
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Mar 25th, 2013 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Justin Bieber attracts 20 times that number. Justin Bieber!!!
You said it yourselves, you are Brits. Fair enough, the islands are not.
Colonised by Rgland! Who would want to be colonised by that bunch of crooks. Big article in The Times this morning about how KFC is putting the bite on the free press by threatening multinationals to boycott Clarin, La Nacion and Perfil or face trouble repatriating their profits. Clarins advertising has plunged from 264 pages to 61 and they face losses of $70 million pa. People are now comparing her to Chavez and Castro after a 3 hour 45 minute tv address on all channels. 1984 and Animal Farm all rolled into one!
Mar 25th, 2013 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0#17
Mar 25th, 2013 - 10:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0“the islands are not”
Yes they are.
We can keep this up for ever. Every time you say the islands belong to Argentina, we will post, no they are not. No explanations required as this has been done to death for years with no legal explanation as to why Argentina should have the islands apart from “we want them”
#5
Ah, Sussie with her anal fixation. Visit a proctologist and see if it can be cured or mitigated.
Your command of the English language has not improved much over the preceding year.
Of the two offers between keeping it in your British arse or giving it to Argentina, the former is a better and less onerous choice.
KFC is going to hold the throne for many many years; I have no doubt. Even if she doesn't get to be allowed to run for a third term all that will happen (much like Russia) is she will simply stuff a puppet into the Presidency (Timmerman?) and control them while retaining a senior position in government to only run and get another 8 years as president in the following election.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0Suprised she hasn't buddied up with Putin yet for some tips...
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Mar 25th, 2013 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Forever is a long time, Clyde.
@21 Yes it is - a *very* long time
Mar 25th, 2013 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#21
Mar 25th, 2013 - 01:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well that is one point on which we can agree.
Yes, forever is infinite. The slanging match can go on forever - you say “ours” - we say no.
Again, it matters not a whit as to what our respective opinions are. No one in either govt. will pay any attention to what is posted here.
The matter will be finalised sooner or later.
All I can say is, from an UK perspective, your country has next to no chance of incorporating the islands into Argentina.
Your country is perceived as being highly unstable and untrustworthy. Bluster and threats do not go down well with the UK population as our history has shown.
As I have said before, your only chance is to back off, make friendly overtures, wait for time to pass and JUST MAYBE the islanders will lose their innate fear and dislike of your country.
Then anything is possible. However this is far in the future.
Mike Summers, as usual, is dead right!
Mar 25th, 2013 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Philippe
@1,3 Indeed you are. Have you not noticed that they, the Falkland Islanders“ are not ”occasional“ anything. Indeed, if there is anyone who is ”occasional“ in relation to the Falkland Islands, it is argies. Approximately 4 years and 74 days out of the last 248 years. And then they were trespassing!
Mar 25th, 2013 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Shame, isn't it? It seems virtually everyone calls the Falkland Islands by their proper name. THE FALKLAND ISLANDS. Get used to it. They will be there a long, long time!
@7 You don't seem to understand the concept of ”democracy“. An example. I am British. I am also, apparently, ”European“. An ”honour“ I didn't ask for and don't want. In a little while, my government will ask me to vote on whether I want to remain ”European“. I will vote NO. So, if I am already a ”European“ and can vote to stop being one and the Falkland Islanders, who are already Falkland Islanders and British, can vote on whether they want to continue to be British, what's wrong? It's the same thing. The people have spoken! We don't have the sort of elections that you have in argieland. Where you get to vote for CFK or else.
@10 I don't think you understand the concept of ”nationality“. A nation is a cultural and/or ethnic entity. Do not confuse ”nationality“ with ”citizenship“.
@15 You were there?
@17 Prove it. We don't have to.
@21 Longer than you'll ever live.
@23 ”far in the future”? About 5,000 years, I'd say.
Teslyn Barkman is dead right too. Being an archipelago in the South Atlantic, the Falklands are definitely not a part of Great Britain. Her analysis of the political and economic relationship is, however, rather more suspect and shows a lack of understanding, wilful perhaps, of the 2008 UK Legislation that gives the FIG its powers and funding.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 02:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Mike Summers and Teslyn Barkman trudging through the Caribbean like weary salesmen trying to hawk discredited goods - islander self-determination and the referendum- that they know that they cannot sell in other markets. Interesting that mainland Guyana gave them the cold shoulder. Some South American solidarity there.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Las islas son sud-americanas, argentinas no inglesas.
17 Stevie
Mar 25th, 2013 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why are you posting to yourself?
I see you are invoking Justin again: “Justin Bieber attracts 20 times that number. Justin Bieber!!!”
You know that Anglotino fancies JB, so I guess you will have to fight for him.
My money is on Anglotino, he continually 'beats you up' in arguments.
LOLs
Good afternoon Think 26,27 - piss off..
Mar 25th, 2013 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 Marcos Alejandro you are just an idiot, there were Argentines, Chileans, and lots of other nations that voted to be British for a good reason, they don't want Argentine rule!
Mar 25th, 2013 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe I read the referendum question incorrectly but didn't it basically ask if there was a desire to keep the same political relationship with the UK, or ultimately change the political relationship in some way? So how did Argentines get it into their heads that it was something other than that. Ultimately the same question could have led to some kind of political union with the third country if they so chose.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Given this, are they just dreadful at reading comprehension? How do they explain their dreadful reading comprehension skills? Do they know that they're functionally illiterate?
2 KFC de Pollo
Mar 25th, 2013 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Correct. The Argentina belongs to Argentines and Britain to the British. The Malvinas Islands belong to whom?
Hint: the present inhabitants of the Malvinas, not is a different people from Britain (Europe).
dover are manx, orcadians etc no nationalities? I say they are and so do the people. thus Falklanders are also a nationality
Mar 25th, 2013 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@33 Oh, like I'm dual nationality Scottish and British? Except I'm not as my passport reminds me, I'm just British when it comes to international relations. That's just like Falkland Island status holders, Manx affiliated fellow British Citizens and the electorate of the Northern Isles. Attempts to make self identification the measure of nationality are doomed to fail the moment they are used to gain legal advantage. Thus Falklander is not a nationality and if they wanted it to be they should really have voted No as well as answering that touchy feely question in the part analysed 2012 Census the way many of them did.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 maybe they belong to the people who live on them or the people who found them?
Mar 25th, 2013 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact they are close to another country isn't a case for ownership, unless you're argentina, nazi germany or imperial japan.
“”“@33 Oh, like I'm dual nationality Scottish and British? Except I'm not as my passport reminds me,”“”
Mar 25th, 2013 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you are the sock-puppet imagination of another person, you dont frikkin exist. you have no passport. your “Opinion” is that of your puppet master, your account is fake and you have proven yourself to be utterly clueless about Britain and the British.
crawl back into the digital hole you issued from.
@32 Do you have a problem with comprehension? Nobody is arguing about “Argentina”. You can have it. Nobody else in their right mind would want it. You lot have been in it. There's no telling what you've done to it. And you wouldn't tell the truth anyway. You never do.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Falkland Islands are different. Hint: FALKLAND Islands, named after Anthony Carey, 5th Viscount of Falkland. They are BRITISH. Got that? Repeat after me; British, British, British, British, British. It's only fair that the Islands belong to the country that first discovered them, first claimed sovereignty over them at a time when your “country” didn't even exist. Think this through. A few years ago, you had something called “the junta”. That wasn't “you”, you say. Okay, “the junta” did some nasty things and you don't want to be associated with them. Fair enough. 200 years ago, your “country” had a “regime” that was even worse. Over the best part of a century, it set out to commit real genocide. And it did it. Why would it be ok to be associated with them? But they were the same “people” that were trespassing on British Islands! Besides, your first “expedition” to the Islands took 8 months to get there and was led by a criminal. Who could take that seriously? The next “expedition” was led by a private individual, with British permission. Here's a thought. If Britain announces that Neil Armstrong was the British military and civilian commander of the Moon, does that make the Moon British? Actually, Britain could announce that Sir William Beresford was the military and civilian commander of “Argentina” and “Argentina” would be “legally” British. There, after all this time, you can be British! Isn't that good?
It's good to see the FIG getting a voice and speaking to the world, this is just a start. I think the most stupid Argentibe comment made recently was Timmermans saying that the people on the Falklands don't exist. It reminds me of Iran saying the holocaust didn't happen. Argentina has lost this fight and they know it, the Falklands are finding their voice and identity and they are clearly marketing themselves in a worldwide level. I'm convinced Argentina will do something stupid before the current regime is gone, they are getting more and more desperate in their tone and actions.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 017 Stevie (#)
Mar 25th, 2013 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Justin Bieber attracts 20 times that number. Justin Bieber!!!'
The correct assessment would be, Stevie,
'what percentage of the population of the Falkland Islands would turn out to see Justin B.?'
More than 92%?
Perhaps 8% for its sheer novelty value
(probably the missing 8% from the Referendum ;)
(34) Mr. McDod
Mar 25th, 2013 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Easy to understand why the English Turnips hate you with such passion.
Difficult to rebut factually true facts, even for a Turnip.
I can see that MercoPress chose to publish that picture of Mike & Teslyn behind the White House……
Is that photo the only result of their two weeks “Tour de USA”
Quite pauper if anybody should ask me…
32 jose malvenero
Mar 25th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So argentina belongs to the argentines, britain belongs to britons but doesn't the falklands belong to islanders? Is it duration of ownership? Islanders have been their prior to creation of argentina. Did we usurp? No. Most civilians stayed following removal of garrison.
The argentine claim is weaker than a teabag after its 10th use. Your government knows it. This the last swansong of the malvinas myth.
1 José Malvinero
Mar 25th, 2013 - 07:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Congratulations!!!! You are first poster on this forum with the WRONG answer.
I think I can para-phrase Rich Hall at this point:-
“Good things come to those who wait, but s**t pretty much turns up straight away doesn't it?”
..........and there you are, José Malvinero......at number 1.....
No further questions, your honour
The people of the Falkland Islands do not wish to become part of an Argentine colony just like the people of the Canary islands do not wish to become part of Morocco. Argentina get over it.
Mar 25th, 2013 - 07:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apparently tin man stormed out of the UN
Mar 25th, 2013 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0citing its full of British puppies, and fuming like he hate the bloody brits,
[so the grapevine says ??]
Cant prove it, so could just be propergander .lol.
@44 briton
Mar 25th, 2013 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jumping the gun sire, but oh boy, he's going to demand the UN reject the referendum.
This is an important moment. Mr Moon has said plenty prior to this, all in favour of the rights of the islanders. And so the end is nigh.....
mmm
Mar 25th, 2013 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0like i said just the grapvine,
the true result will be expected,
their is nothing the UN can do, but back britain, or sit on the wall,
as for tinman,
perhaps he will stand in front of the gun.lol.
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Mar 25th, 2013 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos & Malvinero,
Mar 26th, 2013 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0Can you not understand - A number of ARGENTINES - who also have Islander Status and British Passports and are on the electoral role who live in the Islands also voted to STAY a B.O.T.
Others of Argentine nationality but who are residents of the Islands - albeit not with britsh passports ALSO told the free press from overseas that had they had a vote - they would have also voted to STAY a British O.T.
I wonder why?
Suggest you ask them WHY?
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Mar 26th, 2013 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0@40 I find by observation here that anyone deviating from hard line conservatism (as in any change now is bad) is subject to hatred. Well, subject to pathetic childish name-calling anyway. Talking of observation; no report yet.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0@48 What's that number then - you know, the number of dual nationality British-Argentinians with Falkland Island Status? By the way, any Argentinian resident on the Islands who said publicly that if they had a vote they would have voted No would be having a pretty interesting time about now. If they were still resident there, that is.
51- That info would be privy to the Attorney General and Registrar General only and quite correct- I know personally of 3 possible 5. There are bound to be more.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 02:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As for the second part - naturally these are quotes to South American- including Argentine Press that were here .
Those who would say No - their own personal and private democratic choice - but I would agree - if that is what they believe then one would question are they living in the place they actually want to be.
@52 I wonder if the 2006 Census Report, now for some reason no longer available, might not have cast light on this question of the numbers with dual nationality. It was once at:
Mar 26th, 2013 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklands.gov.fk/documents/Census%20Report%202006.pdf
Or perhaps the 2012 Census Report when it comes out, if ever it does.
(53) Mr. McDod
Mar 26th, 2013 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Tight information control over a population of less than 2,600 Squatters.
Only 3 out of 1,600 voted NO.... tight mind control?
Brainwash anybody?
#54
Mar 26th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, democratic secret vote. Brainwashing is what is applied to Argentinian schoolchildren who are fed the party line and made to sing patriotic songs about their lost birthright without having a clue about all the facts. They only know about it from your ministry of propaganda and no other source.
As to the term squatters, from what I have seen on TV and the web they do not squat but have full use of their limbs to walk about their land except if they step on an Argie land mine - left as a friendly token of their peaceful intent.
With some replies,
Mar 26th, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One has to wonder to some educational skills,
We do notice it is only a few thick Argies that still think they are infant delinquents,
But try to keep up 47-49-50=
3 brains in one brain cell , has to be a record.??
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My son has dual nationality. He uses his British passport to travel to Argentina and then uses his Argentinian passport to travel in Argentina, as travel costs are cheaper. If you use a British passport, they rip you off. Why?
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I continue to be disgusted with the Mercopress comments of Pugol #47, Filloo #49 and Celina Arrayo #50.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is nothing 'smart' or 'partisan' about your crudeness.
You just show yourself to be an unsatisfactory individual.
#59
Mar 27th, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't let it get to you, he/she/it/they are just low-life scum with sad little lives who have not got two brain cells to rub together.
As they are supporting the Argentine cause, any neutral reader of MercoPress must come away thinking what an illiterate bunch of people they are.
@32
Mar 27th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Hint: the present inhabitants of the Malvinas, not is a different people from Britain (Europe).”
Yes they are different.
UK people do not name their horse gear in Spanish. Falkland Islanders do thanks to influence from Gaucho workers (from Argentina who accepted British nationality in the 1800s).
UK people do not call cattle grids passilibras (if this is spelt wrong my apologies Jose). They do in the Falkland Islands-so they are influenced by two european languages.
I believe it is still legal to tickle trout in the FIs-it is not legal in the UK-therefore different.
The Falkland Islands Defence Force do not use the standard British L85 rifle but the Steyr AUG, andf their radios are different. If the Falkland Islands Defence Force is tied at the waste to the UK, why were the Defence Force allowed to tell the cheap L85's offered to them to go swivel and make their own choice of infantry weapon?
Jose sounds like a European name to me, so I will research the names of the Indians you European implants butchered in the War of the Desert in the 1880s.
If Argentines are different to Europeans, why do you speak Spanish and not have an Argentine language of your own?
Even the Welsh (part of UK) have their own language. Some Scots speak Gaellic.
The Isle of Man (admitedly not part of the UK bit near to) still has traces of it's own language, Manx.
So why do you use a European language and not have your own?
if they are ignored,
Mar 27th, 2013 - 07:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0with the odd laugh,
they may make like the wind,
and blow away.lol.
@34 You need to try to comprehend the difference between “nationality” and “citizenship”. Perhaps then you might start to make some sense.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@54 You certainly are brainwashed. Or brain-dead. Or ignorant. Can we assume you never leave your “house”? Because, the way you look at things, anyone could come along, get in and then say it was theirs.
“Brainwash anybody?”
Mar 30th, 2013 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0they'd have to find your first before anybody could wash it...
sure as death & taxes nobody would want to claim it.
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