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Falklands: Argentina wants to silence referendum results and applies a ‘diplomacy of desperation’
The Falkland Islands said that Argentina’s ‘frantic efforts’ to have the international community ignore the voice of the people of the Falkland Islands is ‘a diplomacy of desperation’ and insisted that the recent referendum results again confirmed that the people of the Falklands have no desire to be governed by Buenos Aires. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesArgentina doesn't need to silence that fake referendum results.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0It was a failure from the start.
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Mar 26th, 2013 - 02:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is their land, their voice is the only voice that counts.
You all are still pretty embarassed and angry about losing in '82. You all are responsible for that tragedy, you should get over your anger and just take care of the land you already occupy.
The real silence is about the bond case on thursday,not a peep! do I sense a deal has been done??
Mar 26th, 2013 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0@1 Marcus, what is fake about a correctly supervised vote in this referendum? What proof do you have that it is fake at all? You are talking rubbish, the people of the Falkland Islands are real and the territory belongs to them, they have made their wishes known most clearly. Just get over yourself, stop bleating like the lost sheep that you are and accept the truth and reality that Argentina has failed consistently to prove their version of events over the couple of hundred years and continue to fail in their dirty lies and desperate diplomacy. Go away silly man.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 03:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0Gavin's letter was nothing short of brilliant. The results of the Referendum, followed by the diplomatic work in the Americas, North, South & Central, followed by the discussions with members of the US Congress (now that American oil companies are involved) are causing an avalanche in favour of the Falkland Islanders to dismiss Argentina's claim once and for all.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Timerman is only making it worse (for Argentina) by trying to discredit the Referendum, because he cannot deny the rights of Self-Determination, inherent in the Charter, General Assembly Resolution 1514 (XV) and now championed by the UN General Secretary himself.
The statement in November was the wake up call for Argentina. Come to your senses, because you cannot deny that the Falkland Islanders exist and that they have rights. Trying to deny their existence is like trying to turn back the tide.
One might suggest that Argentina has become the King Canute of the modern era, attempting to order the tide back. The truth is that Canute was not stupid, but actually trying to demonstrate that only God has command of the heaven, earth & sea. In Argentina's case, they ARE attempting to be foolish by denying the existence of the Islanders.
Maybe a better analogy would be the fable of the Emperor's new clothes. The Argentines think that they have a claim to the islands and by denying the existence of the Islanders, that the Argentine claim is good, but in fact the Argentines have no claim at all, they are naked and being laughed at by all the peoples of the world.
Argentina humiliated themselves in 1982. By denying the existence of the Islanders and denying the results of the Referendum, they are parading naked before the world, as the fools they are, asking to be humiliated all over again when the UN recognises the Islanders & recognises that the Islanders have done everything necessary to include Argentina in talks, but Argentina is too foolish to realise that they have no claim (and no clothes!).
Ask yourself province of Argentina, will continue their flag, their language, their culture. All we can negotiate, it is not necessary to adopt the nationality Argentina, it is not compulsory, will always British, we do not colonize. They will have a daily flight from Chile or Uruguay. Just ask him a weekly flight from Santa Cruz. Receive fresh produce at low prices, derive their seriously ill patients to the mainland, I could go to learn English (which I miss good). If you do not want to see us face, may decide not to accept to live there, just want to go as tourists. Just be certain Argentine federal offices, as there are in all the provinces, but no more than that. Remember together on April 2, as the worst mistake made by any Argentine government, at all times. And accordingly we will ask forgiveness for the invasion, admit it was an act vile and cowardly.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 04:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Marcos Alejandro (#)
Mar 26th, 2013 - 04:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 26th, 2013 - 02:14 am
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Argentina doesn't need to silence that fake referendum results.
It was a failure from the start. ......What is this lunatic babbling about?....ie...“Fake referendum results”....Its a very sad fact that the hysterical Argies just dont get it....Bottom line..The falkland islanders want NOTHING to do with them...End of Story...And I suspect that will be the message from the UN...!!
@xavierv
Mar 26th, 2013 - 04:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0You seem to know all the terms of Argentine Assimilation plan.
Are you a Government Representative offering negotiation ???
TWIMC
Mar 26th, 2013 - 05:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Kelper Propaganda minister, Ms. Watson is riding English saddle!
The Anglification of that woman knows no limits!
No apero criollo + No cojinillo =Sore bum ;-)
For a country that doesn't need to silence a failed referendum result Argentina is doing a good job of appearing to care.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina doesnt need to silence the referendum results why does Hector need to immediately fly to New York to speak to Ban Ki Moon about it.
‘diplomacy of desperation’
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL
Is there ANY other sort of diplomacy in Argentina????
Xavier
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are unwilling to negotiate.
On the one hand you request that territorial boundaries be returned to the window of November 1832-January 1833....as opposed to any other 2 month window in history.
Quite why this moment in time is relevant we aren't sure, but ok, if Argentina “will not be complete” until the territorial boundaries of Nov1832-Jan 1833 are restored...you guys go first.
IMMEDIATELY and unilaterally withdraw from all the lands you stole during the “Genocide of the desert”, which I would argue was a far more vile and cowardly act than 1982 as the indigenous folk you Argentines slaughtered were defenceless...
Once this land is returned to its rightful owners, for a period of say 100 years, and full reparation made, we can then discuss the Falklands.
@9 Sr Think,
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Something to get those old stained teeth of yours into. Only in English as yet and French seems to be of the agenda entirely.
http://www.riom-mior.com/index_files/Final%20Report_EN.pdf
Argentina , the shining light of electoral probity .
Mar 26th, 2013 - 09:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOdDy5jTIzs
And they have the nerve to accuse the Falklands of rigging the election ?
Pull the other one Marcos , it has bells on .
@9 Actually she uses a western with a small seat cojinillo.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0@14 Usurping Pirate, your link says it all....Argentine democracy......an oxymoron.....this BBC story shows vote buying in the 2010 Argentine national elections with each 'shonky' vote collected in the slums of Buenos Aires worth 50 pesos.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 09:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0While the Falkland Islands may be a small population, the quality of these people as demonstrated by their local politicians far outshines their Argentine counterparts, who constantly embarrass their nation with their idiotic behaviour.
But then again, the Argentine politicians are probably a fairly representation of the Argentine population......how sad.......more misery to come as the malvinistas dream and dream while their country fallls apart around them.
I have realised why Arg wants the Falklands so much. They are looking for a replacement for their diplomatic disaster Hector Timmerman and are planning to replace him with Gavin Short.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0BBC are planning a new comedy series titled “Que?”, its set in the canteen in the Casa Rosa and features dopplegangers of KFC, Tinman and the rest. It's so funny you couldn't make it up. I think it might even give poor old Marcos a laugh! Will it be a comedy or a tragedy?
@ div over / think
Mar 26th, 2013 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0French seems to be of the agenda entirely
need to do a bit more research for your creation,its not true they drop the second f in the Royal Navy :-))))))
@18
Mar 26th, 2013 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0We can all make spelling mistakes and grammatical errors for that matter. Here's an example of one such error laden offering, where the errors are legion, shall we say.
”@ div over / think
French seems to be of the agenda entirely
need to do a bit more research for your creation,its not true they drop the second f in the Royal Navy :-))))))“
For example, it's customary to have a space between a comma and the following word. It's also customary to begin a written sentence with a capital letter. When quoting directly the words of someone else it is customary to attribute correctly and to include the words within what the educated classes call ”quotation marks“. A full stop is expected at the end of a sentence, too. In the RN and elsewhere ” its“ in the context you use it should more correctly be written as be ”it's”.
Then there's the simple courtesy, extended to most posters here by anyone with any sort of good manners, not to make a fuss about the occasional minor mistake but to robustly challenge irrelevance, inexactitude and error. Consider yourself challenged on all three counts.
19 Doveoverdover
Mar 26th, 2013 - 11:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do on an occasion remember being taken to task for using an “!” instead of a “?” !
@ 19 :-)))))
Mar 26th, 2013 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK05vnR_Pio
While MLA Gavin Short, in his letter to the Secretary General, makes generous reference to the UN Charter and to Resolution 1514, he quite overlooks Resolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas, which is the key to the dispute between Argentina and the UK. In Resolution 2065 the Falkland Islanders are classified as a “population”, not a “people” with a right to self-determination. Hence Timerman' s rejection of the referendum.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 06 XAVIERV
Mar 26th, 2013 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't seem to understand what you are proposing. The invasion of 1982 was a vile and cowardly act, but it was the only way to impose a regime change on an unwilling population. You had 10 000 troops here, and even then you couldn't stop Islanders sabotaging your communications and countless other acts of resistance.
Now 99.8% of the population has said they don't want you, and I'd be very surprised if the other 3 people want you either. So what's the plan? How do you go about subjugating a population without using force?
We hear what you're offering, and we don't want it. So now what?
@1 Then be silent. If it was a “failure from the start”, you have no need to comment. Neither does your “government”. If you saw a notice stating that argieland was and is British and that the argie government accepted that, you wouldn't believe it and you would ignore it. So why so much fuss over the Falkland Islands Referendum?
Mar 26th, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 Really? Are you thick? Or do you “think” we are? There are a few deluded cretins that actually believe that the Falkland Islands should belong to argieland. Amazingly, there are a few such traitorous cowards even in Britain. We don't have to include B-K. He has a fixation. What he doesn't realise is that he doesn't have to get into CFK's pants. What he wants is hanging down near her knees. Did you know that one of the least favourite colours in the Falkland Islands is blue? Even here in Britain, we are considering getting rid of a bunch of skirt-wearing transgenders because they whinge too much, like argies, and have blue in their “national” flag. They can't even speak properly. I mean “'Scots, wha hæ wi Wallace bled, Scots, wham Bruce has aften led, Welcome tæ yer gory bed, Or tæ victorie.” What sort of “language” is that? It's almost as bad as Gibberish. That you may call “Spanish”. No, you can keep your “federal offices”. In fact, if you think hard, you can probably figure out where we want you to shove 'em. And, incidentally, if you can't call the Islands by their proper name, you don't have a valid “opinion”.
@9 Since you like abbreviations, here's one for your comment. NWS. Geddit?
@19 I do like your teaching of the use of the English language. Perhaps you could comment on ”it should more correctly be written as be ”it's”. One would have thought that someone denigrating someone else's use of language should make sure that their own use is perfect? Or perhaps you just needed to go and have a piss. In my own case, after reading your comment, I couldn't decide between having a shit and having a vomit.
@22 Population != People? Oh DO tell. Population of what? People? Or is it “people”. You know, as in little-p people are often required to lay down and be rolled over for the sake of the Big-P People -- the excuse for fascists like you world wide to stand on people's (both big and small) necks so you can feel better about yourselves when you hear that first little “crack.”
Mar 26th, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@22
Mar 26th, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If they're not a **people**, then surely the “Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and **Peoples**” isn't relevant? On the other hand, if the “Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and **Peoples**” is relevant, then surely that makes the Falklanders a “people” in the sense of the Declaration?
X
Mar 26th, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You need to look up the meaning of population in a dictionary, amongst other things, mine defines it as, all of the (and this is the good bit) 'people' inhabiting an area! Whoops!
@12 you missed out on the large part of Paraguay they stole too.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(13) Mr. McDod
Mar 26th, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Porcelain doesn’t stain…. Courtesy of a little jackbooted bunion some 35 years ago.
Nothing much on that report......, apart from the fact that the vote was not secret but almost public.
No wonder only 3 dared to vote NO.
(15) Benson
You..... Killjoy!
I know it’s a Western saddle………... but that wouldn’t fit in my comment, would it?
About that small cojinillo……… Either is extremely small.
Or Lisa’s derriere is getting bigger ;-)
@29 Sr Think,
Mar 26th, 2013 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It must have been the boot that was on the other foot.
I thought the idea that the population would benefit from education on the qualities of the permanent pencil and on the correct form of the tick and cross was worth the price paid for the report alone. Sadly but unsurprisingly the report was silent on who “owns” the RIOM and who paid for them. One has to congratulate the CRO for tracking them down, “A team” like, in the first place.
”The Referendum International Observation Mission/Misión International de Observación del Referendo (RIOM/MIOR) accepted the invitation of the Falkland Islands Chief Referendum Officer to observe the Referendum.”
One final thought. When did Spanish become an official language in the Falkland Islands and, if it isn't, is its use by visiting entirely independent international bodies, however small and secretively put together, a tiny pointer to the future?
(30) Mr. McDod
Mar 26th, 2013 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I also wondered where the Malvinas Isles Chief Referendum Officer found (RIOM/MIOR) inexistent address?.
The Yellow Pages?
The most interesting part of that report is that the vote in Malvinas is not secret, but almost public.....
Oooooops.... just checked the babies.... -11.25... that's cooold ;-)
@30 Sr Think, I'm happy to remind you that the value of your investments can go up as well as down. Past performance is not a guide to future performance in this as in many other aspects of human activity.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is of interest?
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did the UN Secretary General
Reply to Sharon Halford and Mike Summers
And what was the reply. If any
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@XAVIERV The soverignty issue was laid to rest in 1982 no country should ever be awared for dam right aggression the sooner this Argentine administartion is buried the better,Kirchners have been nothing but trouble.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I understand that the independent observers were found and paid for by the Canadian government.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Almost public, but not actually public. Not much of a story is it. If all the members of Joe Blogg's family crammed into his living room in Hill Cove had looked over his shoulder, they could have seen what he'd voted. Well, hold the front page.
And if you held up the paper to the light, you might be able to see throught it. Except that you wouldn't actually know that until you'd voted, folded it in half and held it up.
Clutching at straws, anyone?
Obviously, the referendum was legal as:
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 01. There is no specific law that Argentina can rely on to nullify it.
2. Argentina by her failure to legally challenge it, has given tacit consent, with her acquiescence.
As Argentine tell, do not want to be a colony. Moreover, dictaremos laws to protect their customs and culture. We want to be like the Welsh in Patagonia, a community protected from any influence. We will not allow mass immigration from the Argentine mainland. They have a past and a present valuable to be preserved. We want to maintain the high lifestyle they have now, we want to come to the mainland for a walk and enjoy the good wine “Malbec”, with a rich roast beef .. And when they return to their homes are the same people as always and it is full of strange place.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37
Mar 26th, 2013 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You talk a load of “ bollocks ”, Why would the FALKLANDERS want to go to Argentina after all the hassle they have had. You would want their lifestyle. Just because you can't have it. GRAB,GRAB ,GRAB jealous or what?
There are no welsh in Patagonia ffs, they are all long since dead, their descendants are still there and they are Argentinian, end of.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think- do enlighten us on how it was a public referendum ballot? Maybe some silly buggers didn.t fold their paper after putting their mark and walked to the ballot box with it visible - well silly buggers- there are always a few everywhere! Or maybe they did so deliberatley.
Mar 26th, 2013 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(35) Monty96
Mar 26th, 2013 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clutching at straws?
It was not me but your very own Propaganda Organ telling us that the Yank observers thought it was a bad idea that the FIG(leaf) paid the “Observers” expenses.........
It was not me but your very own Propaganda Organ telling us that the Yank observers thought it was a bad idea that your ballots were serial numbered.........
It was not me but your very own Propaganda Organ telling us that the Yank observers thought it was a bad idea that you had no curtains in the ballot rooms.......
Come on!
41 Think
Mar 26th, 2013 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Come on yourself.
No-one over the age of 9 believes everything they read in the papers.
The first two were actioned.
The third probably should have been, but I'm not entirely sure how you go about erecting a curtain in a landrover. Or the Islander plane. Or Mrs Miggins kitchen. Where I voted, the 'booth' was a cardboard box with the side cut out, which worked a treat. I'm surprised it didn't get a mention in the report.
@41
Mar 26th, 2013 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who gives a s**t what the Yanks say? Do you care what other Latam countries say,
Get over it the FALKLANDS will be FREE as long as they want to be. If in the future they want independence then good luck to them.
Who gives a rat's about what Titmann says or thinks.... he will be out of a job come Christmas...
Mar 27th, 2013 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe sooner than that, there's word that Argentina will default on the bonds after the court ruling and that could mean them getting the heave ho sooner than later.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 12:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0@37 XAVIERV “And when they return to their homes are the same people as always and it is full of strange place” Don't talk crap, in 1982 you changed my life forever, try the softly softly approach, sorry it won't work. And if you intend to leave us the way we are, what's all the crap about sovereignty!
Mar 27th, 2013 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0Think- the ballot papers were not numbered.Counterfoils yes as proof of how may issued but not the actual papers.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Christ - we are a bit more sophisticated here in that like many countries we vote in booths with sides but no back so NOBODY can see who you vote for- but the Observers and others can see that you do NOt take any papers out of your p[ocket and add them to yours and slip into the box!
The difference indeed is as an Argentine lady tourist said in the Islands on holiday recently when asked to explain how Christina got 55% - said “ You dont understand- elections in our country - they are different” !!!!!!!!!!
“Colonial relic”. That's it. The last of the “great” British Empire.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Primacy” is not about self-determination, but on territorial integrity.
There are not people different from the metropolis, therefore 1600 “voters” can not be judges to anyone.
“Peaceful Coexistence”, ha! Caradura man! Watch out! we are threatened by kelpers!
Such invitation to the islands! And to see what? A thriving British colony with most of its occasional inhabitants not even born in the islands with good economy thanks to three factors:
1) Explotación of the Argentine Sea = theft
2) The small population that allows the distribution of large profits.
3) Direct support of Britain.
In the coming years long after this dispute has been forgottem, Argentina and its “leaders” will be an academic case history in Social Psychiatry & Politics, showing how a manipulative elite fighting for their ( political ) existance ( and hence their social and economic position in the society ) use words and actions to control a broader society. It will become a classic study of the devices employed by ruthless, immoral and calculating men and women. Someone will get a Phd from this. At some distant future Argentinians will look back at this time with shame, as a dark age of unreason with astonishment that their forbears were so taken in by people of such low stature. In the distionary ,“Malvinas”, will be a word which comes to mean “A foolish empty unjust cause or a fantasy land that doesnt exist”; “going to Malvinas” will be the same as “falling off the edge of the world”. A “Malvanista” will mean the same as “an empty headed fool, unable to discern the truth, a silly man or woman”. Calling some one a Malvanista will be the worst insult conceiveable, a form of extreme mockery. If any one mentions the name “Kirchner”, the instinct will be to cross one self as a protection against evil. No parents ever again call their little girls “Cristina”. People who are unfortunate to have the surname “Kirchner” or “Fernandez” change their name lest they be associated with the bad days. Gargoyles on churches start to appear with caricatured faces of CFK to ward off evil. And so on....
Mar 27th, 2013 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL !!!!!
Mar 27th, 2013 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0In the same vein, children at birthday parties will don a blindfold and using a big stick, they'll whack a big paper mâché 'Timerman' until it explodes and spews forth all sorts of unexpected 'goodies'.
Heh heh heh!!
@49 @50
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0LOL, oh so true.
@41 Think. you come up with some crap, just because Argentina is corrupt, you find it so hard to imagine that here in the Falklands, we had a fair election, and I can tell you it was not rigged. Us, the Falkland Islanders in our Islands are very passionate about getting things right. In any case why are you so worried about our referendum, I thought it had no value and illegal, if this is the case, stop spouting about it and sort your own country before you find your no more!
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0@47
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, elections are very different in Argentina.
Right down to the way they bribe the voters with handouts of money and food, then expect the ballot paper to be folded in such a way that indicates the bribe was successful, effectively telling everyone how you voted by the fold.
They bus people to the political rallies and pay them to attend. It's easier to look as if you have support if you've bribed the audience. They did the same thing in Rome. They do the same in any number of despotic regimes in Africa.
It's corruption of their basic morals at an early stage. How can you expect them to act differently? They have to cheat or they won't get anywhere in a country of cheats. They've become so inured to stealing from their neighbour, that they don't think of it as wrong, just the accepted practise.
The only thing that will cure this country is if the neighbouring ones take over, carve it up and give the native Americans their land back.
48
Mar 27th, 2013 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Please explain Exploitation? - We MANAGE our fisheries - that is why they are higlt regarded internationally and we do it in an envirinmentally and economically sustainable way. How is the health of your fishing industry?
What distributiuon of profits are you on about? Companies make a profit - they pay a % Tax - Govt spends the tax income on the population in various ways. Got a problem with the sysytem?
What direct support from UK? Please list it and explain?
UK has provided NO direct financial support to the Islands Govt for things like local wages of govt staff etc since the late 1880!!
UK used to provide capital project and Specialist staff Assistance to an extent up to 1986/87.
Since then the Islands have been self supporting - except for the indirect cost of Defence - which is caused by Argentina,s aggression attitude anyway!
Some advice - if you cannot back up your words with facts - best thing is to keep quiet!
Argentina has a dictatorship, while The Falklands, a democracy. (When are Argentines going to wake up and replace their distator with a president?)
Mar 27th, 2013 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@37 Unfortunately, the “mainland” is known to be “inhabited” by large numbers of leeches and slugs. In addition, we are aware that an individual known as CFK can change “laws” in an instant. So your “offer” is politely rejected. Or to put it another way - sod off.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41 You seem to be under some sort of major misapprehension. Let me put it succintly. No-one gives a shit what you think. You and your mongrel “compatriots” are nonenties. An insignificant annoyance. We come here to have a laugh at your posturing and tell you what we can do to you.
@48 Off in your nazi cloud cuckoo land, are you? Your “comment” is nonsensical. Let's start with something basic. How things are done on the Falkland Islands is OUR business. What you, with your corrupt and criminal “elections”,think is of no interest. You may have difficulty with the next bit. Because it is called the “argentine sea” doesn't mean that it belongs to argieland. To explain this, you should consider that the expanse of sea to the east of the British Isles is called the “North Sea”. And yet there is nowhere called “North”. How about the “Baltic Sea”? Nowhere called “Baltic” or “Balt”. Continuing east there is the “Black Sea”. Nowhere called “Black”. The “Caspian Sea” and nowhere called “Caspian” or “Casp”. It's a name. Nothing more. Geddit?
Think #9, etc.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cojinillos protect no bum-bones (neither does yr Propaganda Organ).
English or Spanish saddles both give a pain in the arse,
but the Brits know how to minimise such pain by rising to the trot.
Funny, the Brits seem to rise to most occasions ;-)
@57
Mar 30th, 2013 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUJAJAJA
bloody rubbish english people!
#58
Mar 30th, 2013 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We Brits have learned to rise to most occasions;
rubbish tends to fall in the other direction.
See you as we briefly pass, BBJ.
Sorry to have descended in my language, BBJ,
I addressed my comments to Think - he and I share a sense of humour in our little jousts.
LOL we don't want to govern pest we want the illegal aliens to go home as Mexican and gypsys are treated by the white man, the law says do to british as the british do to others. Pari passu for all or anarchy for all. Simple! Why would Argentina want to run this unwanted lot?? This turds sound a lot like comedians.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0WHY CAN'T WE DO THE SAME?.
Mar 30th, 2013 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I heard on the news last week that president from bolivia evo morales decided to demand chile before the i. c. j., in relation to it's claim for acceding to the sea.
Many people in this forum knows what i think about discussing the malvinas-falkland cause before the court. In fact i debated in different oportunities with many people about arg.'s proposals of arbitration in 1884 and in 1888, which were rejected by the u. k., and about the u. k's idea of discussing the case of the dependencies from the islands only, s. georgia and sandwhich in 1947.
During my investigations about the historic and the legal aspects of this question, i had an interview in 2010 with an ex professor of public international right, and i asked her wether she tought that taking the case to the i. c. j. was a good idea, and she answered me she agreeded on that step.
However, after 1947 none of the two nations proposed again to take the question to the i. c. j. I have always thought that if none of two countries proposes again to give that step, is because perhaps neather arg., nor the u. k. are sure of getting a positive result if the case is discussed before the court.
Anyway, beyond my thought, and beyond the omissions of both governments, we should wonder why can't we don the same than bolivia.
I think it's the only one way to finish with the u. k.'s hypocresy, every time it asks for the application of the right to self determination for this case, when that right actualy has never been applied by the u. n., as it was for other colonial situations, due to the d. c. from the u. n., has always considered this cause like a special colonial situation.
It's obvious and expectable that both governments tell just what is convenient for them, in reference to the historic and the legal aspects of this conflict, but we must be more intelligent, instead of buying so easily ther propaganda, like many people in this forum do.
#26 The reference to “countries and peoples” in the title of General Assembly resolution 1514 (XV) only makes more significant the use of the word “population” to describe the Falkland Islanders in General Assembly resolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Islands/Malvinas. As a population, it is inferred, the Falkland Islanders are not entitled to all the fundamental rights listed in 1514
Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@60 PH ALEX VARGAS
Apr 01st, 2013 - 05:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Where have you been since the Referendum???
Did you spend a few weeks in jail, again ????
You've been away for weeks, and yet - your post has NO content!
You are quite out of touch with Argentina, and quite irrelevant. :-)
@62
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Definition of “ population ” In society population refers to a collection of human beings. Now if we take that as read. Argentina in made up of a population of human beings ( correct ) They voted for a President ( bad choice but happens ) Therefore if the population can vote for President then the FALKLANDERS can vote to remain an BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY. YOU UNDERSTAND?
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