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Falkland Islands issue gets involved in Argentina’s 150th celebration of Welsh settlers in Patagonia
Argentine ambassador in London Alicia Castro revealed she has been meeting with Welsh MPs for the potential organization of the 150th anniversary of Welsh settlers in Patagonia in 2015. However Welsh sources said initial discussions broke down because the Argentine representatives were seeking people supportive of their views in the Falkland Islands dispute. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGinger lady misjudges the Welsh. You'd have thought that she would have connected the Welsh Guards Sir Galahad with the Welsh.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did she 'chicken or fish' them?
Implanted population?
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh no the stupid bints on the warpath again, ear defenders on.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“no regional country has recognized it as a legitimate voting process”. Interesting comment gone from the whole world to regional.
“Nothing. We are fully committed to respect their identity. They are British, they feel British and we respect that and their way of life”. If you respected them you ginger bint you'd fookin leave em alone.
Seeking people who are supportive in rgenweeners view on the Falklands dispute. There is no dispute they are a BOT end of dit, Alfie Moon says so.
Time to put this trolley dolly on the first flight to BA minus her return ticket and passport.
What!!! The RG Reich propaganda machine trying to wring out publicity from any anniversary or international occurrence to promote their lust to colonise the Falklands, surely not !!!
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Implanted population.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A cunning plan. Why don't the Welsh in Patagonia invade the rest of rgenweener, I'm sure they'd get plenty of volunteers to help and not much opposition, then we could travel to rgenweener for the 6 nations away game against Wales
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wales is going to be another country in uk seeking independence as Scotland .... niceee!
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 if that's what they want, then that's what they'll get. When is that XXI century colonial anachronism Patagonia going to be granted a referendum then?
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This news is about a year old. Move along. Nothing to see here.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0These slime ball Argentinian “diplomats”...(?)know no shame and will stop at nothing in order to claim “anything ”as support for their psychotic behaviour.To my Welsh bretheren in Patagonia...“”Iechyd da” boyo's....!!
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or not you plonker puerto.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are you really so undereducated?
@9 ... other than the sour ginger lady and the sour welsh-argentines who have acculturated into a peronist-hitlerist nightmare?
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Off topic what do you THINK we will get on 2nd April.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 well really nothing should happen, because Argentina said that the Junta at the time (1982) was totally wrong and they believe in only peace now, so in theory they should not celebrate the day the Junta invaded us. But being Argentina they lie, they will celebrate the Junta invading us. Fu**in crazy Argentines!
Mar 27th, 2013 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@7 peuto argentino
Mar 27th, 2013 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Only 7% of welsh back independence. I live in Wales, Cardiff; a great city and as british as the next city.
@15 What the Argies don't understand is that we all get a choice of how and who we want to be associated with, they don't understand Brits and they certainly don't understand freedom of choice.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 11:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@13 thats my theory as well. Crazy
Mar 27th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@15 don't know where peurto rgenweeno gets his info from the SNP have had thier lowest ever showing in the polls in the last few weeks, (I live in Scotland)they make one cock up after another and todays little revelation about cancer treatment will not help, they have no policies on defence, NATO, The EU, taxes, monetary policy, head of state in fact nowt, if you pressure them on it they call it scaremongering. Cardiff what a run ashore that was, Swansea weren't bad either.
God, the woman is incompetent! Most people of Welsh ancestry speak Spanish as their first language, not English, much less Welsh. Is Welsh an official language in the province of Chubut? Are the roadsigns bilingual? Do they get Radio Cymru and S4C. If the Falkland Islanders wanted to assmilate into a Spanish-speaking society like Argentina, they would have gone to Argentina in the first place.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0If the Falklanders are British then why did they not want to talk to them when Hague invited Timmerman to join them?
Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0surely if as they say they are all British then this would happily satisfy their “bilateral” talks
Read below again you, the deluded. You know who you are.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The idea you can compare the Welsh settlement from 150 years ago to the Falklands does not stand up to scrutiny. It is not as uncomplicated as Ambassador Castro suggests”.
Finally “I think it is an unfair comparison to look at the Welsh in Patagonia in the 1858/60 alongside XXIst century Falkland Islanders. It is just a different situation”.
Those original Welsh settlers who voluntarily went to Chubut in 1858-60 did so in the full knowledge that they were going to live in Argentine territory and be governed ultimatley by Argentine laws etc.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Those who voluntarily settled in the Falklands - some 15- 20 years earlier, did so in the knowledge that they would be in British territory and under british Laws etc.
A very clear simple difference - but clearly to much for a dumb Argy Lady.
Only the British can muster enough chutzpah to have the temerity of actually daring to turn a horrendous crime into some sort of magnanimous act.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 03:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0“We give a referendum to the Scots”
“We would give a referendum to the Welsh”
“We let go of our empire from the bottom of our hearts”.
“Why doesn't Argentina do the same”?
Well, because first of all, the second point is a non-starter. Since no province in Argentina, much less the Welsh Chubut, want to secede from the country, it is farcical to suggest and so logically British in logic to even dare suggest they are being denied a referendum. Unlike the UK and all other nations in Europe, Argentina is a rock solid union.
But secondly back to the first point. And let me address it with an analogy:
“I will grant and pay for an abortion of the woman I got pregnant”
“I will pay for all her medical expenses beyond that”
“I will pay for any psychological council”
Wow... what a fabulously kind-hearted rapist!!!
@22
Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0Its not the happy picture your are trying to paint. The way youve tried to distant Mendoza from BA and the rest of the country clearly shows that as well.
Why is Argentina so nationalistic? Its because of the fear of BA that the provinces would develop too strong a sense of their own identity and get too 'up themselves'. So as well as keeping the provinces dependent on funds a constant propaganda campaign is in effect.
Which is why you cant forget about 'ARGENTINA!' wherever you go in Argentina. Through flags monuments slogans etc or through media, 'education' etc. Its always within sight or hearing.
This is what a hysterical government does when its always worried about the country fracturing. Australia doesnt have its flag colours or monuments every few kilometres in the desert etc reminding people they are in -AUSTRALIA!- Not many countries do. Just the insecure least democratic ones
You are off your Tobers.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0You have no idea what you are talking about are you... how sad, trying to argue with an argentine about internal argentine matters. Not very smart.
I have never put any distance between Mendoza and anything else. I have just mentioned we are leaders within my own country. Which is true, I have never said we don't belong to Argentina, nor compared Mendoza to anyone else outside. Once again, your hatred of us gets you off the wrong track.
I am wondering which “desert” road you took in Argentina. You see I drive the roads and in Mendoza you can drive 100 kilometers on RN40 before you even see one flag... and that's usually only because there is school, in a small town.
The fact that a mediumly coherent British poster like you is now resorting to lies as well shows the level of hatred and vitriol that is emerging from that island nation.
I do find your third paragraph the funniest of the month though. When you are in Argentina, you seem not able to forget you are in Argentina.
Kinda like when one is in the UK, one has a hard time forgetting you are in the UK????
hahahahahahaha, you funny man.
Australia doesn't have a flag anyway. Or at least not one of their own. In Australia I would think I'm in the UK based on the flag.
Ive travelled extensively through Argentina. Ive also travelled extensively through Australia. You can travel a 1000 kilometres through Australia through dusty towns and not see a single Australian flag or national monument or at least not without looking for it. in Argentina you WILL see a flag, the flag colours a monument or something nationalistic regardless of the size or significance of the town, junction.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Also its interesting that you dont understand the concept of being able to forget about thinking about the nation and just getting on with your life. I don't think about my country most of the time . It appears you do and for the reasons Ive already given.
If nationalism helps us keep foreigners far away and from developing friendly relations with the world, then Blessed be Nationalism.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0There comes a point when an ambassadors behaviour as guest in a foreign country starts become innapropriate. She should be publicly summoned to the foreign office and warned.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 07 puerto argentino (#)
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0ha ha even your name makes me laugh!! puerto argentino, ha ha that didnt last long did it!!!??
wonder who Wales and Scotland would pick if tey given a choice between Argentina and Britain?? Also you fools speak like england have pulled scotland and wales in the UK against their will, it was actaully a Scotish King from the house of Stewart that united the UK. doesnt suprise me that you know fuck all because even this silly bitch doesnt have a clue if she thinks that wales will back argentinas ridiculous claims, i will pick up a gun anytime you vile people try you shit again, im from Wales by the way
@ John Troll 26,
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0quoting 24: “You have no idea what you are talking about ”
You are as bad as your government! just idle drivel.
BTW, When you speak do you need a roll of bog paper to mop-up the drivel from your front?
A welsh sect went there to protect our Welsh way of life and the language from becoming more and more English. I find it pretty ironic, the main language is Spanish instead of English and those who still speak Welsh, speak a dialect that is different from the two Welsh dialects at home and they speak it with a ”Spanish accent!'. It would appear to have been a good idea in the planning but a shit idea in execution!
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Meanwhile back at home, Merrionnydd where they immigrated from is almost exclusively Welsh, all over Wales welsh is taught in schools, more and more youngsters are speaking the language. There is a multi lingual national assembly, courts are in welsh, bilingual road signs with welsh the first language, welsh radio and TV etc,etc.
Like I said, IRONIC!
@22 No reason not to give the patagonians a referendum then, well at least the ones you didn't kill.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0The photo reminds me of Babs the taxi driver from League of Gentlemen.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I've only been taking these hormones a week and me nipples are like bullets!”
Castro : “150.000 British descendents live in Argentina happily, prosperously “ . That should read “150.000 British descendents live in Argentina ”
Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Pension theft , high taxes and farming retentions and fears for personal safety have made all people unhappy and poor , NOT prosperous .
Daft thieving bint .
So, I think we need a project post-mortem here for our intellectually confined friends from CFK's government. This latest attempt to skulk around and find people to support their claim has also ended in failure. Even when people have been found, the net result has been a failure. Put it another way (ttt, need your help here) they have lost, not won, failed to succeed, not achieved the objective...
Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0So let's review the project. What were the objectives, requirements, premises, success criteria? Were all of those badly chosen ? Was lying constantly part of the execution methodology, or was that a technique developed purely for this project? Was lying a good thing? Would you use it as part of the programme of work given the failure of this project.
What about costs? Given the abject failure of the project, was it worth spending tax payers money on in these cost conscious times? Were the right personnel involved, how were they performance managed and how has the failure of this project been reflected in their compensation? Did they have a plan B? Did they have a plan A? Was there a second point on any agenda at anytime ? If it existed did it include the word Malvinas or not?
What are the next steps? Are you going to run the same project again, with the same personnel, premise, methodology? If so why? What is it about this project objective that allows unabashed failure to be a result that you are happy with?
Report on my desk by 8am please.
As you
@34
Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0You misunderstand the project.
The project is not to gain sovereignty of the Falklands. Only the most ridiculous retards like Marcos, Raul, Malvinero and Jose think that is the aim.
The project is to divert news streams away from the dog turd of an economy, the blatant corruption, and complete breakdown of civilised society.
The government are using Nationalism (National Socialism) as the lowest common denominator to detract attention. CFK and Tinpot know full well the Falklands will NEVER be Argentine and never were....they just want the retards concentrating on something other than the horseshit mess they've made of Argentine.
Guess what...there are currently sufficient retards.
”Challenged on whether the way of life of Falkland Islanders would change if they came under Argentine rule ambassador Castro affirmed, “Nothing. We are fully committed to respect their identity. They are British, they feel British and we respect that and their way of life”.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0So committed to repecting their identitiy that if a Falkland Islander goes near an Argentinian politicitian they sh1t themselves and run a mile.
Your country won't talk to the Islanders now. So as you refuse to acknowledge they exist, how is that a sign of respect for their identity?
Because all this is another Argentine exercise in their greatest and most successful activity.
The spouting of BULLSHIT
If Argentina made any money out of the lies they keep telling the world, they would be the richest nation on earth.
@35 - So its an unmitigated success! That's excellent. But given your update, maybe I should be reviewing the “Running a country sensibly” project. Or will you spin doctor that failure into the success that is “Lining the pockets of CFK” ?
Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whats happened to the DoDgyThinko show?
Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0@36 Pete Bog
Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina already thinks it is the richest nation on earth.
“no regional country has recognized it as a legitimate voting process”
Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0There it is again. REGIONAL. I thought the world supported Argentina's claim? It seems Argentina is scaling back it's own claims on how well supported their claim is! It is all about claims with Argentina. Nothing concrete.
@24 John Troll the 3rd
“You have no idea what you are talking about are you... how sad, trying to argue with an argentine about internal argentine matters. Not very smart.”
Argentines are constantly arguing with Falkland Islanders regarding internal matters in the Falklands, and constantly telling Islanders that they are wrong and do not have the right to decide what happens in their own islands....not very smart.
@40 That's because in the Latin American region, 'legitimate voting' means having previously been paid a few pesos to vote for a corrupt authoritarian right-wing government that proclaims it's really left wing.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0They don't recognise the vote in the falklands, simply because they don't 'recognise' it. Without having money exchange hands, it's simply nothing like they've seen before.
Having traveled throughout much of Chebut province and Patagonia generally, I would say the Welsh connection is very thin indeed nowadays. A handful of Welsh flags to mark a historic rather than current connection, a couple of supposedly welsh tea shops strictly for tourist consumption, maybe a few old buildings that you might recognise as welsh design if you were looking for it- little else. I chatted to a lady in one of the tea shops who basically admitted that there is barely anyone around now who can speak more than a few words of Welsh, almost all fluent speakers having died out generations ago. The practical reality too is that after 8-10 generations the welsh bloodline is extremely diluted. These people are now as Argentine as anyone else in Argentina.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0@42 do they even have noodle-mining there any more?
Mar 28th, 2013 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@34. Indeed, the only people to gain from sovereignty resolution would be the Islanders because they hold every willing card in the deck, where as the AR trump cards are fantasy written in crayon (and you can't play an Old Maid in poker no matter how well you draw her). Even if the laws of reality and related sign changes were to flip over the equator, AR winning sovereignty would be a disaster for AR. It would solve none of their problems. They would still have to criminalize accurate statistics, they would still clamp down on dollars and the press, and the would would see that Ms Castro is a GD liar over respecting the rights of the islanders as fascist AR puts its jackboot down on the face of their new colony.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Patagonia is British. Give it back.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@36
Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Argentina does not talk to the islanders for a more fundamental reason: outside of the sovereignty obsession of Argentina which I agree must end, there is no reason whatsoever for Argentina to meet the islanders and discuss any Argentine internal policy.
35 Monkeymagic (#)
Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mar 28th, 2013 - 09:12 am
Your post is 100% spot on!!!!!!
If, by some incredible chance, the Islanders decided that they wanted to join us poor slobs, CFK and her troupe of buffoons would have multiple heart attacks because they would not have the “Malvinas” myth to blow smoke in our eyes when the economy goes tits up as usual!!!!!!!
As to the Welsh Colony in Chubut, it was started to save the Welsh language from erosion by contact with English, and the understanding reached with the Argentine Government in 1865 was that the colonists would be allowed to keep their language, culture and customs for ever. This agreement was complied with by successive governments until Perón came to power and forbade the teaching of Welsh in the schools. At this point in time probably less than 10% of the Chubut Welsh speak Welsh, there are about 50.000 people of Wels descent, not 79.000, living in Argentina.
“If, by some incredible chance, the Islanders decided that they wanted to join us poor slobs”
Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are using the wrong word there at the end.
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It's “you” not “us”. You are not argentine end of story.
@48 tween troll tobias
Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you really have nothing to say do you?
struggling to be involved in the discussion, and failing.
unfortunately for you, your trivial mud-slinging and flippant unrelated distractions are recognised as just that.
And nothing more. :-(
You still don't get it do you. I don't deem anyone of you worthy enough of discussing with me.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@50 You speak Spanish so it's highly probable that you are poor.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sucks to be you.
I do know Latin that's for sure, and you can't even do “Non-sequiturs” correctly.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 46
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why on earth would the FALKLANDERS want anything to do with Argentina. Tell us what would be the advantages. Please, serious question, how could Argentina enhance the quality of life that the FALKLANDERS currently have?
I never said the Falklanders need to have anything to do with us.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I said Argentina does not need to answer to them for internal affairs.
I read an article about a Argentine vet, is gt grandad came from Port Talbot, he could not speak Welsh. If you know Port Talbot, you will know why. They sent him there because of his knowledge of English. Interestingly, he was found taking shelter in Stanley Cathedearal with his mates, by a British soldier. When he spoke to him in English, the soldier cocked his weapon. This guy called it unproffesional. Unproffesional, fuck me! Your in a war and when you make your weapon ready on discovering the enemy, your unproffesional! Not a term I would use to describe British armed forces.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Saying that, he seemed a nice guy, I am glad he survived. In war there are winners and survivors or should that be, survivors and survivors!
@54
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are dodging my questions. What can Argentina possibly offer the FALKLANDERS?
Well Argentina used to offer them very good doctors in city clinics, shopping trips, very convenient flight transfers to anywhere in the world without visa and shorter flight times, economic trade, cultural exchange, the chance for them to visit relatives in the Argentine mainland of which there were plenty in Santa Cruz, easier logistics for their oil development, fisheries agreements, etc.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0None of which would benefit Argentina because its like comparing a flea to an elefant economically.
But Argentina is no longer interested in any of that, because it simply has no importance in Argentine foreign policy or economics, to engage the Falklanders. Just like the UK is rightfully uninterested in talking sovereignty.
@57
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Christ, no wonder they want no part of your deal. I lived in Argentina for a over 2 years. I understand that 1( good doctors in Puente Arenas, 2, LAN flights,3 economic trade ( only using the black market U$D ) 4 How many FALKLANDERS have relatives in Santa Cruz? 5 Nestor tore up the agreements regarding oil developments, fisheries agreements. SORRY failed, must try harder, must have been on your school reports. I have every respect for the average Argentinian as I have lived with them, but have to say you do not come across as an average Argentinian.
@58
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have respect for people you trash here behind their backs? Interesting, but I've learned well the UK-euro logic in this forum.
@ 59
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When on here I speak in general. I have every respect for the average Argentinian, but you have to look at your Government. My father in law was an Abrogado and slept with a .45 automatic under his pillow and bars on his windows, you will not find that in the FALKLANDS on UK for that matter. You are misguided in my opinion. In 20 years time the FALKLANDS GDP will be something to admire, but I am sorry to say where will be Argentina, absolutely broke. You think that Latam countries will come to your rescue. Look over your shoulder becauce they will be laughing their socks off. Shame really because I like Argentina as a country.
I've never slept with a gun in my entire life. Sorry.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As usual, people making predictions that Argentina will be the only country in the world to be broke in X years. Just pure hyperbole, typical Eurotalk.
John Troll the 3rd
Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More of the same old bile
Don't worry poor child - we will troll for you
@62
Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You admit you do not live in Argentina then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sis2e73qP_Y&feature=related
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Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 65 El Capitan
Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are probably right, Susie, but you are overlooking the fact that they WERE Welsh several generations ago, now they are Argentinos :-D
Jesus Christ CASTRO are the SPANIARDS, GERMANS, ITALIANS that have been in Argentina 150 years still their original nationalities, gods sake woman talk sense, sorry you are forgiven you are an Argentinian politition. ( does'nt count) same as the Junta invading the FALKLANDS ( does'nt count ). Gotta laugh eh?
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Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You will notice we also have a “El Capitan” who post's on these threads...he/she and I are two completely different people....Please take note..!!
Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry 69 I have noted
Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentine representatives were seeking people supportive of their views in the Falkland Islands dispute.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Corrupt to the core,
Incompetence, stupidity , and childish,
But what else can you ever expect from a indocronought.
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No such thing as Argentine Welsh, they are all dead. If their descendants want to be Welsh again and speak Welsh. They should leave that Spanish shithole and emmigrate back to Wales.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Whoops, not that east, cos the fuckers are Argentine, not Welsh!
Seriously though, what a bunch of pricks, travel half way round the the world so they do not have to speak English. This is the best bit, really is, they wind up speaking Spanish.. lmfao
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Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0@22 Unlike the UK and all other nations in Europe, Argentina is a rock solid union.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is that supposed to be a good thing? Anyway, there's more cohesion between the UK and the Republic of Ireland than there is between different parts of Argentina. People from the rest of Argentina dislike Buenos Aires even more than people in Britain outside London dislike London. Buenos Aires could be moved to Italy and no one in the rest of Argentina would care.
And if Argentine society is so 'rock solid', then why are there those huge self-contained gated communities like Nordelta in Buenos Aires, which are called 'countries'?
As for Australia still using a Blue Ensign, so what? The Argentine flag looks like the Honduran and Nicaraguan ones - Canada's flag is more distinct. Better evolution than revolution, anyway, - if being a republic is oh so modern and democratic why all the military coups and juntas?
I'd like to relocate the Argentine Embassy in London to Foulness island in the Thames Estuary, which would be under its jurisdiction - Argentine laws, taxes, etc, and settled by Argentines. However, as it would be a corrupt crack den with hyperinflation, the Argentine settlers would be begging to be returned to British jurisdiction in no time.
Are you submitting your resume for Top Moron of Mercopress? It's not too shabby.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 04:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0You really have no clue and are talking out of your own arse, befitting your chosen name “britanico”. You people really believe that talking absolute nonsense and lies will somehow make them suddenly true. Well in that you have more in common with the “malvinistas” than you may want to admit.
Since when are gated communities a sign of national disunity? If that's so then the USA is the most dysfunctional nation in the world... they are the Kings of gated communities along with Brazil.
Finally, and the most eye-catching part of your resume for Moron of Mercopress, is your hopelessly errant blunder about the Argentine flag. No doubt a product of your useless British education, but the reason the Honduran flag, and the Salvadorian, or Nicaraguan, or Guatemalan, or Uruguayan, or Paraguayan and Costa Rican to a lesser extent resemble Argentina's flag... is *gasp*, their flags where calqued from ours!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Republic_of_Central_America
Another British buffoon trying to disparage Argentina bites the dust.
Stay in your island fool, no one in their right minds want to join your disintegrating union.
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Mar 29th, 2013 - 06:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not sure why this debate gets occasionally side tracked into discussion of the Australian flag- Australia is a democracy and can change it's flag (including removing the union jack) any time the majority of citizens wish to do so, IF they wish to do so. I imagine it's precisely the same with the Falkland Islands- entirely a matter for it's citizens to decide what flag they want and, and no-one else's business.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0@74britanico
Mar 29th, 2013 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nice post, Britanico - it shows the childish Argentine contradictions in their assertions.
And now, tiny teen troll is having a public temper tantrum about it, right in the aisle of the supermarket.
Sorry, tantrum troll toby, stomping your feet won't change anything, Timerman tried that...
Johm trol (whatever) “Australia doesn't have a flag anyway. Or at least not one of their own. In Australia I would think I'm in the UK based on the flag.”
Mar 29th, 2013 - 08:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0I you ever visit Australia YOU may think that; however, that is a reflection on your own ignorance and personal prejudice. The usual visitor respects the right of a country to have whatever national symbols it choices.
But there are, unfortunately, the few who view the world through a prism so narrow that they see nothing but there own bs.
Same could be said for the state of Hawaii if you look at their flag, and they've got nothing to do with the UK whatsoever.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having the Union Flag on your flag makes it look quite cool.
@79
Mar 29th, 2013 - 12:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I have already stated I am racist against Europeans.
@78
You didn't even attempt to refute anything I said. Because you are not intellectually capable, but also because it's hard to muster the effort to challenge the truth, isn't it.
@81 Tony Teen Troll
Mar 29th, 2013 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have nothing of relevance to say and you rant so much nonsense that I get you and Sussie mixed up now - especially as he is posting as John (Pope) III.
Pointless to have anything to do with you two, dysfunctional, sexually-confused, frustrated misfits.
@22 Are you criticising? You with your genocidal “Conquest of the Desert” on the paper you call a currency? But let's stick with your analogy.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I will grant and pay for an abortion of the woman I got pregnant” Why would you do such a thing after murdering her husband and raping her? As you did in your 2 “Conquests of the Desert”.
“I will pay for all her medical expenses beyond that” Don't be silly. Normal argie response is “She's a savage. She can produce or die. Why would we care?”
“I will pay for any psychological council” Another typical argie response. “Get on and drop it. You have work to do.” Latinos have always been known for their brutality and arrogance. It's why we Brits have always enjoyed killing them!
@24 Why? Are you blind as well as thick? You can't see the 6 stars? Ever tried the Hawaiian flag? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Hawaii.svg
@26 South-east South America. New British missile range and nuclear “test” site. Then we might keep away. Except for the scientists. And the troops.
@48 Wrong. The correct word is “wee”. Meaning “small”. Or, possibly, “piss”. Argies being piss-poor little people with tiny minds. Wherever they are.
@50 So piss off. But you won't, will you? You have the desperate need to insert your ha'porth worth of drivelling garbage in order to justify your pointless existence.
@54 Depends on what you class as “internal”. Argieland seems to think it has the “right” to “demand” that the Islands “answer” for an “internal” Falklands/British matter. A simple proposition. If you can't take it, don't hand it out. But then your “nationality” seems to change to whatever you deem “suitable”.
@57 So, never offered anything of real use.
@59 Learned nothing. Still that's an animal for you.
@81 He wasn't talking to you. Notice how people prefix their comments. Sorry, you don't have that much brain. One “refutes” something by addressing remarks to the person that made them. You don't qualify as a “person”.
Pathetic Argie politcians. Interesting to note that running through the US papers when the 'Falklands' are mentioned whereas 75% of those writing in used to be for the UK stance but lately it seems to have gone up to 95% pro UK. I believe this is down to the referendum and stupid comments made by CFK, Tin Man and Co about squatters having no rights. LOL.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0John Troll the 3rd If you hate Europeans so much, especially 'los británicos', then you should use an indigenous name. Can you speak an indigenous language? Or even name one? Before you accuse me of being a monoglot Anglo-Saxon, I speak Irish better than most Irish people.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My useless British-style education involved learning Spanish, but conjugating verbs properly, none of this vos podés nonsense. Real Castilian Spanish, not that silly Italian patois you have the cheek to call 'castellano'. Mind you, I much prefer to speak Portuguese, none of those yucky guttural sounds.
Gated communities may not be a sign of national disunity, but they are a sign of a lack of cohesion. See this documentary - http://leben-in-seifenblasen.ch/English/E-doku.html South Africa has abandoned apartheid, Argentina is embracing it.
So the flag of the defunct Federal Republic of Central America was inspired by Argentina, not the other way around - who cares? Costa Rica's flag looks way better with a darker shade of blue, and with red instead of yellow - instead of this monstrosity - http://leben-in-seifenblasen.ch/English/E-doku.html
Sure, nobody wants to join the UK, not even the overseas territories, but that's just as well as the UK has said it doesn't want it either. After Malta's Prime Minister demanded too much money, British governments haven't been too wild. (He decided to ally himself with Libya under Gadaffi instead, in exchange for cheap oil.)
Germany was at its most peaceful and prosperous when it was a patchwork of small principalities and city states. Small is beautiful - and more prosperous, like Singapore, which actually voted to join Malaysia only to be expelled a couple of years later.
Argentina bombarding European cities? I'm quaking in my boots. I'd be only slightly more afraid of China, and the worst it's done is have monolingual Chinese advertisements on London buses. What are you going to do, force feed us corned beef and tango us to death?
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Mar 29th, 2013 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So what does that make you, then?
Mar 29th, 2013 - 08:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0John Troll the 3rd is an American English speaker, in British English we say 'CV' (short for 'Curriculum Vitae') not 'resume'.
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Mar 29th, 2013 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you don't like Mercopress, then F**K OFF THEN
TOODLEPIP YOU BITCH
So your nationality is Anti-British, then?
Mar 29th, 2013 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 81:“I have already stated I am racist against Europeans.”
Mar 30th, 2013 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh well, that admission makes your commentenatry acceptable does it?
Forgive me for missing what you 'have already stated', I stopped reading your dribble after your first post.
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Mar 30th, 2013 - 03:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0@87. You need to brush up on your cultural literacy. CV is very much used in the US for professionals. “Resume” ~is~ also used in the US, but for people looking for a job in the mail room. Of course, we are talking here about the pathetic loser who equated Saddam Hussein to Poland at the end of 2012 in a childish fit of whataboutery which showed his true sick character, so yeah, “Resume” fits him.
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Mar 30th, 2013 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure you all have noticed that all “ Comment removed by the editor ” are all comments made by the intelligencia of Argentina, obviously trying to gain a no 1 position as the most useless poster on this forum. And the winner is.................?
Mar 30th, 2013 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lets have a poll, I feel it is SUSSIE ( in her numerous guises )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sis2e73qP_Y&feature=related
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Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Challenged on whether the way of life of Falkland Islanders would change if they came under Argentine rule ambassador Castro affirmed, “Nothing. We are fully committed to respect their identity. They are British, they feel British and we respect that and their way of life”.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 07:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bullshit..!! They will immediately move to out-number the English speaking kelpers with Argies. Since only a tiny number would want to go there and pay their own way, they would implant thousands of unemployed RG's already on Cristina F**K's payroll under her “state benefits if you vote for us” programme. The sudden increase in crime and other behavioural differences will create problems and tension between the 2 populations and in every case CFK's mob will be given the benefit of the doubt. Within a few years most of the English-speakers will be ethnically-cleansed otherwise they will always be a reminder of the British connection.
@98 They released a nice advert from the presidency last year that showed the islands post ethnic cleansing, with everyone speaking spanish, looking latino and school-children saluting the flag of Argentina. This came under the title of 'the future of the falkland islands'.
Mar 31st, 2013 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There seems to be a contradiction between what Ambassador Caster-oil is saying and the messaging coming out of the Office of the president which is clearly pro-clearance.
So which do we trust, the liar or the fascist?
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Apr 01st, 2013 - 02:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@98,99 pro-Fslklands team
Apr 01st, 2013 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lies lies and damned lies!
CFK and Alicia Cascara have to go!!
and yes, Sussie, YOU “care” lol
@100 So who do we trust the liar or the fascist?
Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0@102
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Bet you wait a long time for an answer, one and the same, Methinks
Don't know why the Argie trolls on here just don't give up. I suppose it gives them something to do while waiting for their unemployment benefit cheque to arrive.
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Apr 01st, 2013 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@104 Of course there are no argie trolls. They are all dainty little fairies
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@92 Thanks for the tip.
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Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@98Shed time
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0I looked up that ad on You Tube
http://youtu.be/3uf4tVTrSQo
to be fair, they do show one Brit-type reading the Penguin News.
Is that a show of 'tolerance'?
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