A stadium in Brazil that was due to host athletics at the 2016 Olympics has been closed indefinitely because of structural problems with its roof. The Joao Havelange stadium in Rio de Janeiro was built only six years ago. It was also being used as the main football venue in Rio, while the city's Maracana stadium is being renovated for next year's World Cup. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesThey're Latin Americans so they can just blame it on the USA.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nah, they've probably already called us to figure out how to fix it.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Brazilian engineering...sheesh no wonder the wind will blow it over.
They're not ready to join the big boys and probably not in my lifetime either.
@2 Yeh, because let's face it Haliburton are really good at using things like concrete to make cement casings (Montara oil spill, Deep water horizon) and Dow chemicals are really good at making pipes fit together (Bhopal Chemical Disaster).
Mar 27th, 2013 - 11:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's not like you were able to fix that hole in the sea floor without expecting british petroleum engineering to sort it out for you.
Glass houses... stones much?
Gawd help them if they ask for USA help - they'll either just sit on the fence doing nothing or stab them in the back.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 04:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 03 Shed-time
Mar 27th, 2013 - 04:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I suspect a visit to the rev is in order to have him calm you down.
(What do they call the delusionist in charge of your sect?)
3 shed-time
Mar 27th, 2013 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Transocean and Halliburton repeatedly warned BP about the cement, but BP wanted to cut all corners/money possible, even BP admits this.
security council you're having a laugh...
Mar 27th, 2013 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Doh!!!!
Mar 27th, 2013 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@5 You can call him Geoff if you like. What do you call the delusionist in charge of your not-sect?
Mar 27th, 2013 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@6 Yes and Haliburton doesn't have a track record of doing dodgy well-heads. So I'm sure BP said please do us another dodgy well head with your dodgy cement, and haliburton said 'sure'. Makes a lot of sense.
Now you can get back to using non-american firms like a patsy-ATM, because I'm sure no american banks have ever laundered money from mexican drug cartels.... ever.
lol, u sound jelly and mad, shed-time
Mar 27th, 2013 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing wrong with laundering money from cartels btw, we are the big dogs, and we do as we please, including destabilizing insignificant countries like yours, or Mexico's
It's latino. Of course it's shit. What else did anyone expect? They'd be hard put to build a satisfactory brick shit-house.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think Shed is doing a rather good 'Glasshouses & Stones' argument.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 08:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The truth is, accidents do happen in human industry - even Chevron could not control a geological offshore fracture in Brasil. Yes, no complacency, but recognise that the big players working at the limits of their new technologies will not avoid every accident.
But it does seem that every national accident looks for foreigners to first blame. It's just the same in drugs, banking and laundering.
You know the argument that 'only those without sin ....'
But doin sin on purpose is somethin else agin!
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Mar 27th, 2013 - 09:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No such thing as sin. This is a system of evolution, not religion. Big dog wins. Every country in the world subjugates some smaller, poorer country, Argentina has done it for decades to other south american countries. Subjugate or be subjugated, that's the name of the game.
@9 Shed-time
Mar 27th, 2013 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't see how not believing in something that cannot be proven by any reasonable technique understood by everyone is delusional and funnily enough I don't have NOR do I need someone to tell me what to do with my life.
@9 That's because as a proponent of the texts of Richard Dawkins you are a fundamentalist positivist, choosing that anything you've not personally seen or capable of measuring simply doesn't exist. I don't ascribe to that philosophy, as I am aware even much of science is based on myth, theory and simplification.
Mar 27th, 2013 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So instead you have Richo to tell you what to do with your life, and I have God. We're not that different at all really.
It's nothing to get all angry about. Just get on with life and all that.
lol Shed-time has god aka schizophrenia. Congrats on your mental illness and voices in your head
Mar 28th, 2013 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0@16 Reality to me might be having morning tea with pixies and unicorns, and you'd never know. Nor would you have any evidence to suggest it happened. Instead we'd just sit there and laugh about your inability to understand other people's experiences are not the same as your own. The unicorn would probably then make a joke about how you soil yourself in bed at night and we'd chuckle and pass around the cakes.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Get over it, I did.
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Mar 28th, 2013 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0I understand your schizophrenia, and I don't soil myself....that's a very strange accusation...makes me wonder if you don't do that yourself.
@18 You, I and everyone commenting know that before bed you read the God Delusion on loop, think romantic thoughts about you and Richard Dawkins having a stroll together, then you remember how grey atheism is and soil your underpants.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 11:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Don't deny it to yourself.
15 Shed-time
Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Remember your little diatribe against atheists and me in particular a few months ago, when I had not even addressed you in a post? You brought up Dawkins then and at that time I explained I had not even read his work but would do so. Having done so I found them over elaborate because the uses the 'tell them three times technique'.
So you are quite wrong as usual and your post @19 is just juvenile.
The one thing I always say when delusional people challenge me to explain what happened before the Big Bang is this: I don't know, but I DO know that the answer will be provided by the scientists at the time and not by some paedophile got up in a fancy dress.
Clearly you have never studied science or even thought in some logical manner why some 'answers' are based on theory (I do not know any science other than Christian Science which is based on a myth) and always qualified as such. They act as signposts for future scientists to prove OR disprove, because we deal in facts. Even the 'God Particle' (called that for a piss-take frankly) has now been proven to exist.
And for your comment ‘Get over it, I did’, you have clearly demonstrated that you are far from over it.
Still, as long as you have your Unicorn I have no doubt you will be happy.
@20 Ah, the cliche that is 'the hypocritical thiests are picking on me' strategy. It always makes me laugh how you folks go around telling people what to think and then when people disagree with you, you call them delusional.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 12:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your very own discussion on what science is or isn't discredits what you are trying to say. Scientific thinking exists in many forms and it's not for me to tell you what the philosophical underpinnings of your own belief system are. You seem to ascribe to logical positivism and yet you don't really seem to get what it means. Of course science is built on theory and not fact, and ultimately science is based upon one person's subjective evaluation of data. For 1000's of years we all believed 'facts' like objects kept moving if you stopped pushing them, then we believed 'facts' like objects had forces that slowed them down, then we had facts like objects couldn't travel over certain speeds, and now we're questioning those facts.
It seems all those 'facts' to which you cling seem to change a whole lot, i.e. they are non-static beliefs held based upon another person's subjective interpretation of reality.
You keep clinging to objective realities all you want, and I'll stick with my Unicorn, because let's fact it, the Unicorn is probably more interesting to have a beer with than you grey athiests constantly botting on about things you don't really understand, like the basics of philosophy.
Have we finished here?
shed-time
Mar 28th, 2013 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You're a nutcase and a spazz
21 Shed-time
Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is scientists who question scientific facts and either disprove or prove them, as I indicated above.
Please tell me when ANY Church Leader questioned religion in any meaningful way, leading to a new phase of knowledge in religion. Just one will do.
@22 Thanks, dude.
Mar 28th, 2013 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@23 I'll give you two: John Wycliffe, and Martin Luther.
Have you finished militant atheisting me yet? Can I go now?
24 Shed-time
Mar 28th, 2013 - 08:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well that was my fault. I thought we were in the present time, but what do I get:
John Wycliffe: 1302, pre-dates Henry VIII but for better reasons. Likes the fact that after 43 years your friends in the church dug him up, burnt his remains and threy them in the river: nice people. Protestant of course.
Martin Luther: 16th century German who was the original antisemetic which blew all his good work on not paying money to get to heaven, etc and left him a controversial figure. Protestant of course.
Want to try again from 1900?
The stadium in Natal has time problems, and now Rio.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Why not move everything to a more efficient country?
@25 Not really, I'm a bit bored of jumping through your hoops. To be fair, being cremated and have your ashes thrown into a babbling brook seems quite a nice idea.
Mar 29th, 2013 - 09:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think that's quite a fitting end to this thread.
lol, you jump through our hoops
Mar 31st, 2013 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0#26
Mar 31st, 2013 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Its important that the great world sporting events spread to the developing countries, even though their sporting facilities are, well ... developing.
Not every country will, or can, throw billions of 'dollars' at the national provision, so just suck it up and live with it, even if some are inconvenienced or even die ... that's sport, even more important than life and death to many people.
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Mar 31st, 2013 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That's not the issue.
To spend half a BILLION of Reais on a stadium that is is used only 4 times during the FIFA is absurd. Instead of upgrading the existing one, they broke it down for a new one. Which is most likely not finished in time. Neither is the new, unnecessary airport.
So many people jealous because the Olypic Games aren't going to be in their countries, and becasue neither it the World. To the north-americans and brits, when was the last time your countries won a World Cup? Haters always gonna hate, can't do anything about that. Don't come to Brazil and don't watch the World Cup on tv, that might make you feel better. The brits can stick to cricket (if that can even be considered a real sport), and the north-americans can stick to their football with their jocks in tight spandex pants and helmets so they won't get hurt. Funny how this site states this is an olympic embarrasement when it's not a stadium that's going to be used in the Olympics, which are in 2016. Personally I'd rather not have the World Cup or Olympics in Brazil, to me that's a waste of money. But you north-americans and europeans are just hating. Grow up!
Apr 05th, 2013 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 031 Brazilian
Apr 05th, 2013 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So I bet they are building new barracks next to the futbol stadiums for the Militry Police to live in while they keep the footballer thugs in control, eh?
Or was that ALL down to the Argies being robbed 5 -2?
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