The Union of South American Nations, Unasur expressed deep concern and called on all sides involved to ensure the preservation of peace and security in the Korean peninsula. Read full article
In 1967, Israel once used military exercises of Arab armies near its borders to declare a pre-emptive war against its neighbors and steal large chunks of their territories, after which it ethnically cleansed them in order to make room for Jewish settlements. Considering the West widely applauded that policy back then, why can't they understand North Korea's position now? Why must the North understand that the US and the South choose to practice their military drills so close its borders?
As for Kim Jong-Un's nuclear threats - well, it's a bit rich for the US to be so outraged. What about Obama's threats against Iran, that every option against that country is on the table; what are we to make of it?
This is real world politics dealing with a madman, self imposed closeted and isolated regime playing mine is bigger than yours. In the end he will lose his if Kim Jong No-one does not grow up. RG's, watch this closely, it could be you.
I think Unasur needs to step back, close their mouths and let the adults deal with this. They want to play peacemakers, shut their crazy little sister up, Argentina and stop them from harassing the Falklander's.
2 - Anglotino: By contrast, everyone knows that, when Britain speaks, North Korea listens!
3 - slattzzz: I don't where you got the impression that Unasur is quiet about the FI; we speak a lot about, having thrown all of our weight behind Argentina's demands. But please, the Anglo-Argentinian brawl is nowhere as important as saber-rattling between nuclear powers. Quit being a self-centered whiner.
Next time they have one of the mass rallies to show support (get food ration chits) we should send a nice little welcome package and take out the city along with the 2MM supporters in the square.
Easy Peasy
@1 Between 1966 and 1967 Israel’s borders saw repeated Arab terrorist attacks and Syrian military activity. On May 11, UN Secretary General U Thant leveled criticism at Syria for its sponsorship of Palestinian terrorism, denouncing those attacks as deplorable, insidious and menaces to peace. That's a bit different, isn't it? How about The Straits of Tiran was regarded by the Western Powers and Israel as an international waterway but its legal status was the subject of international controversy. The Arabs believed that they had the right to regulate passage of ships while Israel, with the support of other major world powers, countered that the Arab claims were legally not supportable. In 1967 Israel reiterated declarations made in 1957 that any closure of the Straits would be considered an act of war, or a justification for war. On May 22, Nasser declared the Straits closed to Israeli shipping. Nasser stated he was open to referring the closure to the International Court of Justice to determine its legality, but this option was rejected by Israel. Egyptian propaganda attacked Israel, and on May 27, Nasser stated Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight. So we can conclude that you are in favour of cross-border terrorism and deliberate acts of provocation?
Moreover, can you identify the formation of, and significant events in the history of the nation of Palestine? Useful things like a list of rulers perhaps?
What the hell the Unasur has to do with that conflicto....That is a big dogs fight, not little street's dogs....
Better they would be concerned about the Venezuelan election to be not manipulated by the regime. or the freedom in LA.....mainly where the Unasur creation promotors come from....(A, V, E, N & B).....
Or, at least, has the balls to says directly to the communist North Korea regime that it must stop the threaten over its neighbors and be more proactive to food the cpuntry´s people which is one of the poorest in the world while the army is tone of the biggest in the world.....
@8 I think it's more to do with looking like you're some kind of world leader. There are about 127 different south american despotic groupings that probably made a similar statement, but it wouldn't make sense to print them all.
9@ So...If I ask to our regional group to be concerned of our own problems (that are very much and big ones) instead dedícate its time to problems that are responsability of other boards make me an south american despotic ....well then I´m ....And, please, don´t think Unasur is a kind of world leader...because it doesn't at all....just a lot of little princes playing games...
@11 Read the comment again, Sergio. He isn't saying anything of the sort. As a matter of interest, what do you think about mercosur and unasur? I think they're despotic. What do you think?
@11 I would agree, it's just little princes playing games. But they like to be seen as big princes, which no one other than themselves would agree with.
Yes, I think Kim the Younger will potentiate a S.K. armed retaliation.
His dad did it once before when he bombarded a S.K. island a couple of years ago, and he was lucky that S.K. did not retaliate.
And he was also lucky when N.K. sunk a S.K. ship.
The South Korean leader has today given her military the right of unfettered response,
so the seeds are sown for a new Korean war with parties in the peninsular becoming 'bombed into the Stone Age' using the weaponry and the massed 'Advisors' of the superpower, the USA, and the rising power, China. Or, at least, South Korea risks the return to 'the Stone Age'; North Korea, as a nation, is probably already there.
But perhaps the USA has learned to now conduct its wars at arm's length using its vastly superior technology. The Koreas will probably be the new weapons testing ground for both the big beasts. God help the Korean common man.
@15 ROK folks are a proud bunch. I'm not sure they will be able to take this 'being a bigger man' much longer, but DPRK is desperate for food, oil and high-value brandy. The only way they can get this is through perpetual whinging and war-mongering.
I simply do not agree that the USA of all nations, being the only one in history to use nuclear weapons on a civilian population has any right to tell any nation if they should be allowed nuclear weapons.
A simple fact is that the people of north Korea love there leader and anyone who has been there will attest to this.
I am a very pro USA British person, but when it comes to the use of nuclear weapons. i do not see how the USA can tell anyone anything.
#18 define right ? Under that premise any country that went to war should not be telling others not to go to war as well. I think if you asked any British relative of survivors of Japanese POW camps, victims of the Bataan Death March, the Chinese if using atomic weapons to hasten the surrender of the Japanese, I think they would beg to differ. Maybe you just don't have any relatives who fought the Japanese. Japan may have started the war, we have no compunction of finishing the way we did. They could have surrendered after the first bomb, but they refused. If anything, the USA earned the right to counsel against it's use.
Obviously you are as deluded as the Modern Kim dynasty to believe the leadership is loved.
What kind of a country use snipers on the DMZ on its own people?
What kind of a country refuses to allow it's citizens free travel out of the country?
The list of wonderful things the Kim's did for it's citizens are endless. Even China is starting to wash it's hands of the country it once considered needed as a barrier. It has been rethinking that position more and more as they move from socialism to a market based economy. On you best day, your ignorant.
Stevie, China would never get involved in a spat over N Korea. I'd be surprised if they don't tell them to shut up and play nice or no more food or electricity for you.
Sure stevie whatever you say. We didn't with the USSR either. But who was found chairless after a 50 year game of musical chairs. You simplistic thinking is cute......for a ten year old.....impressive for a troll.
China was also hardcore commies than also, not a glimmer of market sytems at all.MacArther was the crown jewel of a general and Eisenhower was busy building the American autobahn. Oh yes....and I read that gasoline was like 8 cents a gallon.
That was also the first war that politicians started playing generals.
yankeeboy
You really think this is NK's sudden outburst? Explain why China are moving ground troops and navy to the area...
You think the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan costed you? This is waaaay above your weight :)
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIn 1967, Israel once used military exercises of Arab armies near its borders to declare a pre-emptive war against its neighbors and steal large chunks of their territories, after which it ethnically cleansed them in order to make room for Jewish settlements. Considering the West widely applauded that policy back then, why can't they understand North Korea's position now? Why must the North understand that the US and the South choose to practice their military drills so close its borders?
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for Kim Jong-Un's nuclear threats - well, it's a bit rich for the US to be so outraged. What about Obama's threats against Iran, that every option against that country is on the table; what are we to make of it?
I'm sure Kim Jong Un is ready to sign a peace treaty now that UNASUR has spoken.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0I always thought it was funny that Augustus Gloop was put in charge of the North Korean chocolate factory.
Funny how they'll speak out about Korea yet sit on thier fat arses and let rgenweener harass and threaten the Falklands useless r s holes
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is real world politics dealing with a madman, self imposed closeted and isolated regime playing mine is bigger than yours. In the end he will lose his if Kim Jong No-one does not grow up. RG's, watch this closely, it could be you.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0I think Unasur needs to step back, close their mouths and let the adults deal with this. They want to play peacemakers, shut their crazy little sister up, Argentina and stop them from harassing the Falklander's.
2 - Anglotino: By contrast, everyone knows that, when Britain speaks, North Korea listens!
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:25 am - Link - Report abuse 03 - slattzzz: I don't where you got the impression that Unasur is quiet about the FI; we speak a lot about, having thrown all of our weight behind Argentina's demands. But please, the Anglo-Argentinian brawl is nowhere as important as saber-rattling between nuclear powers. Quit being a self-centered whiner.
Next time they have one of the mass rallies to show support (get food ration chits) we should send a nice little welcome package and take out the city along with the 2MM supporters in the square.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Easy Peasy
@1 Between 1966 and 1967 Israel’s borders saw repeated Arab terrorist attacks and Syrian military activity. On May 11, UN Secretary General U Thant leveled criticism at Syria for its sponsorship of Palestinian terrorism, denouncing those attacks as deplorable, insidious and menaces to peace. That's a bit different, isn't it? How about The Straits of Tiran was regarded by the Western Powers and Israel as an international waterway but its legal status was the subject of international controversy. The Arabs believed that they had the right to regulate passage of ships while Israel, with the support of other major world powers, countered that the Arab claims were legally not supportable. In 1967 Israel reiterated declarations made in 1957 that any closure of the Straits would be considered an act of war, or a justification for war. On May 22, Nasser declared the Straits closed to Israeli shipping. Nasser stated he was open to referring the closure to the International Court of Justice to determine its legality, but this option was rejected by Israel. Egyptian propaganda attacked Israel, and on May 27, Nasser stated Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel. The Arab people want to fight. So we can conclude that you are in favour of cross-border terrorism and deliberate acts of provocation?
Apr 01st, 2013 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Moreover, can you identify the formation of, and significant events in the history of the nation of Palestine? Useful things like a list of rulers perhaps?
What the hell the Unasur has to do with that conflicto....That is a big dogs fight, not little street's dogs....
Apr 01st, 2013 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Better they would be concerned about the Venezuelan election to be not manipulated by the regime. or the freedom in LA.....mainly where the Unasur creation promotors come from....(A, V, E, N & B).....
Or, at least, has the balls to says directly to the communist North Korea regime that it must stop the threaten over its neighbors and be more proactive to food the cpuntry´s people which is one of the poorest in the world while the army is tone of the biggest in the world.....
@8 I think it's more to do with looking like you're some kind of world leader. There are about 127 different south american despotic groupings that probably made a similar statement, but it wouldn't make sense to print them all.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Apr 01st, 2013 - 01:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I always thought it was funny that Augustus Gloop was put in charge of the North Korean chocolate factory. LOL.
@5
By contrast, everyone knows that, when Britain speaks, North Korea listens!
With a permanent seat and veto on the UN security council, probably yes is the answer.
9@ So...If I ask to our regional group to be concerned of our own problems (that are very much and big ones) instead dedícate its time to problems that are responsability of other boards make me an south american despotic ....well then I´m ....And, please, don´t think Unasur is a kind of world leader...because it doesn't at all....just a lot of little princes playing games...
Apr 01st, 2013 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are they going to huff & puff if North Korea starts a war? Words are easy!
Apr 01st, 2013 - 01:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 Read the comment again, Sergio. He isn't saying anything of the sort. As a matter of interest, what do you think about mercosur and unasur? I think they're despotic. What do you think?
Apr 01st, 2013 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@11 I would agree, it's just little princes playing games. But they like to be seen as big princes, which no one other than themselves would agree with.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, I think Kim the Younger will potentiate a S.K. armed retaliation.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0His dad did it once before when he bombarded a S.K. island a couple of years ago, and he was lucky that S.K. did not retaliate.
And he was also lucky when N.K. sunk a S.K. ship.
The South Korean leader has today given her military the right of unfettered response,
so the seeds are sown for a new Korean war with parties in the peninsular becoming 'bombed into the Stone Age' using the weaponry and the massed 'Advisors' of the superpower, the USA, and the rising power, China. Or, at least, South Korea risks the return to 'the Stone Age'; North Korea, as a nation, is probably already there.
But perhaps the USA has learned to now conduct its wars at arm's length using its vastly superior technology. The Koreas will probably be the new weapons testing ground for both the big beasts. God help the Korean common man.
The USA
@15 ROK folks are a proud bunch. I'm not sure they will be able to take this 'being a bigger man' much longer, but DPRK is desperate for food, oil and high-value brandy. The only way they can get this is through perpetual whinging and war-mongering.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Unasur
Apr 01st, 2013 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Should mind its own,
Nothing to do with them,
Their turn will come,
North Korea is the least of their problems.
nutty.lol
For once i have to agree with Forgetit86.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I simply do not agree that the USA of all nations, being the only one in history to use nuclear weapons on a civilian population has any right to tell any nation if they should be allowed nuclear weapons.
A simple fact is that the people of north Korea love there leader and anyone who has been there will attest to this.
I am a very pro USA British person, but when it comes to the use of nuclear weapons. i do not see how the USA can tell anyone anything.
A simple fact is that the people of north Korea love there leader and anyone who has been there will attest to this.
Apr 01st, 2013 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0PMSL
If I had a choice between living in a concentration camp and eating twigs, bark and grass to stave off death by malnutrition or loving my leader......
I'd bloody well love Kim Jong Un too.
#18 define right ? Under that premise any country that went to war should not be telling others not to go to war as well. I think if you asked any British relative of survivors of Japanese POW camps, victims of the Bataan Death March, the Chinese if using atomic weapons to hasten the surrender of the Japanese, I think they would beg to differ. Maybe you just don't have any relatives who fought the Japanese. Japan may have started the war, we have no compunction of finishing the way we did. They could have surrendered after the first bomb, but they refused. If anything, the USA earned the right to counsel against it's use.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously you are as deluded as the Modern Kim dynasty to believe the leadership is loved.
What kind of a country use snipers on the DMZ on its own people?
What kind of a country refuses to allow it's citizens free travel out of the country?
The list of wonderful things the Kim's did for it's citizens are endless. Even China is starting to wash it's hands of the country it once considered needed as a barrier. It has been rethinking that position more and more as they move from socialism to a market based economy. On you best day, your ignorant.
Poppy
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But theirs IS bigger than yours. USA don't have the balls to come up against China. We all know both Coreas are nothing but the playground.
Stevie, China would never get involved in a spat over N Korea. I'd be surprised if they don't tell them to shut up and play nice or no more food or electricity for you.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure stevie whatever you say. We didn't with the USSR either. But who was found chairless after a 50 year game of musical chairs. You simplistic thinking is cute......for a ten year old.....impressive for a troll.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#22
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When I was a little younger China certainly got involved in spat over Korea .... it was called The Korean War.
China was also hardcore commies than also, not a glimmer of market sytems at all.MacArther was the crown jewel of a general and Eisenhower was busy building the American autobahn. Oh yes....and I read that gasoline was like 8 cents a gallon.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That was also the first war that politicians started playing generals.
yankeeboy
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You really think this is NK's sudden outburst? Explain why China are moving ground troops and navy to the area...
You think the wars on Iraq and Afghanistan costed you? This is waaaay above your weight :)
As the Chihuahua preaches to Pit Bulls lololololololololololol What's it like little stevie to be on the outside looking in?
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's great, we'll watch and sell to the winner. Expensive. ;)
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