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Eleven million Argentines, 26.9% of the population live in poverty conditions

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An estimated 11 million Argentines or 26.9% out of a population of 40 million live in poverty according to the Social Observatory from the Argentine Catholic University, (UCA) based on a survey taken at the end of last year. However according to Argentina questioned stats’ office Indec, in the second half of 2012, poverty was down to 5.4% of the population equivalent to 2.2 million poor. Read full article

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  • MrFlagpole

    But the Falklands are your priority.

    It's disgusting.

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • stick up your junta

    For the life of me I cant understand why the Falklanders wont buy into the Argie dream.

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    Don't matter CFK wants the Falklands

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    I think Argentines need to look at the wonderful socialist dream that KFC has built and keep going with the re-industrialisation of Argentina, and away from the widespread poverty of old.

    It's like New Labour talking about an end to boom and bust, before all going to work for banks.

    Furkin nonsense.

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    Strange old thing eh Indec disagrees. The Catholic university won't be popular, well with TMBOA anyway, the soap on a rope might have to intervene

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Iron Man

    Look into my eyes, not around the eyes....

    And your under.

    The Malvinas are Argentine and you are a rich, handsome man who has not been brainwashed....

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    @ .. and you're back in the room

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Musky

    @6 Iron Man.
    Love it!

    The slums are a disgrace ...that will all magically disappear when they get the Malvinas... I don't think.

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • John Troll the 3rd

    Well Mercopress is now in overtime propaganda mode of their Argentine-hatred complex. I wonder why, I'll have to look into it.

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ElaineB

    @6 LOL!

    Just spent some time in Mendoza and not many people there are enamoured with the President. They are worried. They notice how hard it is to get things. For instance, many have reverted to very basic mobiles because it impossible to get parts for a blackberry or smart phone.

    Most of all people were concerned with inflation and the very real rise in crime. Most annoying was the inability to get hold of dollars and the government's policies making it almost impossible for some people to travel outside the country.

    People are pissed off but TTT is happy, which is the main thing.

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @9 because it's all true you just don't like the truth, the sorry thing is I THINK you know that

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Propaganda is reporting on a Catholic University Survey? Er ok.

    714/8.40/30= U$2.80 day. I am pretty sure that means you are desperately poor.

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @12 that don't matter TTT is happy in Canada. What a TWAT he is comes on here spouting shite whilst living the good life whilst his own people live on $2.80 a day, only Sussie is lower and she's lower than a dachhounds belly

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • redpoll

    Snotty ask INDEC They will put you straight I am sure

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    anyway TTT is happy lets move on to important issues did you see the footy tonight ibrahimovic was well off side

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yonkeeboy

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    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    Yeah thanks for that sussie now fook off you oxygen thief. The street awaits your massive arse. This is a forum for adults you have the iq of a cable tie night night don't forget your ky jelly

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yonkeeboy

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    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lovesupreme

    @9 touché, i do have to say i agree with you on this one. it does have the stench of propaganda.

    i'll be straight with you. it makes me sad to see all this bitterness, fear and hatred among neighbours. because whether we like it or not, that's what we are. and i'm not sure you have to “love thy neighbour”, but a bit of respect goes a long way, and would benefit us all in the long run.

    i'm sure people in the islands have motives to distrust argentina after what happened in 82, as i'm sure argentines have a right to be somewhat bitter that the islands were taken by force in 1833 by an empire based 13,000kms away. let bygone be bygones.

    oh, and don't believe the hype!

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    No Fraid not what hurts me is dickheads like you who post trying to THINK we won't see you posting as yankeeboy. You someone who professes to be ex USN lives in the US AND BLATENLY slags off the hand that feeds you. You are without doubt the lowest of the low a carbunkel on the face of humanity and worse a paid up troll of la campora. You know nothing of the pain servicemen past and present go through which makes you a COWARD. Now fook off and get your sorry fat arse street side and stop bothering adults. Why don't you arrange a meeting with the real Yankeeboy I bet he'd love to meet you and kick your massive arse. Mind you if he did there'd probably be a tidal wave

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yonkeeboy

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    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lovesupreme

    ...so as i was saying, a bit of respect goes a long way and would benefit us all in the long run.

    Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    @21 sussie is that your best retort proves my point really. Put up or shut up you complete numpty . You have the IQ of an empty bottle. Now the street and more drugs awaits you Enjoy you low life come back and join the real world when you have something constructive to say, till then stop depriving innocent people of oxygen

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lovesupreme

    and now that mercopress is quoting the catholic university on matters of state, they may want to pick up the vatican's views on malvinas. the pope does seem like such a thoughtful man...

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    Sussie ever thought of doing stand up comedy I'm sure you'd get a good audience because everyone on here laughs at you

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Yonkeeboy

    Comment removed by the editor.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • slattzzz

    Well sussie you never fail to impress me with you intelligent rantings. Now streetwise your wasting time and money your pimp won't be happy

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • malicious bloke

    $2.80 a day is tragic. At current exchange rates that's about £1.85 a day.

    A DAY!

    That's less than a third of what someone earning minimum wage in the UK earns in an HOUR.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Captain Poppy

    All those “comments removed by editor”. Nice to see sussie is still active.

    In the US the National minimum wage is like 7.80 an hour.....and most states have it higher around day. That is truly appalling that kirchnerites consider that a livable earning.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Boovis

    CFK said the real enemy of the state is poverty so maybe if she declares war on these folk she can actually have a war she has a chance of winning. Slum clearance, the age old south american tradition, isn't it beautiful?

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 04:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Wow, look what the islanders areb missing? A golden opportunity to exchange their family farmsteads and homes, for a cardboard box under a flyover, go figure?

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mastershakejb

    something just occurred to me:
    ARGENTINA OWES BRITAIN A GREAT DEAL OF THANKS FOR BEATING IT IN 1982, OTHERWISE THEY'D STILL BE UNDER A DICTATORSHIP

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • reality check

    Wonder what would have happened had they won? Success breeds success!
    Who would have have been next? Chile, Uruguay?

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • lsolde

    @19 lovesupreme,
    These lslands were not taken by force by an empire based 13,000kms away.
    The illegal trespassers from several thousand kms to the north were politely asked to leave by the owners.
    And they did without a shot being fired.
    Please get your history right.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Optimus_Princeps

    @32 Agreed.

    The issue that bothers me is that there are people that could barely manage to support themselves even before the mental patient turned economic growth into a crisis. Their wages were barely enough as it was, and they are being diminished by the day. That includes fruit vendors, and artisans.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Welsh Wizard

    It is strange this one. When it goes south obviously we'll get the blame (i.e. the International Community) but this is a crisis all of thier own making.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • axel arg

    It was so obvious that this article was going to be published here.
    However what is omited in these article is that uca's statistics and torcuato di tella's have always been higuer than the statistics of other institutions .
    On the other hand, the article omitedto mention also that poverty in 2003, when kirchnerism took office was 53%.
    I don't have enough academic knowledge in order to affirm wether uca says the truth, or wether it distorts the indexes, i just can say that there are statal and independent indexes which belong to different provinces, which have never been questioned.
    I remember in 2010 poverty was 22%, published by provincial institutions, now i'm looking the indexes of 2012.
    Anyway it's important to remind that suspitions that involve the indec's indexes reffer to inflation numbers only, not to all the rest of it's indexes.
    On the other hand, what is omited also is that the so called illegal dollar doesn't have anything to do with the popular economy, although it rases considerably it's quotation, it doesn't have any link with the domestic economy.
    The problem with that illegal market is that it's been distorted by the most powerful mediatic corporations which are against c. f. k's govt., telling people that if that illegal dollar rases it's quotation, it's going to ruin the economy. The big problem of many people is missinformation.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    Axel, Since I know you are very very stupid, let me ask you one question and let's see if you can make any connections to the Argentinian Economy.

    Say you have a property you want to sell, you think the property is worth U$100,000.

    Would you rather have $840,000 Pesos
    or $525,000 pesos
    in echage for that property

    now do you see why your economy is crashing?

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • ernest shackleton

    @ 32

    Actually Britain should thank Argentina - Thatcher's was low in the polls before the invasion, due to her tough economic reforms which needed at least 2 terms to show positive results. Without the Falklands victory she would probably have lost the 1984 election and Labour (i.e., the unions) would have mis-ruled the country again.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shed-time

    Did axel actually write a post that didn't include mentioning some abandoned secret proposal from 1970's whilst ignoring the fact they started a war in 1982? I think he actually did it.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 07:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    40. Well he forgot to mention his imaginary thesis too. I guess he is slipping.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • St.John

    “The figures from the UCA [Argentine Catholic University] Social Observatory are fivefold higher that those with which the administration of President Cristina Fernandez uses as reference”

    I assume that this is to make up for the much too low figures for inflación - when one goes up, another one comes down :)

    ”last year for Indec the poverty index was down (6.5% to 5.2% or 400.000 less), for UCA from 2011 to 2012, the index soared from 21.9% to 26.9%“

    No doubt inspired by what you learn in Business Academies: If sales are dropping, turn the whiteboard head down.

    As for the black market ”blue” dollar, in Buenos Aires 3 April 2013 it is 7.72 buy, 8.32 sell - http://dolarblue.net/

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    42. Hard to get an accurate count on the blue mkd since 1/2 of the town is under water and the other 1/2 without electricity.
    Give it a month and I bet we see a new floor at 9.

    Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Britworker

    My god, a quarter of the population live in total poverty, so their education will be poor and they are more susceptible to diversionary causes, propaganda and lies. I can't help wondering where she will live in exile when these stupid people realise what she has done to their country.

    Apr 04th, 2013 - 09:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • yankeeboy

    So Axel how about a response to post 38.
    Too embarrassed to reply?

    44. It is about the same % that only makes it through the 6th grade. I had a maid who was a grown women that could barely read or write!

    Apr 04th, 2013 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Anbar

    “”“So Axel how about a response to post 38.
    Too embarrassed to reply?”“”

    his shift ended.

    -----

    Well we all know how highly regarded and independent INDEC are, I really dont see why so few people believe their figures.

    Apr 06th, 2013 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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