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Malvinas invasion recalled by President Cristina Fernandez in Puerto Madryn
Argentine president Cristina Fernandez will lead on Tuesday the commemorations of the 31st anniversary of the Falklands/Malvinas war in the Patagonian city of Puerto Madryn. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesOnly an Argentine can glorify a war they started in breath, and then slam UK for supposedly militarizing the region in the next breath.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0In a new anniversary of the April 2, 1982.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0MALVINAS ARGENTINAS FOREVER!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58mu95WMMoA&noredirect=1
The Sudetenland is German! You fascists never change.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0God where do you begin with the sheer STUPIDITY that is going to be lapped up by many Argentineans? And only some of them with low intelligence.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0So what is being celebrated? Because if it was the soldiers that were shipped off unready and ill equipped to have their arses whupped, then I am not sure why the day of the invasion is celebrated. Perhaps the day they returned home would be better. A reminder to an quasi- or not so quasi-fascist Argentinean government to not repeat the mistake.
Where is the criticisms of the Junta?
Where are the speeches on how war and belligerence is not the answer?
Where are the apologies to the Islanders?
Where is the thanks to the UK for helping to return Argentina to its current version of democracy?
Where is the contrition?
Chubut province governor Martin Buzzi states “For us Patagonians the Malvinas cause is something very close and touching, since because of geographic reasons we lived through the conflict and the aftermath very closely”.
What a fricking idiot! Was this guy elected? And if so, who are the ferkwits that did it?
I'm sorry Buzzi you really lived through the conflict? You mean you had a foreign country invade your peaceful life? You were told a foreign language was the official language? You had someone deport citizens from their homes to a foreign country? You were told to drive on the other side of the road? You had the name of Chubut changed to CHEWBUTT?
Yeah, you really lived through hell!
Remind me when I finally visit Patagonia to go and shit in the local post offices so the citizens can relive the difficult times THEY had “through the conflict and the aftermath”.
3 GFace
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0I do not know where to stay “Sudetenland”, boludo!
For our part we continue preperando to return, in this case the Argentine Army:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MRqpFJCOh8
@5 Yeah that youtube video on the might of the Argie army would be a little more accurate if they replaced the strident military music with the theme from Forrest Gump.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0The best way to honour their life of those who fought from both side is to start a mature dialogue respecting the wishes of the islanders. To glorify an invassion and an occupation can never be the right thing.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder if the pope will be getting involved??
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0These Argies are truly revolting, they invade a peace loving island start a war that leaves nearly a 1000 dead then celebrate it. How fucking deluded can you get.
Oh and still bleat on about it all being the juntas fault, yeah right what a hypocritical bunch of retards. Is it any wonder the islanders ant anything at all to do with this bunch.
@5 watch and weep diego... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVHjKLIDAUY
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 07 Patagonico “trucho”:
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Respect” the “wishes” of the islanders (each time there are fewer islanders born in OURS islands) is to give up our sovereignty; Gil!
At 31 years after that fateful day, as Argentine come to say on his own behalf, that the decision to take the islands is the worst mistake you made my country history. Some military ambitions outdated with eternity, did not hesitate to play up to the last letter remain in power. It was an appalling decision that deserves the condemnation of any civilized society. But the mistakes of a few, not delegitimize the nobility of the cause, which is why I come on this day to pay tribute to the young conscripts with his inexperience, in the beginning of his youth clashed with the third power of that military time. Power that used to be empire, the cruelest worldwide who inject colonies which could place that did not care enslave millions of black Africans to spread it around the world, just because of profit. So he turned power, making money from human misery, was both the profits he made, which even today remains on the cusp of development, thanks to the exploitation that made their colonies around the globe. Even with all the experience of hundreds of years warring over all the seas, a handful of patriotic conscripts almost snatches the glory and imparting unexpected defeat. But no luck, the incompetence of the inept rulers of that time Argentina was an insurmountable obstacle to the national triumph. Today in the distance, I note that the British are not the pirates of old, and we are not the infallible before, we've all matured at the expense of stripping his forehead against the wall. I feel pleased that the English do not pretend to be more a colonial power. They really are looking cede sovereignty of the islands in an elegant way, without seeming defeat. Therefore, it subliminally, Argentina tells which way they want, they want that we dialogue with the Islanders and we engage strong ties with its inhabitants, and then justify their departure without nationalistic pride is hurt. That is the road we must travel to recover the islands. So be it!
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0Prof. Javier Vargas
@10 Jose: Just think, which is the point of the claim? To “ recover” some territory that was our... in 1833? Is this really more important than the feeling of people who has been there for generations?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought that la Kretina had disassociated herself from the acts of the Junta and now she celebrates/recalls the invasion - she must be quite mad!
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0“.. , and Puerto Madryn was “the place where back in 1982 our soldiers, our boys returned from combat ..”
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0But only under duress - at first BA refused to allow any Argentine port to be used for repatriation purposes saying that Montevideo was sufficient. It took international pressure to get Puerto Madryn opened up. If it hadn't the troops on the Falklands were in danger of dying from hypothermia.
I seem to recall one of CFK's many rants about the British being that we loved war and citing VE day (or was it D Day? Can't remember) and here she is celebrating the start of a war she claims was a terrible mistake which was the last act of a desperate Junta, and by the way all of Argentina disagreed with it and was not responsible (despite any photographic evidence you may have seen to the contrary).
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0By all means remember the sacrifice made by young men to help their leaders cling on to power, but spare us the crap that links it to your bogus claim to the islands.
Its very difficult not to get the impression that Argentina, as a whole, with very few exceptions, is not in the slightest bit sorry that they invaded the Falklands 31 years ago. Only sorry that the invasion failed. How can we possibly move on with this kind of circus every year.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0@2
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0I raise you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLzDC6bLPE
and someproper music to go with your vid @5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLzDC6bLPE
@11 Xavier
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is as noble a cause as Germany invading Poland.
Cfk chastises the UK for celebrating the end of the war and flying the falklands flag over Downing Street (wherever) and she brings out a new war stamp and now attends a jolly good knees up. What a total hypocrite.
Wouldn’t it make the statue more historically accurate if the soldier were to hold a white flag?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0@19 lol.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is a bizarre junta-supporting war-loving celebration of failure. I struggle to see its actual purpose other than to cement this lady as a total hypocrite.
The islanders should not be ignored
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina’s sabre-rattling will continue but from an empty scabbard
By Wayne Bernhardson
FOR THE HERALD
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/127652/the-islanders-should-not-be-ignored
@17 Stick it up your junta
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Great vid, best part is the Argies rioting on themselves in Buenos Aires 7min21seconds in
@11 Xavier : As an obviously intelligent person who lives in Argentina , please tell us all how gaining possession ( not a “recovering” , they never were Argentina's ) of the Islands will help the average Argentine ?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Three weeks ago , the first Pope from the Americas was elected , and he is Argentine .
Did inflation go down as a result ? Has the crime rate gone down ? Has unemployment gone down ? Has Argentina's image improved because of his election ? No.
Argentina gaining possession of these islands will simply spark further land disputes in the region , as all the petty rivalries between LatAm countries erupt to the surface , as well as label the country as a bully boy state .
Xavier is correct that Britain has no wish to hold sovereignty of the islands against the wishes of the islanders, and if the islanders wished to become Argentine, then Britain would support that move.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0Everything else that he has written is EXACTLY why 99.8% of the islanders wish to remain a British overseas territory, and will NEVER wish to be Argentine.
1) False history: This is the first key point. Argentina know full well the accurate history of the islands and MUST stop misrepresenting itand pushing that propoganda to its schoolchildren. The fact is that the “Argentine authorites” were only on the islands for 3 months, they murdered and raped, and were peacefully evicted by the British...no Argentine civilian population ever existed, nor was any ever evicted.
These FACTS must be the new truth presented to the Argentine population by the Argentine Government.
2) Argentina must then withdraw all its claims to the various Anussore, Meratwaddle and UN bodies, and present the new “truth” and apologise for wasting their time.
3) Argentina must recognise the Falkland Islanders as a people, as per UN resolutions.
4) Argentina must recognise that all mineral and fishing rights in the islands EEZ belong to the islanders in perpetuity
5) Argentina must support open access to logistics, hospitals and education for the islanders, and remove all attempts to blockade them economically.
Then and only then, might they, after a few decades see a gradual softening of the 99.8%. To get to the necessary 49:51%...who knows..but Xaviers approach is a million miles away.
5)
This article is wrong, surely these demonstrations in Argentina are showing their gratitude for the consequences of defeat, showing the folly of aggressive war and the planned genocide in the Falkland Islands, and thanking the Royal Navy, the Royal Fleet Auxiliary, the Army, the Royal Marines, the Merchant Navy and the RAF for their part in restoring democracy to Argentina and ridding them of death squads.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0The third thing every Argentine politician does in the morning, after checking the radio for the absence of military music and counting his or her money is to say a little 'thank you' to the Blessed Margaret for restoring democracy and giving them a chance to get their snouts in the trough.
Well it will be a well earned break for the Argentine Falklands vets. A day or so off from burning Union Jacks, protesting and picketing sea ports – harassing tourists as they disembark etc.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Instead they can celebrate a failed invasion and occupation of a foreign land. God bless Argentina.
Jose Malvinero and XavierV . If Argentineans were all brainwashed racist bigots like you, there would be no hope. 500km offshore there are some British Islands where a peaceful and prosperous people go about their lives quietly and harmoniously. It's an example that you and your countrymen should follow. How you can celebrate an ill judged humiliating defeat and pass judgement on the British, who in the last century have fought continuously evil fascist, racist and communist colonialists beat me. You need your heads examined.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nothing like honouring an illegal invasion that killed almost 1000 people to show how you arent glorifying war and encouraging the militarisation of the south atlantic.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0One rule for CFK: where she can do whatever she likes regardless of how hypocritical it is, another rule for everybody else.
She's a PR whore of the very worst kind...anything to try to score some points.
All we need now is the ThinkoDoD trolls and its a full house.
The poor deluded people of Argentina, do they have to listen to this old clap trap for ever? What the hell are they doing celebrating or commemorating the start of a war created by a hated dictatorship? They can remember when they took the islands for a couple of months in 1833 and for a couple of months in 1982 and then forget that they never owned the place at all, but, were vanquished invaders sent packing back to their very new country of their own, even newer than the Falkland Islands that existed under British rule before Argentina were even a Nation in its own right. Do they still think that one day they will be back? Ok in their dreams, it over, get over it, forget it and begin to build peace you stupid mad fools.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well, l can't add to that BritishLion.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina's problem is their national inferiority complex. They desperately want to BE British.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Psychiatrically the 1982 invasion was a schoolboy crush turning sceptic. A weird way of getting closer to the UK.
The easiest and quickest way for Argentina to be united with the Falklands/Malvinas would be to join the British Commonwealth, accept the Queen as their head of state and then they and the Falklands would all be united under the Crown.
Argentina has a lot to learn from the UK which I am sure we would be happy to teach them.
Although there have been countries that were not part of the British Empire who joined the Commonwealth, - the Cameroons and Mozambique, - these have been in Africa, so a new member from Latam would be a new departure.
Boris Johnson would make an excellent Viceroy and will be needing a job after his second stint as Mayor of London.
The Argentine flag my need a little alteration. One could either swap the Sun in the middle for a small Union Jack or else put it at top left navy style. Anyway that's just a detail for later.
Argentina Brittanica would have enhanced business opportunities in the southern hemisphere and be a magnet for Anglo-Indian businessmen to bring much needed know-how.
High time we were all friends!
The Islanders celebrate Liberation Day, the Argies celebrate Imperialist Aggression Day.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0celebrating an argentine-caused war and subsequent loss of said war, when you accused the UK of celebrating war is so nauseating that it makes me sick into my mouth.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if argentines know that their very words and actions can cause people to feel so vomitous with disgust?
I can only repeat what most of the posters have raised regarding this article. Argentina and its President constantly inform the World of an 'imperialist' Britain that 'militarises' the South Atlantic that is also bloody thirsty and loves wars. Argentina and its President also adds that Argentina is a peaceful country and disassociates itself with the Junta and the Junta's invasion of the Falkland Islands.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Today's national holiday in Argentina proves how hypocritical Argentina and its Government are.
So many excellent posts. None of them so far, apparently, from argies. But we do have the usual numpties.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Numpty 1 @2,5,10 You are welcome to that little village in Cordoba Province. However, you should take care as P-H is apparently coming to fish lakes and shoot penguins. Nobody denies your right to “preparando to return”. I have no doubt you spend much of your “life” getting “preparando to return”. Returning to the psychiatrist. Returning to the mental institution. Returning to the kindergarten. And, of course, returning to the ever-popular La Campora knitting nights. It's hard to imagine anyone with more nits than La Campora. Good luck with the Argentine Army. To counter this threat, we are contemplating troops. One of Girl Guides and one of Brownies. Finally, it's good to see that you are finally willing to respect the wishes of the Islanders. However, I didn't really follow your last point. I've been totally unable to find any reference in your pointless UN resolutions to the birth rate. So, as long as there is one male and one female Islander prepared to get together for the purpose of procreation, it doesn't seem to be very relevant!
Numpty 2 @11 It's good to see that you are of the opinion that it was one of the most stupid mistakes of all time. Although the photographic evidence is that it was supported by million of argies. If it was such a “mistake”, why do you celebrate it? And it wasn't a “handful” of conscripts. British ground forces totalled 10,000. But they took 11,313 prisoners! One funny thought. Malvinas Veterans Day. How many of them actually travelled to the Islands? For the rest, you are delusional. There is ONE group of people that can affect the future of the Falkland Islanders. The Falkland Islanders! The UK is NOT looking for an “elegant” way to cede sovereignty. And certainly not to the scum argies. Sovereignty will, in time, be ceded to the Islanders. But Britain will be there. Ready to kick argie arses!
Hi all.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0First time visitor to the site, so go easy! I can see in the other comments you guys don't pull your punches. :)
As someone who's new the history of the falklands / malvinas and the war in 1982, I'm puzzled by the antagonistic attitude the argentinian government has towards the islanders. If they want them to become part of argentina would it not be better to have some kind of outreach program that would persuade the islanders, in a peaceful and friendly way, of the benefits of joining argentina?
I've never met or heard of anyone whose responded positively to threats so I'm puzzled why anyone would think it would work here?
“For us Patagonians the Malvinas cause is something very close and touching, since because of geographic reasons we lived through the conflict and the aftermath very closely” said Governor Buzzi.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Should read:
“For us Patagonians the Falklands cause is something very close and touching, we were also a peaceful land that was terrorised by the fascist Argentine Republic, subjected to horrific war-crimes in the genocide of the desert campaign, and know only too well of the land-grabbing psychosis of Argentina in a genuine act of 19th century colonialism, not the make-believe ”malinas“ one””
why is the current argentine government commemorating the anniversary of the falklands conflict against a peaceful island initiated by an Argentine junta ordered by a murderous dictator ?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so is this an admission by the argentine government that they support the oppressive invasion of the falklands in 82 which lead to the death of many young men????
“For us Patagonians”, would that be the indigenous patagonians or the argentine invaders who commited genocide against the vulnerable indigenous tribes in its land grab campaign, some habits die hard, dont they argentina???
SELF DETERMINATION........Commemorate that!!!!
The RGs blame all their problems on the military junta refusing to accept that they supported the military during the war......it's a classic case of denial
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now here they are 31 years later celebrating the start of the war essentially giving moral support to the dictatorship for all the world to see......que ironia ehh!!!
Mark, 1982 was a big a deal breaker as the Germans invading Poland and Czechosolovakia, to be sure. AR has no chance to get the islands back. But keeping the Islands “on the agenda” gives them a diversion at home (lessons learned from the Junta) and also validation in international forums where they can pretend that it is a white against... Uh... white conflict rather than lust for overseas colonies and a fantasy that it will make all dandy.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ironically, if they could put the fact that the Islands were never really theirs and actually try to talk to the islanders rather than desperately run away from them they'd have a shot at being neighbors with a good relationship and trade and a share in whatever oil wealth may come. But they tore up the previous post 82 agreements and have chosen to dine on ashes and nostalgia for the Junta and the day they “voted by acclamination ” for as many years as the army could carry by cheering them on in the square and years latter validating their move to stay on power with a coin. (What's that saying about never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity?)
@19 stick up your junta
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Wouldn’t it make the statue more historically accurate if the soldier were to hold a white flag?' Well it does look like he is perched on the stern of a sinking ship...the Belgrano maybe.
@36 MarkB ' If they want them to become part of argentina would it not be better to have some kind of outreach program that would persuade the islanders, in a peaceful and friendly way, of the benefits of joining argentina?'
'the benefits of joining argentina'....hmmm I think that would be a pretty hard call......
What a country Argentina is, only this country could glorify being kicked out of a country that they invaded with their tails between legs and celebrate it as if it was a glories victory.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As one of the few who were there and had my world turned upside down because of that stupid and crass invasion that saw good men killed on both sides I have to say it would be best for everyone if Argentina just held a small service to remember all their fallen military personal without fanfare and with dignity a dignity that all fallen soldiers deserve. That dignity should also not be lost on the ones that came back alive but wounded for they too did their duty just like the ones who fell never to rise again.
Thirty one years have now passed and still there is no peace, and still the fanatics and lunatics that are in Government just like the ones that made that fateful decision to invade peaceful islands that had nothing to do with them are up to their old tricks of old.
Many countries evolve into something better over the years that they exist, not so Argentina, that country is somehow stuck in some kind of time warp making the same mistakes repeatedly. One would think after all this time they would have learned by now that their leaders are taking them down to the path of destruction as nothing changes for the better. They must see countries such as Brazil growing not only economically but also in world statue with a dignity that the Argentine people can only dream of.
It’s now time for Argentina to rid themselves of the crass and crazy people who have always led them down the path of destruction. Is there not one person in the whole of Argentina that can rid their country of them by peaceful means or by a revolution? I find it hard to believe there isn't.
So Argentine people your mission should you choose to accept is to rid Argentine of the people that have always led you down that destructive path and for you to take your place into days modern world.
@42 British Bulldog
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well said!!
@11 Prof Vargas
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“They really are looking cede sovereignty of the islands in an elegant way, without seeming defeat.”
“then justify their departure without nationalistic pride is hurt”
Why the Argentine obsession with “nationalistic pride” and saving face? If you want to understand the British then you definitely need to stop thinking like an Argentinian. In 1982, Argentina invaded the FI based on a fundamental misunderstanding of UK intentions. Reading your Professorial post suggests that in 2013 even educated Argentinians still don't understand the UK mindset.
@11/44... They ARE and have been ceding sovereignty -- to the Islanders as per UN charter values of self determination... No loss of face involved but rather a show of respect for the Islanders and their rights.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And the Armada Argentina, too!
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=Bk2Au4TvT00&NR=1
@40Gface
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@41Frank
Thanks for the responses guys, that provides a bit more context.
I'd be interested in hearing what any of the argentinian posters have to say if any of them are willing?
Only in Argentina do you celebrate being a loser. They are the saddest joke. I keep hearing from them what a stupid mistake it was to invade.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More like it was a stupid mistake that they lost and now have no military at all to try and do it again.
Yeah, lets have a celebration. Looooooooosers!
Also, developing some own weapons ....
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_hTCmrwOR8&feature=related
@45 In your opinion perhaps but not the UK Government's. You confuse delegation of authority with ceding sovereignty. Sovereignty can be given away but is never ceded gradually. Delegated authority can be taken back by the sovereign power as it was in the T&C Islands.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Each Territory has its own Constitution and its own Government and has its own local laws. As a matter of constitutional law the UK Parliament has unlimited power to legislate for the Territories. The constitutional relationship with the Territories means that the UK Government does not have direct responsibility for administering public services. However, under International Law the Territories are part of the UK, so they are represented on international institutions, such as the UN, by the UK Government.
Summary of: http://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/publications/corporate-reports/MoJ/2012/british-overseas-territories.pdf
@49 Just so you're aware, the Argentine Navy cannot even restock your Antarctic military bases with food, nor can it prevent boats from 'just sinking', and additionally doesn't have enough vessels to even stop chinese factory ships from plundering your fish stocks.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hardly very effective.
The war was a giant mistake... so if they'd won the war and kept hold of the islands, would they have returned the islands once the junta had fallen? Nope, didn't think so...
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@49
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Haha, just watched your you tube post. Was it meant to be comedy. Just what stage of completion are these mythical weapons, has the metal been cut yet? Lol. And just what method of deployment? Your thirteen 1960's Mirage jets? Sea Viper will have destroyed them as they are clearing take off.
Keep dreaming, it's good to have dreams:-)
@53 For those of us who may know about such things, that 'rocket' looks very early doors in its development (judging from the video).
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 47
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You won't here any intelligent RG views on this blog, they are all brainwashed children of the Campora being paid by CFK to troll English news sites!
@46 & 49 your navy currently has two yes TWO ships servicable due to lack of spares due to unpaid bills and no maintenance. Can you say when the last time one of your ships put to sea. Your submarines have been deemed unsafe and not fit to go to sea, your airforce is on it's last legs, and as for that missile is that supposed to be a cruise missile looks like a free fall laser guided bomb painted green and yellow to me. as ST said above you can't even stop Japans fisherman robbing you blind, two coastguard boats working to cover a distance of mucho many nautiucal miles, keep dreaming you delusional fool, Sea Viper awaits you.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Also with the memories ...
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9IphdlLHZU
@36 New to the history of the Falkland Islands? There is no such place as “malvinas”. It's a Spanish name for a make-believe place that a bunch of argie psychotics dream they have some right to. Try this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Falkland_Islands
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0There is more if you're interested. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Falkland_Islands
So, by dint of underhandedness, piracy, trespass, murder, lies, lies, lies, lies, “rewriting” of history, lies, invasion, occupation, defeat in war, lies, lies, educational brainwashing, lies, lies and lies, argies think they have a claim to the Falkland Islands. Close to Darwin is the greatest number of individual plots of temporarily “owned” argie land. It's called the Argentine War Cemetary.
Argies don't believe in “outreach”. Well, not for more than 10 years in pursuit of their real objectives. Argies have no concept of honesty, honour, truth or anything of that sort. But what would you expect from a non-indigenous implanted population of stupid thieves, rapists, murderers and genocidal xenophobes?
If you stay, and when you get to know them better, you will get to recognise their brain-dead, fanatic, irrelevant, psychotic fantasies. Amongst these are “Pirat-Hunter” who is in Canada. He likes to fantasise about a 100% argie-manufactured nuclear defence programme. Then there's “Think” who's a total lard/smart ass. Very weasely. You've seen “Jose Malvinero”. The “Armada Argentina” has some notable achievements. For instance, the entire fleet ran away in 1982. Since then, its flagship got seized in a Ghana port. Another more modern ship got stuck for unpaid bills. Then there was the “ship” that recently sank at its moorings. Meanwhile, the majority of its ships can't spend more than a day, per year, at sea and its submarines are limited to no more than 19 hours, per year, underwater. Meanwhile, many aircraft can't take off in case the wings fall off! And on the missile? The argies are “peaceful”.
Here's a question. Is it the view of the British Govt that the FI aren't a colony? (even though they clearly are)
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I recall seeing the surrender of the Argentine troops in 1982. As was said at the time “se retiraron con los rabos entre las piernas por culpa de sus oficiales” ¡UNA DERROTA TOTAL!
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 59, you are correct that no indigenous population existed on the islands to be exterminated or subjugated, unlike Patagonia, but from whence did Galtieri's forebears come? England is a colony of Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Danes etc. So what?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wonder if Iraq has a special day to celebrate when it invaded Kuwait?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No? Why not I wonder? Same thing as the argies are having today.
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Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Or Germany celebrating its invasion of Poland??
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@57 very good now remind us how they got on when they came across some REAL COMMANDOS
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@63 Gustbury
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Between 1850 and 1941, your country did not think so. Your schooling has conditioned you with its mindless malvinas mantra from around the end of that period on wards. I bet the indigenous argentine indians (if there any of the poor fellows left) would also say “you are the invaders.... F.Rats!!!” to you, and saying ”coming over from Spain, 6,500 miles from away and setting up your colonies and killing our people... at least the Brits only ruffled a few penguin feathers (do they have'm) when they settled on the Falklands”..... Gustbury look in the mirror, it's the face of the descendant of a coloniser!
@47/58, parsing Conch's post through a diplomacy filter :) You'll see the following
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- unapologetic and rather sad little-man syndrome sabre rattling mixed with “not fair!” to gain validation & whinging over the UK militarizing the south atlantic even though the AR defense ministered explicitly stated they'd invade if the Islanders were not defended. You've sort of see that already with the Sudetenland is German crap from our shrieking fascist, Marcos.
- selective citations of UN resolutions that AR openly violated.
- disturbing claims that the Islanders aren't a people (not even little-p people that big-P People can roll over) and therefore have no rights of determination - extra points if they cite UN resolutions that uniquely single out the FI & Gibralter that were voted DOWN.
- insistance that “it was the Junta” ignoring a) that the current government has validated the Junta's invasion and b) they were out in the street effectively voting them another “term” by cheering when it happened. Along those lines an absolute refusal to recognize the broader implication of what a successful invasion and holdings of the Islands would have meant for Argentines living under the Junta's jackboot.
- whataboutery of various forms from likening Saddam Hussein to Poland in WW2 (no really!), to the Chagos -- ignoring that there is a vibrant protest culture in the UK on such issues while if you question the AR claim in the FI in AR you are labeled a traitor not only by La Campora but mainstream AR culture as well
- claims that their neighbors and world are behind them while they deal with the Islanders both discretely and overtly.
- Of if you just want the Cliffs Notes versions, overall a smack-load of cognitive dissonance.
Oh yeah, you'll see Sussie and other trolls munge pro-Islander commenters'
names. Because a the end of the day they have no working arguments outside of their insulated bubble. Enjoy (then go visit Cute Overload afterwards like I do).
@63 Ultimately during war, your commandos turned out to be more than a bit sh!t. Ultimately.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Get over it.
Interesting to read some comments in La Nacion on this day of remembrance:
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'What do the Kelpers have to gain by being Argentinian?....use pesos with an inflation rate of 30/40%......have to beg for dollars if they wish to visit the UK......have a useless corrupt governor appointed by CFK.......I see they are slowly getting the message!!!
As a matter of fact, it is not the military act that is glorified, as many of you state, but it is only a Memorial Day, devoted to the memory of war victims and veterans. Is that bad?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 047 MarkB (#)
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:28 pm
“... I'd be interested in hearing what any of the argentinian posters have to say if any of them are willing?”
Mark, it is far too late for our “government” to change its strategy for “reclaiming” the Falkland Islands, during the 1990s Menem and his Chancellor, Di Tella made an attempt to win the hearts and minds of the Falkland Islanders making a series of very commendable agreements on fisheries management, hidrocarbon exploration, etc. But the Kirchners walked out on all those agreements and started the confrontational system of foriegn policy which is in place today.
The only thing that makes sense is that CFK and Timerman really DON'T WANT to “recuperate” the Islands, rather they want to keep thaem as a smoke screen to blow into our faces when the economy and internal political situation becomes unsustainable, and thus wish our poor benighted people to think of the “Malvinas Argentinas” instead of inflation, street crime, government corruption, etc!!!!!!!
Also, training to special forces .....
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC0YIMWnOOc&feature=rellist&playnext=1&list=PLAFF14FCE6E36D8BD
THE NECESARY DEBATES.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After 31 years of the war, it's still necesary to debate about the issues that involve that horrible fact.
It's often said by some mediocre journalists who publish their comments in mercopress on in some newspapers from arg. or from other countries, when they refer to the support that planty of our people gave to the invasion of 1982, which is actually a very partial truth.
While it is true that plaza de mayo was full of people when dictator galtieri anounced to the country that argentina had recovered the islands, it's also true that during the dictatorship there was not any freedom of press, all the chales and radios were under the controll of the junta, beside all the information that came from the islands was distorted on behalf of the junta, in fact, it was said all the time that we were wining, all these important isues are shamefully omited by those decadent journalists who often refer to this conflict.
Beside, the day that galtieri spoke before people in playa de mayo, he said that arg. had recovered the islands without any rancour, which was absolutly fase.
On the other hand, it's necesary to talk about the terrible abuses that many of our soldiers suffered during the war, in fact, some cases are being investigated by the justice.
Beside, our people should do a critic for their behavior after the war, which was really despisable, because a lot of our veterans were totally ignored, which provoked many suicides.
In reference to the gup between governor scioli and president cristina kirchner, some governors must understand that the progress of their provinces can't depend mostly on the federal financial support. It's very easy to claim for more federal support, when at the same time the provinces that they rule have very regressive tributary structures, like bs as.
Some governors should stop being so coward, and do what c. f. k. does since 2997, when she makes front the richest sectors of the society, in order to charge them more taxes.
Imagine if Germany celebrated the start of the first and second world wars. Imagine the world outrage. This should be a day of national shame. Have a day to remember the troops...but not the day you started the war and sent those poor guys to their deaths for political gain.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Another cracker from La Nacion:
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Argentines.....don't despair, our veterans are forgotten, our armed forces dismantled, our navy frigates sink by themselves, our air force doesn't exist, our cities are battlegrounds but we still have CFK to defend our sovereignty tooth & nail on Twitter'.........still learning, slowly!!!
THIS GOES OUT TO ALL THE ARGIES WHO THINK THEY CAN AVOID THE US COURTS AND AVOID DEFAULT!
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://blogs.reuters.com/globalinvesting/2013/04/02/a-plan-b-for-argentina/
“””47 MarkB (#)
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 02nd, 2013 - 01:28 pm
“... I'd be interested in hearing what any of the argentinian posters have to say if any of them are willing?”“”
Most of the Argentines posting on Mercopress live outside Argentina. many of them are creations of a very small group of Argentines (sock-puppet accounts) who, oddly enough, all also live outside of Argentina.
SOme even pretend to be British (such as DoverOVerDover) to make it appear as though their is support for “their opinions” - unfortunately they are not very good at being sock-puppets and keep forgetting who they are pretending to be resulting in them being caught out as sock-puppets very quickly and, rather amusingly, on many occasions.
DoverOverDover is the most prolific of the puppets - fwiw.
Many of the other “Argentines” simply repeat the rhetoric of the government verbatim and can offer absolutely nothing other than the party line - to the extent that most suppose it is little more than 1 or 2 people posting under many names strictly using party-line responses.
There are some legitimate Argentine posters... usually they post 1-line verbal assaults in Spanish then trot-off.
Any legitimate Argentine who posts anything not of the party line is shouted-down as a liar or fake by the “Malvos” (the paid-for party supporters that CFK loves to take on tour around the world and country).
So, chances of you getting a proper response from a legitimate Argentine freely expressing their OWN opinion is, sadly, negligible.
There are a couple though - you can easily spot them by the hordes of Malvos calling them “traitors” or “bloody rubbish English pirates” (which they appear to regard as an ultimate insult).
THIS GOES OUT TO ALL THE ARGIES WHO THINK THEY CAN AVOID THE US COURTS AND AVOID DEFAULT!
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://blogs.reuters.com/globalinvesting/2013/04/02/a-plan-b-for-argentina/
#74: There is no way the war for the Islands may be compared to WWI or WWII. Maybe it is unfortunate to remember the troops the very day of the military act, but I have not seen much criticism on the fact that this is a commemorative day in Argentina. In your case, you celebrate Liberation Day on June 14, and Remembrance Day on November 11 for several reasons, not all of them truly valid.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“”“While it is true that plaza de mayo was full of people when dictator galtieri anounced to the country that argentina had recovered the islands, it's also true that during the dictatorship there was not any freedom of press, all the chales and radios were under the controll of the junta, beside all the information that came from the islands was distorted on behalf of the junta, in fact, it was said all the time that we were wining, all these important isues are shamefully omited by those decadent journalists who often refer to this conflict.”“””
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So, what you have just said is: IF we had been told we were loosing the war we wouldnt have supported it as much as we did.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF2ayWcJfxo
@70/79, until they stop falsely claiming that it was an just war fought by an unjust government, yes. It is bad, and very rough on the survivors and families by whom the fallen conscripts (as opposed to officers and other Junta apparatchiks) are survived. When your government and prevailing culture realize that it wasn't just a strategic mistake but an immoral decision to force the Islanders under your (yes your) jackboot and to continue to wish for it.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apply the Cinderella test: If the US were to go to old cemeteries and plant flags of US Calvalrymen whose widows were left hanging and say BOY did them ghost dancers have it coming, it would be bad. If we had a redux of Ronald Reagan's PR disaster of the WW2 cemetery visit and some idiot said, well if they had just given them Poland (and Denmark and western Russia and Czechoslovakia and the Balkans and France and Belgium and the Netherlands and all the Jews they could kill and... ) then none of this would have happened, it would be bad. If the Japanese said, what are the Chinese and the Koreans and the rest whining about at their memorial ceremonies (even if it were held at Hiroshima), then it too would be bad.
And you notice, they don't say those things for darned good reason. Argentina on the other hand still wants their Eastern Prussia and Sudetenland back. They want the islands ethnically cleansed or under true nondevolving colonial rule. They want to jail their predecessors/competition and mint coins celebrating their failed Hail Marry pass with no thought as to how long the Argentines would have to pay the price for their “national” pride being restored. No shame. No perspective. No interest in empathizing with the people you still want to crush under whatever pair of jackboot, just-do-me heels, or sensible shoes you care to wear. And, mind you, no respect for the veterans, some of whom thought they were being deployed to Chile until they heard the illegally occupied Islanders speak English.
@72
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here is just one video of a proper armed force, you know one who's equipment is functioning, ships that float, soldiers that are better trained etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5JkBsATplI
Well, I watched the so called videos, which are basically a collection of stills with some poorly thought out graphics for the 'cruise missile' which isn't and doesn't. I went through the technical cock-ups when this was first presented in early 2012. I would bet a serious amount of money that it still has not reached the end of development.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Basically they are first generation and totally incapable of taking on the British forces without suffering extreme losses.
Why is it that these losers keep putting out this nonsense as if anybody is going to be impressed?
And the artist’s impression of a T45 suffering a hit from an argie fighter is just fanciful in the extreme and will never, ever happen. Don’t they realise just how ferociously capable these T45s are?
Keep up the bad work; at least I had a real laugh at the few numbers of ‘troops’, the idiot ‘Commandos’ doing CQB in what look like a pig sty and the out dated transport vehicles are just so ‘vintage’.
That lonely MBT (is it all you have) would collapse with a strike from a Typhoon.
It’s all just SO PITIFUL, even I feel embarrassed for the poor sods in uniform. Well, on thinking about it, no I don’t!
LOLs
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Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@Axel Arg (73)
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your media is still controlled by the Government and your Government tell its people it is winning the diplomatic war over annexing the Falklands...
So what has really changed?
Soy Niggers are Argentines??? You're being a being a bit hard on niggers there......
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm surprised that hasn't been removed yet lol.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Glory and honor those who died for their Homeland
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://pagina-catolica.blogspot.com.ar/2011/04/gloria-y-honor-los-caidos-por-la-patria.html#more
“”Glory and honor those who died for their Homeland“”
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Spain then...?
Or Italy?
Axel, Yaghan and this Jose make me sick to the pit of my stomach. When Jose is pretending his armed forces are anything above 'very sh!te' I am sick into my mouth; when Yaghan is questioning if is okay for germany to celebrate the invasion of poland I am vomitous... and when Axel lies to himself in the suggestion that all of Argentina didn't support the invasion of the Falklands, and that somehow it has nothing to do with Argentina even though KFC is celebrating it and handing out medals for the war still, I have to go retch into the toilet.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Do these people not know that they have absolutely no ethical nor moral backbone to even suggest that starting a war to ethnically cleanse someone's land just because you want it, is in some way 'right' and 'good'.
Moral to tale, don't ever talk to argentines.
Watching the disaster unfold in BsAs...and where is the army to help those poor people?....protecting cfk?? Not even an emergency number to call for help.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So now they are so desperate they are going to celebrate 31 years,
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And if this ups her support, will next year she celebrate 32 years then 33 years and so on,
There is a big difference between remembering, and celebrating,
Still,
If you have to celebrate how you lost,
Can you at least do it quietly, so you don’t embarrass your selves again lol..
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http://www.eluniverso.com/2013/04/02/1/1421/estrena-miniserie-sobre-guerra-malvinas.html
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0More lies and justifications. Why can't they admit they lost - forever!
It seems that every 30 years the argentines need a war to start and lose. Then they can spend 30 years claiming 'they didn't start it' whilst celebrating the loss, pretending they got the spoils of war, and making cartoons that look like their armed forces could actually do something.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It defies any kind of logic.
So can we look forward to another display of Argentine martial power on the 14th of june?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According Herald Falklands is all because UK's Eurozone problems!!!
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/127722/cfk-to-lead-malvinas-war-rally-in-puerto-madryn-
Tip for Botox - do some research until open mouth UK not in Zone
The film was interesting,
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So who were they fighting,????
Saw no enemy
It is important to talk to Malvinas, make public the?
[Yet the argie government refuses to talk to the Falklands, ]
Rather odd,
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They remember always had to return quietly, at night and in secret.
[ and who’s fault was this,]
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“said the director. ”Fighters” has thirteen half-hour episodes The Falklands War started on April 2, 1982 with the landing of Argentine troops in the archipelago, under British rule since 1833
We take it, they informed CFK that the islands were British since 1833,,lol
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@96 she says they send warships, I say “why's that then”
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Listen you botoxed old growler read back what you said and THINK about it, especially the part about poverty, then try and actually do something about it. Is she really that thick?
@96 LOL: “CFK: 'UK uses Malvinas to hide Europe’s disaster'”
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 07:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The word for today, boys and girls, is “Projection.” Can you say “projection?” Good!
“”Argentina’s leader has responded to the voting process considering it a “consortium of squatters” since the South American country considers the Islands were illegally occupied by the UK in 1833, expelling Argentine authorities from there.“”“
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Authorities?
thats a new one...
i thought it was originally ”totally innocent blessed-by-the-pope heroic catholic black disabled war veteran peace workers of the world (except the british) supported by all true south americans!” ...
or was that last week?
@99 I know amazing isn't it? We use one of our own overseas territories to hide what's going on in Europe, this woman is seriously deranged, surely someone has to enlighten her soon, she is making the whole country look stupid not just herself. The other crackpots like Tinman and Castro don't help, (I'm praying that Hague will summon her and rip her a new arse), if I was rg I'd be totally embarrassed, still I suppose the average hard working Argentine knows no different and just believe her complete bullshit.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”While they (UK) send warships, we will take science ships for (the development) of knowledge and techonology,” ... like the one they sank in the Antarctic that pyssed oil out all over the lovely environment. I'd love to see one of these argentine science ships.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did she buy an indulgence from the pope?
Won't be long before the Royal Navy has to bail out her scientists, they must be getting hungry by now
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@102 that will be the scientific ship they rent off Russia because thiers is knackered and has been for years. The ship has been out of service since 2007, when a fire broke out in the auxiliary generator compartment.
@100 For Authorities read a penal colony that killed the commander after raping his wife in front of his children, yeah some authorities. And now CFK continues the trend by raping her own country day in day out
Aren't there military folk in Antarctica all starving because no one can deliver them any food and so they've resorted to eating the tanks?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How scientific of them.
@104 yep. Why are they the only ones with military permenantly based in Queen Elizabeth land anyway?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the new navy CFK has just started a national appeal for any spare Lego to rebuild the Rg fleet. Apparently it is actually to build those new Science Ships she was referring to. Each one will have a new death ray projector (100% made in Argentina) and they will all be equipped with Keil Kraft cruise missile planes (100% built in Argentina) equipped with Smart warheads developed from cloning the brains of Hector Timerman and Alicia Castro.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The residents of BA Rosario and Mendoza are very worried by this news as they do not trust the guidance system because it will home in on anyone speaking with a British accent.
There has also been a national appeal for polystyrene and Argentinean engineers have been back to Italy to study the refloating of the Costa Concordia. The Cartoneros are being urged to increase the search for bubble wrap so that the sunken warship can be refloated.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9967720/Falklands-war-anniversary-row-a-smokescreen-for-Britains-domestic-woes.html
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0She really is getting desperate! There is no doubt in my mind that she suffers from some delusional illness - is she bipolar?
@106 LOL. You know it wouldn't surprise me if she did bid for the 3 42 destroyers up for sale, she is that fooked up. Haven't heard from 100% nuclear defence built 100% in rgenweener for a while maybe the Canadian authorities have caught up with him
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@105 Yes, why do they need that military facility with tanks and guns in antarctica? what exactly are they attacking that requires tanks? rabid penguins?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0106 CaptainSilver
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle, chuckle.
Keil Craft: what a blast from the past! That's up their with Frog and Mercury IC engines, but my favourite was Jetex: but watch your fingers getting them out before they cooled!
LOLs
@109 the tanks probably don't work anyway, poor fookers are likely living in them
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@107 i know pathetic isn't it, who seriously would use one of thier OWN overseas territories as an excuse to mask internal problems, especially one that goes from strength to strength week after week. Someone elses that YOU WANT maybe, sound familiar rg's
Focussing on the horrors of that referendum sure was a great way for Cameron to get people from ignoring his latest car-key-fruit-bowl barbecue with the Swinging-Basset Set.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0KFC only speaks the truth, I fear.
@107 - well they are doing a piss poor job of using them as a smokescreen then. I mean, the FI's were in the papers around the referendum, and briefly when she embarrassed the pope, but since then, nada, diddly squat. Where are the daily visits to the UN, the proclamations from any and every meeting ? Cameron was in parliament the other day, and didn't mention it! What was he thinking?!?!? He could have distracted 65 million people with that ready made smokescreen ?!?!?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And Crissy, as for only wanting dialogue ... it would appear that “successful lawyer” in you has reared its ugly head once again... Do you remember that full page ad in January demanding the Falklands back ? Do you ? Do all “successful lawyers” show their full hand before entering into dialogue? Nah, because that would be shit wouldn't it.
No shame, no reason, no humility, all embarrassment and megalomania. Great legacy.
@112 yep we all thought about the rg's rhetoric and bullying as we watched the budget, them cunning rg's deflecting us away from 1p off a pint, they have us sussed eh?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0'Falklands war anniversary: 'row a smokescreen for Britain's domestic woes'
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 09:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Cristina Kirchner has accused Britain of fuelling the Falkland Islands diplomatic row as a means of distracting attention from domestic economic woes...'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9967720/Falklands-war-anniversary-row-a-smokescreen-for-Britains-domestic-woes.html
'The Falklands have changed hugely since the invasion but one thing hasn't - Argentina's baseless claim'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9967720/Falklands-war-anniversary-row-a-smokescreen-for-Britains-domestic-woes.html
'That account does not cover the false truth - By Carlos Garcia'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9967720/Falklands-war-anniversary-row-a-smokescreen-for-Britains-domestic-woes.html
'Cristina Kirchner, the bully of Buenos Aires, should apologise for Argentina’s invasion of the Falklands'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/9967720/Falklands-war-anniversary-row-a-smokescreen-for-Britains-domestic-woes.html
@115 If she wishes to appear as a sensible politician who cares about her own country, and doesn’t want Argentina to look like a laughing stock on the world stage, she should be using words of contrition when she delivers her speech in Buenos Aires.
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0To late she and rgenweener are the laughing stock and have been for a while.
In the wake of the Falklands referendum, this should be a time for humility from Mrs. Kirchner, and not another pathetic rant that will only further lower the standing of her government in the eyes of the world.
To late she's made a twat of it again, in fact every time she opens her mouth rgenweener gets laughed at more by the rest of the world, I hope she gets another term as she is better than comic relief and whilst she's in power rgenweener will never be a major force in the world again.
@59 What's it to you?
Apr 02nd, 2013 - 10:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@70 Really? The actual day of the invasion? You think?
@72 Thanks, Jose. Quite an amusing video clip. If you can get in touch with them, it might be an idea to point out that it's unwise to have your back to the opposition and that all those guys can't really hide behind that bus!
@73 Starting from the end of your comment, are you telling us that CFK is actually in a time-warp. For the rest, I noticed how the entire crowd was sullen and obviously being forced to attend, dance around and wave banners and flags. A mediocre attempt at excusing your guilty compatriots. Also, have you tried considering the terrible abuses suffered by the Falkland Islanders? Citizens, including children, herded around at gunpoint? Locked in buildings under armed guard without food or water? And without any protection against artillery or bombing. Again including children. How about eventually returning to their homes to find them, including baths, beds and other furniture, filled with argie faeces?
@88 Yeah. The same ones who, a few years earlier, were busy killing and “disappearing” their own citizens.
@97 Except that, technically, the Islands had been under British rule since 1690!
@107 Oh, I do like it. Apparently, she now “thinks” that UN GA resolutions are “international law”.
@108 It hasn't posted much recently. Must be on the run!
@109 Tanks and guns in Antarctica? That's a breach of the Antarctic Treaty. Pictures, articles, data required. Then we can get the argies out of there as well!
we must be due a rant from ginger castro soon, I wonder what fooked up shite she will come out with, hope it's something really stupid and William Hague summons her for a reaming. Watch her crawl.
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Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0@119 oh there you are sussie. One day your tiny mind will work out the difference. I won't hold my breath though. How is your life in the US by the way ? That's irony by the way because I know your not to clever
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Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0The mighty Argentinian Air Force
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8560276061_16cf810508_b.jpg
The mighty Argentinian Destroyer
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8560276061_16cf810508_b.jpg
The mighty Argentinian Submarine
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8532/8560276061_16cf810508_b.jpg
something just occurred to me:
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0ARGENTINA OWES BRITAIN A GREAT DEAL OF THANKS FOR BEATING IT IN 1982, OTHERWISE THEY'D STILL BE UNDER A DICTATORSHIP
@123 mastershakejb,
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 07:08 am - Link - Report abuse 0l pointed that exact same thing to the malvinistas over a year ago.
One of them, Martin Fierro, who no longer posts(or uses that name)got very upset & of course, most abusive.
But its true. lf they had won the the Junta(who nobody supports!)could still have been in power & still offering scenic one-way flights over the sea.
They owe us their thanks. snigger, snigger.
@124 They're still celebrating the actions of the Junta, so they're hardly going to thank the British for getting rid of something that they dearly love because it caused the wars they like.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 08:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0They hate the British for getting rid of the Junta, that's the only explanation.
MALVINAS ARGENTINAS FOREVER!
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dk1jEsrjsx0
The problem with RGs is that they are all football hooligans, when you talk to an ´hincha´ of once mighty Boca Juniors, they will tell you week in week out that they will win the league …… win the Libertadores Cup ….. win the World Club championship even when they loose every week.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This is the same with CFK & her ´hinchas´ Camporistas, they will win back the Falklands/Malvinas next week …….
Referendum, F.I, 1…..Arg 0
Tinpotman in London (owngoal) F.I. 2…..Arg 0
CFK in Rome (another owngoal) F.I. 3…..Arg 0
Tinpotman in New York (penalty) F.I. 4…..Arg 0
Ahh but maybe next week …..we´re in injury time & they are still delusional!!!
M_OF_FI. SHED TIME. CONQUEROR.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0M_OF: This is evident that you have no idea about what you are saying, the government doesn't controll the media. While it is true that there are some chanels and newspapers which are pro c. f. k's govt., in fact, the press is important for absolutly allthe governments around the world, not just for c. f. k.'s, it is also true that the official advertising represents just the 10% of the whole advertisings.
Beside, the chanels and the newspapers that support c. f. k's govt. are nothing in comparison with the power of the media that is against her administration.
SHED: I have never omited that there were a lot of people celebrating in plaza de mayo, i just refered to the lack of freedom of press, and the terrible manipulation that junta did in that moment, due to all the media was under the controll of it.
Our people must do a critic for other reasons which are much more important than the fact of having celebrated in plaza de mayo, or for having supported the war. It's very easy to criticise the behavior of our people during that historic moment, without taking into account the state of the press in that moment.
CONQUEROR: As you can see, it's the first time in months that i answer a comment written by you.
You usually answer my comments, but i have decided not to continue wasting my time with people who just insult or make miserable comparisons, like you ofen do.
Anyway this time you were respectful. I agree on most you said in your comment, it's necesary to debate also about the abuses against the populators from the islands. All these issues are very long and i think its important to discuss about them.
I heard on the news that some soldiers are going to denounce the abuses against some of them by british soldiers.
On the other hand, i hope that justice considers like delit against humanity the abuses that occured in the islands by both sides during the war.
@128Axel
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ I agree on most you said in your comment, it's necesary to debate also about the abuses against the populators from the islands. All these issues are very long and i think its important to discuss about them.
I heard on the news that some soldiers are going to denounce the abuses against some of them by british soldiers.
On the other hand, i hope that justice considers like delit against humanity the abuses that occured in the islands by both sides during the war.”
Axel,
Let's be very clear - this was NOT A WAR.
There was an unannounced military INVASION of an unarmed civilian community.
NO STATE OF WAR WAS DECLARED, at any time.
The UK was not at 'war' with Argentina.
However, Argentina felt free to plan terrorist attacks against the Royal Navy, berthed at Gibraltar, until that was scotched by the Argentines being arrested as terrorists by the Spanish authorities.
Likewise, in the Falklands, it was 'STATE TERRORISM' against an unsuspecting, undefended victim.
You forced the civilian population at gunpoint, yes, WOMEN and CHILDREN, to do your bidding. Your rounded up a large portion of the population, evicted them from their homes, imprisoned them, stopped them from pursuing their livelihoods, deported several from their own islands, disrespectfully and cowardly ransacked, vandalised, and defiled their homes by defecating and urinating in them.
You were directed to leave by the UN and you refused.
The British removed the Terrorists forcibly, and returned the islands and the homes to the rightful inhabitants, at great loss of life to themselves and 3 Islanders.
None of this would have happened if you did not attack unarmed people.
...and you whine that some “soldiers” were treated badly??
What kind of people are you?
Axel - Argentina committed selfish, cowardly crimes.
You do not have any moral high ground.
I am personally disgusted by your actions.
I almost wish Argies had enough money to travel Britain, USA, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, so that they could see what a tremendous difference there is, and how much BETTER life is in those countries.....but truth is, I'd rather not have to deal with them in my country, so its good they don't have the money to travel first world countries.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I take it that Axel or someone replied and it was deleted for 'offensive content', perhaps ?
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#126
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 04:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A piece of breaking news for you ----YOU LOST DECISIVELY.
I thought you would like to know this piece of information.
The following is a reader's letter published in Clarín today 23/04/2013 in response the paper's report on the the speech of la Kretina yesterday in Puerto Madryn.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”QUE conste que soy argento y orgulloso de serlo pero argentina como pais no tienen ningun derecho legal ni historico ni territorial de reclamar las malvinas. Las malvinas fueron ocupadas por los ingleses 70 años antes de que argentina se independisara y se transformara en una nacion( con este dato ya deberia bastar para acabar con todo esto). Puedo entender que la humillacion sufrida por perder de forma grotesca contra una potencia militar sea doloroso, pero por dios les pido por favor que no insistan con una idea que implemento la dictadura. Hasta que a la dictadura se le ocurrio “pelear por las malvinas” nostros ni sabiamos que existian, quien es el idiota que quiere vivir en unas islas humedas, frias e inaccesibles, por que reclamamos algo que en realidad no queremos y que nunca fue nuestro. En todo caso los unicos con autentico derecho a reclamarlas son los antiguos originarios que las habitaron ( estan todos muertos obviamente). Asi que por favor dejen de insistir con algo que nos inculco la dictadura, no es verdad que son nuestras, nunca lo fueron y personalmente me importa un carajo quien se las quiera quedar. Otra cosa seria que los ingleses invadieran nuestro territorio.”
TROY TOMPEST.
Apr 05th, 2013 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I know perfectly what state terrorism is, because it is what argentina suffered in different oportunities not just in the last dictatorship.
I won't never justify any abuse, beyond wether it is committed by argentina, by the u. k., or by any other nation.
Our soldiers told in planty of oportunities about the abuses that they suffered by their bosses, when they were tied on the floor (estaqueados) and humbled, in fact, the denounces are being investigated by justice. It's important to open all the archives that refer to the war. Beside, some of the denounces of abuses involve british soldiers too.
@128 says a dickhead who lives in Canada, what a waste of space
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