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Falkland Islands’ referendum blasted by the Argentine embassy in Montevideo media
In full half page white and blue ads the Argentine embassy in Montevideo expressed on Tuesday how grateful it is to Uruguay for its support in the Malvinas Islands claim and for having been one of the first countries to reject the ‘legitimacy and publicity stunt’ of the ‘pseudo-referendum’ recently held in the Falklands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesLol, Talk about one hand does not know what the other hand is doing, Uruguay has already stated they will not enforce an economic embargo against the islands and probably are doing business with the islands. Its about time those that matter in Uruguay stood up and made things clear, but then again like most LatAm countries what they say and what they actually do are two different things...... LOL
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0This principle is distorted and trivialized by the UK in the Malvinas question and the UN does not recognize for the Malvinas case since the population is British and implanted, completely different to the classic cases of colonialism in which the pre-existent people is the victim of a colonial domination.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just like Argentina and Uruguay....NOT....laughable screaming hypocrites.
So a full quarter of the people in Argentina live in poverty, so the government in its wisdom spends the money on placing adds in papers in foreign countries about an issue that even if it were true could wait, instead of providing homes, hospitals, education, FOOD etc to those in poverty.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's nice to see they've got their priorities right.
And just what will they get for all that spending of money? Nothing. Uruguayans will still believe that Argentines are arrogant sh1ts, and they'll continue to increase their trade links to the Falklands, especially when they know that there is plenty of money to be made there.
a) The UN is quite clear about the principle of self-determination applying to everyone, something the argentines hate because they dislike self-determination with a passion.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0b) The referendum was for and by the people, in order to show what form of political relationship with the UK they wanted to have going forwards.
If the Scottish choose to remain British, would they then say 'Scottish choose to remain British, therefore the referendum is meaningless'? I think they are obsfuscating the importance of the question somewhat.
I think it is time that talks are held.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentinians are demanding talks and claiming that the UK is ignoring UN resolutions that demand talks take place, SO why cant the governments of The Falklands, The UK and Argentina meet, at the UN with BKM, so that the whole world will have an independant witness when The Falklands Goverenment, supported by The UK government, tell the Argentinian government, and the rest of the world, that they are happy being a SELF GOVERNING BOT with UK support on foreign policy and defence. END OF ARGUEMENT
@5 Because the argentines refuse to admit the existence of the Falkland islanders. Your 'common sense' is that the people on the islands should have some say over their future, which is called self determination. Argentina was built on territorial expansionism, death and ethnic cleansing, so they're not happy about someone getting self-determination on lands they have earmarked for their expansion. The fact they signed up to the UN charter in the first place makes a mockery of the UN charter.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0“The only people that talk to sh!t are the mentally unhinged”, Mordred O'Mally (2024)
My opinion.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0This kind of advertising is a great way of educating people, the FIG needs to be fighting fire with fire. Taking full page adverts out in south American newspapers, proving that no civilians were forcibly removed in 1833. Education in Latin America is key to countering the RG lies. No reasonable person would support Argentina's colonial cause knowing the truth facts.
What do others think?
LEP
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0“So a full quarter of the people in Argentina live in poverty”.
No.
Church says a full quarter lives in poverty, they also say Jesus walked on water, that gay people deserves to die, and that the the first woman was made out of a rib.
Don 't pick and choose now, take the whole package :)
@8 So you have to believe everything Richard Dawkins said, don't pick and choose now, take the whole package.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0How free thinking of you.
@8 - Stevie
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well given the choice of believing the Catholic Church or INDEC, the Catholic Church has been proven more trustworthy.
Oh, and the Catholic Church have never said that gay people should die, they don't agree with homosexuality or condone same sex marriages, that isn't the same thing as 'kill them all', is it? It's obviously what you believe though.
@5 commonsense,
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0Even if that happened & the UN fully monitored it, the RGs wouldn't accept it.
l'm sure that we'll still be manning the barricades until Argentina is destroyed or implodes.
No problem with that at all.
@5
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0As Shed time points out, the Argentines would refuse to attend any meeting with the Falkland Islanders & UK Government, just as they did at the empty chair meeting.
Even if the meeting was offered in the offices of Ban Ki-moon at the UN with international witnesses, the Argentines would still refuse to attend.
The Argentine Government has stated to all other nations that it believes the Falkland Islanders are 'implanted' & therefore they are biased in favour of Britain, when in truth the Islanders come from many nations around the world & have existed in the Islands long before Argentina became a nation.
Argentina will not acknowledge the Islanders, because to do so would also mean accepting that these Islanders have rights, one of these being the Right Of Self Determination. That right negates the Argentine claim completely, so they refuse to go anywhere near recognising the Islanders for fear that they will lose immediately - even though it means that they lose out on the oil exploration & fisheries conservation.
As @2 monkeymagic points out, it is hypocritical for any of the South American nations to suggest that the islanders are colonial. The article says:
“This principle is distorted and trivialized by the UK in the Malvinas question and the UN does not recognize for the Malvinas case since the population is British and implanted, completely different to the classic cases of colonialism in which the pre-existent people is the victim of a colonial domination.”
There were no natives in the Falklands, yet the Argentines massacred their indigenous peoples & colonised their lands. If any land should be 'decolonised' it should be Argentina. The native Amerindians want their land back.
I am not sure how Argentina holds its own referendums, but they are usually organised by the government for its own people. I have never heard of a referendum being held by one country in a different country.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0By Argentina's logic, an Argentine referendum must be held in Chile or organised by Chile in Argentina..... their logic is awful
@8 Sorry? Were YOU there? Then how do YOU know? Two hundred years ago, men couldn't fly. But they can now! By the straightforward principles of eugenics, you weed out unwanted characteristics from the gene pool. Homosexuality is pointless and unwanted. Obvious really. And, have you ever studied the science of “cloning”?
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Incidentally, I don't see any “point” in argieland existing. You might want to contemplate how the majority of British people view argieland. No-one here will miss you!
I have never once saw an foreign embassy take a propoganda advertisement out in a USA newspaper. It is just not done.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentinian arrogance is flabbergasting.
I guess they just don't see how crude they are.
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Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Richard Dawkins is a person, not a belief.
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Let me see where it is... Leviticus, where are thou...
Ah! There he is!
“Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.”
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Take that discussion with Anglolatino.
@7 I agree
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now we are getting biblical, wow brothers indeed, just like Cain and Abel
(Genesis 4 11-16)
Well stevie maybe you should look up Exodus 20 10 (King James version, where among other things we are commanded that “”thou shallt not steal .. thy nieghbours ass...”
16 Stevie (#)
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:34 pm
Leviticus is a book from the Torah which deals with Judaic law.
@16 Yes, Jesus, Peter, Paul, etc., are people and not a belief. Picking and choosing is just the same as you don't believe everything that Richard Dawkins says.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 In Rabbinic law it is quite clear that it says that gay people should die. However, as an evangelical athiest you're not allowed to say anything bad about jewish law, only non-catholic christians.
Forgetting the Old testament full of israeli stories and the 2000 years of Catholic idolatry and necromancy, Jesus clearly states in Mark 7 that “There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him”. So, he clearly says being gay is okay, and then spent most of his time talking about religion to women, which was unheard of at that time because it was so outlandish. So basically it's quite clear that Jesus says it's fine, if that's what you want to do.
Sorry humanists, but you're wrong, ignorant and full of hate.
@16 Ducking out again? Too cogent for you? Or are you just an uneducated organ of state propaganda.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@19 I like your proposition. So, according to you, swallowing radioactive cyanide can do you no harm? Have you contacted all the arms manufacturers and let them know they are wasting their time? After all, if a bullet went through me, I'd feel pretty “defiled”. Are you still taking your sophistry tablets?
8 Stevie
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0does the bible not teach that “All things serve the lord??”
and that
“The Lord is all forgiving??”
Trapped by your own argument...again!!!
Quoting lessions from the bible is a sign of a bankrupt intellect
Clown.
@20 Depends on your definition of defilement. I'm pretty sure Jesus was aware that a rusty sword poking someone in the gut might have caused some injury, which indicates he was talking about spiritual defilement. He's also talking about non-kosher food being okay.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm not sure what part you were reading where suddenly you turned it into some kind of statement on being invincible and impervious to small arms fire and poisons. Bizarre.
If the Uraguayan president is well enough, it would be nice if he were to say something like:
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We note the content of the advertisment placed by the Argentinian ambassador on behalf of his government.
We do not subscribe to political adverts being placed in the Uraguay media by foreign nations, especially where those nations use our media as a vehicle for 'war by another means'.”
Such a message would bring great international credit to the nation.
@ 13 M_of_FI
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I have never heard of a referendum being held by one country in a different country.”
Well, it actually happened in 1902, kind of.
At that time about half of what is today Argentine Patagonia was considered part of Chile.
In 1902 the Argentines held a referendum among the people living in Valle 16 de Octubre and they wanted to become Argentine citizens.
“More than 100 years since the referendum - When the villagers decided to be Argentine”
Every 30 April they celebrate the anniversary of the 1902 Referendum.
http://www.patagonia.com.ar/Esquel/41E_More+than+100+years+since+the+referendum.html - note the Argentine source
Isiah chapter 36 verse 12 International Standard Version (©2012)But the field commander asked, “Was it only to all of you and to your master that my master sent me to speak these things? Wasn't it also to the men sitting on the wall—who, like you, will have to eat their own excrement and drink their own urine?” Stick with CFK and the prophecy will come true!
Apr 04th, 2013 - 02:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0The fat lady is singing,
Apr 04th, 2013 - 06:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you lost
so soddy offy cowards.
So it seems that not everyone in Uruguay likes the mad woman from Argentina !!!
Apr 04th, 2013 - 06:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/127891/open-mic-catches-mujica-referring-to-cfk-as-that-old-lady
@27 lampy
Apr 04th, 2013 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0OMG!!
Will Medusa turn him to stone, now????
Yes I heard it lampy live on the radio. At least he didnt use his usual perjorative for those who dont agree with him -nabo = turnip though if he had been referring to our favourite troll THINK the term might have been more than apt
Apr 04th, 2013 - 10:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Giggle Giggle
Lads, if you wish to believe 1400 years old stories of walking on water, making women out of ribs, splitting seas and a god that is all-forgiving except to the African continent, be my guests. I doesn't surprise me, you also think that the Malvinas are British...
Apr 05th, 2013 - 12:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Church is going down, call it baptist, catholic, evangelic, orthodox... People just don't believe in children stories anymore. The unicorns do NOT exist, and nobody feels the need to prove it. Same with god.
What am I thinking? Your time, your waste. Pray along. En masse.
Well, whatever the Argentine Embassy did wasn't very effective. I live in Uruguay and only heard about it on Mercopress.
Apr 05th, 2013 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Stevie
Apr 05th, 2013 - 05:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are the only one talking about church doctrine and quoting from the Bible.
One does not have to believe one jot of the dogma.
The only statement being made is about how many poor the Church officials estimate there are in the population of Argentina.
Subjective it may be, but they are the ones working closest to the people.
Would official government figures be any closer to the truth??
Not likely, as we already know that CFK's INDEC produces false values for the annual inflation rate, to make the economic and financial situation look better to the public.
32The church have a history of lying, lying and trying to save their own faces with even more lies. They have worked together with every single junta and fascist regime that they have stumbled upon.
Apr 05th, 2013 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0They are servants of the system you defend, there to deflect peoples minds from reality. This is just another case.
@Stevie
Apr 07th, 2013 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where does your overwhelming, burning hatred of Christianity and Christians come from, and is there any need to rant and rave about it on this forum?
At the end of the day the falklands are British and will be for foreseeable future. Can we end it on this?
Apr 08th, 2013 - 03:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@33stevie
Apr 08th, 2013 - 03:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0“They are servants of the system you defend, there to deflect peoples minds from reality. This is just another case.”
The Roman Catholic Church of Argentina are “servants of the system you defend”??
Why would they lie about the poor in Argentina?
Are Catholics, who like their Pope have a belief the 'Malvinas' are Argentine, and who are patriotic (nationalistic) Argentinians, haters of Protestants, are they likely to be 'servants' of the British???
“Deflect” from what???
You really are talking crap here!!!
@30 Stevie,
Apr 08th, 2013 - 08:37 am - Link - Report abuse 01400 year old stories? Revised edition, maybe? Not 2000 year old, Stevie?
“The church have a history of lying, lying & trying to save their own faces with even more lies”
-“and there to deflect people's minds from reality”
--sounds just like malvinistas & Argentine policy towards the Falkland lslands.
Couldn't have put it better myself.
Thank you Stevie.
I think the UK government should organise a debate with Argentina, with the Falkland Islanders present. The debate should be broadcast on live TV so the world can see how selfish, ignorant and childish Argentina's arguments are.
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