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Falklands’ referendum at the heart of a controversy in Colombia
A diplomatic ‘gaffe’ referred to the Falklands/Malvinas Islands and the recent referendum seems to have been committed by the British embassy in Colombia, gaining great display in the Argentine media. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI keep noticing they get the vote percentage wrong on here and on other 'Spanish' speaking news articles, the vote was 99.8%.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse 0Both Argentina and the UK acts like children on that issue. Falklands in english, Malvinas in spanish. Simple as that.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is a controversy?
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wow, no wonder Argentia thinks it has support from other countries.
and this beats SELF-DETERMINATION how??
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0l don't much care what other people call OUR lslands.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0However malv............ what ever it is or where ever it is does not exist.
They are the Falkland lslands.
Isolde
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0As we don't care what the Brits calls those Argentinian islands. They are still Argentinian.
How are they Argentine Stevie? Does Argentina govern or administer the Islands? Do they? No. The Falkland Islanders do.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 07
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0You mean the Brits?
That's only temporary, mate...
I don't see what the big deal is. Everyone knows that local staff are employed in embassies for the small tasks such as posting to twitter and other not so important diplomatic tasks. The twits were more likely written by a Brazilian more used to calling the Falklands as Malvinas Islands, just like the majority of south Americans do.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anyone making a big deal out of this is clearly deluding themselves.
No I don't mean Brits at all. I live in the Falklands and we govern these Islands, so don't delude yourself otherwise.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0How is it temporary? We won't change our mind.
@8 Yes. Five or six hundred years from now the position may be different. By then it will probably be the independent Falkland Islands and its province of argieland. Where the Islanders go to pick up their labourers, cesspit cleaners, roadsweepers and the like. At the unimaginally high wage of 1 peso per month. Plus air to breathe. But, for a peso a month, they'll get a ration of water and grass. Sheep can live on water and grass. Argies have been “sheep” for years so they can do the same. And if they die, so what? There's plenty more and the ocean is deep!
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, and no-one here is your “mate”. Be they Falkland Islanders or Brits.
I sometimes refer to the Netherlands as Holland and have been known to refer to Germany as Deutschland. I call everyone that's working class from London, cockerneys.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh the controversy!
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Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The islanders just declared themselves as Brits. We knew and accept that.
As Brits, you'll never will be able to convince anyone in SA. Don't tell me you aren't trying. You are all over the place, even this site is to promote the Brit views in SA.
It's. not. helping.
13 Stevie (#)
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:19 pm
Stevie, as usual you are making the mistake of saying that the referendum was about the Islanders wishing to be British, it wasn't, it was about the Islanders wanting to maintain their political relationship with the UK!!!!!!
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Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sure Simon, a desire they share with you, cipayito.
15 Stevie (#)
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 03rd, 2013 - 12:53 pm
What makes you think that I am a small Hindu soldier??????
Stevie,
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prove that our lslands belong to Argentina.
You cannot because they donnot.
lf you can prove it, why don't you take it to the ICJ?
13 - Stevie
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read the referendum question - Do you wish to remain a British Overseas Territory. It had nothing to do with remaining British as a nationality. It was to do with our political arrangement with Britain, which allows the Falklands to govern itself and benefit from its own natural resources.
The Referendum was about to keep the existing political status as BOT.....
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as the right of the people´s self determination assure them.....and they spoke crystal clear....
Isolde
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Prove that the lslands belong to the UK.
You cannot because they do not.
lf you can prove it, why don't you take it to the ICJ?
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I've read it. It says “You want to remain British? Yes or no.”
Now I've read it again. It says “You want to remain British? Yes or no.”
20 Stevie (#)
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:19 pm
Stevie, why on Earth would the Falkland Islanders wish to take OUR claim to the ICJ? They have absolutely NO doubt as to the sovereignty of the Islands!!!!!
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Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the same reason Argentina would, as they don't have any doubts whatsoever either. You little Hindu soldier...
22 Stevie (#)
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 03rd, 2013 - 01:42 pm
So can you explain why we haven't taken our case to the ICJ?????
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Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0For the same reasons the Brits haven't.
Simon, you are another expat, aren't you?
Why on earth would you defend the Brit claim elsewise?
I know many Brits that don't care about those islands, as I know many Argentines that don't care either. But I know no Argentines that care AND defends the Brit claim, as little as I know any Brit that cares AND defends the Argentine claim.
24 Stevie (#)
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:02 pm
As a matter of a fact there are several of us more intelligent Argentines who comment on MercoPress, who support the Falkland Islanders against the kirchnerist/peronist/malvinist stupidity!!!!!!!
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Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Indeed, all of them Brits. There are many Brits in Argentina.
26 Stevie (#)
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 03rd, 2013 - 02:12 pm
As far as I know none of us are British, my ancestors were vasco/frances and mapuches!!!!!
Simon I dont think Stevie is a sepoy. Lets address him by his proper rank, probabaly subadar major in either the Quebracho or La Campora units? Or perhaps hes been demoted to lance (s)naik?
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Stevie, everything is temporary ... Including you.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@ 8 Stevie
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“That's only temporary, mate...”
Absolutely. So far it has only lasted more than 180 years - only temporary ... very much so from a geologist's point of view.
@22stevie
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“21
For the same reason Argentina would, as they don't have any doubts whatsoever either. You little Hindu soldier...”
Again, your racism is showing
@26
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you did any research you would find many nationalities in the FALKLANDS and 99.2% wanted to remain a BRITISH OVERSEAS TERRITORY. 3 ( yes only 3 wanted something different ) we do not know what they wanted as it is none of our business. Almost certainly they did not want to be part of Argentina. Tell me what Argentina can offer the FALKLANDERS that would be in their best interests?
I await your answer.
Stevie...
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?”
That was the referendum question. Feel free to admit that you are wrong.
@22 Stevie
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Indian Gurkhas sure enjoyed routing the Argies in the Falklands!!
@31 Elsewhere today we were told that what is written as:
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom?”
When read out loud sounds like:
“Do you wish the Falkland Islands never to become a part of the Republic of Argentina?”
@22stevie
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade_of_Gurkhas
BTW - note that they are officially Riglemen, not “Sepoys”!!
@35
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I knew that the Argentinians were deaf, just proved it. There are none so deaf as those that do not want to hear.
@35 -DOD
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I am sure if that was the referendum question it would be a 100% 'No' vote.
Stevie doesn't even live in South America!
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anglotino - he wasn't born there either, according to him.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He has good English skills, yet says he was a Tupamaro during the 70's and took great joy that his “orgsnisation”made Matrioli “squeal”.
He posts links to items in Danish.
He states that he supports CFK and her government.
Who does this sound like to you??
Argentinians only hear what they want to hear.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@39,40
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I'm betting its “Guzz” - he lives in Denmark, or nearby, and he was bitter about “Operation Condor”, just as “Stevie”is.
Stevie declares himself as a Communist and displays the same lack of compassion for the poor and other citizens, as Guzz did.
Stevie did utter an incongruous ” it's admirable for the Argentine gov't (Populist) to feed the people” - ignoring the responsibility to raise them out of that dependence, and dismissing the control it gives the gov't.
@20 Stevie,
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We do not have to prove anything, nor do we have to take any case to the ICJ.
We are in possession of OUR lslands & its your country wants them.
The onus is on you to prove that they are yours, if you can.
Your country has to take the “case” to the ICJ.
Get it right & do something about it, if you can. ha ha.
@40 Troy Tempest,
Did you also notice that Stevie repeats the quote of the person he is arguing with?
Also like someone else that we know.
What is the controversy? at the United Nations are called Malvinas / Falklands, on CNN in English and the BBC used to Malvinas / Falklands to refer to the islands.
Apr 03rd, 2013 - 10:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Mercopress and other media are shamelessly making a mountain out of a mole-hill. Yesterday's “Foro Referendo” on the Malvinas/Falklands, attended by representatives from the islands, was organized by the Universidad Externado de Colombia , not by the British Embassy in Colony.
Apr 04th, 2013 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands /Malvinas is not controversial at all.
Apr 04th, 2013 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is childish though is when Clarin quotes someone in an article talking in English and puts (sic) after 'The 'Falklands'
44 - Marcio
Apr 04th, 2013 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Incorrect, all of the British and the majority of the American media call the islands the Falkland Islands. The UN calls it the Falkland Islands (M*******s). The people who live on the islands and who sustain and encourage its economic, social, cultural and political development call it the Falkland Islands.
Only Argentines and its South American “friends” call the islands the M word first.
But, I do agree with you, there is no controversy, but I suspect for different reasons.
Referring to this article:
Apr 04th, 2013 - 06:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By god, embassy accidentally tweets Malvinas... better give it to Argentina then and hang our heads in shame... NOT !
It's a bit weak.
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Apr 05th, 2013 - 12:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0Troy, when did I declare myself a communist? Or was it you who branded me? Let me guess, for you, a communist is... someone that feeds on children, right?
So no, I'm no communist.
Isolde
You are a long term tourist, enjoy your stay.
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