The Bishop of Grantham has spoken out about the scale and cost of Margaret Thatcher's funeral. The Rt Rev Tim Ellis, from Baroness Thatcher's birthplace in Lincolnshire, has called the millions likely to be spent a mistake. Read full article
What is 10m to the UK, absolutely nothing. Are these the same bishops that support peoples right to benefits who don't plan to ever work and cost the UK over 200bn per year?
Lets get our priorities sorted. She was a brilliant figure and like her or hate her she contributed a great deal to the UK.
I fully support her funeral and the military honors.
Just heard the news, benefits in some London boroughs are to be capped at £500 a week! I am just about to go to work for a take home pay of £850 a month! Why fucking bother I ask myself and these cnuts have a pop at Thatcher!
@5 Reality
£500 for a family and £350 for an individual on benefits. 8000 affected in the first 'roll-out' zone, London I think. Did you hear about the immigrant family given a £2,000,000 home in London? 15,500,000 in pesos for any argentine listeners! £3,000,000 for a Ceremonial Funeral.... peanuts.
I'm not sure what this Reverend Ellis is worried about. With 2000 guests in attendance, flying into the capital, most with an entourage, most staying in London hotels, most not catching the tube, most eating in London... it'll make more money that the funeral cost.... mrs Thatcher would approve.
Of course all the scroungers object, we should be spending that money subsidising their layabout lifestyles. Instead we are spending it on a divisive but great woman's funeral. The 'usual suspects' will be out in force with their punk hairdos and dogs on strings. Just ignore them and remember the power cuts, secondary picketing and intimidation, strikes galore with no ballots, the socialist republic of Yorkshire and the old buffoons and closed shop in the City. She dealt them a death blow from which they never recovered. That's why they are dancing around the fountains and spending their benefits (your money) on Hey ho the Witch is Dead from iTunes.... Bollocks to the lot of them!
Man in frock denounces the cost the Iron Lady's funeral ......
He should approve , after all it's job creation .
1) Overtime for the Police
2) More train fares = more revenue
3) It will be warm , so ice cream sales will be up.
4) The Great Unwashed ( that's your fellow descamisados to Campora trolls ) will keep the pubs busy all day , after all that is their job
5) Lawyers will be kept busy on legal aid bailing them out of jail on thursday morning
The Bishop fails to see the irony that he belongs to an organisation that is the second largest land owner in the UK, I'd add that the cost of the funeral is only so high ebcause of the potential for protests and security incidents, if these people didn't waste their time protesting to a corpse who can't hear them, maybe we'd save a bit of cash. Why aren't they at their jobs anyway?
how is it that someone so great is so despised in her own country?
its a democracy with non-state-regulated press...you get to hear all sides, not just the one promulgated by the Government.
It only take a couple 100k to get a song to #1 nowadays and its a country of 60 million.
Stop being such a drama queen.
A lot of the people buying the song and demonstrating in the street were teenagers or under 25s: people with absolutely no experience whatsoever of the times before Thatcher. Ironically they were dancing in the street whilst drinking champagne... something their Miner Dad's would not doubt have spat upon as an extravagant waste... there is a lot of inherent irony in some of those demonstrating....
And lets not forget the modern culture of Riot! What riot, that sounds like fun!
Nowadays there are a crowd of twitter-facebook watchers just looking for an excuse to travel somewhere and cause trouble: the what or why of the reason behind is irrelevant: the chance to stir shit is the key.
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It only takes 1 person with no taste to upset a funeral, there's more than 1 person with bad-taste in the UK.
I dont regard as incident as likley, I regard it as inevitable.
#11 Britain has more than its fair share of scroungers taking advantage of our generous welfare and benefit system. The dinasoar trade unionists like you have in most SA countries were soundly handbagged by Mrs T and have indoctinated their children with hatred as a result. These people are free to protest and they will. The rest of us who take a more pragmatic view laugh at them. There are new welfare limits being imposed from today which mean many will have to work. They don't like that. Hence the protests...
Helber the Horrible : This bishop is a member of the Anglo Saxon Protestant establishment , you know the Church that broke away from Papery in the 16th Century .To an ultra Catholic like you , this means he is the very devil himself , even worse than Maggie .
Having said that.....
I don't think he stole anyone's babies , or gave torturers at work absolution or montos the last rites as they were invited to step out Fokker F70's without a parachute .
@1,9,10 It took a while to find anything substantive about the bish but it seems that he used to be a psychiatric nurse before entering the church. And his wife is a special educational needs co-ordinator. What does that say about him? But a google search on him and Thatcher gives about 182,000 results. That's not bad publicity!
@2 Have you chosen your name for a reason? Are you really a brit abroad? In which case, without wishing to be rude, what's it to you? You may have noticed that, though she sent them to war, the Forces like her. And yet her period in office only saw 3 notable military actions. The Iranian Embassy Siege, the Falklands War and the Gulf War. Military actions involving courageous decisions and all successful. What's wrong with military honours? And if there is an incident? Might not be such a good idea with so many armed troops around.
@4 Quite so. The other day there was an article on here written by Professor Terry Karl. She mentioned that, in her opinion, the UK and argieland were bound together by more than 1.5 billion dollars in trade. I pointed out then that, in 2011, trade between the UK and the USA alone was worth nearly 57 billion dollars. Against those figures, what is £10 million to us? Certain argies like to whitter about the UK's imminent economic collapse. Makes them feel better about their dire situation.
@11 Childish minds.
@12 Reminds me of the Thames Diamond Jubilee Pageant. A little group of demonstrators from the organisation Republic. As I recall, the police had to step in before the crowd got nasty with them!
Maybe the bish would care to comment on Church of England burial fees in general , which is after all , with other fees , how the whingeing parasite makes a living .
Furthermore I believe the UK still gives Argentina a substantial amount of aid .
The funeral costs should come from that budget .
I wish that I could have £10m to spend on a funeral...... Do you think that if I write to Dave he would give me some money so I can bury a family member?
After all, my dad is, in my eyes, far more deserving of a £10m funeral than The Grantham Gremlin who stole my milk when I was a kid and put all of the British miners out of work.
If Dave wanted to give her a good send off then why the hell are we all paying for it? As a tax payer I don't think that it's a good use of the tax I pay and, let's face it, Mrs Thatch ain't going to know or thank us for it now is she? She ain't going to get any deader.
So, if Dave and his cronies want to faun over her rotting corpse then go right right ahead, be my guest, just don't do it with my tax thank you oh so very much.
If there is something to profit from the state they love to make private to fellow coffers...
But if its is a funeral to pay for a horrible necon they make the poor people of Britain to pay it.
Why don’t leave the funeral of MT to free the market and make a IPO to see how many of the so called fake liberals will buy shares of their favourite necon idol?
I guess none will buy one including the idiot here.
Pay for it with the small change from the £74 Billion she saved this country by waving her handbag at the EU, it would have been a lot more but Labour have handed back a large chunk in exchange for nothing!
She is surely fully entitled to a funeral with military honours - she took her country to war following an attack and seisure of British people and their homeland. The last one to have ever had to do that.
The last straight military conflict that UK has fought in on her own,where there was a clear right and wrong and both sides wore a uniform.
@18,20,23 Just a simple question. If we make a hole, will you promise to jump into it? You are much less important or useful than we are. And, since argies never comply with their agreements, is it OK if we tie an anvil to your neck and give you a push? Don't worry. We'll tie another rope round your neck so that you don't drop too far.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesOf course Reverend, back down when you think someone will get upset or agitated.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 07:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0Appeasement is the word you are probably looking for..... and all the connotations it conjurs up.
i dont think it is right! She was a powerful figure but she does not warrant the military honours!
Apr 15th, 2013 - 07:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0I will wager that there will be an incident!
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Give unto god what is god and unto ceasar what is ceasars.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 08:18 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is 10m to the UK, absolutely nothing. Are these the same bishops that support peoples right to benefits who don't plan to ever work and cost the UK over 200bn per year?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lets get our priorities sorted. She was a brilliant figure and like her or hate her she contributed a great deal to the UK.
I fully support her funeral and the military honors.
Just heard the news, benefits in some London boroughs are to be capped at £500 a week! I am just about to go to work for a take home pay of £850 a month! Why fucking bother I ask myself and these cnuts have a pop at Thatcher!
Apr 15th, 2013 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0@5 Reality
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0£500 for a family and £350 for an individual on benefits. 8000 affected in the first 'roll-out' zone, London I think. Did you hear about the immigrant family given a £2,000,000 home in London? 15,500,000 in pesos for any argentine listeners! £3,000,000 for a Ceremonial Funeral.... peanuts.
I'm not sure what this Reverend Ellis is worried about. With 2000 guests in attendance, flying into the capital, most with an entourage, most staying in London hotels, most not catching the tube, most eating in London... it'll make more money that the funeral cost.... mrs Thatcher would approve.
@5
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0£26k a year for doing sitting on their fat asses, its a joke.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/unemployed-to-have-arses-removed-2012070933536
Of course all the scroungers object, we should be spending that money subsidising their layabout lifestyles. Instead we are spending it on a divisive but great woman's funeral. The 'usual suspects' will be out in force with their punk hairdos and dogs on strings. Just ignore them and remember the power cuts, secondary picketing and intimidation, strikes galore with no ballots, the socialist republic of Yorkshire and the old buffoons and closed shop in the City. She dealt them a death blow from which they never recovered. That's why they are dancing around the fountains and spending their benefits (your money) on Hey ho the Witch is Dead from iTunes.... Bollocks to the lot of them!
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Man in frock denounces the cost the Iron Lady's funeral ......
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0He should approve , after all it's job creation .
1) Overtime for the Police
2) More train fares = more revenue
3) It will be warm , so ice cream sales will be up.
4) The Great Unwashed ( that's your fellow descamisados to Campora trolls ) will keep the pubs busy all day , after all that is their job
5) Lawyers will be kept busy on legal aid bailing them out of jail on thursday morning
The Bishop fails to see the irony that he belongs to an organisation that is the second largest land owner in the UK, I'd add that the cost of the funeral is only so high ebcause of the potential for protests and security incidents, if these people didn't waste their time protesting to a corpse who can't hear them, maybe we'd save a bit of cash. Why aren't they at their jobs anyway?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0I heard that many Britons are quite keen on a song called Ding dong the witch is dead....
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0how is it that someone so great is so despised in her own country?
how is it that someone so great is so despised in her own country?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0its a democracy with non-state-regulated press...you get to hear all sides, not just the one promulgated by the Government.
It only take a couple 100k to get a song to #1 nowadays and its a country of 60 million.
Stop being such a drama queen.
A lot of the people buying the song and demonstrating in the street were teenagers or under 25s: people with absolutely no experience whatsoever of the times before Thatcher. Ironically they were dancing in the street whilst drinking champagne... something their Miner Dad's would not doubt have spat upon as an extravagant waste... there is a lot of inherent irony in some of those demonstrating....
And lets not forget the modern culture of Riot! What riot, that sounds like fun!
Nowadays there are a crowd of twitter-facebook watchers just looking for an excuse to travel somewhere and cause trouble: the what or why of the reason behind is irrelevant: the chance to stir shit is the key.
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It only takes 1 person with no taste to upset a funeral, there's more than 1 person with bad-taste in the UK.
I dont regard as incident as likley, I regard it as inevitable.
#11 Britain has more than its fair share of scroungers taking advantage of our generous welfare and benefit system. The dinasoar trade unionists like you have in most SA countries were soundly handbagged by Mrs T and have indoctinated their children with hatred as a result. These people are free to protest and they will. The rest of us who take a more pragmatic view laugh at them. There are new welfare limits being imposed from today which mean many will have to work. They don't like that. Hence the protests...
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well said. Thatcher never was that popular in Grantham, funnily enough...
Apr 15th, 2013 - 11:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0Helber the Horrible : This bishop is a member of the Anglo Saxon Protestant establishment , you know the Church that broke away from Papery in the 16th Century .To an ultra Catholic like you , this means he is the very devil himself , even worse than Maggie .
Apr 15th, 2013 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Having said that.....
I don't think he stole anyone's babies , or gave torturers at work absolution or montos the last rites as they were invited to step out Fokker F70's without a parachute .
@1,9,10 It took a while to find anything substantive about the bish but it seems that he used to be a psychiatric nurse before entering the church. And his wife is a special educational needs co-ordinator. What does that say about him? But a google search on him and Thatcher gives about 182,000 results. That's not bad publicity!
Apr 15th, 2013 - 12:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@2 Have you chosen your name for a reason? Are you really a brit abroad? In which case, without wishing to be rude, what's it to you? You may have noticed that, though she sent them to war, the Forces like her. And yet her period in office only saw 3 notable military actions. The Iranian Embassy Siege, the Falklands War and the Gulf War. Military actions involving courageous decisions and all successful. What's wrong with military honours? And if there is an incident? Might not be such a good idea with so many armed troops around.
@4 Quite so. The other day there was an article on here written by Professor Terry Karl. She mentioned that, in her opinion, the UK and argieland were bound together by more than 1.5 billion dollars in trade. I pointed out then that, in 2011, trade between the UK and the USA alone was worth nearly 57 billion dollars. Against those figures, what is £10 million to us? Certain argies like to whitter about the UK's imminent economic collapse. Makes them feel better about their dire situation.
@11 Childish minds.
@12 Reminds me of the Thames Diamond Jubilee Pageant. A little group of demonstrators from the organisation Republic. As I recall, the police had to step in before the crowd got nasty with them!
Maybe the bish would care to comment on Church of England burial fees in general , which is after all , with other fees , how the whingeing parasite makes a living .
Apr 15th, 2013 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Furthermore I believe the UK still gives Argentina a substantial amount of aid .
The funeral costs should come from that budget .
I told you guys just make a hole that would be enough.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I wish that I could have £10m to spend on a funeral...... Do you think that if I write to Dave he would give me some money so I can bury a family member?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0After all, my dad is, in my eyes, far more deserving of a £10m funeral than The Grantham Gremlin who stole my milk when I was a kid and put all of the British miners out of work.
If Dave wanted to give her a good send off then why the hell are we all paying for it? As a tax payer I don't think that it's a good use of the tax I pay and, let's face it, Mrs Thatch ain't going to know or thank us for it now is she? She ain't going to get any deader.
So, if Dave and his cronies want to faun over her rotting corpse then go right right ahead, be my guest, just don't do it with my tax thank you oh so very much.
I really love conservative necons thinking.
Apr 16th, 2013 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0If there is something to profit from the state they love to make private to fellow coffers...
But if its is a funeral to pay for a horrible necon they make the poor people of Britain to pay it.
Why don’t leave the funeral of MT to free the market and make a IPO to see how many of the so called fake liberals will buy shares of their favourite necon idol?
I guess none will buy one including the idiot here.
Such a world of hypocrites...
Just make a hole and drop her in...
Pay for it with the small change from the £74 Billion she saved this country by waving her handbag at the EU, it would have been a lot more but Labour have handed back a large chunk in exchange for nothing!
Apr 16th, 2013 - 10:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0She is surely fully entitled to a funeral with military honours - she took her country to war following an attack and seisure of British people and their homeland. The last one to have ever had to do that.
Apr 16th, 2013 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The last straight military conflict that UK has fought in on her own,where there was a clear right and wrong and both sides wore a uniform.
Are you going to make the hole or not?, It is just getting boring you know...
Apr 16th, 2013 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agreed, you are getting boring.
Apr 16th, 2013 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Try harder; it's just not getting the traction you hoped for.
@18,20,23 Just a simple question. If we make a hole, will you promise to jump into it? You are much less important or useful than we are. And, since argies never comply with their agreements, is it OK if we tie an anvil to your neck and give you a push? Don't worry. We'll tie another rope round your neck so that you don't drop too far.
Apr 16th, 2013 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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