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Mujica envoy to Buenos Aires to try and re-establish ‘normal contacts’ with Cristina Fernandez
Uruguay’s Deputy Foreign minister Roberto Conde is scheduled to travel to Buenos Aires this week as part of President Jose Mujica’s administration efforts to rebuild bilateral relations with Argentina following his ‘coarse, jail-slang’ descriptions of president Cristina Fernandez and her late husband Nestor Kirchner, which were refuted as ‘unacceptable and denigrating”. Read full article
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Apr 15th, 2013 - 03:30 am - Link - Report abuse 01
Apr 15th, 2013 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0Is not what you do with the English all the time?
@2 Marcos Alejandro
Apr 15th, 2013 - 04:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Is not what you do with the English all the time?”
Oh, Marcos, Is not what you La Campora do with the Kirchners all the time?
Great come back Marcos, jeez you so put me in my place!
Apr 15th, 2013 - 04:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0PMSL
PYS? Not only you need lip gloss but also an adult diaper.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 04:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Her feelings must have been hurt very badly indeed if the leader of a neighbouring country has to take time out of running said country (during the ongoing global financial crisis) to travel to Argentina to say sorry in person. I love the “a letter would help”. It's like they're all at Casa Rosada and she's refusing to come downstairs.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 05:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0What is he going to apologise for? He was right wasn't he?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 06:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0She is an old hag and he was bosseyed, Do they only apologise when they tell the truth, Ah think I understand now, all has become clear. Here was me thinking you only apologised when you lie.
Oh!
Apr 15th, 2013 - 07:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0Poor Mojica was sent to the Freezer by Cris. Is that cold?
A little bit of crying like have done former president of Uruguay George Big Mouth Batlle maybe helps.
Worked with Eduardo Duende or Duhalde i don’t remember now.
Well the argie version of Joe Pesci in “Goodfellas” ha ha
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@4anglotino
Apr 15th, 2013 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0Anglotino
It's like they are utterly compelled to remark SOMETHING, anything - they cannot leave the page without stating something contrary!
Marcos must have known his infantile statement would make him look like doofus, but I suppose he MUST follow the bidding of his group leader.
I wonder if they have a big chart in the office where they pin onto it, cardboard donkey figures for every 'comment goal' they reach during the day?
Troll teams, “Team Gollum”, “The Sussie's”, “The Calibans”, “The Thinks” etc., all compete to deflect, divert, and discredit the UK/ US / FI posters.
When the first one reaches a significant number, a klaxon horn and flashing lights go off, to call attention to the winners - Malbec and sausages for all!!!
It's just so childish, sending a deputy foreign minister to test the waters to see how angry she is. It's very clear that their friendship was a complete sham.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0What they both need now is a mutual focus they can both rally behind, a regional cause, a global cause.
Oh wait, the Falklands haven't been mentioned for a few weeks, maybe she could say 'the Falklands are ours' and maybe he could support her and say 'yes they are yours Cristina' and maybe they will all be friends again.
South American politics, more predictable than night following day.
@9 Troy
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Boy we're having a larf today.
But you missed out in the most relevant D with your “ deflect, divert, and discredit”
Defecate!
I have no idea what Marcos was talking about though with “Is not what you do with the English all the time?”
It's such a shame. According to his write-up, “Pepe” joined the Tupamaros in the early 60s. He participated in the 1969 brief takeover of Pando. (From the back?) ”Mujica was captured by the authorities on four occasions, and he was among those political prisoners who escaped Punta Carretas Prison in 1971. He was eventually re-apprehended in 1972, and was shot by the police six times. (Not very good shots, were they?) After the military coup in 1973, he was transferred to a military prison where he served 14 years.“ Wouldn't you have thought that such experiences would have created a little intestinal fortitude? Or did they knock all the stuffing out of him? Does a country really need a ”leader“ whose chief attribute appears to be belly-grovelling to the local harpy hag? Does he have his own personal tunnel under the River Plate so that he can make the proper approach by crawling on his hands and knees? I do feel a little sorry for Uruguayans. Government ”decisions“ must be constantly delayed by the necessity to get clearance from the Wicked Witch of the South. And just look, seems argieland is still dragging its feet, to its own benefit, over dredging the channels that give access to Uruguay's ports. So, weak and willing to see ”his“ country damaged. According to the record, the ”Martin Garcia canal dispute“ has been going on for over 10 years. And yet, according to the relevant treaty, any dispute that has not been settled in 180 days can be referred to the ICJ. There is a possible connection to the pulp mills dispute but that ended in 2010. What has Mujica been ”doing” for 3 years? Faffing!
Apr 15th, 2013 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0Just you wait and see, the united front keeps rolling on =)
Apr 15th, 2013 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Out of interest, I wonder what the recent result in Vevezuela says about the shift in sentiment with regards the “Bolivarian Revolution”. The margin of victory was very narrow, especially when you take into account the circumstances. That there should be such a swing towards the centre is interesting and will we see something similar happening in Argentina in October?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse 014
Apr 15th, 2013 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0The very fact that the right wing is talking about centre politics is the best indication of that “political swing” you mention...
#14 I think the “circumstances” were not at all ideal for Bolivarianism and Maduro, and the main point is they still won. I predict at the next presidential election, once he has established himself more properly, Maduro will win with a much bigger majority. I don't know if it points to regional trend, though of course a move to the right by Venezuela would have devastating regional and international consequences. Hopefully it won't have any parallel in Argentina in October or in 2015 - excpt perhaps the parallel that the left still wins!
Apr 15th, 2013 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@15 meaning? Sory, not quite getting you.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@16 Hi BK. I think that the circumstances were ideal for him. Maduro didn't need to be himself, he didn't need to have policies he just needed to rely on the emotional aspect of the vote. I feel that if he had needed to stand on his own two feet without Hugo to back him up then he probably would not have won. This is a very large swing to happen in only six months especially when the previous president has not even been in the ground 1 month. We will see a shift in policy and will Maduro be able to beat down the other contenders in the party...?
@14,15,16
Apr 15th, 2013 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is not about moving to the “right” it is about sensible economic management. I don’t know why you still call it “right” when in most developed countries it is practiced and accepted across the political spectrum (except on the loony fringes). In Chile Bachelet uses the same economic rule book as Piñera, in the UK Cameron the same as Blaire – the differences are minor.
Back on topic:
Why the need for Mujica to apologise if what he said was complementary?
18
Apr 15th, 2013 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Neo-liberalism “sensible economic management”???
I totally disagree, there is nothing sensible in constant and continuous growth. Doesn't matter how you dress it up.
Our natural resources aren't endless.
Wages can't rise continuously, as little as prices can.
Your economic model is proved to be flawed, just ask the Europeans.
The fact that EVERY developed country has had to pay the expenses of your economic model with loans, be it from their own pensionists or any finance center available, does not help your argument either...
@16 Why don't you bask in the “glory” of the revolution you support from such a conveniently long distance?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can come down and spend three months in Venezuela and and another three months Argentina “helping” your comrades in the poorest neighborhoods. Assuming that you don't get stabbed for your shoes and cell phone, or just having a British accent.
Though, like most K's I assume you are also a lazy, backstabbing, contemptible coward that hardly even communicates with people in their own community.
Both governments should do what's best for their people. personal pride should not enter in to it.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 019 Stevie (#)
Apr 15th, 2013 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Apr 15th, 2013 - 12:22 pm
I understand that Brasil's economic system is considered “left wing”, and as Mr. Capriles has stated on innumerable occasions that his “model” is Dilma's Brasil you are wrong to call Capriles' economics “neo liberal”!!!!!!!!!
@19 Stevie
Apr 15th, 2013 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Where did I say “Neo-liberal”??
Other than that I largely agree with you - the European model of massive social spending does not work.
@20
100% agree.
@18 ¨It is not about moving to the “right” it is about sensible economic management. ¨
Apr 15th, 2013 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well, in Argentina and other countries, sensible economic management is identified with neo-liberalism, which is the name given to the policies applied in Argentina during the military dictatorship of the seventies and the Menem government of the nineties. In Argentina, the policies applied in Chile are seen as neo-liberal, and anyone criticising Kirchner´s economic policy is accused of being a neo-liberal.
In Argentina neo-liberalism is seen as an economic policy imposed by first-world countries to destroy third-world countries, not just by the elite, but by the people as well. This is why Argentina will never accept free-trade, because free trade is neo-liberalism, and why the people still elect Peronists.
What is 'normal contacts' with Cristina Fenandez?
Apr 15th, 2013 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why the dark glasses..
Apr 15th, 2013 - 06:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0briton
Apr 15th, 2013 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0That....... could have been la Tronca...
Why do we need “normal contacts” with CFK? More lies, corruption, accusations, blocked bridges, lack of transparency in commercial and environmental matters? We must learn to do without Argentina.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“In Argentina neo-liberalism is seen as an economic policy imposed by first-world countries to destroy third-world countries, not just by the elite, but by the people as well. This is why Argentina will never accept free-trade, because free trade is neo-liberalism, and why the people still elect Peronists.”
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And it is. The first world wants the utter destruction of the “inferiors”. Other countries don't realize it. We do.
You are an idiot for even suggesting the 1st world offer “free trade”.
“The Uruguayan president also tried to reach Cristina on the line but was left waiting.”
Apr 15th, 2013 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He clearly made the mistake of not saying to Miss Meglomaniac:
PM: “Pssst will you forgive me if I order all Uruguay's forces to attack the Brits in the Falklands.”
CFK: “Ahhh we always were lovers Pepe, I never doubted you for a second. Er will your forces lead to gives ours less chance of getting their asses whipped?”
PM: Of course. Will you now dredge the Plata?“
CFK: ”Perhaps after you have led the invasion force, perhaps.”
Sound of extreme suction.
Funny though - the 2 Assembly Members from the Islands who were travelling around South America at the time were both repeatedly asked by political leaders(including Govt ones) in the countries they visited - ” Did you hear what Mujia said about her? - Well that is what we all really think as well!
Apr 15th, 2013 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@31
Apr 15th, 2013 - 10:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You talk as if South Americans, Falkland Islanders, Brits, or Europeans are of any worth paying attention to argentines. You are irrelevant to us and our economy, culture, or anything else. None of you are that important as nations or societies. If tomorrow you are gone, we go one pretty much unaware.
#17 “@15 meaning? Sory, not quite getting you”
Apr 15th, 2013 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Meaning the right are the ones having to adapt, like in the British postwar consensus (aka Keith Joseph's “socialist ratchet”); Churchill was a great leader to begin this process as conservative opposition leader after 1945 - I wonder if Capriles will be so mature...
#22 Capriles keeps saying - pretending, really - that he's “Lula rather than Chavez”, but Lula keeps campaigning first for Chvez then Maduro =) Plus the leaks of secret mass privatisation plans dent the “leftist” gloss!
#31 We only have you, or at most them, to trust that that happened; but if it did, who cares that lesser government leaders don't like her - they might be jealous of her awsomeness =)
33
Apr 15th, 2013 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you have to explain that, it's probably not worth the effort...
@32 Pope Sussie
Apr 15th, 2013 - 11:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“You talk as if South Americans, Falkland Islanders, Brits, or Europeans are of any worth paying attention to argentines. You are irrelevant to us and our economy, culture, or anything else. None of you are that important as nations or societies. If tomorrow you are gone, we go one pretty much unaware.”
Is that why Nestor, CFK, Timerman et al, have been petitioning the UN for resolutions against the ”Falkland Islanders (thank you), Brits, and Europeans“ for years and bring it up in every press release or media event, as well as staging events in SA, Falklands, Britain, USA, Europe etc. etc.???
Is that why your rhetoric constantly rails against ”imperialistic and Colonislist European powers and the USA???
Is that why you wrote your Revisionist history for school children, to blame everyone else for your problems and to inflate your egos???
Oops, how do you know? You're a product of that system!
BTW, why are you and the other Trolls on an English language only forum, taking exception to anything in print??
If you 'care', you'll answer!
:-D. Wi-FI back on at Havanna?
#34 I know, and Welsh Wizard likes to come across as the intelligent and thoughtful voice of the anti-Cristinistas, so he's well been caught out here =)
Apr 15th, 2013 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@32 Um, living in Mendoza you must be aware of just how many foreigners own the wine industry there. They are worth paying attention to because they give the local people there jobs.
Apr 15th, 2013 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#37 Yes because as every good neoliberal knows, the climactic conditions, raw materials and human labour for producing the wine were all brought to the area entirely by the foreign owners! I'm not an Argentine nationalist myself, in fact I'm neither Argentine or nationalist, but I can't resist making the obvious points in contradiction to your smug worldview...
Apr 16th, 2013 - 12:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Oh you trolls hiding in Denmark or Mendoza, please go and furgle each other. You might get rid of some of your venom that way
Apr 16th, 2013 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0@37
Apr 16th, 2013 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0If foreigners actually invest in something tangible and that you can see, like a nice winery, then I have no problem with them as long as they keep away from me.
@40 LOL! They do invest and give jobs to the Argentines. I can't imagine they would want to rub shoulders with you so all is good.
Apr 16th, 2013 - 01:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0@35
Apr 16th, 2013 - 02:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Wi-fi at Havanna? Why do you think everyone else bums internet in hot-spots just because your can't afford bubble-wi.
@40
Yeah, just like many European mainland companies provide jobs to the British and still you want to withdraw from the EU acting as if the UK was doing them a favor by staying. lol
I can tell you foreign women are always quite interested in meeting me. But most just are well below the average argentine girl in looks. Too bad argie girls have turned into femminazi respect growls.
@42 Can't get a date then? lol
Apr 16th, 2013 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't need women, and I am too busy educating myself. Unlike Troy Tempest and others here who wonder why I am not here all they long, I actually attend classes and tutors. It's not January anymore when I could be here all day putting you all into place.
Apr 16th, 2013 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0My education comes first.
@44 “Pope Sussie”
Apr 16th, 2013 - 03:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0“I don't need women”
So, really - can't get a date, then? LOL
@44
“ Unlike Troy Tempest and others here who wonder why I am not here all they long,”
Don't want you here - notice that we are laughing at you instead of encouraging you to stay??
BTW, you did not answer my questions @35.
Too difficult for you???
@38BK
“Yes because as every good neoliberal knows, the climactic conditions, raw materials and human labour for producing the wine were all brought to the area entirely by the foreign owners! I'm not an Argentine nationalist myself, in fact I'm neither Argentine or nationalist, but I can't resist making the obvious points in contradiction to your smug worldview...”
BK
“Smug world view”? ?
You are overly touchy about this. Nobody is saying that ALL vineyards are owned by foreigners, but obviously a significant amount. What is the harm in admitting that. Elaine's legitimate point is, “foreigners invest in Argentina which creates jobs”. NOT ALL jobs.
Surely, you are not going to jump on the Toby bandwagon of “we want no contact with foreigners, leave us alone, we can do everything 100% ourselves, we don't need your money or products”??
With your views on 'distribution of wealth', do you support the Communist ideology?
Actually, what do you stand for, besides CFK and populism?
Viva Peron and George Galloway!!!!
Apr 16th, 2013 - 09:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Viva Kermit and Miss Piggy!
Apr 16th, 2013 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Did I miss the memo on when we should start posting random names that have nothing to do with the article?
Anglotino
Apr 17th, 2013 - 01:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Did I miss the memo on when we should start posting random names that have nothing to do with the article?”
Viva, Elmo Berger and Axel the Grouch!!
The stupid arrogant old hag is sulking .. it's a big one .. aaaaahhhhh it's so nice and quiet. Great photo, but Mujica should be careful not to wear dark, or even mirrored glasses in the presence of the President of Argentina. If she cannot see his eyes that will probably enrage her. Yeah ...go on ... please, please, please wear mirrored glasses!!! I do it to annoy shop assistants.
Apr 17th, 2013 - 05:20 am - Link - Report abuse 049
Apr 17th, 2013 - 05:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0You sure it was the mirrored glasses?
#46 Viva George Galloway and Dennis Skinner (great Parliamentary performances from both last night!)
Apr 17th, 2013 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0#49 “Great photo” Indeed it is, beautiful, I was remiss not to say so =)
#50 Lol
@51 and @50
Apr 17th, 2013 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When I said “Great photo” I was referring to Mujica and his stylish sunglasses not to the old hag when she was younger.
I should of said, of course, “Great photo of Mujica in his stylish sunglasses”!!!!
#52 Mujica's sunglasses are indeed stylish. Cristina rocks the sunglasses quite stylishly herself on occasion, no? =)
Apr 18th, 2013 - 10:57 am - Link - Report abuse 052
Apr 18th, 2013 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0I was talking about the shop assistants...
Oh!
Apr 18th, 2013 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are so cruel with Mujica...
Don't you see that the man lost his beach?
Not a word lately about Condes mission to BA recently. Has he been disappeared?
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